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Sailor Stevenson
(05-27-2012, 08:54 PM)
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The NCAA Men's College BASEBALL Official Thread of June Madness -Back home in Omaha
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Many people get very excited about March Madness, and a bunch of basketball schools suffering huge upsets, work pools, and spending a couple weeks of Thursday/Friday hitting the "BOSS" button CBS's website.
But for a rare breed of us, it's not about March, it's about June. ![]() What is this you say? Welcome to the NCAA Men's Baseball Tournament. A four weekend event (with some midweek games), that determines college baseball's national champion. Though this tournament may seem a bit weird to you if you've never watched it before, so we'll try to explain with this thread. The tournament The NCAA Baseball Tournament is essentially a four-round tournament: Regionals - 64 teams Super Regionals - 16 teams College World Series - 8 teams College World Series Final - 2 teams 64 teams enter, only one leaves. It's double elimination IN EACH ROUND. So you can technically win the tournament with as many as four losses (if you lose once in each round). Each conference has an automatic bid into the tournament. Most conferences reward this to the tournament champion. Some conferences (like the Pac-12) do not have a conference tournament and/or choose to reward their automatic bid to the regular season champion (which sort of makes the conference tournament worthless) Here's a list of this year's conference champions. This of course effects the bubble dramatically when a low seed in a conference tournament (such as Creighton this year, the #8 seed in the MVC) knocks off a champion who would qualify for an at-large bid: ![]() 2012 Conference Automatic bids Dayton - Atlantic 10 Georgia Tech - ACC Champion Stony Brook - AMEast Champion Belmont - Atlantic Sun Champion Purdue - Big Ten Champion Missouri - Big XII Champion St John's - Big East Champion Coastal Carolina - Big South Champion Cal State Fullerton - Big West UNC Wilmington - Colonial Champion UAB - Conference USA Champion Utah Valley - Great West Champion Valpraiso - Horizon Champion Cornell - Ivy League Champion Manhattan - MAAC Champion Kent State - MAC Champion Bethune-Cookman - MEAC Champion Creighton - MVC Champion New Mexico - MWC Champion Sacred Heart - NEC Champion Austin Peay - OVC Champion Arizona - PAC-12 Regular Season Champion Army - Patriot Champion Mississippi St - SEC Championship Samford - SoCon Championship UT Arlington - Southland Champion Oral Roberts - Summit Champion Louisiana-Monroe - Sun Belt Champion Prairie View A&M - SWAC Champion Fresno State- WAC Championship At-Large bids As you can see, roughly 30 of the spots are taken by conference champions, leaving the second half of the field for at-large selections. This is generally selected through RPI, record, conference performance, SoS, etc. Also, if you get in by winning a weak conference, just like the NCAA Basketball tournament, that doesn't assure you a high seed or an easy regional. You may be a four seed, and you will probably get sent to the closest regional possible. This isn't always possible, but geography does have a large impact on seeding. June 1st-4th - REGIONALS - 64 teams The NCAA tournament begins with 16 regionals, at 16 home-school (or nearby in the case of teams with bad home facilities) locations. The 16 host locations are chosen on a criteria of: regular season performance, RPI, conference regular season/tournament championships, fair distribution across region, facility, expected fan support/bid (aka, how much money is paid to host said regional), rewarding teams who played tough schedules etc. It's also worth noting that you DO NOT have to be a #1 seed in your regional to host. The NCAA sometimes sends teams deserving of a Top 16 seed on the road, if their facility doesn't work, their bid wasn't good enough, or they want to promote baseball a region with no other regionals. Note the NCAA announces host sites on Sunday before the regionals. The full field is announced Monday morning at Noon EST on ESPN. Here's this year's 16 host sites: Baton Rouge, La. — LSU (43-16) Chapel Hill, N.C. — North Carolina (44-14) Charlottesville, Va. — Virginia (38-17) College Station, Texas — Texas A&M (42-16) Columbia, S.C. — South Carolina (40-17) Coral Gables, Fla. — Miami (Fla.) (36-21) Eugene, Ore. — Oregon (42-16) Gainesville, Fla. – Florida (42-18) Gary, Ind. — Purdue (44-12) Houston, Texas — Rice (40-17) Los Angeles, Calif. — UCLA (41-14) Palo Alto, Calif. — Stanford (37-16) Raleigh, N.C. — North Carolina State (39-17) Tallahassee, Fla. — Florida State (43-15) Tucson, Ariz. — Arizona (37-17) Waco, Texas — Baylor (44-14) Purdue is hosting in Gary as their brand new ballpark isn't ready for the tournament this year. Coral Gables is a confusing selection as well. THE REST OF THE FIELD Will be announced, including seeding and national seeds, tomorrow at noon EST on ESPN. Seeding Each regional has four teams, and they are seeded 1, 2, 3, 4. The next section will describe the tournament process. There are also eight (8) National Seeds, with specific seedings (1-8). These teams cannot meet each other until the College World Series in Omaha, and their regionals/super regionals are seeded against each other (ie, if the #1 national seed, and the #8 national seed both make it to Omaha, they would play there in the first game). National Seeds have an added bonus of being guaranteed to host a Super Regional at their home park if they win their regional ![]() Regional Tournament Example Schedule - WILL BE UPDATED The #1 seed can elect if it wants to play the early game or the night game on day one of the regional. Most teams will select the early game, though weather may change that in the deep south. Friday - June 1st Game 1: #1 seed vs. #4 Seed Game 2: #2 Seed vs. #3 seed Saturday - June 2nd Game 3: Game 1 loser vs. Game 2 loser Game 4: Game 1 winner vs. Game 2 winner Sunday - June 3rd Game 5: Game 4 loser vs. Game 3 winner Game 6: Game 5 winner vs. Game 4 winner Monday - June 4th Game 7: Game 5 winner vs Game 4 winner (IF NECESSARY) Pretty standard double elimination bracket. The team last team standing without two losses is the Regional Champion and advances to the Super Regional round. June 8th-11th - Super Regionals - 16 teams reamining Super Regionals are Best of 3 series played between two regional winners. If a National Seed wins its regional, it hosts. If the national seed is eliminated during the regional, the Super Regional is awarded based on the bids that come in. Typically this will favor the other team that hosted a regional, but if a Super Regional contains two teams that were not hosts, it can get fun and end with games played in interesting/weak parks. Super Regionals begin with one game played per day, the three game series finished over three days. The first four super regionals begin on Friday, June 8th. The second four begin on Saturday June 9th. (the start dates correspond with which day of the College World Series you would start on) Each team that wins the three-game Super Regional series then advances to the college world series. ![]() June 15th-June 23/24th - COLLEGE WORLD SERIES - 8 Teams remaining The College World Series is hosted annually in Omaha, Nebraska, at TD Ameritrade Park (a brand new downtown ballpark that replaced the aging but classic Rosenblatt Stadium by the Omaha Zoo). The best way to explain this, is imagine if you had two regionals occurring and intertwined at the same location, there are two separate brackets of four teams playing a double elimination tournament each. The winner of those brackets then meet in a Best of three series. Essentially we are repeating the Regional/Super regional process with the final 8 teams ![]() whew.... That's a brief run-down. I'm reserving the post below to move some of this info down as we get the seedings tomorrow and i update the schedule Of course, this year i'll be missing the whole CWS due to an out of the country vacation, but I'm excited to share my love for this time of year with ya'll
Last edited by jstevenson; 05-27-2012 at 10:58 PM.
Reason: updated conference champs
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Sailor Stevenson
(05-27-2012, 08:56 PM)
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COLLEGE WORLD SERIES (JUNE 15TH-26TH/27TH) SCHEDULE
(all times Eastern) Bracket One: Friday June 15th: Game 1 5pm: 4. Stony Brook vs. 1. UCLA (#2 National Seed) - ESPN2 Game 2 9pm: 1. Arizona vs. 1. Florida State (#3 national seed) - ESPN2 Sunday June 17th Elimination Game Game 5 5pm: Loser Game 1 vs Loser Game 2 - ESPN2 Winner's Bracket Game 6 9pm: Winner Game 1 vs Winner Game 2 - ESPN2 Tuesday June 19th: Elimination Game Game 9 8pm: Winner Game 5 vs Loser Game 6 - ESPN Thursday June 21st Bracket Final Game 11 5pm: Winner Game 9 vs Winner Game 6 - ESPN2 Friday June 22nd: If Necessary Bracket Final Game 13 5pm: Winner Game 9 vs Winner Game 6 (if necessary) - ESPN2 ---------winner of above double elimination bracket meets winner of below bracket in Best of 3 College World Series Final Bracket Two: Saturday June 16th: Game 3 5pm: 3. Kent State vs. 2. Arkansas - ESPN Game 4 9pm: 1. South Carolina (#8 National Seed) vs. 1. Florida (#1 National Seed) - ESPN Monday June 18th: Elimination Game 7 5pm: Loser Game 3 vs. Loser Game 4 - ESPN2 Winner's Bracket Game 8 9pm: Winner Game 3 vs Winner Game 4 - ESPN2 Wednesday June 20th: Elimination Game 10 8pm Winner Game 7 vs Loser Game 8 - ESPN Thursday June 21st: Bracket Final Game 12 9pm Winner Game 10 vs Winner Game 8 - ESPN2 Friday June 22nd "If necessary" Bracket Final Game 14 9pm Winner Game 10 vs Winner Game 8 - ESPN ---------------------PREVIOUS ROUNDS BELOW Super Regionals (ALL BEST OF THREE): Saturday-Monday (aka, teams that start on Day 2 of CWS) Gainesville Super Regional - ESPNU 1. NC State (0-2) at 1. Florida (#1 national seed) (2-0) Game 1, Florida 7, NC State 1 Game 2 Florida 9, NC State 8 Florida advances to College World Series ---------------- Florida plays South Carolina at 9pm EST Saturday night at College World Series Columbia Super Regional ESPNU (Game 3 ESPN2) 2. Oklahoma (0-2) at 1. South Carolina (#8 National Seed) (2-0) Game 1 South Carolina 5, Oklahoma 0 Game 2 South Carolina 5, Oklahoma 1 South Carolina advances to College World Series --------------------------------------------------------------------- Eugene Super Regional - ESPNU 3. Kent State (2-1) at 1. Oregon (#5 National Seed) (1-2) Game 1 Kent State 7, Oregon 6 Game 2 Oregon 3, Kent State 2 Game 3 Kent State 3, Oregon 2 Kent State advances to College World Series ---------------- Kent State plays below below super winner at CWS on Saturday at 4pm EST Waco Super Regional - ESPNU (Game 3 on ESPN2) 2. Arkansas (2-1) at 1. Baylor (#4 National Seed) (1-2) Game 1 Baylor 8, Arkansas 1 Game 2 Arkansas 5, Baylor 4 Game 3 Arkansas 1, Baylor 0 Arkansas advances to College World Series ---------Teams above this line cannot meet teams below this line until CWS Final------------- Friday-Sunday (aka, teams that start on Day 1 of CWS) Tallahassee Super Regional - ESPN2HD 1. Stanford (0-2) at 1. Florida State (#3 National Seed) (2-0) Game 1 Florida State 17, Stanford 1 Game 2 Florida State 18, Stanford 7 Florida State advances to College World Series ---------------- Florida State plays Arizona in first game at College World Series Tuscon Super Regional - ESPN2 3. St John's (0-2) at 1. Arizona (2-0) Game 1 Arizona 7, St. John's 6 Game 2 Arizona 7, St. John's 4 Arizona advances to College World Series -------------------------------------------------------- Baton Rouge Super Regional - ESPN2HD 4. Stony Brook (2-1) at 1. LSU (#7 National Seed) (1-2) Game 1 LSU 5, Stony Brook 4 Game 2 Stony Brook 3, LSU 1 Game 3 Stony Brook 7, LSU 2 Stony Brook advances to College World Series ---------------- Stony Brook plays UCLA in game one at CWS Los Angeles Super Regional ESPN2 (Game 1 on ESPN) 2. TCU (0-2) at 1. UCLA (#2 National Seed) (2-0) Game 1 UCLA 6, TCU 2 Game 2 UCLA 4, TCU 1 UCLA ADVANCES TO COLLEGE WORLD SERIES PREVIOUS ROUNDS BELOW REGIONAL ROUND BELOW - Regionals Completed Gainesville, Fla. Regional - ESPN3/WatchESPN Regional Champion 1. Florida (#1 National Seed) (3-0) Eliminated: 2. Georgia Tech (2-2) 3. College of Charleston (1-2) 4. Bethune-Cookman (0-2) Florida will NC State in the Gainesville Super Regional: Raleigh, N.C. Regional Regional Champion: 1. North Carolina State (3-1) Eliminated: 2. Vanderbilt (2-2) 3. NC-Wilmington (1-2) 4. Sacred Heart (0-2) ------------------Winner of above 2 regionals, plays winner of below 2 at College World Series----------------------------------- Charlottesville, Va. Regional Regional Champion: 2. Oklahoma (4-1) Eliminated: 3. Appalachian State (2-2) 1. Virginia (1-2) 4. Army (0-2) Oklahoma will play South Carolina in Columbia Super Regional Columbia, S.C. Regional - ESPNU Regional Champion: 1. South Carolina (#8 National Seed) (3-0) Eliminated: 2. Clemson (2-2) 3. Coastal Carolina (1-2) 4. Manhattan (0-2) ------------------------------------------------------------ Eugene, Ore. Regional Regional Champion: 1. Oregon (#5 National Seed) (3-0) Eliminated: 4. Austin Peay (2-2) 2. Cal State Fullerton (1-2) 3. Indiana State (0-2) Kent State plays @ Oregon in Super Regionals Gary, Ind. Regional - BIG TEN NETWORK / BTN2GO Regional Champion: 3. Kent State (3-0) Eliminated: 2. Kentucky (2-2) 1. Purdue (1-2) 4. Valparaiso (0-2) ------------------Winner of above 2 regionals, plays winner of below 2 at College World Series----------------------------------- Houston, Texas Regional Regional Champion: 2. Arkansas (3-0) Eliminated: 3. Sam Houston State (2-2) 1. Rice (1-2) 4. Prairie View (0-2) Arkansas will play in the Waco Regional vs. Baylor Waco, Texas Regional Regional Champion 1. Baylor (#4 National seed) (4-1) Eliminated: 2. Dallas Baptist (2-2) 4. Oral Roberts (1-2) 3. UT-Arlington (0-2) -----------------------LEFT SIDE OF CWS BRACKET ABOVE----------------------------------------- The teams above this line cannot play teams below this line until the College World Series final. Imagine these as opposite sides of the bracket -----------------------RIGHT SIDE OF CWS BRACKET BELOW------------------------------------------------ Tallahassee, Fla. Regional - ESPN3/WATCHESPN Regional Champion: 1. Florida State (#3 National Seed) (2-0) Eliminated: 3. Samford (2-1) 2. Mississippi State (1-2) 4. UAB (0-2) Florida State will host Stanford in the Tallahassee Super Regional: Palo Alto, Calif Regional -ESPN3/WATCHESPN Regional Champion: 1. Stanford (3-0) Eliminated: 2. Pepperdine (2-2) 4. Fresno State (1-2) 3. Michigan State (0-2) ------------------Winner of above 2 regionals, plays winner of below 2 at College World Series----------------------------------- Tucson, Ariz. - ESPNU Regional Champion: 1. Arizona (3-0) Eliminated: 3. Louisville (2-2) 4. Missouri (1-2) 2. New Mexico State (0-2) Arizona will play St. John's in the Tuscon Super Regional Chapel Hill, N.C. Regional Champion: 3. St John's (3-0) Eliminated: 1. North Carolina (#6 National Seed) (2-2) 2. East Carolina (1-1) 4. Cornell (0-2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Baton Rouge, La. Regional - COX SPORTS NETWORK (WTF?) Regional Champion: 1. LSU (#7 National Seed) (3-0) Eliminated: 2. Oregon State (2-2) 4. UL-Monroe (1-2) 3. Belmont (0-2) LSU will host Stony Brook in the Baton Rouge Super Regional Coral Gables, Fla. Regional Regional Champion: 4. Stony Brook (4-1) Eliminated 2. Central Florida (2-2) 3. Missouri State (1-2) 1. Miami (Fla.) (0-2) ------------------Winner of above 2 regionals, plays winner of below 2 at College World Series----------------------------------- Los Angeles, Calif Regional Regional Champion: 1. UCLA (#2 National Seed)(3-0) Eliminated: 4. Creighton (2-2) 3. New Mexico (1-2) 2. San Diego (0-2) UCLA will host the winner of the College Station regional in the Los Angeles Super Regional College Station, Texas Regional Regional Champion: 2. TCU (4-1) Eliminated: 3. Ole Miss (2-2) 1. Texas A&M (1-2) 4. Dayton (0-2)
Last edited by jstevenson; 06-12-2012 at 06:30 PM.
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Sailor Stevenson
(05-27-2012, 09:08 PM)
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And just for a little taste of the zany fun of college baseball and it's smallball ways, here's a perfect triple steal executed by Vanderbilt against Florida during the SEC tourney... SO GOOD
http://www.secondemand.com/Theater/T...8-5e94db3212ce |
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Member
(05-29-2012, 02:57 AM)
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Sailor Stevenson
(05-29-2012, 05:47 AM)
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Sailor Stevenson
(05-29-2012, 05:53 AM)
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here's a crazy stat, if everything went just right, Sacred Heart could win the college wold series with a final record of 35-34.
What is the craziest underdog story in all of Men's College Athletics? I point you to the 2008 tournament, where 4 seed (equiv to a 13-16 seed in March Madness) Fresno State won the whole thing. Their final record of 47-31 represented the most losses ever by a national champion: http://baseball.about.com/b/2008/06/...rdog-story.htm |
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He's not our sharpest knife. In fact, he's one of our dullest.
(05-29-2012, 05:55 AM)
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Alright.... For my upset pick in the first round: Samford. They are swinging an incredible bat right now, and have some truly lights out pitching when they are healthy (which they are).
The Southern Conference has some damn fine baseball teams this year. App State won 2 of 3 at LSU, beat Duke, and was ten feet away from beating South Carolina in Columbia. EDIT: Great work on this thread! :D |
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Sailor Stevenson
(05-29-2012, 06:03 AM)
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I like the Samford pick. FSU seems vulnerable right now. I definitely think Charlottesville is the hardest regional, I think any of those four teams could win, and Army upsetting Virginia and Brian O'Conner in game one wouldn't be a huge surprise. Lookout for Indiana State in the Eugene regional as well as Kentucky in Gary. Purdue is a great team, but I think their hot streak from earlier this year elevated them. 6 of their 12 losses have been in the last month. Won't cut it in playoffs. Couple teams that might drop their first games are LSU and UCLA. UL-Monroe (vs LSU) is a solid 4 seed, and Creighton's (vs UCLA) ace is downright nasty, lefty, and they are uber hot at the plate after a cold first 40 games. |
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He's not our sharpest knife. In fact, he's one of our dullest.
(05-29-2012, 06:07 AM)
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Charlottesville is a tough regional to pick. As someone who has watched the entire App State season, they have one incredible starting pitcher and a decent bullpen, but their other starters have talent but not alot of consistency yet. Ryan Arrowood should be starting game 1 for App and just sent the school record for all time wins. He could be a MLB caliber pitcher if he can learn to not get rattled after a walk/hit.
That said, they have the ability to string together hits and get runners on base, but sometimes get a little sloppy in their base running and tend to get thrown out alot. It is also their first NCAA appearance in 25 years, so they may be a bit nervous. Sadly I will be sea kayaking this weekend so I will miss the games. :(
Last edited by outunderthestars; 05-29-2012 at 06:09 AM.
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Sailor Stevenson
(05-30-2012, 02:57 PM)
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#12
Couple Gary regional tidbits:
1. Big Ten Network (and BTN2Go) will air the Gary regional in its entirety. Should be a good second round game between Purdue/Kentucky 2. Big Ten suspended Purdue 2B Charles for one game due to his malicious slide against Indiana and for throwing a punch afterwards. |
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Sailor Stevenson
(05-30-2012, 10:12 PM)
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Also of note, Baton Rouge regional gets TV coverage, but you probably don't get the channel: Cox Sports Television and Jumbo Sports Network have been awarded the exclusive television rights to the 2012 NCAA Baseball Baton Rouge Regional, the NCAA announced Wednesday. All Baton Rouge Regional games (up to seven, if necessary) from Alex Box Stadium, will be carried live on Cox Sports Television (CST), as well as Comcast Sports Southeast (CSS). Friday's game between Belmont and second-seeded Oregon State will start at 2 p.m. CT, with top-seed and host LSU facing ULM at 7 p.m. CT. |
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Sailor Stevenson
(05-31-2012, 05:08 PM)
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(I remember hosting a regional as a national seed and being upset by Manhattan in game one with Joba Chamberlain on the mound for us... sigh) Those trophies sure are pretty though, very cool |
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DEREK SMART,
DEREK SMART, DEREK SMART! (05-31-2012, 05:44 PM)
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#22
I remember the postseason you're talking about... Miami came out of the Lincoln regional, cruised to Omaha, crushed Oregon State, then watched them win it all. We made it to the supers in Athens, hit 5 home runs in a row(!!) to win the first game, then promptly lost the series. |
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Sailor Stevenson
(06-01-2012, 06:28 PM)
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St. John's with the first regional win of the year
Best resource for up-to-date scores: http://www.d1baseball.com |
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DEREK SMART,
DEREK SMART, DEREK SMART! (06-01-2012, 06:44 PM)
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The rain delay in Columbia is killing me!
Not looking great for the SEC so far. Ole Miss and Mississippi State are both in trouble. edit: Samford just made it 2-0 over MSU in the 8th. Ruh roh!
Last edited by impirius; 06-01-2012 at 06:51 PM.
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Sailor Stevenson
(06-01-2012, 07:30 PM)
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(06-01-2012, 07:46 PM)
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FSU were amazing during the regular season but absolutely flamed out in the ACC Tournament. As long as Mike Martin is the coach, I can't really see us winning it.. he's cursed. Maybe excising the Jamey Shouppe tumor will help us in the tournament.
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Sailor Stevenson
(06-01-2012, 07:47 PM)
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#28
as Mississippi St shows, sometimes your conference tourney doesn't matter a lot when it comes to the regionals
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DEREK SMART,
DEREK SMART, DEREK SMART! (06-02-2012, 02:47 AM)
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#33
Both USC and Manhattan had no-hitters going through 5.5 innings. Manhattan's submarine pitcher was throwing in the high 60s to low 70s, but we just kept hitting everything to the warning track. We finally broke through in the 6th inning, and Manhattan got their first hit with 2 outs in the eighth. It would have been a very quick game if not for the thunderstorm. Kentucky had the tying run in scoring position, but couldn't bring him home. Game over! Wish there was video for that one. |
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(06-02-2012, 02:56 AM)
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Sailor Stevenson
(06-02-2012, 03:15 AM)
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Poor Kentucky, they should've been hosting. Instead Miami does and get rocked by Stony Brook, and Kentucky has to play an uber hot / good 3-seed who takes them 21 innings to lose to. 2nd longest game in post-season history
Just horrific luck. Plenty of great pitching, Crawford is only the 7th no hitter in the postseason, and he only faced the minimum, giving up one walk that was erased. So close to perfection. And Baylor loses. Not a big surprise there. Bears used their best baseball up already. I don't think they escape their own regional |
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DEREK SMART,
DEREK SMART, DEREK SMART! (06-02-2012, 03:24 AM)
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Austin Peay just tied it up with Oregon. 4-4 mid 7th. Definitely keeping an eye on the winners bracket game between UCF and Stony Brook tomorrow as well as NC State vs. Vanderbilt. |
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Sailor Stevenson
(06-02-2012, 03:28 AM)
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Sailor Stevenson
(06-02-2012, 07:02 PM)
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Member
(06-02-2012, 07:04 PM)
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#49
Resident Stony Brook Seawolves fan here
Felt good to represent NE baseball with domination of da U yesterday. It'd be awesome to get through this round though. Our sports are really getting on the national map now and getting to the Super Regionals would be another feather in our cap. Looking forward to tonight... alas I'm working though. |
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Member
(06-02-2012, 07:09 PM)
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#50
3rd inning now and it's at least 9-0.
Last edited by GoldenEye 007; 06-02-2012 at 07:15 PM.
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