[G-Fex]

I don't know if Alan Scott is major or Iconic. I always liked him as Green Lantern, I remember I had the huge hardcover DC recollection vol . 1

[Monocle]

Which I agree with.. but since the entire universe has been rebooted.. they.. have that blank check to change what they need.. as they see fit I just hope they do it in good taste, and keep it up

Oh, that's what the article meant by "linewide relaunch"? I guess that does away with my objections.

[Slayven]

Tim Drake is already around right? Everyone always suspected he was a bit confused around boys. Mainly Super Boys.

He is humping Wonder Girl's leg in Teen Titans.

Isnt that from one of the times Wizard magazine was like "hey Alex Ross, what would you do with the Marvel Universe?" things? I remember because thats when I started to reeeeally dislike his ideas.

That is from Earth X, great book.

[Parallax]

Tim Drake is already around right? Everyone always suspected he was a bit confused around boys. Mainly Super Boys.

Hearing this after all this time still bothers me. Mainly because it just seems like super reaching.

Like I've said before, it seems to me that shazam seems like the only real option. He's a character that's had no sexual interaction in the past due to being an avatar placed on a child. Since he is an adult now, they can do with him whatever they want.

[Satch]

Hearing this after all this time still bothers me. Mainly because it just seems like super reaching. Like I've said before, it seems to me that shazam seems like the only real option. He's a character that's had no sexual interaction in the past due to being an avatar placed on a child. Since he is an adult now, they can do with him whatever they want.

wait he's an adult now?

not a teenager??

diana now is your chance!

[Razgriz-Specter]

incest-ish ship is best ship

[TheKaeptain]

wait he's an adult now? not a teenager?? diana now is your chance!

She doesn't like dudes.

[Satch]

She doesn't like dudes.

of course she does

she's making out with her brother on the cover of WW#12 so poo on you

[Spike Spiegel]

I thought they were supposed to be doing that "Captain Marvel isn't one kid but a whole bunch of them merged together like Captain Planet" thing they had going on in Flashpoint? Of course, I know next to nothing about New 52 Shazam so that's probably wrong.

[Khezu]

Alan scott is really strange choice.

[Slayven]

wait he's an adult now? not a teenager?? diana now is your chance!

I thought I was the only one that found that possible match interesting.

[ElNarez]

This guy seems certain that it's Alan Scott: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/05/...ts-alan-scott/

Well that would make this page of Bill Willingham's JSA ironic

[ReiGun]

Alan face is amazing. He's all "That's not funny. Fuck you son."

[akira28]

Iconic is the only clue. Wait..they better not make Icon gay. Nah, DC would never refer to him as iconic, anyway...

So that's the clue, it's someone who's been around a while. Probably been on either the JSA or the JLA, someone who hasn't been mothballed into obscurity.

They haven't brought Ray Palmer back yet have they? Starman was bi at some point if I recall correctly...

[Crewnh]

So its Earth 2 Alan Scott. Oh boy.

[krypt0nian]

Iconic is the only clue. Wait..they better not make Icon gay. Nah, DC would never refer to him as iconic, anyway... So that's the clue, it's someone who's been around a while. Probably been on either the JSA or the JLA, someone who hasn't been mothballed into obscurity. They haven't brought Ray Palmer back yet have they? Starman was bi at some point if I recall correctly...

Ray Palmer has been in Frankenstein from the start.

[Nesotenso]

Ray Palmer has been in Frankenstein from the start.

I thought Ryan Choi was the Atom now.

[Slayven]

Well that would make this page of Bill Willingham's JSA ironic

Weird how they made the last few stories with Obsidian and Jade huge on incest subtext.

[krypt0nian]

I thought Ryan Choi was the Atom now.

I said nothing about the Atom. ;)

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Well that would make this page of Bill Willingham's JSA ironic

I love that last panel where everyone is like "good joke, man!" and not disturbed as fuck at the extremely awkward father-son power struggle.

[krypt0nian]

I love that last panel where everyone is like "good joke, man!" and not disturbed as fuck at the extremely awkward father-son power struggle.

Why would they be disturbed? That was hilarious, especially knowing that they all know how uptight Alan is.

[lazybones18]

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/alan...e-changes.html

[Razgriz-Specter]

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/alan...e-changes.html

ugh im so split over this reboot.


all that talk of diversity yet their asian Batgirl has completely disappeared and we have Hal in the JL(though im a Hal fan)

[Parallax]

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/alan...e-changes.html

Whelp, then I guess that means goodbye potential jade and obsidian then

ugh im so split over this reboot. all that talk of diversity yet their asian Batgirl has completely disappeared and we have Hal in the JL(though im a Hal fan)

Id like to think that the minority thing is part johns, part blind fanboy hate. I mean jason rusch was hated before he could do anything.

[kswiston]

Whelp, then I guess that means goodbye potential jade and obsidian then

Are the JSA/Earth 2 characters young now? If so, Jade and Obsidian don't make sense anyhow.

[Khezu]

Ehh don't like.

Him being gay is kinda weird, and probably the most random character to make gay, but I can deal with that pretty easy.

Him being a young man sucks though. I like my Alan Scott as a grumpy old grampa with two creepy adult children. He was an awesome team dad for JSA.

[Razgriz-Specter]

Whelp, then I guess that means goodbye potential jade and obsidian then Id like to think that the minority thing is part johns, part blind fanboy hate. I mean jason rusch was hated before he could do anything.

I can agree on the fanboy thing. For me when Cassandra was Batgirl I wanted Barbara back then when Steph took over I wanted Cass back.
and similar to how I felt about Huntress.

[akira28]

Oh, well, there's no Obsidian in the DC Universe anymore. So we lost a gay character. That's a shame. As for why not just create a new gay character, I just wanted to do this. I mean, it's one thing if you're creating a new team with new characters, but that isn't what the Justice Society is. It's me rebooting existing characters.

Well...okeedoke. He just "felt like it". Go on. Reboot. For not apparent reason other than you just felt like it, and Didio ididn't say no.

When you come to a deadend with a character. You don't just give him to some new guy and reboot. They ran out of ideas for him after breaking his neck, and blah. It's just annoying. But that's DC lately.

[Parallax]

Are the JSA/Earth 2 characters young now? If so, Jade and Obsidian don't make sense anyhow.

He's younger looking, but if he has the starheart, he can stay young looking forever, so that's of no consequence.

I can agree on the fanboy thing. For me when Cassandra was Batgirl I wanted Barbara back then when Steph took over I wanted Cass back. and similar to how I felt about Huntress.

I like new teen characters. But I fucking hate stephanie brown.

[krypt0nian]

I like new teen characters. But I fucking hate stephanie brown.

Seriously? Even after her amazing Batgirl run? I've never spoken to anyone that hated that series.

[Parallax]

Seriously? Even after her amazing Batgirl run? I've never spoken to anyone that hated that series.

Still can't stand the character.

[akira28]

Yeah I hated Steph up until literally the last page of the Batgirl run. I didn't mind her as the Spoiler, but she was ultra-annoying. I might have liked her as a Robin, but she died before I could find out.

[krypt0nian]

Wow, she was one of the best written characters in comics, female or otherwise, in the last few years. Go figure.

[Parallax]

Wow, she was one of the best written characters in comics, female or otherwise, in the last few years. Go figure.

Not counting her spoiler and robin years?

[akira28]

Wow, she was one of the best written characters in comics, female or otherwise, in the last few years. Go figure.

I dunno about that. She was written, sure. Since most female characters tend to be background or part of an ensemble, that's definitely a difference. But saying she was one of the best written, I just dunno. She went from Tim's plucky girlfriend, to the heir to the Batgirl mantle, with every growing pains story line they could think up, facing her off against jobber type enemies, that whole weird thing with the older detective, and a very cliched 'dealing with your past and accepting who you are' theme. It's like it took them as many years to learn HOW to write Stephanie Brown as it did for her to finally become a believable Batgirl. And just when they finally got there they ended her book for Final Crisis, Darkest Night, and New 52 Reboot.

[Phoenician_Viking]

Batman The Black mirror comic has arrived yesterday. I can't wait to read it.

[krypt0nian]

Not counting her spoiler and robin years?

I pretty much only read her Batgirl series, as well as her excellent appearances in the Cass Batgirl series. All of that was brilliant.

I cannot fathom not loving Brian Q Miller's run. That run made me go back and buy the entire Cass run. So I owe her doubly, because I worship Cass now.

[Jintor]

I liked a lot of Steph just naturally.

[evil solrac v3.0]

I liked Cass as spoiler better.

[Mystic Theurge]

Is Alan Scott really "major, iconic"?

[Fusebox]

Is it because he gets his powers from his ring?

[Father_Brain]

Is Alan Scott really "major, iconic"?

Not in the literal sense of non-comic-reader awareness, no. But he's as "major" and "iconic" as one could have hoped for the character to be, considering that DC realistically wasn't going to introduce a gay version of a character who could be licensed individually (Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan, Barry Allen) or for whom a sexuality change would generate too much fan backlash and/or require too many changes to what little pre-New 52 continuity has been retained (Tim Drake, Superboy, Kyle Rayner).

[Seth C]

Is Alan Scott really "major, iconic"?

Yes.

Assuming you were born in 1940.

[krypt0nian]

Is Alan Scott really "major, iconic"?

Considering who the initial comment was made to (comic buyers at a comic convention), he'll yes Alan Scott is iconic. He's one of a handful of original superheroes from which all others have been modeled after.

But I already see some of the gay blogs complaining that it's not enough. Typical really. Don't celebrate, pick it apart. It's not like DC has been supporting LGBT charas for years and years now.

[Platy]

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/alan...e-changes.html

He said changs of gender and not changes of sex !!!! =D


....i'm fooling myself, right ?

[ericexpo]

can't wait until Fox News shows pictures of Hal Jordan and show pictures of the Ryan Reyonds from the green lantern movie. Or John Stewart from the justice league animated show.
I remember when they introduced Batwoman they had pictures of Batgirl.

[fredrancour]

He said changs of gender and not changes of sex !!!! =D ....i'm fooling myself, right ?

Probably. As far as 90% of people are concerned gender and sex are synonyms. On the other hand, companies love attention whoring, so if they thought they could exploit it, then maybe...

[patrickthehedgehog]

A super hero has to be from another version of Earth to be gay. Try harder next time please.

[krypt0nian]

A super hero has to be from another version of Earth to be gay. Try harder next time please.

Wow....wow...

The main DCU has plenty of gay heroes. Try harder next time please.

[patrickthehedgehog]

Wow....wow... The main DCU has plenty of gay heroes. Try harder next time please.

If that's the case then why is this such a big deal?