[-Pyromaniac-]

Sooki's parents being killed by Bill or Eric would be a horrible twist and quite a reach imo.

I could see it being Russel though since he's a crazy ass mofo.

[Carbonox_Ratchet]

What's with the wind magically appearing out of nowhere in Nora's cell right after Roman was staked? Could she be the vessel for Lilith? Something odd was happening to her.

[sangreal]

The black Chancellor is in on it too, right? I mean he killed all the witnesses that said they could identify Salome

[MrHicks]

roman is actually a good guy
he (somewhat) respects humans as the vampire's "ancestors" and all that shit
wants an orderly coexistence with humans

despises slavery,sadism treating humans as livestock

hes a fucking saint and i like the guy
big deal that he has to run things with an iron fist booohoooo

if he really is dead that would suck balls

[diunxx]

I think the entire Authority is in it, they were all pissing themselves when Roman said they found out who the other traitor was.

[sangreal]

I think the entire Authority is in it, they were all pissing themselves when Roman said they found out who the other traitor was.

True, and nobody seemed to flinch when Russel was holding a stake on Roman

[Starsunder]

roman is actually a good guy he (somewhat) respects humans as the vampire's "ancestors" and all that shit wants an orderly coexistence with humans despises slavery,sadism treating humans as livestock hes a fucking saint and i like the guy big deal that he has to run things with an iron fist booohoooo if he really is dead that would suck balls

I agree, Roman was a great addition to the show, and assuming he's dead im sorry to see him go. The show has kept shittier characters around for far longer than what he was allotted.

[RatskyWatsky]

None of them is my guess. It wouldn't make sense storywise anyhow.

I'm also trying to think who could be the vampire that killed Sookie and Jason's parents. I don't know if it would feel anti-climactic if it was Bill, Eric or Russell. They did mention the vampire was a he so we know it's a male.

I don't think so either. But I don't see why they wouldn't have shown his face in the flashback if he was just any random vampire.

I wonder if the masked killers are Hoyt's buddies from work?

Good idea. They've been shown several times this season while eating at Merlotte's, which lends credence to your theory.

Thinking about Terry's plot, I wonder if Holly would be able to help? Isn't she one of the last witches left from the coven?

I don't know...she doesn't seem like a very powerful witch.

The black Chancellor is in on it too, right? I mean he killed all the witnesses that said they could identify Salome

I think the entire Authority is in it, they were all pissing themselves when Roman said they found out who the other traitor was.

I think all of them are in cahoots with Salome.

[ezekial45]

I'm a bit confused on the Vampire age/strength thing. So do vampires become as stronger as they age? As in 3000 year old vampire will always out match a 1000 year old vampire on the physical level.

[Sir Hamish]

I'm a bit confused on the Vampire age/strength thing. So do vampires become as stronger as they age? As in 3000 year old vampire will always out match a 1000 year old vampire on the physical level.

That seems to be the case 99% of the time.

It seems like some stuff like reaction time is roughly the same, so a 1,000 year old vampire could get the drop on a 3,000 year old vampire if the older one wasn't expecting it/paying attention. I think that's what happened in the Season 3 finale when Eric silvered Russel out in the sunshine. They seem like glass cannons, if you get the upper hand it's not incredibly hard to take them out.

[AXavierB]

I'm pretty sure Roman is dead. I wouldn't read too deeply into the fact that he didn't explode straight away like the other vampires. Remember that Godric evaporated into glittery blue flames when exposed to sunlight whereas every other vampire has burned to charcoal.

[Cornballer]

New videos on youtube from HBO:
- Inside the Episode #54
- Episode #55 Preview *please spoiler tag any discussion*

[Clevinger]

What a waste of Meloni.

[KibblesBits]

What a waste of Meloni.

He served his purpose. Now there will be half as much yelling.

[Host Samurai]

Man I would love it if some older vampires can turn into this



Out of curiosity, is Dracula in the TB universe? and is it confirmed that Vlad the Impaler ever confirmed to be a vampire?

[GQman2121]

I'm pretty sure Roman is dead. I wouldn't read too deeply into the fact that he didn't explode straight away like the other vampires. Remember that Godric evaporated into glittery blue flames when exposed to sunlight whereas every other vampire has burned to charcoal.

When Godric died, I recall people assuming that was what happened to the older vamps when they were exposed to the the true death. And then the whole Russell/Eric thing happened and that theory went out the door.

[suzu]

Haha @ Eric glamoring & cockblocking Alcide.

Agreed with everyone about Meloni. I wanted to see more of him.

Still don't care about Terry's or Lafayette's or Alcide's side stories.

[Carbonox_Ratchet]

Now we should also see Nora participate in more scenes as I'd imagine she'll be released. MORE SEXY TIMES PLS.

[Hex]

Haha @ Eric glamoring & cockblocking Alcide. Agreed with everyone about Meloni. I wanted to see more of him. Still don't care about Terry's or Lafayette's or Alcide's side stories.

Lafayette I am all good with and am into his.
Terry, no.
Fucking end that shit.
I do not care if Benjamin Linus has the writers blackmailed to give his wife a storyline, no means no.

[Starsunder]

When Godric died, I recall people assuming that was what happened to the older vamps when they were exposed to the the true death. And then the whole Russell/Eric thing happened and that theory went out the door.

Older vamps do burn faster.

Eric and Russell had Sookies blood in them, rendering them immune temporarily. They then start smoking when, presumably, her blood starts filtering out of their system.

[Frost_Ace]

Meloni don't die on me :(

[SickBoy]

EDIT: By the way, I don't think the show has set the bar super high, but I think this might be the most interesting season for me since the first. None of the subplots or developments seem to be dragging quite as much as they have in other seasons.

I thought they made it look different just for effect - he's a major character so they gave him a 'death moment' before disappearing. I'm pretty sure he's gone.

Will be interesting. Certainly they at least wanted to leave the question open, ending the episode as they did, if he isn't actually dead. Count me in with the people who suspect he may still be around.

Good idea. They've been shown several times this season while eating at Merlotte's, which lends credence to your theory.

I don't think they will be his buddies, because as they pull him into the van, they talk about how they'd heard he'd gotten messed up with fangers or vampires or something... whatever they'd said it didn't seem like they were in regular contact with him.

[dead souls]

This is a surprisingly entertaining season, and the best True Blood has been in years.

[Lactose_Intolerant]

This is a surprisingly entertaining season, and the best True Blood has been in years.

When the main story isn't about Sookie or the town, the show is good entertainment.

[dead souls]

When the main story isn't about Sookie or the town, the show is good entertainment.

Yeah, but even Sookie hasn't been that annoying this year. I loved the drunken singing.

[RatskyWatsky]

This is a surprisingly entertaining season, and the best True Blood has been in years.

I agree, which is why I'm baffled by the reviews/comments that I'm seeing online saying that the show is hopeless and the worst season yet, etc. It's like, what show were they watching last year or the year before? Cause this is way better than that.

[greyshark]

I agree, which is why I'm baffled by the reviews/comments that I'm seeing online saying that the show is hopeless and the worst season yet, etc. It's like, what show were they watching last year or the year before? Cause this is way better than that.

My speculation - the first season set the atmosphere of a somewhat realistic show (at least as realistic as one can be with vampires). But each season after that has gotten more and more fantastic with the introduction of new and strange beings. It's gotten to the point where there are more 'supes' than humans, and it's almost considered strange to not have any powers. From that perspective, I would guess that a fan of the toned-down first season would find this show too ridiculous to relate to.

[KibblesBits]

I agree, which is why I'm baffled by the reviews/comments that I'm seeing online saying that the show is hopeless and the worst season yet, etc. It's like, what show were they watching last year or the year before? Cause this is way better than that.

These people, these reviews aren't representative of the whole viewing audience. People who do speak out are always those who are unhappy. Rarely have I heard an equal amount of raves in comparison to rants for anything. Are there problems? Yes, but it's not going to cause the people complaining to actually stop watching in large numbers.

[teiresias]

I don't think Roman is gone in body. I mean, there was an entire sequence in an earlier episode where he's talking about that special stake he has. Then there's an entire sequence with that vial of supposed Lilith blood. Hypothesis is as someone said before I think, whether Russel is in on the plot or not, Lilith's blood is in some kind of holding chamber in that stake and is being injected into Roman for some reason - hence the weird effect when he should have just burst. That could be completely wrong though.

My speculation - the first season set the atmosphere of a somewhat realistic show (at least as realistic as one can be with vampires). But each season after that has gotten more and more fantastic with the introduction of new and strange beings. It's gotten to the point where there are more 'supes' than humans, and it's almost considered strange to not have any powers. From that perspective, I would guess that a fan of the toned-down first season would find this show too ridiculous to relate to.

I can see that, but anyone that did their research on the novels the series is based on knew there were going to be more and more supes involved in the plot. It was just inevitable.

[RatskyWatsky]

My speculation - the first season set the atmosphere of a somewhat realistic show (at least as realistic as one can be with vampires). But each season after that has gotten more and more fantastic with the introduction of new and strange beings. It's gotten to the point where there are more 'supes' than humans, and it's almost considered strange to not have any powers. From that perspective, I would guess that a fan of the toned-down first season would find this show too ridiculous to relate to.

Right, but has this season really been 'more fantastic' than the past two? The past two seasons have had werewolves, werepanthers, fairies, witches, ghosts, brujo, etc. This season has the Ifrit, but lacks witches (Holly, but it's not like she's out casting spells left and right), werepanthers, and ghosts. This season has the least amount of crazy supernatural stuff since season 2. It's like, if these critics or whoever have been actually watching the show all these years, they should see this. If they watched the first season and then jumped straight to 5, then maybe I could see where they're coming from.

These people, these reviews aren't representative of the whole viewing audience. People who do speak out are always those who are unhappy. Rarely have I heard an equal amount of raves in comparison to rants for anything. Are there problems? Yes, but it's not going to cause the people complaining to actually stop watching in large numbers.

I know. Millions of people tune in to TB each week because they love it, and the critics' opinions aren't in line with popular opinion at all. They don't have to like it, but I expect them to at least acknowledge the improvements, you know?

[greyshark]

Right, but has this season really been 'more fantastic' than the past two? The past two seasons have had werewolves, werepanthers, fairies, witches, ghosts, brujo, etc. This season has the Ifrit, but lacks witches (Holly, but it's not like she's out casting spells left and right), werepanthers, and ghosts. This season has the least amount of crazy supernatural stuff since season 2. It's like, if these critics or whoever have been actually watching the show all these years, they should see this. If they watched the first season and then jumped straight to 5, then maybe I could see where they're coming from.

This season has had less going on than seasons past, but it's still pretty ridiculous. I mean we saw Jesus' head visit Lafayette and his mother, and it wasn't even presented as something THAT shocking. The standard for 'normal' is so far shifted that you can either accept the show for what it is and enjoy it (like you and I have) or just move on.

[KibblesBits]

This season has had less going on than seasons past, but it's still pretty ridiculous. I mean we saw Jesus' head visit Lafayette and his mother, and it wasn't even presented as something THAT shocking. The standard for 'normal' is so far shifted that you can either accept the show for what it is and enjoy it (like you and I have) or just move on.

This is forgetting that there are people out there who watch television shows simply to take them apart and to find every single flaw they possibly can. While that in and of itself isn't exactly terrible the reasons for such behavior can be, especially if people involved in the show come to think that these views must be addressed. These people love to hate-watch shows and will always be present and very vocal and tend to congregate to certain places where they circle jerk and fellate each other constantly. To make matters even more troublesome they tend to be rather unintelligent.

[Zzoram]

I thought they showed Nora as the one to free Russell in Sookie's mind reading. Guess not?

[KibblesBits]

I thought they showed Nora as the one to free Russell in Sookie's mind reading. Guess not?

No face was shown. It was just mentioned it was a female and the Authority necklace was shown.

[Zzoram]

Most if not all of the other Councillors are with Salome I think. Salome and Oenomaus at least, since Oenomaus killed all the witnesses that could identify Salome.

We don't know their ages, but I think Salome is the oldest of them since she's in the Bible. I don't see how Russell fits into the Sanguinista plans since he doesn't give a shit about them and with his age and strength they shouldn't be able to control him either.

I don't get how Lillith fits in either. She's the mythical first vampire? If she's dead, well, the show has never suggested that dead vampires could come back before so that would strange. If she's alive, where has she been all this time?

[GhettoGamer]

I'm a bit confused on the Vampire age/strength thing. So do vampires become as stronger as they age? As in 3000 year old vampire will always out match a 1000 year old vampire on the physical level.

I just think its sloppy writing, Tara handling Jessica like that when she is just a "baby" but 3-4 episodes ago Jessica was choke slamming the Rev everywhere.

[KibblesBits]

You don't need to fall in line with a certain vision of any said group to be looked to with respect by people who make up that group. Russell simply is, but how he lives his life is what makes him appealing to the Sanguinistas.

Now that Roman is gone, I could easily see Russell taking over the Authority yet not really leading it at all. There really wouldn't even need to be a big change at all apart from the direction the Authority heads towards.

Salome will probably still pull strings behind the scenes. Dieter will still have his place as an executor. Kibwe will be the devout military arm. Carolyn will be the snarky obnoxious one. Nora will be the Sanguinist link. And Tina Majorino's character will reveal herself as Lilith. That or still handle the IT stuff while Salome or Nora does.

I just think its sloppy writing, Tara handling Jessica like that when she is just a "baby" but 3-4 episodes ago Jessica was choke slamming the Rev everywhere.

When was Reverend Newlin ever shown to be able to physically handle himself in a fight?

How often has Tara kicked someone's ass in a fight?

When was Jessica ever shown to be a competent fighter? A couple of werewolves don't count. Especially with the falling down and getting hurt bit she pulled. A few sparring lessons from Bill don't make you a great fighter. Neither does simply being at most a year older than a vampire who is constantly fighting and was shown to be a MMA natural.

Tara should have kicked Jessica's ass and she would have continued to if the bar patrons and Pam hadn't stepped in to stop it. Tara has been fighting since the day she was old enough to string sentences together.
Writing that scene any other way would be sloppy writing.

[Zzoram]

I just think its sloppy writing, Tara handling Jessica like that when she is just a "baby" but 3-4 episodes ago Jessica was choke slamming the Rev everywhere.

I think age is only a rough indicator of strength. There is probably some variability for vampires of similar age. Jessica is only like 2 years old by the show's timeline. Tara also had fight club training while Jessica isn't exactly a combat expert.

[Zabka]

Tara was in good shape beforehand and knew how to fight. I'd assume that helped.

[AXavierB]

Yeah, age only affects physical strength. Even in real life it's possible to overpower someone physically stronger if you have greater fighting skill.

[Zzoram]

I kinda hope they can't resurrect Lillith because it would mean they can do a cheap Bill or Eric death only to revive him. I hope the Sanguinistas are just crazier than even Russell.

[Vyse The Legend]

I kinda hope they can't resurrect Lillith because it would mean they can do a cheap Bill or Eric death only to revive him. I hope the Sanguinistas are just crazier than even Russell.

It was already confirmed through interviews that she makes an appearance this season. I don't think anyone said she was dead.

[RatskyWatsky]

I kinda hope they can't resurrect Lillith because it would mean they can do a cheap Bill or Eric death only to revive him. I hope the Sanguinistas are just crazier than even Russell.

That's assuming that Lillith is dead...

[Zzoram]

If Lillith isn't dead why is she even a mythical vampire bible figure? Why isn't she running the Authority? She'd be the oldest vampire and unchallengeable in power.

[RatskyWatsky]

If Lillith isn't dead why is she even a mythical vampire bible figure? Why isn't she running the Authority? She'd be the oldest vampire and unchallengeable in power.

Maybe something happened to her, maybe she's being held for ransom, or maybe she's a hermit?

[Zzoram]

I wonder how old Lillith is. Russell is 3000 years old and Lillith was the first vampire so she's at least older than him. There don't seem to be many old vampires in the world. Godric, Russell, Eric and Salome are the only ones we know of in the 1000+ year old range.

[RatskyWatsky]

I wonder how old Lillith is. Russell is 3000 years old and Lillith was the first vampire so she's at least older than him. There don't seem to be many old vampires in the world. Godric, Russell, Eric and Salome are the only ones we know of in the 1000+ year old range.

How was the first vampire made? It's sort of like a chicken/egg type deal.

[KibblesBits]

How was the first vampire made? It's sort of like a chicken/egg type deal.

I don't know if the show will get into that, but when Lilith shows up... perhaps we'll get an inkling.

[Arment]

How was the first vampire made? It's sort of like a chicken/egg type deal.

It would be great if the stuff Lafayette is going through manages to merge with the vampire lore. Witchcraft and spirits and all that.

In Anne Rice's novels the first vampire is created when some witches summon an evil spirit and it takes a host and uses it to turn others into vampires - the host becoming one as well.

Something like that could easily work in the True Blood universe.

[Zzoram]

Ya maybe witches created the first vampire. Doesn't explain where all the other supes come from though.