Mognet
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#51

Noooooooooooo ):
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Originally Posted by Toth: View Post
Yeah but the way the game is progressing now, I think we will get something interesting. Yoshi is such a proud dad and FFXIV is his baby girl now so he can't wait to show her off XD
Well they literally have the trailer done, according to Yoshida. So basically they're just sitting on it to release it with more info. So the game is progressing according to schedule.
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I feel bad for the people who care about the Japanese side of SE but it's become increasingly difficult for me to care about them when they still refuse to put anything from their Japanese branch on PC except a rushed MMORPG.

The way things are playing out now, namely Eidos benefitting from SE's cashflow and putting out a lot of interesting projects, is the best situation for me.
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Lol oh square enix


My heart :( it can't take much more.


At least august is close
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Take away Eidos and what do you have left? 2 3DS games and 2 games that aren't very popular anyways.
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Originally Posted by Valorous_Entity: View Post
Take away Eidos and what do you have left? 2 3DS games and 2 games that aren't very popular anyways.
That's like saying EA would have no RPGs if you take away Bioware...you can say that, you are right but you simply can't do it. Just as Bioware is an EA studio, Eidos Montreal, Crystal Dynamics, I/O Interactive, SE Montreal, 1st Production Department, 3rd Production Department (not sure if this one still exists...) are all SE studios.
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Oh wow.... SE was so freaking smart and lucky buying Eidos, because seriously without them they are in a verrrrrry crappy position.

And this comes out from someone who used to be one of the biggest SE fanboys on the planet.

What a shame........
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I just think it's a terrible E3 lineup when Eidos has to carry them.
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No FF XIV, no FF Vs XIII.. Will the Japanese branch of SE even have anything for home consoles this E3?
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Maybe we'll get another executive quote complaining about their lack of Japanese titles this year.
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Originally Posted by Valorous_Entity: View Post
I just think it's a terrible E3 lineup when Eidos has to carry them.
Once again, these are internal studios at this stage. SE finances them, hell they have the split the resources between these studios and their japanese studios (their first fruits of this buy-out are only coming out now as the games from Eidos are releasing). It only makes sense that SE wants to market the shit out of them.

As I've said, it's a great line-up, just not what you'd expect when you think Square-Enix.
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Originally Posted by Mario007: View Post
Once again, these are internal studios at this stage. SE finances them, hell they have the split the resources between these studios and their japanese studios (their first fruits of this buy-out are only coming out now as the games from Eidos are releasing). It only makes sense that SE wants to market the shit out of them.

As I've said, it's a great line-up, just not what you'd expect when you think Square-Enix.
So far you are the only one I've seen saying it's a good lineup. That's fine for you but for me it's a terrible one and I'm not really excited about any of it since I don't have a 3DS. Tomb Raider is the only thing that I'll be interested in.

Unless they pull out a big surprise or something I'll consider this a bad E3 for SE.
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Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen: View Post
No FF XIV, no FF Vs XIII.. Will the Japanese branch of SE even have anything for home consoles this E3?
Perhaps more dlc for XIII-2?
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Originally Posted by sublimit: View Post
Perhaps more dlc for XIII-2?
XIII-2 DLC is completed.
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Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen: View Post
No FF XIV, no FF Vs XIII.. Will the Japanese branch of SE even have anything for home consoles this E3?
FF13-3

believe!
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Originally Posted by Kagari: View Post
XIII-2 DLC is completed.
Ok XIII-3 announcement then. :p
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Slightly disappointed, especially since I was close to grabbing it but decided to wait until E3 to see how it may actually turn out.
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Originally Posted by Valorous_Entity: View Post
So far you are the only one I've seen saying it's a good lineup. That's fine for you but for me it's a terrible one and I'm not really excited about any of it since I don't have a 3DS. Tomb Raider is the only thing that I'll be interested in.

Unless they pull out a big surprise or something I'll consider this a bad E3 for SE.
It's unquestionably a great line-up but we're in a thread about a Final Fantasy. Of course the fans of FF won't necessarily overlap with fans of Hitman or Tomb Raider or Sleeping Dogs (i.e. open world GTA-styled games). Simply two different demographics for those games.
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Originally Posted by sublimit: View Post
Perhaps more dlc for XIII-2?
Originally Posted by toleoring: View Post
FF13-3

believe!
That's certainly a possibility since SE loves giving people what no one asked for or wanted.
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Originally Posted by Sho_Nuff82: View Post
The PS3 version is never releasing, sorry. Feel bad if people were holding out hope that since Square's E3 press release omitted FF 14, they must be keeping several other unannounced games close to the chest.
Then release FFXI on PS3. Not like they can't do it with the 360 version being nearly the same hardware (keyword: nearly. I know they aren't the same)
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Originally Posted by Mario007: View Post
Once again, these are internal studios at this stage. SE finances them, hell they have the split the resources between these studios and their japanese studios (their first fruits of this buy-out are only coming out now as the games from Eidos are releasing). It only makes sense that SE wants to market the shit out of them.

As I've said, it's a great line-up, just not what you'd expect when you think Square-Enix.
I'm sorry, but there's very little about that line-up that screams great. As a long time SE fan, this is as bad a lineup as I've seen them put out in many years.
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Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen: View Post
That's certainly a possibility since SE loves giving people what no one asked for or wanted.
I want it. I want them to finish this XIII trilogy :D

But at the moment, I am not holding out much hope :(
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Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen: View Post
That's certainly a possibility since SE loves giving people what no one asked for or wanted.
And just to be the ultimate troll SE announces that they're doing a remake of FF 5, FF 6 and FF 8 :P
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Originally Posted by Stuart444: View Post
I want it. I want them to finish this XIII trilogy :D

But at the moment, I am not holding out much hope :(
They'll sell you XIII-3 as DLC chapters.

There will be no lube.

Enjoy.

Originally Posted by Mario007: View Post
And just to be the ultimate troll SE announces that they're doing a remake of FF 5, FF 6 and FF 8 :P
HD version of Dirge of Cerberus incoming.
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I think Valiant Saga: Final Fantasy will be there if rumors are true. Although it is not necessarily a game developed in Japan.

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Originally Posted by Mario007: View Post
It's unquestionably a great line-up but we're in a thread about a Final Fantasy. Of course the fans of FF won't necessarily overlap with fans of Hitman or Tomb Raider or Sleeping Dogs (i.e. open world GTA-styled games). Simply two different demographics for those games.
Let's just agree to disagree since nobody's opinion is going to change here.
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Originally Posted by GopherD: View Post
I'm sorry, but there's very little about that line-up that screams great. As a long time SE fan, this is as bad a lineup as I've seen them put out in many years.
Once again you're an SE fan, thus proving my point. Hitman and Tomb Raider only recently became SE properties. That doesn't mean that both of those games don't look great, have quite some hype behind them (especially TR) and have a huge franchise history with lots of fans.
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Originally Posted by toleoring: View Post
I think Valiant Saga: Final Fantasy will be there is rumors are true.
General consenseus is: bullshit.

But I still expecting a surprise Versus trailer....
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Originally Posted by toleoring: View Post
I think Valiant Saga: Final Fantasy will be there if rumors are true. Although it is not necessarily a game developed in Japan.
Erm... that was a blatant fake.
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Originally Posted by Kagari: View Post
Erm... that was a blatant fake.
What was this fake? First time hearing anything with that name (though it's a fake so it's not like it matters then)
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Originally Posted by Kagari: View Post
Erm... that was a blatant fake.
Oh, confirmed? never mind then..
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Originally Posted by Stuart444: View Post
What was this fake? First time hearing anything with that name (though it's a fake so it's not like it matters then)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=475501
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Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen: View Post
They'll sell you XIII-3 as DLC chapters.

There will be no lube.

Enjoy.



HD version of Dirge of Cerberus incoming.
haha the only remake that has 'FFVII' in its name that SE will ever release.

Btw, their best bet would be to release it as a XIII-2 expansion actually. We'll never get the sales figures so no 'bomba' threads and thus more damage to FF brand and 'SE ruined FF' talk. It satisfies the fans of XIII-2 and won't take away too many resources. But that makes too much sense
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Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen: View Post
That's certainly a possibility since SE loves giving people what no one asked for or wanted.
New HD games are hard to do.
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It's such a shame. After playing XI for couple years I was really looking forward to spending a lot of time with XIV. Somehow it's just managed to let me down time and time again. I don't know why I can't stop paying attention to news about it.
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Originally Posted by toleoring: View Post
I think Valiant Saga: Final Fantasy will be there if rumors are true. Although it is not necessarily a game developed in Japan.

edit:
I just noticed the picture actually had an Eidos Montreal logo...they could have gone through a bit more effort to make this more trustworthy since that's a clear bullshit giveaway.
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Originally Posted by Lhexh: View Post
This means it is not going to muck up vanafest too thank god. This is good news. New expansion for XI LET'S GO!!
Too bad XI is doing absolutely nothing to bring in new blood. Hell, you pretty much have to have high-level friends to get anything done as a new player. It's very off-putting, and it's only going to go downhill from there unless they do something to revamp low level gameplay.

Yoshida has really turned XIV around. I'm having a lot of fun with it in its current form. It's a shame it won't have a big presence at E3, but we should at least get some new info!
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I want to be down for the PS3 beta, just throwing that out there.
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Ah right... well I'm not a fan of FFXII (though I'd give it another chance if they made an HD version for the PS3) so it wouldn't have bothered me much.
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Originally Posted by Mario007: View Post
haha the only remake that has 'FFVII' in its name that SE will ever release.

Btw, their best bet would be to release it as a XIII-2 expansion actually. We'll never get the sales figures so no 'bomba' threads and thus more damage to FF brand and 'SE ruined FF' talk. It satisfies the fans of XIII-2 and won't take away too many resources. But that makes too much sense
I actually bought the Crystal Edition of FF XIII-2, so I'm part of the problem :lol I haven't gotten around to playing it yet, but I really liked the demo. Not a huge fan of the nickel and diming DLC approach SE has taken towards XIII-2 though, even if it makes financial sense for them (I guess they need something to offset the losses incurred by FF XIV bombing and Vs XIII never coming out).

I'm still hoping for a HD version of FF XII, but since that's something people are actually asking for, SE will offer a Windows Mobile port of FF 8 instead.
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Originally Posted by Mario007: View Post
Btw, their best bet would be to release it as a XIII-2 expansion actually. We'll never get the sales figures so no 'bomba' threads and thus more damage to FF brand and 'SE ruined FF' talk. It satisfies the fans of XIII-2 and won't take away too many resources. But that makes too much sense
I'd be okay with that. As long as it gives closure to the story, I'd be happy.
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Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen: View Post
I actually bought the Crystal Edition of FF XIII-2, so I'm part of the problem :lol I haven't gotten around to playing it yet, but I really liked the demo. Not a huge fan of the nickel and diming DLC approach SE has taken towards XIII-2 though, even if it makes financial sense for them (I guess they need something to offset the losses incurred by FF XIV bombing and Vs XIII never coming out).
I'm yet to buy it since me and my ps3 have been 8000km apart for the past half a year so I won't actually mind the DLC too much since the game will cost me only around 25 euro. I actually liked their DLC approach up until the story episodes. While they're priced reasonably (Lightning scenario is only like 3.50 euro) they could and should have put in more effort.

But I actually liked XIII too and if this one improves on it and does end the way people say it ends I'll be pissed off if I don't get some sort of a follow-up.
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Please Sony, never again use any Square Enix games in the future for your press conference announcements. Either they go multiplat after years of development (FF XIII), or they are vaporware (versus XIII, FF XIV PS3). Really pathetic.
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Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen: View Post
I actually bought the Crystal Edition of FF XIII-2, so I'm part of the problem :lol I haven't gotten around to playing it yet, but I really liked the demo. Not a huge fan of the nickel and diming DLC approach SE has taken towards XIII-2 though, even if it makes financial sense for them (I guess they need something to offset the losses incurred by FF XIV bombing and Vs XIII never coming out).

I'm still hoping for a HD version of FF XII, but since that's something people are actually asking for, SE will offer a Windows Mobile port of FF 8 instead.
I bought the Crystal Edition version myself... and I regret nothing (though I might regret it if they don't do a follow-up and give closure to it >_< )

However if they announced a port of FF8 for Windows Mobile, I'd rage (I like FF8 but porting it to windows mobile is just not needed >_< )
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I wonder if there's any remote chance of an XV announcement in some (very early!) form.

I can think of dozens of good reasons *not* to do one, of course - Versus is still somewhere in a bizarre limbo, XIV needs to find its feet again, the FFX remake is due at some point (and that might be something they show off this E3 from the Japanese side of things and 'new') - but at the moment there's nothing really brewing in terms of 'normal' FF development, and a part of me thinks they'd like to at least acknowledge that XV will exist.

Further musings: Which department did the My Life As A... games, and what have they been working on lately?
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Originally Posted by reminder: View Post
Please Sony, never again use any Square Enix games in the future for your press conference announcements. Either they go multiplat after years of development (FF XIII), or they are vaporware (versus XIII, FF XIV PS3). Really pathetic.
Versus and FF XIV aren't vaporware anymore though. FF XIV has a tentative release date and Versus gameplay footage and confirmation of development was issued last year.

Originally Posted by Stuart444: View Post
I bought the Crystal Edition version myself... and I regret nothing (though I might regret it if they don't do a follow-up and give closure to it >_< )

However if they announced a port of FF8 for Windows Mobile, I'd rage (I like FF8 but porting it to windows mobile is just not needed >_< )
Haha here's a port of FF on a platform pretty much no one uses...yeah, sounds like SE :P

Originally Posted by mclem: View Post
I wonder if there's any remote chance of an XV announcement in some (very early!) form.

I can think of dozens of good reasons *not* to do one, of course - Versus is still somewhere in a bizarre limbo, XIV needs to find its feet again, the FFX remake is due at some point (and that might be something they show off this E3 from the Japanese side of things and 'new') - but at the moment there's nothing really brewing in terms of 'normal' FF development, and a part of me thinks they'd like to at least acknowledge that XV will exist.

Further musings: Which department did the My Life As A... games, and what have they been working on lately?
I'd say they are pretty far along with XV development but will wait till next year to reveal it, then info blitz and release for Christmas.

I think My Life as A... games were outsourced with SE people being development leads (kinda like TWEWY or the KH DS games)
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XIII-3 CG trailer at E3 and gameplay trailer at TGS!
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So i guess versusxiii will get full their full attention and spotlight then.

Can't wait!!!
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Would a 13-3 reveal be too early?
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Originally Posted by B.K.: View Post
XIII-3 CG trailer at E3 and gameplay trailer at TGS!
I keep laughing at people mentioning this... it must be true!