[Khrno]

Thanks, Mpl90! Here's the hardware part I usually use. Chris1964's will have the Last YTD numbers, etc in it. :) __________________________________________________________________ |System | This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | 3DS | 45,752 | 46,425 | 1,719,443 | 6,001,587 | | PS3 | 12,026 | 12,996 | 543,761 | 8,180,147 | | PSP | 10,652 | 12,247 | 383,112 | 19,112,474 | | PSV | 6,347 | 6,340 | 263,460 | 703,445 | | WII | 5,956 | 6,073 | 218,146 | 12,381,367 | | PS2 | 1,166 | 1,212 | 23,862 | 21,797,969 | | NDS | 1,108 | 1,206 | 38,575 | 32,847,060 | | 360 | 825 | 1,023 | 29,190 | 1,565,234 | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | DSiLL | 683 | 819 | 22,150 | 2,316,468 | | DSi | 425 | 387 | 16,425 | 5,850,477 | ------------------------------------------------------------------

So Vita was actually the only system that went up this week, besides DSi.

[electroplankton]

3DS is pretty stable.
With Mario Tennis and Dragon Quest incoming, I guess it will be able to increase and reach 55-60k at least.

[slaughterking]

Huh, the NDS should outsell the Vita when Black/White 2 comes out.

[extralite]

You're incorrect in saying that P2 EP is a direct sequel though. It's actually a stand alone game which is the "other side" of IS. You can play either IS or EP without playing the other and you won't really miss out on that much. Timeline-wise they're more like alternate realities than exact sequels.

But Tatsuya remembers the events of the first game and Maya is reminded as well. There are also flashback scenes to the first game. Eternal Punishment is supposed to be the adult version of the story where the events from the youth version threaten to repeat themselves.

I know they published this as a standalone game in the US but you cannot really understand the finer plot points without having played the original one. On the other hand you could play any sequel and somewhat understand the continuation. It's definetely a direct sequel and more related story-wise to IS than P1 and P2 were, although they also share some of the lead cast.

Furthermore, as a consumer, how could you not assume that it's a direct sequel (no matter if it's the case or not)? They have the same number, it doesn't get anymore connected than that.

[Trojita]

[Thoraxes]

I bought the new Oreimo game because I wanted to see the new endings they came up with. It's still in the mail.

[Gospel]

I remember when KH was a thing.

Yea :^/

Well, I guess we should get our reaction faces ready when they ready up the HD collection.

[faridmon]

We went over this in a previous thread -- it's not nearly as creepy as it sounds. The English title is very misleading.

As someone who watched the Anime series and sort of liked it the name of the series in Japanese is as creepy as it is. It may not feature Incets or something as creepy that, but there is eelements of family ''love'' going-on.

[frankie_baby]

Huh, the NDS should outsell the Vita when Black/White 2 comes out.

That'd be hilarious if that happened, wouldn't actually surprise me if some retailers use b2/w2 as an opportunity to shift any ds systems they've got left

[Meier]

I said it was dire last week when #20 was at 4k. Yikes. The top selling title is.. well, it's Japan after all.

[Mpl90]

Thanks, Mpl90! Here's the hardware part I usually use. Chris1964's will have the Last YTD numbers, etc in it. :) __________________________________________________________________ |System | This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | 3DS | 45,752 | 46,425 | 1,719,443 | 6,001,587 | | PS3 | 12,026 | 12,996 | 543,761 | 8,180,147 | | PSP | 10,652 | 12,247 | 383,112 | 19,112,474 | | PSV | 6,347 | 6,340 | 263,460 | 703,445 | | WII | 5,956 | 6,073 | 218,146 | 12,381,367 | | PS2 | 1,166 | 1,212 | 23,862 | 21,797,969 | | NDS | 1,108 | 1,206 | 38,575 | 32,847,060 | | 360 | 825 | 1,023 | 29,190 | 1,565,234 | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | DSiLL | 683 | 819 | 22,150 | 2,316,468 | | DSi | 425 | 387 | 16,425 | 5,850,477 | ------------------------------------------------------------------

You're welcome...and thank you very much for the hardware table.

About 3DS hardware...only 60k in DQ week? Think higher, folks.

[Ultimadrago]

well didn't expect number 1 at all... just noticed kingdom hearts isn't in the top 20....sad

Good.

Home console Kingdom Hearts or keep it to yourselves, SE.

[Koroviev]

Yea :^/ Well, I guess we should get our reaction faces ready when they ready up the HD collection.

Kingdom Hearts 3 announced for PS3, due to be released in winter of 2012. Believe!

[Exterminieren]

Huh, the NDS should outsell the Vita when Black/White 2 comes out.

The real wildcard is 3DS sales that week. If Nintendo's moves pay off, the DS bump will be scarcely noticeable, and 3DS will have a big week.

Oh God, what the fuck.

[ShockingAlberto]

Good. Home console Kingdom Hearts or keep it to yourselves, SE.

Eh. I'd rather they keep pumping out good to great handheld titles than take six to seven years of teasing on a console title (being optimistic on the timeframe).

But they can't expect to poison the well with sub-par spinoffs and bitch when the good games are met with extremely skeptical eyes.

[Koroviev]

Eh. I'd rather they keep pumping out good to great handheld titles than take six to seven years of teasing on a console title (being optimistic on the timeframe). But they can't expect to poison the well with sub-par spinoffs and bitch when the good games are met with extremely skeptical eyes.

KH3 is the unfulfilled promise of my childhood.

[ShockingAlberto]

KH3 is the unfulfilled promise of my childhood.

The series is only ten years old. That is a short-ass childhood.

Every generation of hardware, it's going to be more and more difficult for modern, log-jammed Square-Enix to create a title that is competitive with contemporary products on home consoles. KH3 will happen, obviously. But I genuinely do not see how it can meet expectations of development speed and quality one would hope for.

[Man God]

The series is only ten years old. That is a short-ass childhood. Every generation of hardware, it's going to be more and more difficult for modern, log-jammed Square-Enix to create a title that is competitive with contemporary products on home consoles. KH3 will happen, obviously. But I genuinely do not see how it can meet expectations of development speed and quality one would hope for.

I know someone whose first game was KH1.

She's going to graduate high school next year.

[Koroviev]

The series is only ten years old. That is a short-ass childhood. Every generation of hardware, it's going to be more and more difficult for modern, log-jammed Square-Enix to create a title that is competitive with contemporary products on home consoles. KH3 will happen, obviously. But I genuinely do not see how it can meet expectations of development speed and quality one would hope for.

I'm being facetious. However, I did expect to see KH3 on the PS3 early on. I was naive.

[Thoraxes]

That'd be hilarious if that happened, wouldn't actually surprise me if some retailers use b2/w2 as an opportunity to shift any ds systems they've got left

Did Japan get the DS price drops like NA did this month?

[Boney]

I know someone whose first game was KH1. She's going to graduate high school next year.

Does she have KH posters in her bedroom?

I think I know her too.

[Chet Rippo]

The title sounds so wrong and creepy.

[StayDead]

OreImo <3



I wanted to buy a copy but I never finished anyone but kuroneko's route in the first one and I've still got a bunch of other VN's to play ><

[Regulus Tera]

Why does AnimeGAF only ever show up for the bad games? :(

[b3b0p]

Can't wait to pick up my $19.99 Vita at Toys R Us.

Any day now.

[faridmon]

Why does AnimeGAF only ever show up for the bad games? :(

They are Anime fans.
There that should explain things.

[Koroviev]

Why does AnimeGAF only ever show up for the bad games? :(

Hi AnimeGAF!

No wonder the Anime OT is a little slow this morning.

[Mileena]

This thread....


From sales to 8 year old cartoon girls

[OceanBlue]

Why does AnimeGAF only ever show up for the bad games? :(

It wouldn't be as funny otherwise.

[Koroviev]

This thread.... From sales to 8 year old cartoon girls

They're not so different.

[hatchx]

The series is only ten years old. That is a short-ass childhood. Every generation of hardware, it's going to be more and more difficult for modern, log-jammed Square-Enix to create a title that is competitive with contemporary products on home consoles. KH3 will happen, obviously. But I genuinely do not see how it can meet expectations of development speed and quality one would hope for.

Well if they announce it at this e3, we might see it by 2018 if we're lucky.

[sillymonkey321]

This thing is going to die and people are gonna be stuck with Nintendo's cutting edge technology if they want a portable gaming system. Sad times ahead.

At some point Sony needs to reflect on their first party offerings and understand that for the most part, they don't make games people want to buy systems for in Japan.

[Regulus Tera]

This thread.... From sales to 8 year old cartoon girls

Nah, she's at least five years older than that.

[Mileena]

Nah, she's at least five years older than that.

In Japan numbers sure.

[Sagitario]

Why does AnimeGAF only ever show up for the bad games? :(

Their secret plan is to get provoke the mass banning of ALL GIFs by posting weird/senseless/useless/not funny/unjustified reaction GIFs.

:(

[cosmicblizzard]

Nah, she's at least five years older than that.

I figured he/she meant the pregnant one, but I think she's like 4.

[Regulus Tera]

I figured he/she meant the pregnant one, but I think she's like 4.

What is this, Summer Days?

[tiff]

I figured he/she meant the pregnant one, but I think she's like 4.

16 in Japan years.

[RurouniZel]

I figured he/she meant the pregnant one, but I think she's like 4.

What is this, Summer Days?

No, she's hiding a stuffed animal under there. Still fucking disturbing the way its drawn though. >>

[Fabrik]

This reason was also used with the Wii and PS3, that it would simply be too expensive to make PS3 games. But everyone didnt skip out on the PS3 and flocked to the Wii. In some cases, it might not be that much more expencive to create a PS3 game compared to a Wii game. I dont think that this will change much on the PS4/Xbox 720 compared to the WiiU.

I think the situation is different. I'd say the PS3 market in Japan is "saturated"/isn't going to grow that much anymore. I think we're seeing a PSP -> 3DS transition with the Vita progressively disappearing and we'll see a PS3 -> WiiU transition as well with the PS4 not selling that much in Japan. Just my prediction based on the supposition that Sony keep doing what they're doing and doesn't have THE next japanese killer-app.

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

What has this thread turned into?

[Dalthien]

Through the first 3 weeks in May Vita has sold 23,270 units, baring an unexpected increase next week we are looking at right around 30K for the month in Japan. Probably not even going to sell 200,000 worldwide in May. Likely will be sitting at under 500K sold worldwide through the first two months of the fiscal year, only need 950,000 a month for the next 10 months to hit that 10 million target. Seems like they are going to be lucky to hit half of that target with the way things are going

As baffling as the Vita prediction seems at the moment, the PSP @ 6M has me just as confused. I can't see the PSP doing more than 3-4M this year at most, and even that seems generous on the high side. Retailers are done with the PSP, and even in Japan, PSP will be well below a million for the fiscal year.

It's like they combined a double-shot of craziness into one forecast.

[test_account]

I think that's a stuffed bunny under her shirt.

I see, so that "legstump" to the right is a bunny ear?

I think the situation is different. I'd say the PS3 market in Japan is "saturated"/isn't going to grow that much anymore. I think we're seeing a PSP -> 3DS transition with the Vita progressively disappearing and we'll see a PS3 -> WiiU transition as well with the PS4 not selling that much in Japan. Just my prediction based on the supposition that Sony keep doing what they're doing and doesn't have THE next japanese killer-app.

Fair enough. I think that it is too early to say much about it one way or the other since it is so much that can happen. I remember when the Vita was priced at the exact same price as the 3DS, and people went "daymn!". Then Nintendo dropped the price with 40% and announced Monster Hunter Tri G, and people went "daymn!. I wouldnt be surprised if something similar happen with the next generation consoles :) Not necessarily a big pricedrop, but something that is noticeably unexpected.

Pity that Nintendo wont announce the WiiU price at this E3. I'm really wondering how much it will cost. In Japan, i'm guessing at least 29,980 yen. And i guess that before the WiiU launch, the PS3 will be 20,000 yen (it is 25k yen now).

[lunchwithyuzo]

I think the situation is different. I'd say the PS3 market in Japan is "saturated"/isn't going to grow that much anymore. I think we're seeing a PSP -> 3DS transition with the Vita progressively disappearing and we'll see a PS3 -> WiiU transition as well with the PS4 not selling that much in Japan. Just my prediction based on the supposition that Sony keep doing what they're doing and doesn't have THE next japanese killer-app.

I think a big part of it also has to do with pre-gen expectations too. PS4 being the successor to PS3 is going to find itself in a much different situation in regards to developer support than what PS3 had coming off PS2. You saw this already with Vita following PSP, and how it's made things that much more difficult from the outset.

You also saw the inverse with 3DS benefitting hugely from being positioned as the DS successor, and I think it makes some sense we'll see the same with Wii U coming off Wii, while Wii itself had to struggle following Gamecube.

[tiff]

I see, so that "legstump" to the right is a bunny ear?

I think so, yeah.

[timetokill]

This thing is going to die and people are gonna be stuck with Nintendo's cutting edge technology if they want a portable gaming system. Sad times ahead.

Signed,

All the people that bought Game Gear, Neo Geo Pocket, Wonderswan, Atari Lynx, TurboExpress...

[Novid]

hey guys what...

sees number one game in japan....

oh hell no.

[saichi]

Well if they announce it at this e3, we might see it by 2018 if we're lucky.

will still be released before Versus and TLG if it's out by 2018...

[D_prOdigy]

Hey guys what's going on in-

[test_account]

I think a big part of it also has to do with pre-gen expectations too. PS4 being the successor to PS3 is going to find itself in a much different situation in regards to developer support than what PS3 had coming off PS2. You saw this already with Vita following PSP, and how it's made things that much more difficult from the outset. You also saw the inverse with 3DS benefitting hugely from being positioned as the DS successor, and I think it makes some sense we'll see the same with Wii U coming off Wii, while Wii itself had to struggle following Gamecube.

I dont think that the Wii will have much impact on WiiU to be honest. Wii 3rd party support has not been good during the last 2-3 years. So if the WiiU is coming of that, then that isnt a good sign :\ The PS2 was still very popular when the PS3 was announced. And the Vita is also a good and very recent example that the predecessor's success doesnt necessarily means much, at least to begin with.

I think that the WiiU will compete directly with the PS3 to begin with, before PS4/Xbox 720 comes out. And that is where the support will come from, PS3/WiiU multiplatform. Not only multiplatform of course, but it will be a bigger part of it i think.

I think so, yeah.

Makes sense, it looks a bit like that indeed.