[NawidA]

30. CM Punk – GTS 29. Brock Lesnar – F-5

Either the GTS is ranked too high or the F5 is ranked way too low.

The F5 was a finisher that defined Brock, the GTS is a weak point of Punk's moveset.

[A Pretty Panda]

Yeah it's strange they haven't done that yet. They don't skip weeks right? There's always 52 eps a year.

Maybe we'll get it when Vince McMahon dies and his idiotic daughter and DOOFUS son-in-law take over.

[Perspicacity]

Switch the SCM with the tombstone and that's a great top 5 finisher list.

Oh hell no. The Tombstone was never kicked out of for most of his career.
Now if you said that SCM---- should have been in the place of the Pedigree then yes you would be absolutely correct, but then the Pedigree would still be criminally high.

[sf2fanatic]

Soulplaya do you seek out random threads in the OT that mention wrestling to post Kane in?

I smell alittle

iness


<---As I come from the backstage and interfering...lol

[Mr. Enigma]

We are REALLY fucking spoiler tagging the placement of WWE-ranked finishing moves?

[DMczaf]

...I just realized we are spoiler tagging the placement of WWE-ranked finishing moves.

[HarryDemeanor]

...I just realized we are spoiler tagging the placement of WWE-ranked finishing moves.

Don't want to spoil it for those who are going to buy the DVD/Blu-ray!

[tm24]

If anyone wants to read up on the new Mistico thing, luchaworld has some great thoughts about it

http://www.luchaworld.com/?p=15656

Also, if you thought Cena going to any smart city was rough, the Arena Mexico crowd will be rougher and threw stuff in the ring when this guy comes out. I cant wait

[sf2fanatic]

Talking about finishers



http://youtu.be/9I4z6ieaYsY

Sorry if posted but WOW!!!

[NihonTiger90]

Talking about finishers http://youtu.be/9I4z6ieaYsY Sorry if posted but WOW!!!

Everytime I see someone drop Misawa on his head, I feel really bad knowing what happened. :(

[Plywood]

Either the GTS is ranked too high or the F5 is ranked way too low. The F5 was a finisher that defined Brock, the GTS is a weak point of Punk's moveset.

His flying elbow seems more dangerous than his lazy knee to skull.

[bangai-o]

Also, if you thought Cena going to any smart city was rough, the Arena Mexico crowd will be rougher and threw stuff in the ring when this guy comes out. I cant wait

Mexico loves Cena. you crazy

[tm24]

Mexico loves Cena. you crazy

I was referring to Not Mistico

[bean breath]

Why isn't there a Vince McMahon/WWF biopic? I'll take anything, a tv show, a comic book. Change the names if you have to.

[SoulPlaya]

I smell alittle iness <---As I come from the backstage and interfering...lol

Nah, Panda just wanted to help, and join in the fun, lol.

[bangai-o]

I was referring to Not Mistico

oh.
has Raw been live in Mexico City this year yet?

[Plywood]

If anyone wants to read up on the new Mistico thing, luchaworld has some great thoughts about it http://www.luchaworld.com/?p=15656 Also, if you thought Cena going to any smart city was rough, the Arena Mexico crowd will be rougher and threw stuff in the ring when this guy comes out. I cant wait

Guy should not have accepted the role, sounds like a disaster clearly in the making.

[SoulPlaya]

Why isn't there a Vince McMahon/WWF biopic? I'll take anything, a tv show, a comic book. Change the names if you have to.

You know what I want? A Vince/WWF biopic where everyone is played by a different fruit or animal. After Kane banana, we can have Vince McClam, Big Shoe, and The Rock (played by an actual rock).

[tm24]

oh. has Raw been live in Mexico City this year yet?

It was taped. It will probably never be live.

[bean breath]

oh. has Raw been live in Mexico City this year yet?

Not this year but last year Triple H was deported from Mexico on Raw.

[bean breath]

You know what I want? A Vince/WWF biopic where everyone is played by a different fruit or animal. After Kane banana, we can have Vince McClam, Big Shoe, and The Rock (played by an actual rock).

I just want some type of narrative work that goes behind the curtain and shows how wrestling actually works. I don't care if it's a drama or comedy. Does something like this exist aside from shoot interviews and autobiographies?

[Aiii]

Raw had its second straight strong rating on 6/18, doing a 3.40 rating and 4.97 million viewers, the best rating the show has done since the day after WrestleMania. The show opened strong so there was interest coming off the PPV regarding the firing stipulation. But it also had a big peak for the HHH/Paul Heyman segment, and the final segment with the “final appearance” of John Laurinaitis. The show placed third for the night on cable. The show did a 3.1 among teenage boys, the highest in a long time (up 15%), 3.0 among Males 18-49 (up 11%), 1.3 among teenage girls (up 44%) and 1.2 among women 18-49 (down 8%). The viewership was 68.9% men. In the segment-by-segment, Sheamus & C.M. Punk vs. Daniel Bryan & Kane lost 241,000 viewers. Jack Swagger vs. Dolph Ziggler lost 22,000 viewers. The Paul Heyman/HHH in-ring gained 559,000 viewers and a show high 3.74 quarter. Alberto Del Rio vs. Santino Marella lost 711,000 viewers. The segment with Cyndi Lauper, Wendi Richter, Heath Slater and Roddy Piper lost 12,000 viewers. I expected that segment to do well, a little because of Piper (not because of Lauper because it’s been a long time since she’s been a big deal) and a little because of the train wreck philosophy of ratings. John Cena vs. David Otunga & John Laurinaitis in the overrun segment gained 573,000 viewers to a 3.74 quarter. As far as main event growth, for Teenage boys it was up from 3.3 to 3.5, Men 18-49 from 2.9 to 3.5, Teenage girls from 1.2 to 1.7 and 18-49 women from 1.3 to 1.5.

So here's what I've noticed over the past year of seeing this play by play shit. There's a large number of viewers, about 700k-800k that only check in for John Cena. They tune in at the beginning of the show, the top of the first hour and then the end and overrun. Why? Because those three times are the only times you'll see John Cena on the show (bar some 1 minute backstage segments). Other times, they simply don't watch or care about the product. They don't buy the merc, probably won't visit a WWE show (maybe once in their lives, then notice it's not 3 hours of John Cena and not return).

WWE knows this too, it's why their main events are always John Cena. But will this mean they care about Punk/Bryan/AJ and Kane losing only 240.000 of those 700-800k people? Probably not. Del Rio pretty much lost the whole bunch of them, so it probably means something for him. Overall, the storyline helped Raw increase in ratings, as there's now more people tuning in then there were 3/4 weeks ago. In fact, the ratings these past two weeks have been above average, so that's probably good news for these four.

[SoulPlaya]

I just want some type of narrative work that goes behind the curtain and shows how wrestling actually works. I don't care if it's a drama or comedy. Does something like this exist aside from shoot interviews and autobiographies?

Beyond the Mat is the closest thing that I've seen. There was also that ESPN segment that was OK.

You know what? The closest thing you'll get is Vince & Stephanie McMahon's testimony before a Congressional committee after the Benoit stuff. There's a transcript of it on Drudge, I believe. They go very in depth (more so than anything I've ever seen) on how the company works.

[SoulPlaya]

Here it is. 122 pages worth. A lot of it is on steroids (they grill him hard on it).

Enjoy.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/33253381/V...xman-committee

[sf2fanatic]

Nah, Panda just wanted to help, and join in the fun, lol.

Like I said just interfering a match or segment..lol

[Mr. Enigma]

Here it is. 122 pages worth. A lot of it is on steroids (they grill him hard on it). Enjoy. http://www.scribd.com/doc/33253381/V...xman-committee

Jerry McDevitt comes off as a hilarious troll in that whole thing.

[FyreWulff]

http://www.wwe.com/events/wwepresent...orldtour-omaha

Damnit, I'm going to not be in Omaha when this gets around :(

[bean breath]

Here it is. 122 pages worth. A lot of it is on steroids (they grill him hard on it). Enjoy. http://www.scribd.com/doc/33253381/V...xman-committee

LOL, i got through a few pages. I guess I just have to make a Vince McMahon biopic myself.



The 100th episode of The Art of Wrestling is hosted by CM Punk with Colt Cabana as the guest:

http://tsmradio.com/coltcabana/2012/...ed-by-cm-punk/

[Perspicacity]

The 100th episode of The Art of Wrestling is hosted by CM Punk with Colt Cabana as the guest: http://tsmradio.com/coltcabana/2012/...ed-by-cm-punk/

Was just about to post this, I'm about 20 minutes in and it's pretty gold so far.

Matt Classic vs Cena would be awesome.

[bangai-o]

So here's what I've noticed over the past year of seeing this play by play shit. There's a large number of viewers, about 700k-800k that only check in for John Cena. They tune in at the beginning of the show, the top of the first hour and then the end and overrun. Why? Because those three times are the only times you'll see John Cena on the show (bar some 1 minute backstage segments). Other times, they simply don't watch or care about the product. They don't buy the merc, probably won't visit a WWE show (maybe once in their lives, then notice it's not 3 hours of John Cena and not return). WWE knows this too, it's why their main events are always John Cena. But will this mean they care about Punk/Bryan/AJ and Kane losing only 240.000 of those 700-800k people? Probably not. Del Rio pretty much lost the whole bunch of them, so it probably means something for him. Overall, the storyline helped Raw increase in ratings, as there's now more people tuning in then there were 3/4 weeks ago. In fact, the ratings these past two weeks have been above average, so that's probably good news for these four.

no sure about that theory. the only wrestling shirts i ever see in public are Cena. so they do buy the merch. Wally World probably sells more dvds if Cena is on the cover.
it just doesnt seem like the market is able to grow. to me its like Cena is acting as the gateway to gain new audience. but for some reason they dont want to stick around for the rest of the show.
also
i thought everybody in the thread that monday was saying stuff like "guess ill watch Raw since there is not basketball or hockey..." or whatver the heck they watch. there was nothing on tv so ratings for Raw spiked.

i dont know. this s the first time i ever tried to decipher the raw ratings.

[Aiii]

I don't think these 700-800k of casual viewers buy the merc. That doesn't mean there are no Cena-fans that watch the entire show that DO buy loads of merchandise. Probably more then anyone.

But the viewers that drop in and out are not amongst them I'd reckon.

[Seraphis Cain]

Tajiri wants Waaaffle Houuuse

(I know it's already been posted here before, but hey, it's funny!)

[funkystudent]

just over 1 week left to reach 20,000 posts.


I think we might just scrape by. At least I think we will reach the 18,000 mark.

If something big happens next week then we should reach it.


#powerofjune #20,000posts

[Khrno]

especially since the past 6 months of ratings have shown us that Daniel Bryan fans don't actually exist.

I woke up today just to find out that I don't exist.

What a sad day this is, what am I supposed to do now? Someone hold me.

[Professor Beef]

Vince McMahon is your Power of June. You asked for something big, and bah gawd you got it.

[Aiii]

Actually, during Bryan's main event run, both Smackdown and Raw have increased in ratings.

Coincidence?

[Keyser Soze]

Vince McMahon is your Power of June. You asked for something big, and bah gawd you got it.

I never asked for this

[Mr. Enigma]

When was the last time a CM Punk match gained viewers?

[Khrno]

When was the last time a CM Punk match gained viewers?

[Khrno]

Actually, during Bryan's main event run, both Smackdown and Raw have increased in ratings. Coincidence?

The segments were he has been in (and AJ, Punk, Kane) might not be gaining viewers, but the decrease seems to be less everytime. People are starting slowly to get into these guys.

[Alex Anderson]

Jake's DDT should be #1 on that list, at least it's not too low

[Nocturnowl]

Well this thread sure went places after I left, except Beef being Beef with his Raw Quality trolling. To lighten the mood let me regale you all with the random as hell dream I had last night that is tangibly wrestling related.

Okay so i'm at a small train station, in fact it's my local one and somehow it now has three platforms in a dead end formation, i'm on one with D Bryne, CM Punk is on another and Evan Bourne and RYBACK were on the remaining platform.
Now here's where things get really weird, Evan Bourne being the idiot he is decides to jump down on the third rail because he's a daredevil high flying nutjob, instead of getting bolted to the next century nothing happens, as me and my fellow Vegan are perplexed by this chain of events Bourne somehow unscrews a piece of the rail and lobs it up on the platform.
And this is when things that a shocking twist, for reasons unknown Ryback has a Sword resting next to him (in fact it was the Monado from Xenoblade just to make the scene look even more mismatched), the chunk of rail hits is charging it up with electricity, science has no place in here it seems.
So now with a charged up sword Ryback does the logical thing and picks it up, swiftly dashes across the track to Punk's platform and cleanly slices him in half with No More Heroes style blood rain taking place.
Now me and Bryan are bricking ourselves and rightfully so, Ryback basically teleports over and jobs us out with brutal murderous sword slices.

And yeah that was the dream, i'm challenging Beef's title of weirdest wrestling related dream, not sure it tops his though, being chased by Nash and Hall in a car for stealing their spot. The lesson here is you job to Ryback even in your dreams.

[Keyser Soze]

Has WWE used the Inception horn thing in any of there video promos yet... cause I hear it EVERY ELSE

[Khrno]

Well this thread sure went places after I left, except Beef being Beef with his Raw Quality trolling. To lighten the mood let me regale you all with the random as hell dream I had last night that is tangibly wrestling related. Okay so i'm at a small train station, in fact it's my local one and somehow it now has three platforms in a dead end formation, i'm on one with D Bryne, CM Punk is on another and Evan Bourne and RYBACK were on the remaining platform. Now here's where things get really weird, Evan Bourne being the idiot he is decides to jump down on the third rail because he's a daredevil high flying nutjob, instead of getting bolted to the next century nothing happens, as me and my fellow Vegan are perplexed by this chain of events Bourne somehow unscrews a piece of the rail and lobs it up on the platform. And this is when things that a shocking twist, for reasons unknown Ryback has a Sword resting next to him (in fact it was the Monado from Xenoblade just to make the scene look even more mismatched), the chunk of rail hits is charging it up with electricity, science has no place in here it seems. So now with a charged up sword Ryback does the logical thing and picks it up, swiftly dashes across the track to Punk's platform and cleanly slices him in half with No More Heroes style blood rain taking place. Now me and Bryan are bricking ourselves and rightfully so, Ryback basically teleports over and jobs us out with brutal murderous sword slices. And yeah that was the dream, i'm challenging Beef's title of weirdest wrestling related dream, not sure it tops his though, being chased by Nash and Hall in a car for stealing their spot. The lesson here is you job to Ryback even in your dreams.

[Nocturnowl]

I assure you i'm perfectly sane, ain't that right little Jimmy?

[Keyser Soze]

July Wrasslin |OT| Speaking in GIFS

[Linkified]

July Wrasslin |OT| #WeDigCrazyChicks, #Demons, #Dragons and #Chumps

[Khrno]

July Wrasslin |OT| Speaking in GIFS

[funkystudent]

July Wrasslin |OT| Kissing babies, hugging fat girls and boning anything with a pulse.

And the OP is just johncena.jpeg.

[Nocturnowl]

Cena makes wishes for kids and women, what a hero.