[CarbonatedFalcon]

It's funny people leveling all the class to lv60 with the azmodan trick in 8-12h... This game is already broken. :(

They'll probably fix it. I doubt it's as high on the priority list as some other things, even though they could implement a quick fix at least just by changing some numbers around.

I don't know why anyone would really want to do that though. Ruins the fun from my perspective. Maybe for hardcore. But they'd just be killing the game for themselves in softcore.

[BigJonsson]

It was super easy even for my undergeared WD. Just don't stand on green spots and win.

On normal it took me 3 tries, on NM it took me 4 or 5 =/


He kept green circling me into the corner and I got stuck =/

[Le-mo]

First legendary...and its terrible. woohoo RNG

My first legendary was a lvl 5 belt. I got it when I first started the game in Act 1. My second legendary was a lvl 16 sword. I'm still working on my 3rd in Nightmare mode in Act II. -_-

[Drkirby]

Wow.........end of act 2 was a pain in the ass on nightmare, fuck you act 2 final boss, fuck you

I loved how hard he was. Didn't feel overly cheap, but hit like a truck, thrilling.

[Shining Sunshine]

So who wants to kill inferno Belial for me? hehe

[krameriffic]

Critical mass nerf:

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/com...-critical-mass

I mean, I got to try it tonight myself, and it is certainly quite busted, but I hope whatever this "fix" is doesn't put critical mass into the big garbage bin where the majority of Wizard skills already are.

[LordCanti]

Haha, 10 million would mean the item is worth ~300$ in real money.

I'm not sure gold will cost that much...

So who wants to kill inferno Belial for me? hehe

I'd give it a try, but I can't get out of Act 1 lol.

Who wants to kill The Butcher for me? :p

I remember someone said 1K=$.03 in real money so $300 would be correct.

Based on what though? The RMAH isn't open. Gold could go for anything.

[Le-mo]

I'm not sure gold will cost that much...

I remember someone said 1K=$.03 in real money so $300 would be correct.

[Thrakier]

Hm, I find it annoying how the game shows two handed weapons as always better because they don't figure out that the shield is gone as well.

[maxcer0081]

Wow.........end of act 2 was a pain in the ass on nightmare, fuck you act 2 final boss, fuck you

that wasn't bad at all. I hit a major brick wall in the fields of slaughter(act3) with a champion pack of heralds of pestilence. i must have died 7 times. it didn't help that i pulled them all the way back to my waypoint/spawn.

[ElTopo]

Critical mass nerf: http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/com...-critical-mass I mean, I got to try it tonight myself, and it is certainly quite busted, but I hope whatever this "fix" is doesn't put critical mass into the big garbage bin where the majority of Wizard skills already are.

Good...good...soon our time has come, the time of the WD.

Seriously though, that seems to be the only class where you don't really get anything too negative (see also the complaining of the Babas) or too positive to hear, though I'm not sure if it's because the class is balanced, or because many of those excessive players stuck with other classes.

[Ferrio]

Auction house bargain hunting is my favorite part of the game.

Just scored this



for 50k.

[Gila]

So how is everyone making mass gold on here?

There has to be more strategies than just selling

[red731]

that wasn't bad at all. I hit a major brick wall in the fields of slaughter(act3) with a champion heralds of pestilence pack. i must have died 7 times. it didn't help that i pulled them all the way back to my waypoint/spawn.

Well, that is not good, but not certaintly worse than unique pack of those leapers that are fast, electric and with extra health brought to Tristram.

Everyone who joined was like "wtf"(dead) and the rest of us were like "surprise! :3"

[LordCanti]

Auction house bargain hunting is my favorite part of the game. Just scored this for 50k.

Are there DH's out there looking for resistances? Seems like a futile effort when things pound you over the head in one shot anyway.

Or is the +dex and +str irrelevant next to the other stats?

So how is everyone making mass gold on here? There has to be more strategies than just selling

At 5 stacks of nephalem's valor in Inferno, you'll turn over corpses and kick barrels to find over a thousand gold. It adds up very, very quickly. Other than that, yeah, just buying low and selling high. I buy stuff fairly regularly for 30-40k that sells pretty quickly at 100-200k. Doesn't take many transactions for the gold to pile up. I listen to podcasts (which I'd be doing anyway) and just churn through.

[Ferrio]

Are there DH's out there looking for resistances? Seems like a futile effort when things pound you over the head in one shot anyway. Or is the +dex and +str irrelevant next to the other stats?

I havne't gotton to act 2 yet. But I know for a fact a mortar would of took me out if it wasn't for them. I'm not going crazy with them.. I'm at 40% resist... which seems like a good middle ground.

Not to mention people tend to undervalue resists on the AH a lot more than main stats. So it's easy to get say a 100 DEX resist belt, than a 160 dex non-resist belt for cheap.

[Zeliard]

At 5 stacks of nephalem's valor in Inferno, you'll turn over corpses and kick barrels to find over a thousand gold. It adds up very, very quickly. Other than that, yeah, just buying low and selling high. I buy stuff fairly regularly for 30-40k that sells pretty quickly at 100-200k. Doesn't take many transactions for the gold to pile up. I listen to podcasts (which I'd be doing anyway) and just churn through.

Even on Nightmare with a high Gold Find you'll frequently come across individual stacks of 500 gold.

[LordCanti]

I havne't gotton to act 2 yet. But I know for a fact a mortar would of took me out if it wasn't for them. I'm not going crazy with them.. I'm at 40% resist... which seems like a good middle ground. Not to mention people tend to undervalue resists on the AH a lot more than main stats. So it's easy to get say a 100 DEX resist belt, than a 160 dex non-resist belt for cheap.

Makes sense I guess.

I need out of Act 1 of Inferno in the worst way. I'm so close to just paying someone.

Even on Nightmare with a high Gold Find you'll frequently come across individual stacks of 500 gold.

It's trade off since you won't get loot that will sell for a decent amount on the AH from Nightmare. I see your point though.

[Ferrio]

Makes sense I guess. I need out of Act 1 of Inferno in the worst way. I'm so close to just paying someone.

where you stuck on?

[LordCanti]

where you stuck on?

Act 1's boss. I can't do it. The mechanics are too squishy to solo (his chains come out of nowhere), and any group I've gotten into has fallen apart after multiple boss failures. The floor timer is just too darn short ><

[Neki]

Are there DH's out there looking for resistances? Seems like a futile effort when things pound you over the head in one shot anyway. Or is the +dex and +str irrelevant next to the other stats? At 5 stacks of nephalem's valor in Inferno, you'll turn over corpses and kick barrels to find over a thousand gold. It adds up very, very quickly. Other than that, yeah, just buying low and selling high. I buy stuff fairly regularly for 30-40k that sells pretty quickly at 100-200k. Doesn't take many transactions for the gold to pile up. I listen to podcasts (which I'd be doing anyway) and just churn through.

I'm up to 222 resist, I hope to get 400 so I might not get one shot.

[Ferrio]

Act 1's boss. I can't do it. The mechanics are too squishy to solo, and any group I've gotten into has fallen apart after multiple boss failures. The floor timer is just too darn short ><

I can try helping right now.

Just a few attempts though, it's late.

Ferrio#1708

[aznpxdd]

What's the Azmodan leveling trick? I have no intention of abusing it since I actually find it rewarding the level up my characters legitimately.

[Hazaro]

Current cost of gold to my understanding:
JSP to Gold = $100 a mil
Gold Seller 2 days ago = $60 a mil
Gold Sellers now = $30 a mil?

Will be interesting for sure. I think another 4 days of farming along with steep cuts for 'exiting' the RMAH will be enough to deflate gold even more massively, but at least not too many people are in Inferno right now and most chest exploits are fixed.

I've got an equivalent 11 mil stored so I'd like to make something back if possible.

Act 1's boss. I can't do it. The mechanics are too squishy to solo (his chains come out of nowhere), and any group I've gotten into has fallen apart after multiple boss failures. The floor timer is just too darn short ><

Get 20k DPS or you aren't even trying. Shoot from off screen with your follower and just make sure you have life steal tenrils as a rune and have 33k HP to survive one hit. ezpz

[LCGeek]

What's the Azmodan leveling trick? I have no intention of abusing it since I actually find it rewarding the level up my characters legitimately.

Legit if the game didn't want you speed running blizzard could've easily have prevented people going in to a certain part of act doing it and then simply leaving to rinse and repeat. That's all it is teleport to a checkpoint just before the heart of sin kill him go to act 4 kill first boss.

Butchers main pull is obvious just watch his arm go up wait and then dodge before it comes out. Unless it's lag it's easy as hell abuse.

[Hazaro]

Legit if the game didn't want you speed running blizzard could've easily have prevented people going in to a certain part of act doing it and then simply leaving to rinse and repeat. That's all it is teleport to a checkpoint just before the heart of sin kill him go to act 4 kill first boss. Butchers main pull is obvious just watch his arm go up wait and then dodge before it comes out. Unless it's lag it's easy as hell abuse.

His insta aoe chains deal around 33k with very very little startup. Also he has a lot of health and if you don't kill him fast enough the floor kills you.

Stupid easy if you have gear since his AI is so bad.

[Sophia]

I would just like to say: Fuck Horde, Knock Back, Arcane Enchanted Uniques with an entire group of minions to aid them. Seriously.

And my reward for dying four times and killing them? A Witch doctor wepaon. With Strength. FML.

[Tacitus_]

I remember someone said 1K=$.03 in real money so $300 would be correct.

Yeah, me. And that's the price you'll be selling to the 3rd party sites so 10 mil would probably be more like 500$.

[Ramirez]

Ferrio, are you still using the grenade spec for Inferno? I find its range a little lacking for some fights, but the damage is great...

[Sophia]

I feel as a Barbarian I am less fighting the enemy and more fighting my cooldowns.

[LordCanti]

His insta aoe chains deal around 33k with very very little startup. Also he has a lot of health and if you don't kill him fast enough the floor kills you. Stupid easy if you have gear since his AI is so bad.

Me and Ferrio just did it. It went fairly swimmingly, since Ferrio crits for hundreds of thousands of damage :P

His chains did get me a couple of times though, which made it take more tries than it should have. They come from off screen, and you've got no warning. Really one of the most frustrating attacks (other than Bel's meteors) in the game.

Obviously my 18ish normal damage and 30ish crit isn't enough. Why they balanced Act 1 for Act 4 Inferno gear is beyond me.

[Ferrio]

Ferrio, are you still using the grenade spec for Inferno? I find its range a little lacking for some fights, but the damage is great...

Unfortunately I had to toss it. In order for it to be effective you need lots of attack speed. I was only able to get a good 2h bow. Getting two good 1h bows is *alot* tougher. I can't imagine how much a high dps hand xbow with speed modifiers would cost. Not to mention all lvl 60 attack speed items are pricey. I'd love to be able to run it again.

Cluster bomb just decimates bosses.


Right now I'm running this:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculato...XjV!aYe!ccbZYY

Just got a 160k? crit on Butcher in inferno with Canti.

[Sophia]

Okay, one too many deaths at the hands of Arcane-Enchanted mobs. Fuck it, I'm playing my Wizard.

LEAH SHADDUP I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR GREAT POWER AND HOW YOU CAN'T CONTROL IT. >.<;

[LordCanti]

Unfortunately I had to toss it. In order for it to be effective you need lots of attack speed. I was only able to get a good 2h bow. Getting two good 1h bows is *alot* tougher. I can't imagine how much a high dps hand xbow with speed modifiers would cost. Not to mention lvl 60 attack speed items are pricey. I'd love to be able to run it again. Cluster bomb just decimates bosses. Right now I'm running this: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculato...XjV!aYe!ccbZYY Just got a 160k? crit on Butcher in inferno with Canti.

You don't have Sharpshooter on? You could start every encounter with massive crit damage if you did. I thought that was the basis for your build.

[Ferrio]

You don't have Sharpshooter on? You could start every encounter with massive crit damage if you did. I thought that was the basis for your build.

Sharpshooter is the worst passive.

Here's an example. My attack crit chance is ~20%. So 1 in 5 attacks crit. My attack speed is about 2. So I do 2 attacks a second.

That means I crit every 2.5 seconds. Which means that passive resets every 2.5 seconds, which means it never gets over 6% crit... which is horrible.

Ya... I could start a fight with 100% crit chance... but that doesn't mean squat. I could of critted anyway with the 20% crit.

[Twinduct]

yep, after getting to lvl 26 with my wizard, I have zero intention of going back to my NM Barb. Farewell strongtits, you were fun but fundamentally broken.

[LordCanti]

Sharpshooter is the worst passive. Here's an example. My attack crit chance is ~20%. So 1 in 5 attacks crit. My attack speed is about 2. So I do 2 attacks a second. That means I crit every 2.5 seconds. Which means that passive resets every 2.5 seconds, which means it never gets over 6% crit... which is horrible.

I like launching into attacks at full DPS. With the +crit damage gear you have, you could send lightning through a pack for crazy damage as long as you let it build to 100% first.

Tactical advantage is so necessary though that I may drop SS. I had TA on for most of normal-hell but found that I didn't need it in Act 1. Act 2 has faster enemies, so that may have to change.

[Neki]

Sharpshooter is the worst passive. Here's an example. My attack crit chance is ~20%. So 1 in 5 attacks crit. My attack speed is about 2. So I do 2 attacks a second. That means I crit every 2.5 seconds. Which means that passive resets every 2.5 seconds, which means it never gets over 6% crit... which is horrible. Ya... I could start a fight with 100% crit chance... but that doesn't mean squat. I could of critted anyway with the 20% crit.

Anyone know if the crit chance of a shot is determined when it hits the opponent, or when it leaves the bow? If it's the latter, SS would be godlike. It's already godlike with spike traps + bandolier.

[Sophia]

yep, after getting to lvl 26 with my wizard, I have zero intention of going back to my NM Barb. Farewell strongtits, you were fun but fundamentally broken.

That's what I'm feeling, and I'm only level 10 with my Wizard. Barbarians are just too broke to play right now. And I never wanted to play a kiting, resistance stacking tank anyhow.

[LordCanti]

Anyone know if the crit chance of a shot is determined when it hits the opponent, or when it leaves the bow? If it's the latter, SS would be godlike. It's already godlike with spike traps + bandolier.

When it leaves the bow, I'd say. I let my crit get to 100, and then I start rapidfire going for much more damage than I could do otherwise. The numbers all show up yellow, so I assume it's taking the crit damage and using that for each cast.

If you had a build with +crit damage gear, you could do some pretty major damage before the enemy could even do anything about it. Then again, I'd still have to bust out the caltrops+traps combo for champ mobs, so what's the point?

[Ferrio]

When it leaves the bow, I'd say. I let my crit get to 100, and then I start rapidfire going for much more damage than I could do otherwise. The numbers all show up yellow, so I assume it's taking the crit damage and using that for each cast.

That's a special case with rapidfire. Don't know if it applies to other skills.

If it is when it leaves the bow, then you'd need to build around slow attacks. Like elemental, or (ugh) serpentine chakram.

[Twinduct]

That's what I'm feeling, and I'm only level 10 with my Wizard. Barbarians are just too broke to play right now. And I never wanted to play a kiting, resistance stacking tank anyhow.

Same. The wizard only really clicked with me once I hit Disintegrate. But yeah I did not think my barb will have to become a meatshield to survive even the smallest encounters.