[Pazuzu9]

Custom soundtracks for every game on PS4.

Such a waste of resources to force that on all games, when those not suited to custom soundtracks (i.e. most story-driven games) could be using that power on something better. If you're that desperate for different music, mute the music, keep the effects (which you can already do in most games), and play stuff from a hi-fi or whatever.

The only game I've played on PS3 that I thought suited a custom soundtrack was Wipeout HD, and it had the feature.

[NinjaFridge]

I'd like some integration with my phone, so if i get a text or a call i can reply through the system. Can't imagine it would be too difficult to implement.

[Monty Mole]

The ability to set "brightness" levels only once in the OS, and every game adhering to that calibration. Sick to death of every game asking me if I can see the grey alien against the black background.

[Cake Boss]

Ability to stream/watch what your friend is playing.

[Combichristoffersen]

Such a waste of resources to force that on all games, when those not suited to custom soundtracks (i.e. most story-driven games) could be using that power on something better. If you're that desperate for different music, mute the music, keep the effects (which you can already do in most games), and play stuff from a hi-fi or whatever. The only game I've played on PS3 that I thought suited a custom soundtrack was Wipeout HD, and it had the feature.

It's the only OS feature of the 360 I'm jelly of. Cross-game chat and all that nonsense is of no importance to me, but I want to be able to listen to my own music selection for racing games, not what the devs put in the game (GT5 did have custom soundtracks though). For story-driven games it's obviously not particularly important.

[RedSwirl]

For starters, copy Steam. Valve is ahead of both Sony and Microsoft when it comes to community features. So I'd like the latter two to adopt:

-Timelines of friend activity (games played, completed, etc.).

-Log the amount of time you and your friends have spent playing each game. I've used this feature a lot to know which friend I need to ask if a game is good or not.

-The ability for people to post reviews and recommendations for each game, similar to Steam and the App Store.

-The ability to pre-order and pre-load digital games.

-Special offers on digital pre-orders, like giving you the previous game in a franchise for free.

-The ability to gift games (I think the Wii lets you do this).

-Free weekends for multiplayer games.

-The ability to establish and join persistent groups that can schedule games and post to their own message boards.

-Support for Free-to-play gaming.

-Cross-game IM.

[DopeyFish]

Long ago we had a START BUTTON. That button was putting you in the game in about 1,5 seconds. Nowadays that button doesn't do jack. We need now need a "QUICK START" button. I want that fucking button to be pressed as soon as I boot the game and would bring me right into the action instead of suffering through 15 mins intro + half of the game credits + 20 mins cut-scenes. EDIT: oh damn, I thought this was the controller thread for some reason. Well, It would be great to have an OS function that automatically skips business names and the blablabla before the title screen. Auto cut-scene skip wouldn't hurt either.

Some developers (like bungie) use cutscenes for loading so everything is seamless

Now for my requests:

-Video chat (via overlays)
-Game recording and uploading/streaming with OS elements disabled (pop up web cam when wanted and ability to use headset for recording audio) including across network for personal use (dumping onto a network drive)
-clan support with integration of leagues (MLG?) ... Imagine the rate of participation for games will go up... When you can play a tournament on your box - with a full calendar... Pay way in, earn prizes if success is found!
-ability to jump out of a game, do something on the dashboard, jump back into the game without missing a beat
There's more I want, I'm just drawing blanks right now lol

^^ MS is tracking a ton of data if you look at their rewards website... They just don't show you a lot, and haven't integrated anything into the dashboard... It might be coming eventually

[mdtauk]

Ability to stream/watch what your friend is playing.

This is a great idea, especially so for Online Multiplayer games. If these can be live streams, and uploadable to YouTube - this would be great for the future of Let's Plays etc. Instead of the questionable copyright, it would be explicitly allowed and encouraged.

[AndyMoogle]

Such a waste of resources to force that on all games, when those not suited to custom soundtracks (i.e. most story-driven games) could be using that power on something better. If you're that desperate for different music, mute the music, keep the effects (which you can already do in most games), and play stuff from a hi-fi or whatever. The only game I've played on PS3 that I thought suited a custom soundtrack was Wipeout HD, and it had the feature.

It doesn't need much resources at all if they plan to have it in there to begin with. MS has that and cross game chat, and they use less RAM for their OS than what Sony do on PS3.

Next gen consoles will probably have at least 256MB of RAM, and possibly one whole CPU core, dedicated to the OS. Custom soundtracks should not be a problem at all.

[IamMikeside]

a lot of these have already been mentioned, but...

Cross game party chat

Custom soundtrack support

Removable Storage Support

Flac, MKV, AVI, Mpeg etc all supported out of the box

Support for USB mice, keyboards, 3rd party controllers (a la PS3)

Video and Image Capture

In-Game Overlay with Store (for buying DLC etc), Web Browser (for guides etc) and in-built game manual (I think PSX games on PSP have this?)

Multiple Profiles, switchable in-game (kicking back to the menu is OK)

Connectable to popular social media (but ability to turn this off - infact...)

...Ability to turn off ANY KIND OF POP-UP and make yourself appear offline. When playing something like Heavy Rain, I don't want to be getting messages about who is online and such

Decent parental controls for families with kids who shouldn't be playing 18s and the like.

Save state or something for sleep mode - ideally this would be on a per-user basis so if I've put FFXXVII to sleep, my other half can pick up playing LittleBigPlanet 7 without screwing me over

[herod]

I would like to see no dashboard. Instant loading from cartridges, no hard drives or other installation options whatsoever. Like back when consoles were good.

[radioheadrule83]

For Wii-U:

- tablet functionality for menus, swipes, tapping, zoomy shit... but only where it makes sense.

- universal remote control functionality via the IR port. The tablet should control other devices and be able to learn custom commands.

- silent updates and a persistent OS for game suspension (a la 3DS), notifications and messaging (I think this is hinted at in rumours already)

- if the controller could wake on notification, or buzz, or make a noise, or glow or whatever, that would be pretty cool too



For all:

- I'd like to see user friendships, messaging and notification systems exposed via an API, even if they don't make a gaming API. That way we could make apps for the web and mobile platforms that are compatible with those friend networks... it would mean Facebook and Google could leverage the new consoles too. I don't think Wii-U will be the only platform to attempt to explore the 'app' culture this generation, so I think it would be in all of their interests to have a programming API / SDK, but I don't think that will happen to the degree I want, if I'm honest -- it'll be stuff like PS Suite and XDK -- we won't actually be able to get at the most important features of the console we need. I hope I'm wrong.

- robust DLNA support for sharing with other computers and smart TVs

[OldJadedGamer]

Such a waste of resources to force that on all games, when those not suited to custom soundtracks (i.e. most story-driven games) could be using that power on something better. If you're that desperate for different music, mute the music, keep the effects (which you can already do in most games), and play stuff from a hi-fi or whatever. The only game I've played on PS3 that I thought suited a custom soundtrack was Wipeout HD, and it had the feature.

360 has had this feature since launch and I barely ever use it at all. It is a waste. The only good thing its for is EA games with shitty soundtracks.

I would like to see no dashboard. Instant loading from cartridges, no hard drives or other installation options whatsoever. Like back when consoles were good.

You can do this now on the 360 minus the carts. Just make it auto load and you'll never see the dash and no game on the system has a forced install.

[Slayven]

Save anywhere and save states should be standard in all next gen systems.

[muu]

Internet play by community groups. MS started on it with rec/underground/etc groups and never did anything with it, Nintendo had a flawed system that was in MK7. Worldwide rankings are a joke anyway, this will be closer to the pc experience of playing on your favorite server against all the regulars and such. Activision should be a big proponent to this sort of thing, after all that was what cod elite seemed to be eventually aiming for (versus the useless state it is in now).

[herod]

You can do this now on the 360 minus the carts. Just make it auto load and you'll never see the dash and no game on the system has a forced install.

INSTANT loading.

[Slayven]

In game Pandora integration.

[Fredrik]

OS level option for visual effects and screen resolution to get the framerate stable in games if the developers have been lazy.

Completely customizable desktop/homescreen with widgets and apps with live scoreboards for your favorite games etc placed anywhere you want.

NAS connectability, play music, videos, games from a NAS drive.

[radioheadrule83]

Internet play by community groups. MS started on it with rec/underground/etc groups and never did anything with it, Nintendo had a flawed system that was in MK7. Worldwide rankings are a joke anyway, this will be closer to the pc experience of playing on your favorite server against all the regulars and such. Activision should be a big proponent to this sort of thing, after all that was what cod elite seemed to be eventually aiming for (versus the useless state it is in now).

Communities is supposedly a part of what they're doing with Wii-U from what we've been told, so I think that's pretty cool... a NeoGAF community for all games = awesome

[KageMaru]

My issue with a robust OS is that it usually takes resources from the devs.

So my wish is that they are as lean as possible. I'll be disappointed if more than 200MB of memory goes to the OS. Even that is a lot IMO.

[OldJadedGamer]

INSTANT loading.

I'll take a little loading over games that cost $30 more without loading.

[Ashes1396]

I'd like to put my disc in once, and have it be on my system like a digital file.

Since they are gonna screw up the second hand market next gen, I'd like to get all the benefits of a single unsaleble game licence purchase pls.

[Dacvak]

The only way screenshot/video recording integration would happen is with a separate adapter or processor that doesn't interfere with the hardware rendering the game. No matter what, you'll have performance issues if this relied on the main processor. Even taking screenshots would probably be enough to drop the framerate a bit. Just look at the iOS devices.

But if it was an optional adapter kind of thing, with its own processor, that might work.

[RoyalFool]

'Lend a game' feature, select a game, select your friend and you can lend it to him. He can then download and play it until you claim it back.

In all truth we know such a thing would never be in the platform holders interest to implement, so for the sake of realism how about the person receiving the game has to pay 300MS points per week for the loan to take place.

[Ein Bear]

My issue with a robust OS is that it usually takes resources from the devs. So my wish is that they are as lean as possible. I'll be disappointed if more than 200MB of memory goes to the OS. Even that is a lot IMO.

This!

I don't care about any bells and whistles, these things are games consoles and I want all the resources to go towards the games themselves.

[radioheadrule83]

'Lend a game' feature, select a game, select your friend and you can lend it to him. He can then download and play it until you claim it back. In all truth we know such a thing would never be in the platform holders interest to implement, so for the sake of realism how about the person receiving the game has to pay 300MS points per week for the loan to take place.

Some games can be beaten in a week. They just won't do it.

I think they'd be better off just having a rental system. Fixed prices for multi-day rentals, or a subscription fee. I would pay a monthly fee to have a package where I could play <x> number of games a month, any games of my choosing, as I do with films on LoveFilm.

[radioheadrule83]

The only way screenshot/video recording integration would happen is with a separate adapter or processor that doesn't interfere with the hardware rendering the game. No matter what, you'll have performance issues if this relied on the main processor. Even taking screenshots would probably be enough to drop the framerate a bit. Just look at the iOS devices. But if it was an optional adapter kind of thing, with its own processor, that might work.

RE: Screenshots, at least -

With the 3DS, when you suspend a game, the top and bottom screen images are captured from the framebuffer and warped to meld with the 3D OS... there's absolutely no reason 3DS users shouldn't be able to save the captured 3D framebuffer imo. Those images could then be shared via Swapnote or whatever to help build hype. Homebrewers got it working on PSP, and its a function on Vita... They could do similar things on all of the consoles.

[Hey You]

Some games can be beaten in a week. They just won't do it. I think they'd be better off just having a rental system. Fixed prices for multi-day rentals, or a subscription fee. I would pay a monthly fee to have a package where I could play <x> number of games a month, any games of my choosing, as I do with films on LoveFilm.

I've always wanted this, video stores are slowly going away so that leaves less and less options to rent video games.

Maybe more people would be willing to rent (with money going to MS and maybe the Dev/publisher) than buying second hand (without any money going to MS/Dev/Pub/).

[funkystudent]

Video capturing seems like a real waste of power.


There is a list of features the ps4 should get that the ps3 couldnt due to hardware and the shitty way they programmed the OS. Custom soundtracks, OS level parties, screenshots,


I just hope they design there OS's in such a way that they can upgrade better as the systems life goes on.


Have 4GB's total RAM and have 512mb reserved for the OS.

Even if on day 1 it only uses around 100-200mb it would be smart to have that room to grow.




Really curious what they add to the next xbox though. Live seems pretty great as is. I'm not sure what completely new features they could add other then just making the performance better and adding some small things here and there.


In game Video chat seems like a bullet point but I couldn't see anyone using it.

In game Skype is a guarantee which is cool I guess. I wonder if they will let skype on ps4?

[Croc]

For starters, copy Steam. Valve is ahead of both Sony and Microsoft when it comes to community features. So I'd like the latter two to adopt: -Timelines of friend activity (games played, completed, etc.). -Log the amount of time you and your friends have spent playing each game. I've used this feature a lot to know which friend I need to ask if a game is good or not. -The ability for people to post reviews and recommendations for each game, similar to Steam and the App Store. -The ability to pre-order and pre-load digital games. -Special offers on digital pre-orders, like giving you the previous game in a franchise for free. -The ability to gift games (I think the Wii lets you do this). -Free weekends for multiplayer games. -The ability to establish and join persistent groups that can schedule games and post to their own message boards. -Support for Free-to-play gaming. -Cross-game IM.

These are some ones I'd really like to see. Timelines of friend activity would be so awesome, I'd be reading that stuff all the time. Same with the time spent playing. I love stats like that and I know I'd always be looking at it.

[Stumpokapow]

let me turn off stuff i don't use

(hint: i don't use 95% of the stuff you want to offer me)

[crimsonheadGCN]

The ability to create and join gaming groups like in the Steam Community or MK7 Communities.

let me turn off stuff i don't use (hint: i don't use 95% of the stuff you want to offer me)

Also, this.

[Leondexter]

For the love of god let us remap buttons at the OS level since developers are too fucking lazy to put that feature in most games.

Yes. This has been in my head ever since the 360 launched with the ability to auto-invert the Y axis.

[Kyoufu]

Ability to stream/watch what your friend is playing.

I'll buy any console that does this on day 1.

[DeVeAn]

Simply Dashboard. So many fucking tabs. At least let me hide tabs that are useless to me.

[Huw_Dawson]

1) SPEED.

Resource-light, fast, and a focus on being able to do everything the console can do without having to exit out of the game. Avoid needless popups and make things like playing local multiplayer as simple as possible. MS also needs to sort out the mess that is controller hotswapping. The PS3's approach is blindingly simple - hold Home, go to controller settings and reasign the controller's number. MS need to copy this.

2) APPS.

An open app store. This one is obvious.

3) KEYBOARD AND MOUSE SUPPORT.

Many games and genres are far better on PC purely because of the control scheme. Allowing for KB/M input would revolutionise the kind of game you can play on consoles. Combined with an app store, it could also revolutionise the kind of thing you can use a console for.

That's my top three.

[OldJadedGamer]

Simply Dashboard. So many fucking tabs. At least let me hide tabs that are useless to me.

I agree with this. I would hide many channels on both the Dashboard and XMB.

[EloquentM]

Live streams of your friend playing.

[Chacranajxy]

I want to have easy access to all my games with little to no menu navigation required, and no ads. That's it.

[Combichristoffersen]

1) SPEED. Resource-light, fast, and a focus on being able to do everything the console can do without having to exit out of the game. Avoid needless popups and make things like playing local multiplayer as simple as possible. MS also needs to sort out the mess that is controller hotswapping. The PS3's approach is blindingly simple - hold Home, go to controller settings and reasign the controller's number. MS need to copy this. 2) APPS. An open app store. This one is obvious. 3) KEYBOARD AND MOUSE SUPPORT. Many games and genres are far better on PC purely because of the control scheme. Allowing for KB/M input would revolutionise the kind of game you can play on consoles. Combined with an app store, it could also revolutionise the kind of thing you can use a console for. That's my top three.

PS3 already supports M+KB, but AFAIK the only game that has bothered to implement it was UT3.

[RedSwirl]

Save anywhere and save states should be standard in all next gen systems.

Hell yeah. At the very least allow a universal temporary save state system like what the Wii does for Virtual Console games.

[weekend_warrior]

Installing the game on the HD so a disk isn't required to play.

[Bending_Unit_22]

For the most part I just want some option to be able to more quickly start the game in the drive. Like hold A as it powers up, goes straight to game in drive. Other things would be nice but enything else is something I can do on my laptop or other devices even easier so it's not a big deal to me.

EDIT: I guess what BHZ Mayor said also.

[BHZ Mayor]

Tie game saves to your account as well as locally.

[Coen]

Customization would be key. I'm mainly a solo player, I usually play one game at a time and I buy games online, but I'm not really interested in DLC. I want my dashboard to reflect that. I recognize some people use their systems different, so I want the option to hide, rearrange and alter stuff as I see fit.

[Black_Stride]

Letting the console hold multiple discs at once. I hate switching discs, but I love having the disc, package and booklet so download only is not an option.

Next gen games are not going to break the 50/100gb limit of dl/tl Blu Ray discs unless devs give up entirely on compression , so holding multiple discs is highly highly unlikely and honestly unnecessary. How many PS3 games were multidisc?

You might get a slight decrease, but nothing major as long as your PC doesn't suck. I don't have problem recording gameplay on my rig at all. And yes, I can max out all of my games and record 1080p/ 60fps :)

At 60fps full 1080p?....what shitty games are you playing and on what settings low??, Cuz recording at 1080 60fps fraps rapes my machine in every game worth mentioning.
To maintain i always compromise, either 30fps or half res in Fraps.

On Topic
Screenshots/movies saving.
Xbox/Sony cloud, where we upload our screenshots and movies accessible on PC.
Full install option
Browser - just cuz im lazy as fuck sometimes

[KageMaru]

This! I don't care about any bells and whistles, these things are games consoles and I want all the resources to go towards the games themselves.

Yeah I don't think people realize that a heavy OS can effect game performance or quality.

[OldJadedGamer]

Next gen games are not going to break the 50/100gb limit of dl/tl Blu Ray discs unless devs give up entirely on compression , so holding multiple discs is highly highly unlikely and honestly unnecessary. How many PS3 games were multidisc?

I'm pretty sure he's talking about multiple games. Like a 5 disc dvd player, they aren't all the same movie.

[NinjaFridge]

I'd like to put my disc in once, and have it be on my system like a digital file. Since they are gonna screw up the second hand market next gen, I'd like to get all the benefits of a single unsaleble game licence purchase pls.

This, but I won't be surprised if they don't do it.

[The Albatross]

Long ago we had a START BUTTON. That button was putting you in the game in about 1,5 seconds. Nowadays that button doesn't do jack. We need now need a "QUICK START" button. I want that fucking button to be pressed as soon as I boot the game and would bring me right into the action instead of suffering through 15 mins intro + half of the game credits + 20 mins cut-scenes. EDIT: oh damn, I thought this was the controller thread for some reason. Well, It would be great to have an OS function that automatically skips business names and the blablabla before the title screen. Auto cut-scene skip wouldn't hurt either.

Actually I think that this is more fitting for the OS discussion than anything else. You should be able to set a quick boot time that boots games faster than currently. A lot of times it can take ... 2, 3, 4 minutes to actually play a game between the loading screens, the console OS, trademarks, etc. It's ridiculous.