NotTheGuyYouKill
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(06-01-2012, 04:57 AM)

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Charisma #1

Not Charisma Carpenter if that's what you thought. I'm talking about that quality, you know, that magnetic quality. Do you think people are just born with it? Do the events in your life make you charismatic? Or can you train yourself to be charismatic? Is it just a matter of being more confident? Or is it something more than that?

If you're thinking I wanna train myself to be more charismatic for public office, not really. I'm just curious. Though being charismatic would help if I ever did decide to go for public office if I found a cause worth going into office for.
JokerOfSpades
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#2

Yes, yes, no, no, yes.
Horse Detective
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When I was a baby, I put 9 points into my Charisma SPECIAL

I think its the environment people are in that contributes to charisma.
The Technomancer
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(06-01-2012, 05:01 AM)

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I think it can be "learned". It depends on what kind of charisma we're talking about though. Leadership charisma is heavily about confidence I would say: being confident enough that other people overcome their own lack of confidence by trusting in you.
Replicant
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(06-01-2012, 05:07 AM)

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You just need to go to Japan and you'll automatically become one*





*NOTE: offer only valid if you're a white guy.
umop_3pisdn
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Charisma doesn't describe an actual trait so much as an effect, there are a lot of ways to have that effect but generally the most potent is going to come from a genuine place. I think it can be cultivated, it's not (just) a problem of imitation, you kind of have to find your own style otherwise it will seem off in some way.

I've been told that I'm disarming often enough, but it's more the "put people at ease" or the "seem interesting" kind of charm than the kind that might be most suited for politics. All I really do is reveal a natural enthusiasm and trust in my social instincts (which comes across as uncalculated), different temperaments probably have a different kinds of 'magnetism'.
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Plywood
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(06-01-2012, 05:21 AM)

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Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
No.
Yes.
Hasardeur
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(06-01-2012, 05:25 AM)

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Originally Posted by Plywood: View Post
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
No.
Yes.
correct
BuddyJoeHooker
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(06-01-2012, 05:33 AM)

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Wishing for Charisma Carpenter News.

Number one way to raise your Charisma Points, Experience.
Crumpet Trumpet
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Just try your best to feel like Sean Combs when you wake up in the morning.
Redux
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Depends what people you're around really, in my past experience.
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I think you get it once you're at max health with super high sex drive.
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I think D&D pretty much had it right, it's an inborn ability - some people just have more of it.
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Of course it's environmental. No one is born being charismatic. Perhaps your father is a really wise cracking guy and you pick up his facial and body patterns that cause everyone around him to laugh and smile, without you even understanding a word he's saying. You pick it up one way or another, and it's usually not that simple, but environmental nonetheless. Just like any other behavior, it's hard to 'train' yourself to respond to something completely differently than you've been doing your whole life. But it isn't impossible to 'learn'.
Hasardeur
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Originally Posted by Sentry: View Post
Of course it's environmental. No one is born being charismatic.
appearance is also charisma
Eschaton
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(06-01-2012, 06:01 AM)

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i think you can build your charisma, to what extent....?
G-Fex
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(06-01-2012, 06:01 AM)

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I'm working on becoming a Charismatic Enigma
jtb
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mix of both. though I've never really liked the word "charisma"... people have too many differing interpretations of charisma for my tastes. I really think that some people are simply born with presence; people notice when they talk, walk into a room, that kind of thing. But if you want to be a convincing speaker, pick up the mannerisms, and all that - it can be trained, no doubt.
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Originally Posted by Hasardeur: View Post
appearance is also charisma
A charismatic person can take advantage of their appearance but their appearance doesn't equate to charisma. Never met an normal looking charismatic person? A good looking awkward person?

It happens.
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Originally Posted by Sentry: View Post
A charismatic person can take advantage of their appearance but their appearance doesn't equate to charisma. Never met an normal looking charismatic person? A good looking awkward person?

It happens.
point taken
Nakazato
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think ppl call it swag now

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ilikeme
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Originally Posted by umop_3pisdn: View Post
Charisma doesn't describe an actual trait so much as an effect, there are a lot of ways to have that effect but generally the most potent is going to come from a genuine place. I think it can be cultivated, it's not (just) a problem of imitation, you kind of have to find your own style otherwise it will seem off in some way.

I've been told that I'm disarming often enough, but it's more the "put people at ease" or the "seem interesting" kind of charm than the kind that might be most suited for politics. All I really do is reveal a natural enthusiasm and trust in my social instincts (which comes across as uncalculated), different temperaments probably have a different kinds of 'magnetism'.
Your posts are always great dude!
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Well that's that. Your first sentence made me realize I'm in the wrong thread.
jaxword
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#24




Edit--Sorry, I thought your thread title said "Candy that you eat while emulating old NES games"
Enco
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Originally Posted by DiscoJer: View Post
I think D&D pretty much had it right, it's an inborn ability - some people just have more of it.
Errr how is it genetic?

There's no charisma gene that's turned on/off...
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Originally Posted by Hasardeur: View Post
appearance is also charisma
You're thinking of original rules D&D.

They broke that shit out as Comeliness in Unearthed Arcana
Kaako
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Two of my female friends said I had charisma. I told them they were full of crap.
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Originally Posted by Sentry: View Post
A charismatic person can take advantage of their appearance but their appearance doesn't equate to charisma. Never met an normal looking charismatic person? A good looking awkward person?

It happens.
There's a reason CHA is a mental stat in DnD.
jaxword
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Originally Posted by Enco: View Post
Errr how is it genetic?

There's no charisma gene that's turned on/off...
There probably is, actually, but more like a combination of genetic factors that give someone a better balance of endorphins and Serotonin and similar regulating hormones. Thus they'd naturally be happier, more stable, and just make people more comfortable as result.
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loooooooove her






Cordelia>Fred.
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Originally Posted by anaron: View Post
loooooooove her






Cordelia>Fred.
Wtf I approve.

Who is this?!
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Meh I usually put the Charisma points in Strength or Endurance. Perception even when making a sniper class.
Busty
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I am charismatic as fuck.

..., I was always the tall, awkward kid at school and I needed to develop to a 'big personality' to make myself stand out. It was also a way of deflecting a lot of the awkward attention I used to get. I didn't want to be the 'tall kid'. So I had to be the 'funny (for want of a better word) kid'. I'm not freakishly tall (6-4) but I was (and am) taller than all my work school mates. And in school all you want to do is fit in. I feel that a lot of this talk of charisma is 'adapt or die'. Without being too melodramatic.

Originally Posted by Kaako: View Post
Two of my female friends said I had charisma. I told them they were full of crap.
Evidently you were right.
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You can learn to be charismatic. A former co-worker of mine could charm the pants off any girl. I was truly in awe at the amount of girls he would land. He could smooth talk his way out of any situation and would get away with shit that would have had me fired in an instant.
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Originally Posted by Log4Girlz: View Post
You can learn to be charismatic. A former co-worker of mine could charm the pants off any girl. I was truly in awe at the amount of girls he would land. He could smooth talk his way out of any situation and would get away with shit that would have had me fired in an instant.
Examples?
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Originally Posted by Log4Girlz: View Post
You can learn to be charismatic. A former co-worker of mine could charm the pants off any girl. I was truly in awe at the amount of girls he would land. He could smooth talk his way out of any situation and would get away with shit that would have had me fired in an instant.
Yes, go on.

Well, what's the difference between being like... the class clown who is confident enough to mess with the teacher, the jock who is confident enough to chat girls up, and the truly charismatic individual? It's not just a measure of confidence you have, it's more than that.

But what is "that"?
Az987
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Drugs and/or mental illness can help.