[weird]

"Furzen"? Really?
German GAF assamble!

[mysticwhip]

bicycles yay. Recently started playing GTA:SA and riding a bike is prolly my favorite form of transportation.

[Chuck Norris]

Didn't we already see three different planes in the trailer?

[SafeinSound]

Are people really bitching about this list?

[I H8 Memes]

Nope! Other way round if they even attempt to do that! First person would be nice when down on the ground to really take in the environments though.

As janky as it is, GTA 4 with the fps mod is amazing. Once you've played the game that way you realize how much more immersive the cities are from the first person perspective.

[UrbanRats]

Didn't we already see three different planes in the trailer?

I counted 4.

As janky as it is, GTA 4 with the fps mod is amazing. Once you've played the game that way you realize how much more immersive the cities are from the first person perspective.

Not gonna happen, R* has said multiple times how they want to concentrate on 3rd person.
When they talked about the crews (that will transfer from MP3 to GTAV and on) they said how they believed that the 3rd person gives you more attachment to your character, or something.

Personally i'm not a fan of first person view, but hey, to each his own.

[Derrick01]

Aw, so they left the emergency brake out of the PC version? That sucks. Even at 20 mph the e-brake, applied properly, allows you to flip a bitch.

It's probably in there but I shouldn't have to use it. If they're going for realism then every non ferrari-type car shouldn't be turning like a tank.

[Topher]

It would be nice to have at the very least a serviceable cockpit view for the vehicles. Kind of surprised they haven't done it yet.


The cab rides in IV had some of the most immersive qualities in a gta game.

[Piggus]

That big data list is the same as the handling file in all GTA games since GTAIII. Modders use it all the time to edit the handling for custom car mods.

Really weird that it would show up in MP3 considering there are no (I assume) parts of the game where you're actually driving.

[Tylahedras]

Planes pack DLC only 15 dollars day one on the disc WOOOOOO!!!!!

[Persona7]

That big data list is the same as the handling file in all GTA games since GTAIII. Modders use it all the time to edit the handling for custom car mods. Really weird that it would show up in MP3 considering there are no (I assume) parts of the game where you're actually driving.

Well, it uses the same engine and the data probably lies in there and they did not want to remove it in case it breaks something.

[UrbanRats]

It's probably in there but I shouldn't have to use it. If they're going for realism then every non ferrari-type car shouldn't be turning like a tank.

1) Yes you should use it, unless you've never played a GTA game before, you always turn with the manual brake in GTA games (hell, in most arcade recing games).
2) They are not going for realism, they simply made an arcade driving physics that is more complex and nuanced than before, this doesn't mean that it wants to be simulative, at all.

[Zwei]

nvm (reading is fundamental)

[zerotol]

They should put in hang gliders. I want to hang glide off that big ass mountain.

And a small submarine too.

[Piggus]

Well, it uses the same engine and the data probably lies in there and they did not want to remove it in case it breaks something.

Could be. Although I don't see why they needed the whole list. The file is only tied to vehicles as far as I know and would not cause problems with other gameplay elements. Maybe they use the GTA handling.dat file to make vehicles in cutscenes and whatnot more realistic and dynamic... Whereas with previous Max Payne games the vehicles were animated by hand. To prove that though you'd have to look at the names of the vehicle model files in MP3. If they match cars on the handling.dat list, then R* is probably using the handling file to help animate vehicles.

[Buckethead]

No bike bikes?



Fuck you Rockstar.

EDIT: BMX? That'll do pig. That'll do.

[McNei1y]

How big/versatile will this game be if it has that many train models.

[LuchaShaq]

If the full game turns out to only have 1 plane I probably won't buy it. It will be most of the confirmation that I need that Rockstar still doesn't get it.

Planes/helis have always been by far the worst part of Rockstar games.

If you want open world explosions/sillyness play something like RFG/Saint's Row.

[Derrick01]

Planes/helis have always been by far the worst part of Rockstar games. If you want open world explosions/sillyness play something like RFG/Saint's Row.

You know they've made more GTAs then just 4 right? They perfected the formula before that game.

[-Yeti]

Planes and Trains?

Sold.

[UrbanRats]

I love helis in GTA, planes could use some work though.

[Black_Stride]

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?s...ic=510202&st=0

Holy shit GTA still uses this format for car handling?
I remember this from when i used to mod GTA3......so much nostalgia.
I might actually buy this game....but after getting burned by GTA4 im very cautious.

P.S Anyone else remember the madness of trying to find the Borgnine.....i saw its name in the handling file and it seemed like an awesome vehicle but could never find it......when i finally found it, i was over the moon.
I miss those days when games actually surprised me with bonuses.

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

No Stinger, no buy. We haven't seen it since Vice City. :(

[Sephiroth503]

The Rhino is in. YEEEESSSSS GTA4 missed it badly.

[blahblah...blah]

Guys, I hear there's only one plane? Can someone confirm?

[UrbanRats]

Guys, I hear there's only one plane? Can someone confirm?

Nah, it's bullshit.
There are several planes in the list and there are at least 4 planes shown in the trailer alone.

[blahblah...blah]

Nah, it's bullshit. There are several planes in the list and there are at least 4 planes shown in the trailer alone.

So there's only one plane? What were Rockstar thinking?!

[UrbanRats]

So there's only one plane? What were Rockstar thinking?!

There's one plane for all the copies of the game; first to buy, first to fly.

[Lakitu]

Pre-order the game from Gamestop to get the Harrier jet DLC.

[Hoo-doo]

Pre-order the game from Gamestop to get the Harrier jet DLC.

Stop talking. Rockstar might hear you.

[thelurkinghorror]

i want to ride those vehicles 40 hours each...

[Dacvak]

Give me more planes and a jetpack and I'll be good.

[7he Talon]

There was a jet at one minute on the announcement trailer that's not listed. Also, I was hoping for the return of BMXs.

[SarcasticD]

Itching to hear more about GTAV.

I also hope they keep the driving mechanics the same.

[UrbanRats]

There was a jet at one minute on the announcement trailer that's not listed. Also, I was hoping for the return of BMXs.

BMX and Mountain bikes are mentioned in the list, look at the bottom of the images (the transcribed list in the OP is not complete).

[UFRA]

So there's only one plane? What were Rockstar thinking?!

Yup, and this is the final list. Everything in the trailer was false.

[TheVampire]

The Rhino is in. YEEEESSSSS GTA4 missed it badly.

Hopefully that means the army is in at 6 stars.

[Feature]

fucking awesome list. The trailer shows 2 planes so there will probably be atleast 2 and more. Shitload of choppers = awesome fuck ye! This will be a game for the ages, I just know it! Love me some GTA!!!! Where the fk is a new trailer??? Anything known for E3 about GTA 5??? :(: (: (:(

[UrbanRats]

fucking awesome list. The trailer shows 2 planes so there will probably be atleast 2 and more. Shitload of choppers = awesome fuck ye! This will be a game for the ages, I just know it! Love me some GTA!!!! Where the fk is a new trailer??? Anything known for E3 about GTA 5??? :(: (: (:(

Again, the trailer shows 4 planes:

Skimmer.
Crop Duster.
Hydra.
Shamal.

[Feature]

Very awesome, didn't catch that water airplane. The cropduster is pretty awesome, I'll have fun flying over a street intoxicating random strangers!! :D

[Net_Wrecker]

Forget planes, the snowplough, skimobile, and snow related findings are what interest me. If this is real, just what is Rockstar up to with the mountainous regions?

[Fjordson]

Shit, didn't even notice that fourth plane, nice catch.

I really hope we get some more info on this soon. I remember back in January or February in a Q&A thing on their newswire they said they would "have much more to say in a few months time". Could be soon!

[UrbanRats]

I didn't know there was snow around LA.. hell, i didn't even know there was a subway system in LA.

[GlamFM]

GTA V is probably my most anticipated game of all time.

Marketing should start soon now that Max Payne is out right?

[Robot Pants]

I didn't know there was snow around LA.. hell, i didn't even know there was a subway system in LA.

I can just feel it. This game is gonna be so good.

[UrbanRats]

GTA V is probably my most anticipated game of all time. Marketing should start soon now that Max Payne is out right?

They might be getting the June Game Informer cover, who knows.

Also, this year R* will be at E3 under Take Two, with some announcements, it seems.

[Fjordson]

GTA V is probably my most anticipated game of all time. Marketing should start soon now that Max Payne is out right?

Not major marketing, but hopefully some new info. Like I mentioned earlier, they said back in February that they'd have much more to say "in a few months time".

[Para bailar La Bomba]

Forget planes, the snowplough, skimobile, and snow related findings are what interest me. If this is real, just what is Rockstar up to with the mountainous regions?

GTA:SA, RDR and JC2 all prove sandboxing in mountainous regions is a ton of fun.

Are people really bitching about this list?

I detect two independent types of bitching in this thread:
(1) Bitching about an assumption somebody made and somebody else repeated while ignoring copious amounts of evidence to the contrary.
(2) Bitching about a game mechanic from a previous game.

[blahblah...blah]

Wait, let me get this straight, there's only ONE plane in the whole game? Failstar.

[Para bailar La Bomba]

Wait, let me get this straight, there's only ONE plane in the whole game? Failstar.

Sigh. Read the thread or somebody will revoke your Mensa membership.