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Pokemon Black & White 2 Super Music Complete details revealed! #1

First details of the June 25th album release were just revealed.

The album will include 173 tracks with unreleased music from the Pokemon Black & White, Pokemon Emerald and Pokemon Platinum. All tracks will be digitally remastered with supervision from Game Freak's Sound Team. It will include a 24-page booklet documenting the development of Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 and will also include liner notes. (Summary courtesy of VGMdb).

For me: this is fantastic news. I've always wanted to listen to the music from Emerald and Platinum on-album, and being able to listen to demos and unreleased material from B/W is great too. The actual soundtrack will probably be led by Shota Kageyama, knowing my luck, but other Pokemon music leaders like Go Ichinose and Hitomi Sato are bound to be important.
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This will be a treat for the ears :D
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Originally Posted by Dragoon En Regalia: View Post
First details of the June 25th album release were just revealed.

The album will include 173 tracks with unreleased music from the Pokemon Black & White, Pokemon Emerald and Pokemon Platinum. All tracks will be digitally remastered with supervision from Game Freak's Sound Team. It will include a 24-page booklet documenting the development of Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 and will also include liner notes. (Summary courtesy of VGMdb).
HOLY SHIT MUST PREORDER.

I CAN FINALLY HAVE EMERALD'S BATTLE FRONTIER MUSIC YESSSSSSSSS

And 173 tracks on 4 discs? That is HUGE. After Black & White's splendid soundtrack, I was wondering how they'd top it, but this is looking quite promising.
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I can't imagine why people would want to listen to this stuff outside the game since they're just beepety-boopy GBA/DS music. But development on Black & White 2? Have they ever done a development behind-the-scenes thing of a Pokemon game like that before?
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I only like the music from the original Red and Blue.
cant be topped
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They're not just bleepity-bloopity background music. Pokemon music's progressed a lot from the old days, when all that mattered was the quality of the melodies themselves. I also find the effort and creativity put into the most recent soundtrack to be incredible—truly incredible. All of the extras being put into the album are just as admirable.
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Originally Posted by Dragoon En Regalia: View Post
First details of the June 25th album release were just revealed.

The album will include 173 tracks with unreleased music from the Pokemon Black & White, Pokemon Emerald and Pokemon Platinum. All tracks will be digitally remastered with supervision from Game Freak's Sound Team. It will include a 24-page booklet documenting the development of Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 and will also include liner notes. (Summary courtesy of VGMdb).
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Originally Posted by Dragoon En Regalia: View Post
The actual soundtrack will probably be led by Shota Kageyama, knowing my luck, but other Pokemon music leaders like Go Ichinose and Hitomi Sato are bound to be important.
This pleases me. Kageyama's contributions to HG/SS and B/W were pretty fantastic, usually the best from both games, IMO.

I am beyond hyped for the unreleased music, though. I've always hoped that they'd make a compilation of the third versions' new tracks, but this is beyond awesome.
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Originally Posted by Dragoon En Regalia: View Post
They're not just bleepity-bloopity background music. Pokemon music's progressed a lot from the old days, when all that mattered was the quality of the melodies themselves. I also find the effort and creativity put into the most recent soundtrack to be incredible—truly incredible. All of the extras being put into the album are just as admirable.
I'd say this is the best it ever has gotten and I still don't think I would listen to it if I wasn't in the middle of a Pokemon battle, lol.
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meh. The only pokeman OST's i truly loved were R/B and G/S.

Pokemon center theme still rocks each iteration though!
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Originally Posted by The Lamp: View Post
I can't imagine why people would want to listen to this stuff outside the game since they're just beepety-boopy GBA/DS music.
Whatchu talkin' 'bout? Pokémon music is beautiful!
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Originally Posted by The Lamp: View Post
I'd say this is the best it ever has gotten and I still don't think I would listen to it if I wasn't in the middle of a Pokemon battle, lol.
Ooo, love that song. Reminds me, I still need to finish Pokemon Black. The 3DS coming out and making it all fuzzy on my screen and me being unwilling to boot up my (still fine, still awesome) DS Lite has delayed my play-through indefinitely. Well, that and I got addicted to Pokedex 3D.
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Too bad it doesn't have HG/SS. I'd still like to get this though.
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Originally Posted by The Lamp: View Post
I'd say this is the best it ever has gotten and I still don't think I would listen to it if I wasn't in the middle of a Pokemon battle, lol.
Suit yourself, I guess. I'd listen to that beautiful Go Ichinose-arranged battle track anyday!

Originally Posted by Electivirus: View Post
This pleases me. Kageyama's contributions to HG/SS and B/W were pretty fantastic, usually the best from both games, IMO.

I am beyond hyped for the unreleased music, though. I've always hoped that they'd make a compilation of the third versions' new tracks, but this is beyond awesome.
Whoa whoa there—I'm just speculating, my friend. We don't know anything about the actual allocation of sound team talent, anyway, and it could be Go Ichinose in the lead this time around. And believe me: Go was doing the best, most creative work from B/W and HG/SS. Everything else added on top of the new music is nifty for me, simply because it gives me knowledge about who did what from those soundtracks.

Originally Posted by backlot: View Post
Too bad it doesn't have HG/SS. I'd still like to get this though.
HG/SS had an enormous album release a while ago, actually. Check it out!
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Originally Posted by Dragoon En Regalia: View Post
Suit yourself, I guess. I'd listen to that beautiful Go Ichinose-arranged battle track anyday!

Whoa whoa there—I'm just speculating, my friend. We don't know anything about the actual allocation of sound team talent, anyway, and it could be Go Ichinose in the lead this time around. And believe me: Go was doing the best, most creative work from B/W and HG/SS. Everything else added on top of the new music is nifty for me, simply because it gives me knowledge about who did what from those soundtracks.
Fair enough, though I found myself enjoying Kageyama's contributions much more, though Ichinose's weren't bad by any means.

Edit: On second thought, compared to HG/SS's soundtrack release, 172 songs isn't all THAT huge. >.>
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I don't think I want any GBA music. Or DS music for that matter. Give me some Pokemon music that sounds like the Brawl OST and I'll buy it.
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Just for those unacquainted with how much the music's changed over the years: I'mma compare two great Ichinose pieces. Viridian Forest's rearrangement from G/S is really great, even today. But just listen to the Village Bridge theme from B/W! Holy crap is the sound quality greatly-improved, whilst retaining the great melodic components!

Brawl arrangements ranged from superlative to meh for me. Besides: the originals come straight from the source, the hard-working Game Freak sound team.
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I guess this works out as a Limited Edition set for the game. The soundtrack will probably retail for 39.99, and go on special for 24.99 - 27.99 a few months later.
I got the super completes of both FRGL, and SSHG that way.
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2,625 yen for this collection. That's pretty cheap.
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Pokemon's got some great music.

Originally Posted by WhyMe6: View Post
Whatchu talkin' 'bout? Pokémon music is beautiful!
It's funny that this was the exact song I was thinking it would be.
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I shall import the shit out of this, just as I've done with every other Pokemon soundtrack release. July 25 is too unbearable a wait, though. :<
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Another thing to be excited about are the liner notes. Ever since the R/S Super Complete, Game Freak has always provided great commentary from the musicians themselves, which is always a treat to read (even though only the section from the HG/SS Super Complete has been translated into English).
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Originally Posted by Electivirus: View Post
I shall import the shit out of this, just as I've done with every other Pokemon soundtrack release. July 25 is too unbearable a wait, though. :<
Money money money....MONEY! I wish I had a lot of money, I imported the D/P soundtrack a few years ago. Oh well...:/
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I'd have to say Hitomi Sato is my favourite of the Pokémon composers in terms of song quality. In particular, the Poketransfer songs (capture, lab, waiting theme) Mystery Gift theme (especially that awesome B&W remix), B&W Bicycle theme, Frontier Brain battle, Battle Stage, Route 204 (DPP), Pokemon Centre (Night - DPP) & Route 228 (DPP). She's not exactly consistent, but when she produces a great song damn it is good.

More years have passed since RBY/GS though, so Ichinose gives me much stronger feelings of nostalgia. We'll see in ten years who wins out though ;)
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Money money money....MONEY! I wish I had a lot of money, I imported the D/P soundtrack a few years ago. Oh well...:/
Worst comes to worst: there's always YT. Plenty of fans will likely be importing this, and more than a few should be uploading the music soon after. So it's okay in the end.

Hitomi Sato is excellent. But I don't think her style is as pliable and befitting as Ichinose's, mainly because she has trouble coming up with brilliant melodies, unlike Ichinose. Some of his best work has been in B/W, but I do like her D/P route themes due to the contrast they bring to an album dominated by Go (though they split the soundtrack between each other, and Junichi did the last of his self-arranged battle tracks too—they're pretty mediocre for the most part, IMO).

Shota seems to me like the most industrious member of the sound team right now, though. Go's got a penchant for being lazy (which I've gathered from the two commentaries involving him), Hitomi juggles job recruiting and game design with her music stuff, and Junichi and the others are preoccupied too. Their sound team is largely ad-hoc, and the only de-facto leader right now is Ichinose (mainly because he's specialized in music and sound, like Kageyama).
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Man, can't wait to have my hands on this game. Hope this collection will be released sometime in the west, but it's pretty much unlikely, isn't it. :(
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Money money money....MONEY! I wish I had a lot of money, I imported the D/P soundtrack a few years ago. Oh well...:/
Import taxes are what is currently stopping me from importing goodness from Japan.
80€ are not OK for a couple of figures...:(
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I hope there are more arranged tracks included, similar to the four at the end of B/W's soundtrack. I'd love to hear more in-game tracks arranged with live instruments.
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Originally Posted by Electivirus: View Post
I hope there are more arranged tracks included, similar to the four at the end of B/W's soundtrack. I'd love to hear more in-game tracks arranged with live instruments.
I loved those. The arrangements have been getting better and better by the album, and this album should hopefully follow that pattern.

A new pattern that should be followed, though, is selling these albums overseas, not just in Japan. The Pokemon Company should know by now that kids will eat up stuff like Pokemon albums!
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Originally Posted by Dragoon En Regalia: View Post
A new pattern that should be followed, though, is selling these albums overseas, not just in Japan. The Pokemon Company should know by now that kids will eat up stuff like Pokemon albums!
Very much agreed. I'll buy them regardless, but it sure would help to not have to pay import fees when I do so. xD
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I definitely heard some generic-as-hell orchestral themes from Kageyama in the game's first trailer, but the style this game is going for seems to work better for Ichinose, who's known for his brash style of music-making in the Pokemon franchise. There's also going to be less Team Plasma stuff, knowing anything, so that means less from Kageyama? IDK, but it's fun to think things through.
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Black & White, Pokemon Emerald and Pokemon Platinum got albums released? :O

The last official OST I saw were Ruby & Sapphire and FireRed & LeafGreen.
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The Emerald and Platinum soundtracks haven't been released yet, but they'll be on this album to take up space (probably because there won't be much new stuff for B2/W2 alone).
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Oh my.... This might just be the very best thing ever.

I keep going on and on about how much I love Game Freak's music, so there's no way I won't be listening to this.

Edit: Does "unreleased" mean "in the game, but unreleased on previous CDs" or "not released in the game?" I'm hoping its the latter.
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i want to hear the unreleased stuff. that's most important to me.
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I hope there are more arranged tracks included, similar to the four at the end of B/W's soundtrack. I'd love to hear more in-game tracks arranged with live instruments.
hissssssssss

no live instruments in my pokemon

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I can't imagine why people would want to listen to this stuff outside the game since they're just beepety-boopy GBA/DS music.
what kind of logic is this
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But I want to live! I wanna liiive~!

June's going to be a great month in life.
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Originally Posted by The Lamp: View Post
I can't imagine why people would want to listen to this stuff outside the game since they're just beepety-boopy GBA/DS music. But development on Black & White 2? Have they ever done a development behind-the-scenes thing of a Pokemon game like that before?
Beepety-boopy?
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Originally Posted by Gravijah: View Post
hissssssssss

no live instruments in my pokemon
Screw this soundtrack. I want a fully orchestral interpretation.

Oh god don't hurt me again.
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least favorite pokemon ending theme. :(
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My least-favorite would be Junichi Masuda's ending theme from the original game, and that's only because all the other ones are better even if the original is great on its own.

This Ichinose rearrangement of Anville Town's theme sure is 8-bit!
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Originally Posted by Dragoon En Regalia: View Post
My least-favorite would be Junichi Masuda's ending theme from the original game, and that's only because all the other ones are better even if the original is great on its own.[/url]
but it's so gooood~ but the best ending theme of course is the one from RSE.

another thing i found disappointing about BW, musicwise, is the champion theme. BW has some of the very best battle themes in the series, but the champion theme is just... boring.
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Originally Posted by TheOGB: View Post
I was about to post this. This song is really awesome. Subjective statements aside, I don't see how you can call this simply "beepety boopy".
My favorite ending song, by far. Second generation has my second favorite ending theme.
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I never understood the Champion battle theme from B/W. It is, indeed, less inspired than its brethren, and Ichinose arranged the piece as well (though, to be fair, he's getting the melodies and general concept from Masuda most of the time).

Yes: the RSE ending is wondrous, only matched by the ending anthem from FR/LG and the bluesy stuff concluding D/P. And you know what? All done by Ichinose. He has a real hard-on for romantic themes and arrangement.
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I did not even remember what RSE's ending music sounded like.

Why on God's green earth did I forget
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It's okay. I never did like Champion Steven's battle theme either. Really turned me off after how awesome the Elite 4 stuff was.
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Originally Posted by Gravijah: View Post
another thing i found disappointing about BW, musicwise, is the champion theme. BW has some of the very best battle themes in the series, but the champion theme is just... boring.
It's sort of understandable. In every previous game, battling the champion's the conclusion of the story, and the climax of the game, meaning that they need to be impressive and climactic. The battles against N and Ghetsis served that function in Black and White, meaning that the Alder battle was less prominent.

Certainly, the N and Ghetsis battle themes are amongst my favourites.
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Pokemon music haters exist?

I refuse to believe it.
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Less hate, more ignorance. I guess a lot of members here on GAF are rather indifferent to the subject matter.
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Black & White had such great music, once they announced B&W 2 would be a direct sequel I immediately regretted selling my DS :(.

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JyKnKGOQ1Q
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Originally Posted by Dragoon En Regalia: View Post
First details of the June 25th album release were just revealed.

The album will include 173 tracks with unreleased music from the Pokemon Black & White, Pokemon Emerald and Pokemon Platinum. All tracks will be digitally remastered with supervision from Game Freak's Sound Team. It will include a 24-page booklet documenting the development of Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 and will also include liner notes. (Summary courtesy of VGMdb).

For me: this is fantastic news. I've always wanted to listen to the music from Emerald and Platinum on-album, and being able to listen to demos and unreleased material from B/W is great too. The actual soundtrack will probably be led by Shota Kageyama, knowing my luck, but other Pokemon music leaders like Go Ichinose and Hitomi Sato are bound to be important.
Damn...really want this. I wonder how much you'd have to pay to import?

Originally Posted by Acrylic7: View Post
I only like the music from the original Red and Blue.
cant be topped
Not even Pokemon Black/White 1's gym battle?

Man...I dunno, B/W has some great stuff. If 2 manages to top the first gym battle theme...i'm probably going to just leave my DS on for awhile.
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Originally Posted by Rokam: View Post
Black & White had such great music, once they announced B&W 2 would be a direct sequel I immediately regretted selling my DS :(.

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JyKnKGOQ1Q
The XL just got a price drop, and Pokemon looks fucking great on it.