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(05-31-2012, 07:28 AM)

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Iron Patriot (of sorts) in Iron Man 3 #1



Discussed in the MCU thread but I know some people arent checking that..



I say sort of cause he's clearly not gonna be Norman Osborn under that, instead it's Eric Savin, AKA Coldblood. So they're probably doing the Whiplash/Crimon Dynamo mixture thing again.


Too many villains.. but at least I look forward to a Cap cameo by now
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Saw this earlier today. Interesting to say the least, but it just won't be the same without Osborne. I thought Iron Man 3 was going to be based on 'Extremis' though?
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Originally Posted by Barrow Roll: View Post
I thought Iron Man 3 was going to be based on 'Extremis' though?
It's really all over the place by now..

If I put my trust on anyone it's on Shane Black though..
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Originally Posted by Barrow Roll: View Post
Saw this earlier today. Interesting to say the least, but it just won't be the same without Osborne. I thought Iron Man 3 was going to be based on 'Extremis' though?
They're probably going to cram as much shit into this as possible so we get another aggravating mess like the last one =/

I was really disappointed by IM2
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Originally Posted by Barrow Roll: View Post
Saw this earlier today. Interesting to say the least, but it just won't be the same without Osborne. I thought Iron Man 3 was going to be based on 'Extremis' though?
Extremis, but with some Armor Wars.
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Looks lame.
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I want to get into this because I am so confused - that looks so damn awesome! I mean the fact that they are bringing all of these characters from other series. I tried wiki'ing it but it goes right past my head.
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Let's pretend not everyone reads comics or has read them since whenever this shit started(shocking, I know). Who's the Iron Patriot?
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Iron Man and War Machine should be the limit and nobody else should wear a similar suit. :|
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#10

Extremis
mandarin
Iron Patriot.

Let's hope Black and crew are adept at juggling a bunch of plot threads, like Raimi and crew!

Also, Iron Patriot is so dumb!
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I thought Iron Man 3 was suppose to be based on Extremis...I don't know, I'm kind of burned out on the suit thing. Oh well, Shane Black knows how to write a fun tale, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Iron Man 2 did not impress me compared to the first one, so I think they can do a lot to improve 3.
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Originally Posted by NoRéN: View Post
Let's pretend not everyone reads comics or has read them since whenever this shit started(shocking, I know). Who's the Iron Patriot?
http://marvel.wikia.com/Iron_Patriot_Armor
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Why the hell iron patriot? Unless that means the dark avengers are gonna become movie reality....
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Originally Posted by NoRéN: View Post
Let's pretend not everyone reads comics or has read them since whenever this shit started(shocking, I know). Who's the Iron Patriot?
Norman Osburn (green goblin) wore it after marvel's civil war when he was in charge of his version of the Avengers (which were controlled by the government). Had a bunch of villains portraying actual advengers (venom was for spiderman, wolverine's son was for wolverine, et cetera). I think it was called hammer instead of shield...

I'm probably off by a bit, it's been awhile since i've caught up on comics
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Originally Posted by McNei1y: View Post
I want to get into this because I am so confused - that looks so damn awesome! I mean the fact that they are bringing all of these characters from other series. I tried wiki'ing it but it goes right past my head.
Osborn wants to get away from the return of his Green Goblin persona, decides to form his own Avengers, steals stuff from Tony Stark and creates his own armor mixing the extremis design with cap's costume, tries to become a fucked up leader and makes shitty evil plans to fool America into supporting him.
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Originally Posted by NoRéN: View Post
Let's pretend not everyone reads comics or has read them since whenever this shit started(shocking, I know). Who's the Iron Patriot?
Norman Osborn (former Green Goblin from Spider-Man) basically blames a recent alien invasion on Stark, and paints himself as a national hero. He then uses some stolen designs and makes his own Iron Man suit...the Iron Patriot. Blah blah blah. Obviously since the Spider-Man characters belong to Sony Pictures at the moment, it won't be Osborn under there.

I wonder if they are going to have someone step up and try to blame the aftermath of The Avengers on Stark in Iron Man 3. I'm trying not to be overly critical of this production since we know so little about it. But why are they juggling so much? Extremis is a pretty action packed and interesting arch, I don't know why they need to make it overly complicated. In my head I imagined a combination of World's Most Wanted and Extremis for this film
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Originally Posted by NoRéN: View Post
Let's pretend not everyone reads comics or has read them since whenever this shit started(shocking, I know). Who's the Iron Patriot?
Iron Patriot is the codename and lifted prototype Iron Man armor that Spider-Man villain Norman Osborn (aka the original Green Goblin) donned when he effectively became the leader of SHIELD a few years ago.

It was an interesting development, and the status quo of the time with Osborn as the de facto leader of the superhero community (which no superhero was actually pleased with at the time) was also known as "Dark Reign." This affected most Marvel books published between 2009-2010. Basically, it boiled down to this psychopath whose biggest claim to fame is still throwing Spider-Man's girlfriend off the George Washington Bridge, pushed into a series of events turning him into the final boss of the Marvel Universe, but genuinely trying to make the world a better place while being a conniving bastard.

The beginning of this starts with the Warren Ellis run of Thunderbolts which has Norman Osborn put in charge of a super team which includes villains Bullseye, Venom and Moonstone, before he leads the Avengers franchise in Brian Michael Bendis's Dark Avengers.

I think blogger Gavok said it best when he called Osborn the Geese Howard of the Marvel Universe.
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So bizarre. The government's attempt to recreate the superior armor after Rhodes goes rogue?
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Originally Posted by Liquidus: View Post
Fan made mock-up. Remember seeing it ages ago (still looks better than these photos mind you)

Im sure the suit will look great with proper lighting
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Looks as good as blurry pics and gives an idea of the final product though.
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Maybe this is a James Bond esque opener. He's defeating yet another Iron Suit before the main villain shows up on the scene.

Or he's the villain's enforcer.
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#23

So the good-hearted but rebellious Stark vs the Patriotic but corrupt Iron Patriot? Could be good.
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#24

My bet based on what we know is that Mandarin (confirmed to be the main villain) somehow gets control of the Iron Man armors and Stark can only regain control using the Extremis. All these villains are just Mandarin's lackeys.
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I am interested in this movie.
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I think this would work better as Detroit Steel rather than Iron Patriot. They could easily tie it in with Mandarin if they introduce a Justine Hammer analogue.

Either way I'd rather not have the climax be yet another fight between armors.
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This is going to pull off another Spider Man 3 isn't it?
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My money is on this being a spoof at the beginning of the movie, somebody trying to imitate Stark and building this thing.

Then Mandarin raises one finger and the Earth implodes.

Or I don't know. Looks awesome.
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Originally Posted by WonkersTHEWatilla: View Post
I think this would work better as Detroit Steel rather than Iron Patriot. They could easily tie it in with Mandarin if they introduce a Justine Hammer analogue.

Either way I'd rather not have the climax be yet another fight between armors.
Well, they haven't confirmed it's Iron Patriot, it's just his armor. Could be Detroit Steel.
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Originally Posted by MarkMclovin: View Post
This is going to pull off another Spider Man 3 isn't it?
Iron Man 2 already did.
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Originally Posted by MarkMclovin: View Post
This is going to pull off another Spider Man 3 isn't it?
Nope. Shane Black motherfucker. Plus, Iron Man 2 would have had to have been the best so far for this to pull a Spider-man 3. This is the redemption movie.
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Originally Posted by Ultima_5: View Post
Norman Osburn (green goblin) wore it after marvel's civil war when he was in charge of his version of the Avengers (which were controlled by the government). Had a bunch of villains portraying actual advengers (venom was for spiderman, wolverine's son was for wolverine, et cetera). I think it was called hammer instead of shield...

I'm probably off by a bit, it's been awhile since i've caught up on comics
Originally Posted by Grizzlyjin: View Post
Norman Osborn (former Green Goblin from Spider-Man) basically blames a recent alien invasion on Stark, and paints himself as a national hero. He then uses some stolen designs and makes his own Iron Man suit...the Iron Patriot. Blah blah blah. Obviously since the Spider-Man characters belong to Sony Pictures at the moment, it won't be Osborn under there.

I wonder if they are going to have someone step up and try to blame the aftermath of The Avengers on Stark in Iron Man 3. I'm trying not to be overly critical of this production since we know so little about it. But why are they juggling so much? Extremis is a pretty action packed and interesting arch, I don't know why they need to make it overly complicated. In my head I imagined a combination of World's Most Wanted and Extremis for this film
Originally Posted by Bowling Pin: View Post
Iron Patriot is the codename and lifted prototype Iron Man armor that Spider-Man villain Norman Osborn (aka the original Green Goblin) donned when he effectively became the leader of SHIELD a few years ago.

It was an interesting development, and the status quo of the time with Osborn as the de facto leader of the superhero community (which no superhero was actually pleased with at the time) was also known as "Dark Reign." This affected most Marvel books published between 2009-2010. Basically, it boiled down to this psychopath whose biggest claim to fame is still throwing Spider-Man's girlfriend off the George Washington Bridge, pushed into a series of events turning him into the final boss of the Marvel Universe, but genuinely trying to make the world a better place while being a conniving bastard.

The beginning of this starts with the Warren Ellis run of Thunderbolts which has Norman Osborn put in charge of a super team which includes villains Bullseye, Venom and Moonstone, before he leads the Avengers franchise in Brian Michael Bendis's Dark Avengers.

I think blogger Gavok said it best when he called Osborn the Geese Howard of the Marvel Universe.
thank you all. Sounds pretty cool if a bit confusing withthe Osborne stuff.
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#33

How mant god damn guys in Iron Man suits can there be in these movies? I knew they blew it with the first movie when there were already two. We're up to like 5 now?
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In two months we'll know everything there is to know about this movie at this rate.
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Wtf they started filming already?

Is that Coldblood for sure? How do we know? Not familiar with the actor they cast.
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Originally Posted by D.Lo: View Post
How mant god damn guys in Iron Man suits can there be in these movies? I knew they blew it with the first movie when there were already two. We're up to like 5 now?
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt: View Post
Wtf they started filming already?

Is that Coldblood for sure? How do we know? Not familiar with the actor they cast.
Well we know that James Badge Dale is playing Eric Savin, and now we have this. I wouldn't expect the Coldblood that we are familiar with. Probably going to be a combination of a bunch of different characters, similar to what they did in Iron Man 2.

James Badge Dale is a good actor. He basically played Robin to Jack Bauer's Batman in 24 Season 3, and I really enjoyed his work in Shame and as the lead of Rubicon.
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Originally Posted by WonkersTHEWatilla: View Post
Extremis
mandarin
Iron Patriot.

Let's hope Black and crew are adept at juggling a bunch of plot threads, like Raimi and crew!

Also, Iron Patriot is so dumb!
Iron Patriot doesnt make sense without Dark Reign(since Osbourne couldnt find a Dark Captain America, he just made a Dark Captain America and Dark Ironman amalgamation.....but hey maybe the script will twist it into making sense.

P.S Right now it looks like trash.....but on set photos almost always do right.
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Originally Posted by D.Lo: View Post
How mant god damn guys in Iron Man suits can there be in these movies? I knew they blew it with the first movie when there were already two. We're up to like 5 now?
He's like the 90s film version of Batman.
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Iron Man 2 already did.
Iron Man is one of those movies I can watch repeatedly and still enjoy. With Iron Man 2, once was enough. It wasn't horrible, just not nearly as enjoyable as the first.
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Originally Posted by RadioHeadAche: View Post
Iron Man is one of those movies I can watch repeatedly and still enjoy. With Iron Man 2, once was enough. It wasn't horrible, just not nearly as enjoyable as the first.
Iron Man 2 is horrible. I saw it once, never again.

I don't have high hopes for this third film. And why do we need a bunch of Iron Man copycats? This shit is getting boring.
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I enjoyed Iron Man 2 well enough.

My problem with 3 is going to be...

Where the hell are the rest of the Avengers when this shit goes down? Are we just suppose to forget about them during this movie or are they going to come up with some sort of bullshit mission that they're all on except for Stark?
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i hope ILM is doing the effects again. i heard the director wanted a different effects studio. would be a real shame after all the great work ilm has done in im 1+2.
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Where the hell are the rest of the Avengers when this shit goes down? Are we just suppose to forget about them during this movie or are they going to come up with some sort of bullshit mission that they're all on except for Stark?
Steve Rogers is in a room crying somewhere and Thor is in a different universe.

Hope we get a Ruffalo Bruce Banner cameo in though- makes the most sense given the ending of the Avengers.
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With so much suits introduced in the first two films, maybe Iron Patriot will appear early in the film. Then, he becomes the hero the citizens adored while Tony gets hated for some reason, then in the end Iron Patriot was the real evil. Too simple but hey I'm not a writer.
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Originally Posted by Volimar: View Post
I enjoyed Iron Man 2 well enough.

My problem with 3 is going to be...

Where the hell are the rest of the Avengers when this shit goes down? Are we just suppose to forget about them during this movie or are they going to come up with some sort of bullshit mission that they're all on except for Stark?
If I remember correctly in Extremis this is actually touched upon. Basically Stark gets his ass kicked by someone infected with the Extremis virus and is asked why he won't call the Avengers. And he tells them that this fight is personal to him, and being able to improve himself and the Iron Man suit. If something goes wrong and lots of lives are in danger, then call Fury. Otherwise, I got this. It fits with Stark's narcissism quite well. Someone like that isn't going to go running for help.

I think people are looking at the film Avengers as a lot more close knit than they actually are. Yeah, they end up coming together to face the alien invasion. But they all go their separate ways at the end. The team comes together for world threatening emergencies, they're more of a standby last resort kinda thing. Otherwise they all handle their own threats and rogues, like before
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Originally Posted by Grizzlyjin: View Post
If I remember correctly in Extremis this is actually touched upon. Basically Stark gets his ass kicked by someone infected with the Extremis virus and is asked why he won't call the Avengers. And he tells them that this fight is personal to him, and being able to improve himself and the Iron Man suit. If something goes wrong and lots of lives are in danger, then call Fury. Otherwise, I got this. It fits with Stark's narcissism quite well. Someone like that isn't going to go running for help.

I think people are looking at the film Avengers as a lot more close knit than they actually are. Yeah, they end up coming together to face the alien invasion. But they all go their separate ways at the end. The team comes together for world threatening emergencies, they're more of a standby last resort kinda thing. Otherwise they all handle their own threats and rogues, like before
I don't think they're close knit (aside from the bromance between Stark and Banner), but I figured that if there were a real threat, the rest of the crew would be wanting to show up whether Stark wanted them there or not. Agree with you about his narcissism as a possible excuse though.
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#48

They still use suits?

I thought by know they were all CGI



edit: oh, wait, just noticed his lack of pants. lol
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Originally Posted by Volimar: View Post
I don't think they're close knit (aside from the bromance between Stark and Banner), but I figured that if there were a real threat, the rest of the crew would be wanting to show up whether Stark wanted them there or not. Agree with you about his narcissism as a possible excuse though.
It makes a lot of sense in the comic because Stark gets his booty spanked publically, and has to acknowledge that the technology that beat him is superior to his suit. One of the major themes you'll notice with modern day Iron Man stories is that Stark is VERY afraid of technology passing him by. Because the day that his suit becomes outdated, is the day he dies. You have every terrorist organization, rogue government and nutjob trying to replicate your design to do harm, so Stark does whatever he can to stay ahead of the curve.

If they play that angle, it will make sense. It also touches on that "What is Iron Man without the suit?" question. He basically gets put on life support by a new type of tech and the only way he can beat it AND keep Iron Man relevant is to experiment with the Extremis virus.
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Originally Posted by Grizzlyjin: View Post
If I remember correctly in Extremis this is actually touched upon. Basically Stark gets his ass kicked by someone infected with the Extremis virus and is asked why he won't call the Avengers. And he tells them that this fight is personal to him, and being able to improve himself and the Iron Man suit. If something goes wrong and lots of lives are in danger, then call Fury. Otherwise, I got this. It fits with Stark's narcissism quite well. Someone like that isn't going to go running for help.

I think people are looking at the film Avengers as a lot more close knit than they actually are. Yeah, they end up coming together to face the alien invasion. But they all go their separate ways at the end. The team comes together for world threatening emergencies, they're more of a standby last resort kinda thing. Otherwise they all handle their own threats and rogues, like before
They also get together for shawarma