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Originally Posted by rouken: View Post


oh so they really went on to check the games on this list :)

persona for next year?
What could the mystery Persona title be? A remake of Persona 1 that mimics the style of P3 or P4? Persona kid friendly Pokemon type game? 3DS is getting pretty hype - I hope these make it to NA.
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#202

More SMT is always good in my book. So much for my theory that SMT4 would use Persona 5's engine and assets. Though it's a shame that the 3DS isn't more graphically capable.
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#203

I have no interest in this, personally, but it's a good sign for the future of the 3DS, I think.
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#204

Originally Posted by SteeloDMZ: View Post
3DS is perfect for MegaTen games. I love being able to have one screen entirely for stats.
Me too. Just wish it wasn't the 3D screen.

But regarding the actual news: YES. AWESOME.
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#205

the day this game comes i buy a 3ds

either that or soul hackers
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#206

The big question in my mind is what kind of visual style we can expect from 4. Really looking forward to this.
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#207

The only thing I wonder about this is if announcing SMT4 kills any chance of them announcing Persona 5 in the summer/fall as they don't want the hype from one to overshadow the other. P5 always seemed like a spring/summer 2013 game, so maybe SMT4 is October/November 2012 and they'll announce P5 in Jan.
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#208

Originally Posted by Eusis: View Post
Now that I think about it, that was confirmed wasn't it?

... Though I'd still wait to see the news pop up, just on the off chance they shifted somewhere along the line.
Persona 5 is like their biggest jewel in the crown at the moment, it'll definitely get the home console treatment - will probably get a Vita version as well (but not simultaneous) while 3DS gets more SMT/Devil survivor games
Kinda like what we saw with PS2/PSP and DS - it seems like a profitable cycle for Atlus
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#209

Originally Posted by shadyspace: View Post
I didn't mean exclusively.
I think Persona 6 (the sequel that comes out two years after P5) will be on Wii U, at least. :P

Anyway, I hope Matador is back!
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#210

Originally Posted by RyougaSaotome: View Post
The big question in my mind is what kind of visual style we can expect from 4. Really looking forward to this.
Call me cynical, but I wouldn't be surprised if it shares assets from Strange Journey on the DS, not the PS2 games
A first person dungeon crawler style wouldn't be unwelcome though
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#211

While this is awesome, a console game is so insanely over-do. If there is still no P5 or even a new SMT sub-series for consoles at TGS, I will be moderately upset.
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#212

Originally Posted by RyougaSaotome: View Post
The big question in my mind is what kind of visual style we can expect from 4. Really looking forward to this.
i'll settle for Suzuhito Yasuda
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#213

Originally Posted by stupei: View Post
Me too. Just wish it wasn't the 3D screen.
What's wrong with it being on the 3D screen?
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Originally Posted by Eusis: View Post
Given their ambitions for SMT:N bits (like being able to see a war on the other hand of the Vortex World) you may be right, but the 3DS allows at LEAST an equivalent to SMT:N, if not exceeding due to a better grasp on full 3D development that SMT:N helped kick off in the first place.
That's true. Well, I'm looking forward to hearing more about the game and seeing how big of an improvement it is.
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#215

Originally Posted by Teknoman: View Post
Gotta say i'd like to see Persona 5 looking like Catherine though.
Same here. I barely play my handhelds anyway.
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#216

Originally Posted by stupei: View Post
Me too. Just wish it wasn't the 3D screen.

But regarding the actual news: YES. AWESOME.
It doesnt seem like it will be for Soul Hackers, so it better not be for IV. I need some 3D battle screens.

Originally Posted by Infinite: View Post
What's wrong with it being on the 3D screen?
Why would you want stats on the main 3DS screen? Thats where the action should be UNLESS, it totally depends on the touch screen, and even then i'm sure you could work something out.
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#217

SJ ran on the EO 2 or 3 engine, I would expect SMT4 to run on this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1_F5...ature=youtu.be
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#218

Originally Posted by Green Scar: View Post
I think Persona 6 (the sequel that comes out two years after P5) will be on Wii U, at least. :P

Anyway, I hope Matador is back!
Oh god no..

I still haven't recovered from the last fight ;_;

Took me ages to beat that damn skeleton!
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#219

So not really knowing much about the SMT as a whole, what things could be done on the HD systems that wouldn't be possible on the 3DS, or rather, theoretically, how does a 3DS release affect the structure of the games.
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#220

Originally Posted by Bebpo: View Post
Strange Journey
Devil Survivor
Devil Survivor 2?

Persona is definitely their big focus, but they're still keeping the SMT alive and prospering with their 2ndary teams.
Strange Journey I'll give you, but I was convinced that the low sales of that game would've done more to kill the desire of Atlus to continue"classic Megaten" for good. Glad I'm proven wrong.

And I'll admit I never paid attention to the Survivor series. Should I wait for 2 to get an "Overclocked" edition, as well, or am I safe? 8D
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Originally Posted by Junie12: View Post
Oh god no..

I still haven't recovered from the last fight ;_;

Took me ages to beat that damn skeleton!
"I swear, by my sword and capote, that I will once again prove victorious!"
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#222

Originally Posted by we.are.the.armada: View Post
What could the mystery Persona title be? A remake of Persona 1 that mimics the style of P3 or P4? Persona kid friendly Pokemon type game? 3DS is getting pretty hype - I hope these make it to NA.
It's probably like my suspicion that they just listed a bunch of their popular stuff at the time. If they were seriously considering all of those at the time then it's likely Persona could've been more of a "what game is best to port?" situation before they realized Soul Hackers was more appealing than either of the first three Persona games. Although a Persona 2 compilation on 3DS would be neat.
Originally Posted by Femmeworth: View Post
More SMT is always good in my book. So much for my theory that SMT4 would use Persona 5's engine and assets. Though it's a shame that the 3DS isn't more graphically capable.
Well, the 3DS is graphically capable ENOUGH that I wonder if they could use the same engine anyway and just made it very scaleable. Though they could also just be using either EO4's or the PS2 MegaTen engine.
Originally Posted by BlazingDarkness: View Post
Persona 5 is like their biggest jewel in the crown at the moment, it'll definitely get the home console treatment - will probably get a Vita version as well (but not simultaneous) while 3DS gets more SMT/Devil survivor games
Kinda like what we saw with PS2/PSP and DS - it seems like a profitable cycle for Atlus
Well, that logic makes sense with western development, but for Japan we've seen stuff like mainline DQ getting its 9th installment on handhelds, so I don't think they share the views on a whole for blatant console superiority. But then I guess Persona is more of their international hit, and could consider being on consoles more important there than for SMT4 with it's smaller-but-dedicated niche.
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#223

Originally Posted by buddha0991: View Post
SJ ran on the EO 2 or 3 engine, I would expect SMT4 to run on this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1_F5...ature=youtu.be
SJ was developed by the same developer who worked on EO1 and 2. EO3 and 4 are both internal Atlus projects. The EO1/2/SJ developer is working on Lost Heroes on 3DS now.
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Originally Posted by Boney: View Post
So not really knowing much about the SMT as a whole, what things could be done on the HD systems that wouldn't be possible on the 3DS, or rather, theoretically, how does a 3DS release affect the structure of the games.
SMTIV: Better With Kinect
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Originally Posted by Boney: View Post
So not really knowing much about the SMT as a whole, what things could be done on the HD systems that wouldn't be possible on the 3DS?
Prettier graphics, basically. Which isn't an unreasonable thing to want.
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Originally Posted by BlazingDarkness: View Post
lol, of course not
He probably meant PS360WiiU you know.

Edit: thread moves too fast!
Last edited by Kandinsky; 05-30-2012 at 12:28 AM.
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#227

Originally Posted by Teknoman: View Post

Why would you want stats on the main 3DS screen? Thats where the action should be UNLESS, it totally depends on the touch screen, and even then i'm sure you could work something out.
I thought he was talking about the game play.
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#228

EO looks very nice, so that's great.
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Originally Posted by NichM: View Post
SMTIV: Better With Kinect
Hey. Hey. Hey.

Stop it.
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#230

Originally Posted by Boney: View Post
So not really knowing much about the SMT as a whole, what things could be done on the HD systems that wouldn't be possible on the 3DS, or rather, theoretically, how does a 3DS release affect the structure of the games.
Bigger environments, SMT games have extremely impressive art design and a bigger scope to the areas would be a postive.


Otherwise, just nice cell-shaded HD graphics. Nothing that really effects the experience other than looking nicer.


3DS should be fine.
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#231

Well shit. I really need a 3ds. I hope kaneko is directing/art directing this. Atlus has been hiding him recently!
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#232

Originally Posted by Boney: View Post
So not really knowing much about the SMT as a whole, what things could be done on the HD systems that wouldn't be possible on the 3DS?
Me either, I don't know.

I'm guessing just graphics, spectacle, and maybe full VO in high quality. Things like DLC or an online component could be done on 3DS right? Achievements and Trophies are on 3DS too right?

Personally, from what I've seen, 3DS is a perfect fit for SMT. I agree with reasons others have posted in here too.
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#233

Originally Posted by TreIII: View Post
And I'll admit I never paid attention to the Survivor series. Should I wait for 2 to get an "Overclocked" edition, as well, or am I safe? 8D
You should play DS1 :)
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#234

I wonder if this is going to be an old school dungeon crawl. I'm not a huge fan of the genre but I've liked the older SMT games. I'm wondering if they'd want to go the SMT3 route on the 3DS though. Hm.
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#235

Originally Posted by Aeana: View Post
I think it's possible that Persona was replaced by Soul Hackers.
too bad for that, i really want to see a persona game on a nintendo console. but i guess they want seperate smt and persona.

still hoping for p5 on wii u :)
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I'm guessing they'll reuse the PS2 demon models they got so much mileage out of.
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Very, very nice. Looking forward to the first screens. Being on the 3DS, I guess it will be a first person game.
Very, very excited for this one. :)
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Originally Posted by Boney: View Post
So not really knowing much about the SMT as a whole, what things could be done on the HD systems that wouldn't be possible on the 3DS, or rather, theoretically, how does a 3DS release affect the structure of the games.
Exponentially increasing budgets comprising the design of the game for mainstream sales and the closure of Atlus when sales aren't met.

But hey, it would have more pixels and shaders and lights, so, it evens out?
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#239

Originally Posted by NichM: View Post
SMTIV: Better With Kinect
Kick the screen in frustration to continue after dying for dumb reason #4507 that you should have known better than doing.
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#240

Originally Posted by NichM: View Post
SMTIV: Better With Kinect
Kinect would make more sense for Persona 5. Per-so-na!
Originally Posted by Eusis: View Post
Well, the 3DS is graphically capable ENOUGH that I wonder if they could use the same engine anyway and just made it very scaleable. Though they could also just be using either EO4's or the PS2 MegaTen engine.
I really don't think Atlus is capable of doing something like that effectively.
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#241

Originally Posted by Femmeworth: View Post
Kinect would make more sense for Persona 5. Per-so-na!
Only if they bring back Evokers.
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Please dont be a 1st person dungeon crawler. As long as its not that, ill get it
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Originally Posted by Femmeworth: View Post
Kinect would make more sense for Persona 5. Per-so-na!
Putting a gun to your face isn't Kinect Family Friendly
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#244

Originally Posted by BlazingDarkness: View Post
Persona 5 is like their biggest jewel in the crown at the moment, it'll definitely get the home console treatment - will probably get a Vita version as well (but not simultaneous) while 3DS gets more SMT/Devil survivor games
Kinda like what we saw with PS2/PSP and DS - it seems like a profitable cycle for Atlus
That doesn't make any sense. The point of the mainline Megaten games is a lot like the Street Fighter franchise. They do all the work for the tough assests (the huge assortment of monsters) and then copy and paste them into other games. This is what Atlus did with the PS2 megaten games.
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#245

I had no intention of buying a 3DS before reading this. Now I will buy one.

Probably my favorite RPG series ever. Nocturne is amazing, so is SMT1.
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Excellent news. Can't wait to see images
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#247

Originally Posted by Green Scar: View Post
Only if they bring back Evokers.
Nah, that would be Persona 6 for Wii U.
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#248

Originally Posted by CSX: View Post
Please dont be a 1st person dungeon crawler. As long as its not that, ill get it
SMT3 was a first-person dungeon crawler with a 3rd person view! Dungeons were all designed really similarly to the older games. It was made more apparent by the first-person option you get in a new cycle.

I'm cool with whatever perspective as long as the dungeon design carries on in a similar style.
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#249

I would be surprised if it wasn't 3rd person since it should be an evolution of SMT3.

Originally Posted by Flying_Phoenix: View Post
That doesn't make any sense. The point of the mainline Megaten games is a lot like the Street Fighter franchise. They do all the work for the tough assests (the huge assortment of monsters) and then copy and paste them into other games. This is what Atlus did with the PS2 megaten games.
And now they'll have two sets giving them options to do console & handheld megaten games with less work.
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#250

Great, now I can demand Persona 5 without SMT fans getting all uppity.