[Avixph]

GAF post what you consider being the worst things in comics(story,artwork, etc.), and explain why and give examples.You are free to talk about any series by any publisher. Please limit the Rob Liefeld posts.

[Horse Detective]

Ultimate Spiderman's take on Carnage. I try to forget my middle school years.

[Slayven]

Frank Quietly

[Parallax]

shitty writing. bad art is bad, but for the most part tolerable( i dont like captain tumors work, but if the story is good enough, i can compensate) but a shitty writer will make me quit a book halfway through.( millar is perfect for this.)

[Angry Grimace]

Nobody is dead, multiple writers per character due to unending franchises owned by the comics label.

[G-Fex]

angst
drama

stupid ass line tracings

[Htown]

One More Day.

Jeph Loeb.

[Dutch Mafia]

Hollywood

[Dan]

Bad lettering when they just put seemingly random words in bold that don't really follow regular kinds of emphasis.

[Lionel Mandrake]

Post 9/11 Frank Miller

Mark Millar

[Slayven]

shitty writing. bad art is bad, but for the most part tolerable( i dont like captain tumors work, but if the story is good enough, i can compensate) but a shitty writer will make me quit a book halfway through.( millar is perfect for this.)

Then you will like my Austen and Quietly book.

[kswiston]

My pet peeve is people who try to write scientist characters when they clearly understand little about the science they are inserting into their writing. Dan Slott is bad for this. Yes, it's comics, but you still have to use terminology and concepts properly if you are going to use them.

[jon bones]

big cross over events

[HK-47]

The caustic tropes caused by continuous continuity.

The fact that the superhero genre overshadows everything in American comics.

The never ending deluge of shitty, fractured crossover events.

[Dan]

Robert Kirkman's lack of faith in his readers and artists on The Walking Dead. He clearly believes that readers can't read between the lines or that the artist can convey anything in visuals. Instead he has every damn character monologue about their feelings all the time and over explain every damn thing that's happening.

[Parallax]

Then you will like my Austen and Quietly book.

........ ill be apprehensive. captain tumors work makes my skin itch. it better be one hell of a story though.

[Avixph]

If you can please post pic illustrating what you peeps are referring to.

[Qasiel]

Irregular bolding and no explanation as to why they do it, past "Oh, it's just a tradition".

If someone can actually explain it to me, I'd be most grateful.

[KidGalactus]

Hard to say. Lots of stuff is wrong with the mainstream industry. Independent comics are probably healthier than they ever have been.

[the chris]

One More Day. Jeph Loeb.

It's like you're reading my mind.

That and awful traced art. Salvador Larocca and Greg Land immediately come to mind when I think of it.

[Zekes!]

There hasn't been an issue #10 of Fell yet

[SickBoy]

I was really interested in what they did in the first handful of issues of the second run of Ghost Rider, where they created seemingly throwaway "super"villains and just had him mow through them. Bold!

Then they started coming back. Old. :(

It's one thing to not kill off the Joker... it's another to not kill off anyone.

Robert Kirkman's lack of faith in his readers and artists on The Walking Dead. He clearly believes that readers can't read between the lines or that the artist can convey anything in visuals. Instead he has every damn character monologue about their feelings all the time and over explain every damn thing that's happening.

Yeah, I really like the book, but this is annoying... you could probably cut the dialogue in half and it wouldn't have a big impact (maybe a positive impact).

[outunderthestars]

the fans.

[CorvoSol]

One More Day. Jeph Loeb.

Also that one where Gwen Stacy had babies with Norman Osborne.

[Avixph]

Also that one where Gwen Stacy had babies with Norman Osborne.

When did that happen?

[Divvy]

It's like you're reading my mind. That and awful traced art. Salvador Larocca and Greg Land immediately come to mind when I think of it.

I don't get this. This isn't some amazing concept. He couldn't have conjured up a drawing of a frightened child on his own?

[shadyspace]

When did that happen?

Sins Past. JMS wanted them to be Peter's kids but editorial wouldn't let him.

[anaron]

retcons, objectifying women, the fans

[Jason Raize '75 - '04]

I don't get this. This isn't some amazing concept. He couldn't have conjured up a drawing of a frightened child on his own?

The point is he line traced the photo. He didn't conjure up anything

[Sentry]

Ultimate Spiderman's take on Carnage. I try to forget my middle school years.

I didn't mind it. At all.

[Vyer]

I don't get this. This isn't some amazing concept. He couldn't have conjured up a drawing of a frightened child on his own?

?

The third pic is an overlay.m he literally looked up a Google image and traced it almost line for line apparently.

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

everything since 1970

[Divvy]

The point is he line traced the photo. He didn't conjure up anything

? The third pic is an overlay.m he literally looked up a Google image and traced it almost line for line apparently.

That's what I meant. He couldn't pull an image of a frightened child out of his imagination that he had to resort to tracing a photo?

[The Take Out Bandit]

The absolute worst thing about comics is how the two major publishers in the industry treat the creators behind the work.

Imagine an Apple with Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak not profiting from it. Imagine a Microsoft without Bill Gates profiting from it. That's the Big Two of the American comic book industry.

“Don’t worry if I write rhymes. I write checks.”

Who Needs The Avengers?
“Avengers—Dissemble!”
What Long-Term Service Did Stan Lee Provide That Jack Kirby Didn’t (or Couldn’t)?

The creator’s position viewed through the lens of Alan Moore

It's the absolute worst fucking thing about the American comic book industry.

The comical greed also spills over into digital distribution. For years all publishers have been defending price hikes to funnybooks with rising print costs, better quality paper, better production values. Year in, year out this is the excuse given to readers.

Sales peter off and they start crying that they can't compete with video games and movies.

Now they have the opportunity to reach more readers with sensible pricing and what do they do?

Stick it to the customer once more.

Why do your digital funnies cost $2.99 and $3.99 you fucks?

You're not printing anything.

And you're still competing with video games and video rentals, only now you're competing against video games that are free or 99¢.

Stop treating your talent like shit and stop fleecing your fucking customers.

Do your part to help prevent another comic creator from dying uninsured and badly:

http://heroinitiative.org/

[AlStrong]

Came in here expecting VGCats for some reason. :p

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Bendis
Jeph Loeb
3.99 and double shipping
People that thing DC only has Batman

[BuddyJoeHooker]

Retcons, we don't need a life changing events, just have the characters evolve.

[TigerUppercut]

Bendis bringing back Thanos and the Guardians of the Galaxy presumably so he can neatly Bendisize them and ruin every unique and cool thing about those characters.

[Dai101]

Bendis Jeph Loeb 3.99 and double shipping People that thing DC only has Batman

[ReiGun]

The absolute worst thing about comics is how the two major publishers in the industry treat the creators behind the work. Imagine an Apple with Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak not profiting from it. Imagine a Microsoft without Bill Gates profiting from it. That's the Big Two of the American comic book industry. “Don’t worry if I write rhymes. I write checks.” Who Needs The Avengers? “Avengers—Dissemble!” What Long-Term Service Did Stan Lee Provide That Jack Kirby Didn’t (or Couldn’t)? The creator’s position viewed through the lens of Alan Moore It's the absolute worst fucking thing about the American comic book industry. The comical greed also spills over into digital distribution. For years all publishers have been defending price hikes to funnybooks with rising print costs, better quality paper, better production values. Year in, year out this is the excuse given to readers. Sales peter off and they start crying that they can't compete with video games and movies. Now they have the opportunity to reach more readers with sensible pricing and what do they do? Stick it to the customer once more. Why do your digital funnies cost $2.99 and $3.99 you fucks? You're not printing anything. And you're still competing with video games and video rentals, only now you're competing against video games that are free or 99¢. Stop treating your talent like shit and stop fleecing your fucking customers. Do your part to help prevent another comic creator from dying uninsured and badly: http://heroinitiative.org/

3.99 and double shipping People that thing DC only has Batman

The fact that the superhero genre overshadows everything in American comics. The never ending deluge of shitty, fractured crossover events.

angst drama stupid ass line tracings

I agree with these fine gents.

[MisterHero]

The absolute worst thing about comics is how the two major publishers in the industry treat the creators behind the work. Imagine an Apple with Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak not profiting from it. Imagine a Microsoft without Bill Gates profiting from it. That's the Big Two of the American comic book industry. “Don’t worry if I write rhymes. I write checks.” Who Needs The Avengers? “Avengers—Dissemble!” What Long-Term Service Did Stan Lee Provide That Jack Kirby Didn’t (or Couldn’t)? The creator’s position viewed through the lens of Alan Moore It's the absolute worst fucking thing about the American comic book industry. The comical greed also spills over into digital distribution. For years all publishers have been defending price hikes to funnybooks with rising print costs, better quality paper, better production values. Year in, year out this is the excuse given to readers. Sales peter off and they start crying that they can't compete with video games and movies. Now they have the opportunity to reach more readers with sensible pricing and what do they do? Stick it to the customer once more. Why do your digital funnies cost $2.99 and $3.99 you fucks? You're not printing anything. And you're still competing with video games and video rentals, only now you're competing against video games that are free or 99¢. Stop treating your talent like shit and stop fleecing your fucking customers. Do your part to help prevent another comic creator from dying uninsured and badly: http://heroinitiative.org/

This this this.

Just think of the greatest creations of the industry and their creators and they were not treated well AT ALL. This same treatment applies to everyone not as notable as well.

This is worse considering they are both part of some of the biggest entertainment companies today. The have the money and the comics are huge IP assets for future income, but the comics and non-editors who work on them aren't compensated nearly enough (depriving creators of royalties, for one).

People give Rob Liefeld crap today and some of it is deserved, but he and some other creators did the smartest thing and stood up for their creator rights.

[SmithnCo]

Greg Land's shitty looking tracing is worse than Liefeld IMO.

[mysticwhip]

ugly art.

[Bombadil]

I hate when the cover artwork is in brilliant color but the entire work is in black and white. Examples include Akira and The Walking Dead.

I think Akira had a special all-color-artwork edition, but it's rare.

[HK-47]

I hate when the cover artwork is in brilliant color but the entire work is in black and white. Examples include Akira and The Walking Dead. I think Akira had a special all-color-artwork edition, but it's rare.

Most manga has color covers and b&w interiors. Its much cheaper.

[Bombadil]

Most manga has color covers and b&w interiors. Its much cheaper.

I didn't know that. Still hate it.

[Gentleman Jack]

Single issue prices in print
All prices in digital
The whole Marvelman/Miracleman clusterfuck

Apart from that I still love comics to death.

Most manga has color covers and b&w interiors. Its much cheaper.

Some manga originally had colored pages (usually 2-3 pages at the start of certain chapters) but they've not been reprinted that way in any legal way. Makes me quite sad.

[SUPREME1]

The absolute worst thing about comics is how the two major publishers in the industry treat the creators behind the work. “Avengers—Dissemble!” What Long-Term Service Did Stan Lee Provide That Jack Kirby Didn’t (or Couldn’t)?

Just read that entire page. Thanks for posting.

Wow.

[wenis]

The price. Setting your price at $3.99 is bullshit. Boosting your price randomly one week to $4.99 is fucking bullshit (for a measly 2 extra stories I read months ago (possibly even a year ago), fuck you Uncanny X-Force).

$2.99 for every issue unless it's some fangled double issue with new content (that actually lends itself to the story at hand or is written by a goddamn writer that knows what they're doing), not shit you pulled out of an old Deadpool annual.

My blood pressure is climbing. I need to go chill out.

[Sentry]

Switching artists, especially after a long time.

It was absolutely crushing when I was reading Ultimate Spider-Man back in the day, to lose the iconic Bagley art. Even worse is going back and forth every issue or two between artists.