RurouniZel
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(05-16-2012, 04:17 PM)

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((((;゚Д゚))))))) @ Vita! Price cut needed! $150, do it!
Doogdogg
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I guess they're out of monies this past week.
Erethian
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#53

Originally Posted by Lord_Byron28: View Post
Isn't this close to the lowest it has sold all year? It had about a 50% drop.
May tends to be the slowest month of the year for Japanese game sales.
massoluk
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Originally Posted by allan-bh: View Post
Worst week for Wii since launch.
And Vita for that matter.
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Well... at least FE: A's doin' alright.
Alrus
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Originally Posted by jett: View Post
so sony's just gonna let vita die a slow and horrible death
Soul Sacrifice and its all-age artstyle will save it!
BKK
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Originally Posted by Nirolak: View Post
Starhawk sold 4 times more in its opening week in Japan than in the UK.
I wouldn't be surprised if it sold more in Japan than the whole of Europe (57 in Germany, and only made minor places in PS3 only Nordic charts).
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Damn, everything is so low. I hope WiiU and Orbis will kickstart Japan a bit... I remember seeing old NPD charts from the mid 90's, the market was much more dynamic and so many more sales all around. Hope it gets better soon.
frankie_baby
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#59

is it possible this weeks overall terrible numbers are just a post golden week lul and things may go up at least a little next week?
Nibel
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Dat Vita drop.

Damn. Damn.
grimshawish
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Originally Posted by Erethian: View Post
I know Vita is going to get a lot of attention (Groundhog day indeed) but hardware sales across the board, save for 3DS, are pretty atrocious. Even for such a slow time of the year.
3DS halfed. So yeah its not a great bunch of sales. Still Vita FELL in Golden Week. Its a different trend to everyone else.

Originally Posted by Peff: View Post
Fire Emblem's LTD counts the first week bundles, right?

EDIT: Or not? Hm.
No. Nor did 3DS sales include them. Which is a bit irritating frankly for stats but am sure we can just add 30,000 and stick a footnote on explaining for the software sales.


Resident Evil can hurry up and drop the fuck out of that chart btw.
Go Kid! Woot! Also not 'bad' for FE - will it join the 3DS Monster Mash??
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Well, at least it's a good PSP player :P

:(
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Originally Posted by EvilDick34: View Post
Vita basically cannot get any worse, so there is no room for it to go lower
Don't overestimate the Vita!
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Time for a Wii price cut, me thinks.
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Clicked on the thread thinking 6,000. Was real close.
MeBecomingI
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Those hardware sales for everything are disgusting...
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I don't want to declare Vita dead until after E3, but its definitely on life support right now.
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Holy shit. What the hell happened? Is this normal?


Originally Posted by Jaded Alyx: View Post
Hm?
Lowest week since the price drop.
frankie_baby
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Originally Posted by Tagg9: View Post
Time for a Wii price cut, me thinks.
theres gotta be one before dq10 surely
Alrus
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Originally Posted by frankie_baby: View Post
is it possible this weeks overall terrible numbers are just a post golden week lul and things may go up at least a little next week?
Well for the 3DS, the end of may is going to be big with Mario Tennis and DQM at least.
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Despite the drop, 3DS sold more units than any console during the same week these last 4 years. Not too bad.

Vita sales approaching x360 numbers... what is Sony waiting for changing the price?!?
JonnyBrad
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#72

What are the upcoming (bigish) releases for 3ds and vita?
frankie_baby
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(05-16-2012, 04:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alrus: View Post
Well for the 3DS, the end of may is going to be big with Mario Tennis and DQM at least.
thats gonna be pretty monsterous
lunchwithyuzo
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#74

Everyone off the cliff!
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Meanwhile at Sony...


What the hell are they waiting for? Even at E3, I don't think we'll see too many Japan-centric announcements.
JonnyBrad
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Originally Posted by frankie_baby: View Post
is it possible this weeks overall terrible numbers are just a post golden week lul and things may go up at least a little next week?
AFAIK this is one of the slowest weeks of the year.
mclem
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Originally Posted by MasterShotgun: View Post
I don't want to declare Vita dead until after E3, but its definitely on life support right now.
Vita on life support because life doesn't have Vita support?
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#78

Glad to see Vita kicking the NDS' ass.

Seriously though, it ain't looking healthy at all.
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Crikey, Vita must be struggling to reach 150k WW per month ...
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Originally Posted by marc^o^: View Post
Despite the drop, 3DS sold more units than any console during the same week these last 4 years. Not too bad.

Vita sales approaching x360 numbers... what is Sony waiting for changing the price?!?
A Vita price drop would have to be significant to have any impact, and they don't want to be losing money on every sale in their current position.

It also has to be accompanied by big releases, and there just aren't any. I wouldn't expect it till Soul Sacrifice time if that hits before Christmas. Sony are in grin and bear it mode, for the better or worse.
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On the upside, Vita should be higher next week. It can't possibly sell less than this... can it?

Part of me thinks Sony killed short-term Vita sales when they announced the white color. Now people might just wait until that comes out.
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#82

I went to Garaph and put in the following query:
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SELECT SUM(SalesWeekly) AS s,Week FROM SoftwareWeekly WHERE Rank>0 AND Rank<=10 AND SalesWeekly>0 AND Week>='2004-12-01' GROUP BY Week ORDER BY s ASC LIMIT 0,25;
Which means "Show me the worst performing top 10s since December 2004".

The worst week on the list was 2011-05-09 (one year ago):
Code:
1	DS	Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 - Professional	17,995
2	3DS	Steel Diver	16,900
3	PS3	Suzumiya Haruhi no Tsuisou	16,786
4	PSP	Suzumiya Haruhi no Tsuisou	15,471
5	PSP	Patapon 3	11,967
6	PSP	Pro Baseball Spirits 2011	9,355
7	PSP	Planetarian: Chiisana Hoshi no Yume (Charity Edition)	8,749
8	PSP	Saigo no Yakusoku no Monogatari (Final Promise Story)	6,414
9	PS3	Pro Baseball Spirits 2011	5,595
10	PSP	DokuSui: Doki Doki Suikoden	4,863
Total sum 114,095 units

This week: 127,888 units

The next worst week on the list had 150,448.

Which makes this week, as best as I can tell, the second-worst week since the DS/PSP launched ("this generation").
Lord_Byron28
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#83

Originally Posted by BD1: View Post
Wow, Vita.

Go Fire Emblem!



I get the feeling we are going to see this block for a long time.
I doubt Mario & Sonic will. They were completely dead and just rose back up the charts because of Golden Week. I fully expect it to drop back down shortly.
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Originally Posted by vareon: View Post
Is the drop usual?
After Golden Week? Yes, it is. Though the numbers are really low this time.
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Those 3DS numbers seem to be normal for post-Golden Week.

Everything else is terrible.
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#86

Just to put things in the right perspective, the past "post GW weeks", with the comparison with the GW itself

2007

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Hardware - This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD
1. NDS - 163,824 | 285,192 | 3,052,216 | 17,057,895
2. WII - 52,544 | 101,320 | 1,504,716 | 2,424,359
3. PSP - 34,433 | 35,172 | 873,828 | 5,405,957
4. PS2 - 10,414 | 14,815 | 335,018 | 20,489,877
5. PS3 - 8,839 | 12,974 | 425,895 | 883,453
6. 360 - 2,105 | 3,205 | 95,655 | 360,357
7. GBA - 769 | 653 | 36,076 | 15,334,155
8. NGC - 315 | 394 | 7,078 | 4,176,546
2008

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Hardware - This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD
1. PSP - 70,536 | 89,884 | 1,754,623 | 9,356,217
2. WII - 41,572 | 67,308 | 1,419,792 | 6,035,952
3. NDS - 34,905 | 51,228 | 1,378,157 | 22,551,208
4. PS3 - 7,701 | 8,054 | 408,602 | 2,050,278
5. PS2 - 7,022 | 7,464 | 221,294 | 21,148,331
6. 360 - 1,474 | 1,298 | 56,501 | 563,842
2009

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|System | This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD |
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| NDS | 39,040 | 63,203 | 1,365,355 | 26,484,990 |
| PSP | 28,683 | 43,009 | 991,371 | 12,349,474 |
| WII | 15,116 | 24,397 | 511,331 | 7,990,308 |
| PS3 | 11,605 | 18,483 | 524,727 | 3,147,195 |
| PS2 | 4,020 | 5,137 | 109,322 | 21,508,851 |
| 360 | 3,233 | 5,068 | 193,757 | 1,023,194 |
------------------------------------------------------------------
| DSi | 34,152 | 55,382 | 1,108,255 | 2,339,614 |
| DSL | 4,888 | 7,821 | 257,100 | 17,559,905 |
------------------------------------------------------------------
2010

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|System | This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD |
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| NDS | 28.564 | 46.498 | 905.526 | 30.184.606 |
| PSP | 25.346 | 36.697 | 933.496 | 14.676.584 |
| PS3 | 20.463 | 26.185 | 622.806 | 5.124.173 |
| WII | 17.570 | 31.399 | 680.474 | 10.285.673 |
| 360 | 4.370 | 4.278 | 64.551 | 1.274.223 |
| PS2 | 1.293 | 1.491 | 35.435 | 21.645.612 |
------------------------------------------------------------------
| DSiLL | 15.879 | 26.733 | 471.346 | 978.253 |
| DSi | 9.990 | 15.739 | 343.521 | 4.682.467 |
| DSL | 2.695 | 4.026 | 90.659 | 17.938.415 |
------------------------------------------------------------------
| PSP | 24.475 | 35.233 | 902.268 | 14.569.601 |
| PSPgo | 871 | 1.464 | 31.228 | 106.983 |
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2011

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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| PSP | 34.826 | 55.140 | 25.346 | 919.165 | 933.497 | 17.569.377 |
| 3DS | 18.324 | 29.149 | 0 | 996.019 | 0 | 996.019 |
| PS3 | 13.789 | 20.883 | 20.463 | 504.979 | 622.806 | 6.592.469 |
| NDS | 10.858 | 19.516 | 28.564 | 423.907 | 905.421 | 32.574.606 |
| WII | 6.336 | 11.520 | 17.570 | 272.725 | 680.474 | 11.552.360 |
| 360 | 2.763 | 3.419 | 4.370 | 47.774 | 64.551 | 1.468.271 |
| PS2 | 1.319 | 1.696 | 1.293 | 32.158 | 35.435 | 21.728.250 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| ALL | 88.215 | 141.323 | 97.606 | 3.196.727 | 3.242.184 | 92.481.352 |
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| DSiLL | 5.358 | 10.519 | 15.879 | 218.930 | 471.346 | 2.166.513 |
| DSi | 5.292 | 8.708 | 9.990 | 186.921 | 343.521 | 5.730.645 |
| DSL | 208 | 289 | 2.695 | 18.056 | 90.554 | 18.091.977 |
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| PSP | 34.655 | 54.882 | 24.475 | 904.158 | 902.268 | 17.393.946 |
| PSPgo | 171 | 258 | 871 | 15.007 | 31.229 | 175.431 |
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The drop had to be expected for everyone.
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Originally Posted by marc^o^: View Post
Despite the drop, 3DS sold more units than any console during the same week these last 4 years. Not too bad.

Vita sales approaching x360 numbers... what is Sony waiting for changing the price?!?
If they were going with a price cut then it wouldn't make sense to do it unless they had big releases coincide with it, like Nintendo did.
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Originally Posted by JonnyBrad: View Post
What are the upcoming (bigish) releases for 3ds and vita?
3DS has Mario Tennis on the 24th and DQM:Terry's Wonderland on the 31st. DQM is a likely million seller and Mario Tennis could do around 500k (maybe less, depends but Mario Sports game usually do pretty well in Japan, even Sports Mix)

Vita has nothing in May I think, June is going to be better with Persona and Gundam (and maybe MGS collection but I seriously doubt it's going to do anything significant). I have no idea what kind of number Gundam will pull but Persona 4 should at least do well over 100k.
Last edited by Alrus; 05-16-2012 at 04:27 PM.
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Originally Posted by djtiesto: View Post
Damn, everything is so low. I hope WiiU and Orbis will kickstart Japan a bit... I remember seeing old NPD charts from the mid 90's, the market was much more dynamic and so many more sales all around. Hope it gets better soon.
The games market isn't going to improve unless the overall economy improves, and I don't see that happening any time soon.
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Prefectly normal sales for week after Golden week.
Last year:
PSP 34.826
3DS 18.324
PS3 13.789
NDS 10.858
Wii 6.336
360 2.763
PS2 1.319
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Originally Posted by Alrus: View Post
Very low number all around, just like last year. I didn't expect the 3DS to drop that badly though...
The drop of 3DS is just temporary, considering its release schedule. That's the difference with the other systems.
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4th worst selling overall hardware week since 2004...
Only worse weeks:
2006-02-06
2011-05-16
2011-08-01

and this week missed it by <10%
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4,600 units for the 10th place piece of software. OUCH. I understand that sales will be down a good bit from Golden Week but that's pretty dire stuff.
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Originally Posted by BurntPork: View Post
Holy shit. What the hell happened? Is this normal?
It's a generally slow time of the year coupled with a shift of sales due to Golden Week (people who would have bought games this week bought them last week instead). Yeah, it's normal.

3DS's drop is pretty significant, though. It's going to be interesting to see on which level it will stabilize during May.
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I'm not sure how anyone expect Sony to "do something" when it comes to the Vita.

You know they haven't left it to die, you know they are working on stuff and have some sort of plan for it. It's not like they can see these numbers and suddenly release FFVII remake as a reactive measure.

(Bad trends all around, gaming, don't die.)
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This week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLwvc5Qywzk
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Originally Posted by marc^o^: View Post
Vita sales approaching x360 numbers... what is Sony waiting for changing the price?!?
Right...okay...so Sony don't actually have any confidence in the Vita:

- Sony drop price
- Sony sell a few more Units - "OH NOES, they make more of a loss!"
- Sony still can't change the Vita to be a success - "OH NOES we've made it worse!"
- Software doesn't move to Vita - "Oh buggering hell..."
- Some hardware sales, but little competition among software developers cuts Sony's margins - "OH NOES..."

Basically this 'magic' price drop will not necessary save the system from a financial perspective. Its a bad product.
Sony don't know what to do. So there...doing nothing - simple as that.

Lesson kids? Plan. Plan. Plan. Nintendo made mistakes in their planning. But Sony made the mistake of not making a plan.
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Originally Posted by grimshawish: View Post
Right...okay...so Sony don't actually have any confidence in the Vita:

- Sony drop price
- Sony sell a few more Units - "OH NOES, they make more of a loss!"
- Sony still can't change the Vita to be a success - "OH NOES we've made it worse!"
- Software doesn't move to Vita - "Oh buggering hell..."
- Some hardware sales, but little competition among software developers cuts Sony's margins - "OH NOES..."

Basically this 'magic' price drop will not necessary save the system from a financial perspective. Its a bad product.
Sony don't know what to do. So there...doing nothing - simple as that.

Lesson kids? Plan. Plan. Plan. Nintendo made mistakes in their planning. But Sony made the mistake of not making a plan.
The product itself is very solid.
frankie_baby
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Originally Posted by marc^o^: View Post
Despite the drop, 3DS sold more units than any console during the same week these last 4 years. Not too bad.

Vita sales approaching x360 numbers... what is Sony waiting for changing the price?!?
maybe because a price drop alone wont make much difference long term
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Originally Posted by Nirolak: View Post
Starhawk sold 4 times more in its opening week in Japan than in the UK.
OK, that is just sad and I am not even intrested in the game.