[catfish]

It was exactly the same with the original release of the game, which also had plenty of bugs and issues with achievements, pretty much everything got patched, but I'm assuming this expansion introduced a whole bunch of new issues.

yeah i got 2 pretty tricky achievements (beat sheol with juda and beat the final chapter with cain) no unlocks.

will they unlock if the issue gets fixed? love the game, but that would annoy me, it's one of the games I actually like achievement chasing due to the different ways it makes you play, that plus the randomness is crack (to the tune of 100 hours) but now I get NOTHING....

[Therion]

yeah i got 2 pretty tricky achievements (beat sheol with juda and beat the final chapter with cain) no unlocks. will they unlock if the issue gets fixed? love the game, but that would annoy me, it's one of the games I actually like achievement chasing due to the different ways it makes you play, that plus the randomness is crack (to the tune of 100 hours) but now I get NOTHING....

With the original game, it downloaded a patch and then a whole slew of achievements unlocked for me. Hopefully the same will happen with the expansion. Even though the game doesn't display them for me, I know it's still tracking them since my secret counter is going up and at least one unlocked item has been showing up in-game.

[Rickenslacker]

I knew that it was always possible to have huge tear Spirit Bombs but I never managed it myself, until now!



Damn it all though, I fucked up and died on the next floor.

[Gilby]

Anyone figured out what the matchstick does yet?

[Rickenslacker]

Anyone figured out what the matchstick does yet?

According to this it increases your chances of finding bombs from drops.

[Conciliator]

WAT. Did not know this came out. Installing currently will play 4ever.

[Glix]

I want this....

The whole joy-2-key thing annoys me. I mean, I have j2k installed on my machine already....

AND I would rather play this with kb BUT

my kb is currently flaky (bad battery cover) so I would need to play with a controller.

It just annoys me so much, it's not even so much that it's not implemented, but that it is acknowledged in the options. The dev knows it's an oversight and doesn't care. It really rubs me the wrong way.

[Gilby]

According to this it increases your chances of finding bombs from drops.

Ah ok, last time I checked that still said "unknown effect" I was holding on to it just in case it did something crazy in the final room.

[platypotamus]

Just made it to Satan with ???. Furthest I've ever gotten with him without book of Revelations. Actually further than I've ever gotten with him even with it. Technology 2 + sacred heart + The mark + Rock + Coal... maybe something else in there. I was doing a lot of damage.

[npm0925]

I broke the game. I had Isaac with rage, charge shot, max damage, and tooth shot. When I charged to full, my shots would literally be as large as the entire screen (the tooth was probably as large as two screens). I one-hit killed Sheol (leg form), and the game never registered the kill.

[Therion]

I broke the game. I had Isaac with rage, charge shot, max damage, and tooth shot. When I charged to full, my shots would literally be as large as the entire screen (the tooth was probably as large as two screens). I one-hit killed Sheol (leg form), and the game never registered the kill.

Maybe you were so awe-inspiring that the game recognized you as Sheol's new master and left you to take up residence in your new home.

[Acerac]

Holy crap Samson is so horrible. Easily half the deaths on my file are from trying to use this crippled character and dying in the first minute or two of the game. He makes Eve and Mark look overpowered.

I was FINALLY able to take him through the cathedral on my last run due to being lucky and getting Ipecac on the first floor. Such an amazing item, it allowed me to ignore his horrific stats and just muscle through the first few floors til I built up my hearts. A lucky "The Sun" card drop in utero allowed me to cruise through the end with little difficulty.

Such an amazing game. Now I just need to beat Hell with Samson and the Cathedral with Mark and Eve before I move on to the challenge runs.

[Joe Molotov]

Did the Blood Bank get nerfed? I'm finding it much more difficult to get Blood Bags now that I was before and I almost just get a single coin, even with Cain's Lucky Foot.

[Acerac]

Did the Blood Bank get nerfed? I'm finding it much more difficult to get Blood Bags now that I was before and I almost just get a single coin, even with Cain's Lucky Foot.

I believe that other items can now drop from blood banks. Before it was almost a guaranteed heart container if you walked in to a casino with a few hearts and 15 coins, I'm glad they were made a bit more risky.

For all the changes that made the game easier they sure added a few stumbling blocks to old strategies.

[MrNyarlathotep]

With the original game, it downloaded a patch and then a whole slew of achievements unlocked for me. Hopefully the same will happen with the expansion. Even though the game doesn't display them for me, I know it's still tracking them since my secret counter is going up and at least one unlocked item has been showing up in-game.

Anyone having trouble with achievements showing up, try this - it consistently works for me.

- go to your game directory (C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\the binding of isaac is mine)
- delete the file flashachievements.exe
- go into steam and verify integrity of cache for binding of isaac; it'll tell you some files are missing (because you just deleted it) and redownload them
- start the game

TBOI regualrly seems to 'desync' with achievements not unlocking for me, but this works every time. YMMV.

[flowsnake]

Mark?

[Acerac]

Mark?

??? seemed like a rather lame name so I've taken to calling him Mark as a shortened version of Question Mark.

Seems like a good enough name considering the biblical link is still there. Granted it's not canon or anything but it's a lot easier to say than "???".

[chiablo]

??? seemed like a rather lame name so I've taken to calling him Mark as a shortened version of Question Mark. Seems like a good enough name considering the biblical link is still there. Granted it's not canon or anything but it's a lot easier to say than "???".

BRILLIANT!

[Therion]

From Ed's blog:

Update v1.2 has just gone live on steam. ————— Wrath of the Lamb v1.2 update log. -Fixed missing sounds -Balanced a few things -Fixed the Milk bug -Fixed item list issues -Fixed spelunker hat -Fixed missing ghost baby -Added missing bosses -Samson slightly buffed. -Other minor tweaks, edits and balancing. *Content update coming soon* —————

[Haunted]

That sounds like a nice patch.

I liked Samson as is, blood lust can be really powerful. I imagine his fire rate got upped (can't check right now).

??? seemed like a rather lame name so I've taken to calling him Mark as a shortened version of Question Mark. Seems like a good enough name considering the biblical link is still there. Granted it's not canon or anything but it's a lot easier to say than "???".

I personally love Blue Baby as ???'s nickname. :p

[Therion]

I liked Samson as is, blood lust can be really powerful. I imagine his fire rate got upped (can't check right now).

I played a quick game earlier and noticed Samson started with one regular and one soul heart. (That's what prompted me to check for patch notes.) Not sure what else, if anything, has been changed.

[Haunted]

I played a quick game earlier and noticed Samson started with one regular and one soul heart. (That's what prompted me to check for patch notes.) Not sure what else, if anything, has been changed.

That makes sense as well. Helps out on the first two floors without changing him fundamentally. I would've also accepted him starting with two heart containers but only one filled or something.


I'm curious what the "added missing bosses" thing is all about. I noticed the newer bosses (and items) appearing more often than some of the old stuff so I'm definitely sure he's messed with the drop rates (new stuff > old stuff) but I wasn't aware that bosses were outright missing.

[Therion]

I'm curious what the "added missing bosses" thing is all about. I noticed the newer bosses (and items) appearing more often than some of the old stuff so I'm definitely sure he's messed with the drop rates (new stuff > old stuff) but I wasn't aware that bosses were outright missing.

This was a Q&A on his formspring:

Can you please answer why Gurdy Jr. isn't spawning like a real boss? And who is The Wretched boss? somehow those bosses got locked... no idea why. also surprised i somehow forgot about them... i added to much content. they will be in the next update (tonight or tomorrow)

(The "next update" refers to the one we just got.)

[Recarpo]

Is anybody else having issues with challenges relocking after they have been unlocked? I've done challenges 1-9 and attempted challenge 10 at one point, but now 10 is locked again and I can't seem to get it unlocked. Any ideas how to fix it?

[Acerac]

Is anybody else having issues with challenges relocking after they have been unlocked? I've done challenges 1-9 and attempted challenge 10 at one point, but now 10 is locked again and I can't seem to get it unlocked. Any ideas how to fix it?

Did you beat the new last stage? I unlocked the final challenge without doing any of the previous ones after I downed it.

[dk_]

Did the update fix the flawed achievement unlocking with the challenges?

[awwyeahgurrl]

Did the update fix the flawed achievement unlocking with the challenges?

No, I'm still getting the issue but if I close and re-open the game it pops then.

[Stumpokapow]

A wonderful GAFfer gifted me this totally out of left field. I don't think I'll get to play it for a few weeks, but thank you ver much anyway and I can't wait to check out some of the changes! :)

[Therion]

Just finished a game with an amazing item combo:

Habit + Yum Heart + Wafer = Invincibility (as long as you remember to press space).

Pretty cool to be able to just charge at enemies at will without worrying about getting killed. It also made blood banks extremely lucrative, guaranteeing I could play them until they popped an item, as well as keeping me topped up at 99 coins.

[Incendiary]

Just finished a game with an amazing item combo: Habit + Yum Heart + Wafer = Invincibility (as long as you remember to press space). Pretty cool to be able to just charge at enemies at will without worrying about getting killed. It also made blood banks extremely lucrative, guaranteeing I could play them until they popped an item, as well as keeping me topped up at 99 coins.

I had a similar experience except it went south. I had the Habit + Book of Revelations and was basically wrecking because I also had Dead Dove + Lil Steven + Harlequin Baby + Meat Boy Lvl 2. Except that run-through I unlocked Sheol for the first time and ended up dying because everything in there takes a full heart so it took two charges to replenish my strength so I'd only get one soul heart for every two damage and it just went bad. :(

[Haunted]

This was a Q&A on his formspring: (The "next update" refers to the one we just got.)

Excellent.

Just finished a game with an amazing item combo: Habit + Yum Heart + Wafer = Invincibility (as long as you remember to press space). Pretty cool to be able to just charge at enemies at will without worrying about getting killed. It also made blood banks extremely lucrative, guaranteeing I could play them until they popped an item, as well as keeping me topped up at 99 coins.

Yeah, Habit + Wafer + any heal item (Yum's Heart/Nail/Book of Revelations) is the most broken combo in the game, as you can't... die.

Although Sacred Heart and a bunch of tears up are almost as broken and more fun to watch. :D

[flowsnake]

Man, the mega fetus shows up way too much. Technology 2 does too, but it's usually too weak for me to want it (and negates too many other things).

The RNG still feels much too skewed to new items in general to me.

[Acerac]

Man, the mega fetus shows up way too much. Technology 2 does too, but it's usually too weak for me to want it (and negates too many other things). The RNG still feels much too skewed to new items in general to me.

I've yet to see the mega fetus.

Have you been using any single character a lot? I've noticed that some characters get certain drops more often than others.

[L00P]

After hours of deaths and retries, I finally beat both Satan and the cathedral boss as Samson.

Unless he gets buffed in the future, I don't think I'll touch this character ever again

[flowsnake]

I've yet to see the mega fetus. Have you been using any single character a lot? I've noticed that some characters get certain drops more often than others.

I didn't realize that. I've mostly been using Isaac for the d6, so maybe that's part of it.

I've also noticed that Blood Lust (Samson's item) seems to show up a lot, especially in devil rooms. Makes him even more useless since another character can often pick up his one redeeming feature.

[-PXG-]

I wonder when Edmund will unlock the the unfinished content for Wrath. Apparently there is yet another "true" final boss.

[Acerac]

I didn't realize that. I've mostly been using Isaac for the d6, so maybe that's part of it. I've also noticed that Blood Lust (Samson's item) seems to show up a lot, especially in devil rooms. Makes him even more useless since another character can often pick up his one redeeming feature.

I noticed a lot of repeats myself when using Isaac, so you're not alone there. I think Isaac is meant to be overpowered. I'm surprised that Samson just seems so weak though... perhaps he's there for people who found Eve to be too powerful.

Blood Lust isn't supposed to show up until you beat the game with Samson, but thanks to a bug it shows up despite this.

I wonder when Edmund will unlock the the unfinished content for Wrath. Apparently there is yet another "true" final boss.

Makes sense. The new level was supposed to be ridiculously hard and the new last boss isn't that much harder than Satan. He's easier with a lot of builds due to his lack of mobility.

[Nicktals]

I feel like maybe we were supposed to fight Blue Baby, and then the alt of Daddy Long Legs, sequentially, as the final boss. Edmund has said that there was a glitch with the final secret so they removed it, but part of it still remained. I think now we're going to get a totally new ending/boss with this last content expansion.

[Acerac]

Daddy Long legs is only difficult early because your damage is so low. Even his alt forms keel over in seconds once you've built up some damage. He's probably my favorite new boss due to this design, you have to focus him down and ignore adds before he overwhelms you. It's extremely frantic unless you find something ridiculous on the first floor.

Challenges seem to be WAY easier than playing Samson normally I've noticed. Many of them only require you to beat Mom's foot it seems? I can do that in my sleep at this point even without item rooms.

[Joe Molotov]

Beat Isaac with ???. Achievement doesn't pop. Cry. :'(

[awwyeahgurrl]

Beat Isaac with ???. Achievement doesn't pop. Cry. :'(

Tried closing the game and re-launching it. Works for me when something doesn't pop.

[Joe Molotov]

The Steam achievement popped when I did that, but it still doesn't show unlocked in the game in Secrets. Apparently 1.2 has made achievements all glitchy.

[flowsnake]

Blood Lust isn't supposed to show up until you beat the game with Samson, but thanks to a bug it shows up despite this.

Ah, I never had that, I actually managed to beat the game with Samson using one of the broken combos early on.

[Castef]

Is there a way to turn on/turn off the expansion?

[Joe Molotov]

No, once you download it, it's there forever.

[Haunted]

Is there a way to turn on/turn off the expansion?

I don't think so.

McMillen doesn't think of them as separate games. Just one big game, now with more content than before.

The Steam achievement popped when I did that, but it still doesn't show unlocked in the game in Secrets. Apparently 1.2 has made achievements all glitchy.

You'll get it eventually. I went a couple days with my secret counter not increasing even though I unlocked lots. Steam achievements also only register after a restart.

It's an annoying bug, but from my experience, steam and the game sync up eventually. Nothing is lost.

[Davidion]

I love the expansion but the instability of the game is making it unplayable. I was able to finish the game through heaven once and ever since then ever other session has caused my computer to reboot at random times throughout the game.

The straw that really broke the camel's back came during a recent session when I had a max strength/health/fire speed run abruptly crash three rooms into heaven. This has been the bulk of my PC gaming as of late since I've been busy with work/life and a 30-45 min block run in this fits into my schedule well, but not when any progress that I make gets wiped due to bugs.

Utterly annoying...

[Castef]

I don't think so. McMillen doesn't think of them as separate games. Just one big game, now with more content than before.

Oh. :(

That's bad news.

[Incendiary]

Finally beat Satan in Sheol on my second time getting there. Had basically the same set-up as the first time I made it (Habit + Book of Revelations, Harlequin Baby + Lil Steve), just more health/range/damage so the fight was much easier.

This run, I also fought Gurdy Jr and Conquest for the first time. I really geeked out over Conquest because I had no idea he was an addition, and that's freakin' awesome.

[Joe Molotov]

I hate the 3 Dollar Bill, and I get it all the fucking time. That's probably my least favorite new item. The game is random enough without not knowing what my shot is going to do on any given room. It's (usually) not terrible or anything, it's just annoying.