[Chichikov]

i disliked how it followed the mold of every alien film where they seem to always invite people inherently dislikable along the voyage, infact other than Idris i dont think i cared for any one of the people on the ship.

I don't think Prometheus followed the Alien mold, at all.

The Aliens films all have a very similar structure -
Sigourney Weaver and a bunch of space dudes (and usually a single space girl) are trapped in an inescapable space facility/thing with Alien(s), which promptly goes to murder almost everyone.

But I guess whether or not you want the movie to follow that mold depends on how much you like the Alien franchise/concept.

[Mr Cola]

I don't think Prometheus followed the Alien mold, at all. The Aliens films all have a very similar structure - Sigourney Weaver and a bunch of space dudes (and usually a single space girl) are trapped in an inescapable space facility/thing with Alien(s), which promptly goes to murder almost everyone. But I guess whether or not you want the movie to follow that mold depends on how much you like the Alien franchise/concept.

I wasnt linking the mold to story structure, that wasnt meant to be a deep comment, its more that im kind of tired of hating everyone who goes on a spaceship because they seem to fit an archetype which is hard to root for.

[Chichikov]

I wasnt linking the mold to story structure, that wasnt meant to be a deep comment, its more that im kind of tired of hating everyone who goes on a spaceship because they seem to fit an archetype which is hard to root for.

I thought the characters in Alien were mostly sympathetic.
I had no problem rooting for them.

I think the issue with Prometheus characters is that they are really poorly written.

[Mr Cola]

I thought the characters in Alien were mostly sympathetic. I had no problem rooting for them. I think the issue with Prometheus characters is that they are really poorly written.

This is probably so, i did not follow the hype for this move and im not a theorist on the alien universe so i went in just to watch the film and the film was fun to watch, i would even watch it again, inspite of the characters. It felt however that the film went out of its way to make every one of its characters unlikable, be it their attitudes to others, their very one dimeninsional plots. Its ironic that the only character i liked and rooted for is the one they spent next to no time on and that was the captain. But i suppose that just remarks to the technical achievment of the film that it can create such characters and still make me want to rewatch it, the plot itself i thought was very fine indeed (again im aware of certain uproar about it but i choose to view this as a singular film).

[Mr Cola]

I will say one more thing, I cannot fathom and it actively makes me shake my head, when I see grown adults, intelligent adults, approach a new species on a planet they have never seen before with the cutesy face. I do not understand any possible thought process that makes them think that could end in positives results. Also to use it as a plot point time and time and time again in sci fi movies is indicative of piss poor character writing. If it was a child, sure i can make that leap, children are stupid and prone to thinking things are cute, but a grown man with a doctorate in something on an alien world who approaches a snake like object which is hissing and believes this on some level to be a puppy dog is an idiot and has no place on that ship.

[Coverly]

What was that Kryptonite looking rock, in the room with the big Engineer statue head and all the jars, for?

I was wondering about this too, does anyone know?

[Speedymanic]

What was that Kryptonite looking rock, in the room with the big Engineer statue head and all the jars, for?

I was wondering about this too, does anyone know?

Non-one knows. It was originally supposed to be one of those bowls from the opening but they changed it for some reason.

[Atruvius]

http://media.libsyn.com/media/skepti...2012-06-30.mp3

Skeptics Guide to the Universe discusses the science of Prometheus. Just listening it and they have lots of criticisms I hadn't even seen in this thread. They really have the knowledge to tackle everything the movie got wrong.

[Chichikov]

http://media.libsyn.com/media/skepti...2012-06-30.mp3 Skeptics Guide to the Universe discusses the science of Prometheus. Just listening it and they have lots of criticisms I hadn't even seen in this thread. They really have the knowledge to tackle everything the movie got wrong.

Did they talk about how you can't carbon date an alien on an alien planet you know nothing about?
no, it didn't bother me all that much, or at all.

[Atruvius]

Did they talk about how you can't carbon date an alien on an alien planet you know nothing about? no, it didn't bother me all that much, or at all.

Yep, the thing goes for over half an hour, haven't listened to it all yet, but they start from the beginning and go through the movie.

[Chichikov]

Yep, the thing goes for over half an hour, haven't listened to it all yet, but they start from the beginning and go through the movie.

Monday's commute it is then!

[jetjevons]

I will say one more thing, I cannot fathom and it actively makes me shake my head, when I see grown adults, intelligent adults, approach a new species on a planet they have never seen before with the cutesy face. I do not understand any possible thought process that makes them think that could end in positives results. Also to use it as a plot point time and time and time again in sci fi movies is indicative of piss poor character writing. If it was a child, sure i can make that leap, children are stupid and prone to thinking things are cute, but a grown man with a doctorate in something on an alien world who approaches a snake like object which is hissing and believes this on some level to be a puppy dog is an idiot and has no place on that ship.

I thought when faced with a hissing cobra you're suppose to maintain eye contact and hold your ground, not run away. Or I could just be making that up. :-)

[WordAssassin]

There were sooooo many A3 scripts, but he could be talking about the script that has (fuzzy memory) the Sulaco returning, Hicks and Newt surviving, Bish being taking by terrorists, and of course, a bunch of Alien shit going down. Here's a great site with a bevy of A3 rejected scripts. Say goodbye to your Friday night.... http://home.online.no/~bhundlan/scripts/alien3/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_3#William_Gibson

Thanks. Holy shit does that sound better than what we got.

I was really pissed that the whole movie Aliens was about saving Newt and then she dies in the first few minutes of Alien 3, off camera. That was such bullshit, it made it feel like all the struggle in Aliens was for nothing. Then the whole rest of the movie was just Alien in a prison instead of on a space ship. God dammit.

And it set up them wanting to find the source of the Xenomorphs at the end, too. So Alien 4 could have been Prometheus instead of Resurrection. (Well, I mean, Prometheus was written as a prequel, but given that Alien 3 set up you could totally do it as a sequel too. A sequel and an origin story.)

Fuck! Now I'm all pissed at how poorly handled this franchise was when it had so much potential. Alien and Aliens were so good and the universe is so interesting. ;__;

[Nappuccino]

Thanks. Holy shit does that sound better than what we got. I was really pissed that the whole movie Aliens was about saving Newt and then she dies in the first few minutes of Alien 3, off camera. That was such bullshit, it made it feel like all the struggle in Aliens was for nothing. Then the whole rest of the movie was just Alien in a prison instead of on a space ship. God dammit. And it set up them wanting to find the source of the Xenomorphs at the end, too. So Alien 4 could have been Prometheus instead of Resurrection. (Well, I mean, Prometheus was written as a prequel, but given that Alien 3 set up you could totally do it as a sequel too. A sequel and an origin story.) Fuck! Now I'm all pissed at how poorly handled this franchise was when it had so much potential. Alien and Aliens were so good and the universe is so interesting. ;__;

That is kinda the point of Alien 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

[Speedymanic]

Newt should died in Aliens. That hack Cameron lacked the halls to do it.

[parrotbeak]

Finally saw it last night, and I'm glad this thread is so filled with confused ideas. I'll go through and read but my thoughts without having read any reviews or discussion:

The motivations for the characters were not defined but they acted interesting enough so it didn't bother me.

Theron reminded me of her character Rita from Arrested Development in certain moments, like when she was talking alone to her father and to the android.

I don't think this had anything to do with Alien. I just took it as a separate movie set in the same world with the same creatures. It obviously implies that the alien creature is some bioweapon created by these Engineers or whatever they are called, but these guys are/were doing this shit all over the universe and it's way bigger than Earth and Ripley's story. I think Stringer Bell was right; not going to find any answers from these guys. They're probably like us with individual motivations but not necessarily in control of their mission. Probably just doing their jobs.

My friend had an interesting idea: maybe the alien species itself is somehow "controlling" the engineers as part of how they spread their species. Not consciously, but maybe through chemical influence the way some parasites control insects. This would give some "motive" to populating planets with food species and then later bringing the aliens.

The most jarring line for me what "trick the nervous system into thinking it's still alive." What? And then the head scene made us laugh out loud. After that I was fine with whatever.

Also the scene where the android gets some of that organic shit on his finger tip, then touches the glass to give the scientist the wine. I got that he touched the inside of the glass with his infected finger the first time. No need to dumb it down and have him stir his finger in the wine itself right in front of the scientist.

All in all, very entertaining movie and will watch again. I wouldn't mind a 30 minute extended cut to help explain some things.

[Vinci]

http://media.libsyn.com/media/skepti...2012-06-30.mp3 Skeptics Guide to the Universe discusses the science of Prometheus. Just listening it and they have lots of criticisms I hadn't even seen in this thread. They really have the knowledge to tackle everything the movie got wrong.

I had surprisingly never heard of this podcast and would like to thank you for linking to it. They're actually awesome to listen to.

[Gorillaz]

Finally saw it last night, and I'm glad this thread is so filled with confused ideas. I'll go through and read but my thoughts without having read any reviews or discussion: The motivations for the characters were not defined but they acted interesting enough so it didn't bother me. Theron reminded me of her character Rita from Arrested Development in certain moments, like when she was talking alone to her father and to the android. I don't think this had anything to do with Alien. I just took it as a separate movie set in the same world with the same creatures. It obviously implies that the alien creature is some bioweapon created by these Engineers or whatever they are called, but these guys are/were doing this shit all over the universe and it's way bigger than Earth and Ripley's story. I think Stringer Bell was right; not going to find any answers from these guys. They're probably like us with individual motivations but not necessarily in control of their mission. Probably just doing their jobs. My friend had an interesting idea: maybe the alien species itself is somehow "controlling" the engineers as part of how they spread their species. Not consciously, but maybe through chemical influence the way some parasites control insects. This would give some "motive" to populating planets with food species and then later bringing the aliens. The most jarring line for me what "trick the nervous system into thinking it's still alive." What? And then the head scene made us laugh out loud. After that I was fine with whatever. Also the scene where the android gets some of that organic shit on his finger tip, then touches the glass to give the scientist the wine. I got that he touched the inside of the glass with his infected finger the first time. No need to dumb it down and have him stir his finger in the wine itself right in front of the scientist. All in all, very entertaining movie and will watch again. I wouldn't mind a 30 minute extended cut to help explain some things.

Gotta agree with this, I love prometheus despite the fact it had some holes in it's storyline. It was still worth watching. Idk bout full price cause im broke, but definitely again in the near future.

[SquiddyCracker]

http://media.libsyn.com/media/skepti...2012-06-30.mp3 Skeptics Guide to the Universe discusses the science of Prometheus. Just listening it and they have lots of criticisms I hadn't even seen in this thread. They really have the knowledge to tackle everything the movie got wrong.

Loved this!

[Unknown Soldier]

Finally saw the movie.

It was a confused mess almost right from the beginning, with the opening scene which doesn't make any sense even after the movie is over. It feels like a mishmash of ideas which didn't completely fit together, purposely made more obscure and confusing by the creator of Lost for no apparent reason, and a tenuous connection to Alien thrown in for even less apparent reason than none.

Sure, it was pretty. But for all the hype the story was dumber than a bag of rocks and filled with senseless pseudo-mythology building that would make Chris Carter proud. It should come as no surprise that this movie had Alien Black Oil just like The X-Files, because it made just about as much sense.

Oh right, ROFL at the spaceship which weighs 194,276,375,144 tons falling down and somehow being wedged up by a rock so the main character survives.

[Madao]

i watched Prometheus today and liked it quite a bit.

i'll need to watch it side by side along the alien movies to rank it but i like it so far. sure, some things weren't polished as they could be (crew development and stuff) but the numerous elements that connect it with Alien were a treat to see. the end of it was pretty awesome and going in full-blackout mode totally paid off (i hadn't seen absoultely anything about the movie since it was confirmed in production just to see everything in the movie).
the setup for the sequel has me anticipating it already (and scared that something goes bad and it doesn't get made)

btw, is the scene that was making people faint at cinemas the one where the alien is taken out of Elizabeth's(that's the name, right?) belly? i can see why it causes that heh.

[WordAssassin]

Just read up on more of the unused Alien 3/4 scripts, and fucking hell. Literally every single one of them sounds better than what we actually got. Even the Wooden Planet one, which is pretty similar (since they lifted most of it for the actual movie) sounds cool.

But damn, knowing there could have been several different breeds of Xenomorphs in the movie (Spike Xeno, Chameleon Xeno, etc) or even more animal-like Xeno-hybrids with that virus idea (dog Xeno, chicken Xeno, computer space-station Xeno) and then winding up with just one, is so unfair. Especially since it looks like they won't really make anymore Alien movies, even if they do make a Prometheus 2. Plus it's not like there's really a chance for Xenomorphs in that.

[PantherLotus]

Just saw it yesterday.

Points/Questions:

1. I think the film stands on its own and didn't necessarily need the Alien reference.

2. What was David's motivation to poison Holloway? / Why was David so malicious to Dr. Shaw? ("just like your father died, hmm? Ebola?")

3. How did David know there were other ships?

4. What's the deal with cutesy/wootsy snake scene? Criticism above nailed it.

5. How did the thing in her belly continue to grow after she had it removed?

6. Was Ms. Vickers an android after all? I know she called Weyland father and everything, but why did David call her mum?


Even with some pretty gaping holes and easily misunderstood references, I thought the film was excellent and fun. Several scenes made me roll my eyes, but I thought others were quite profound.

[SquiddyCracker]

Just saw it yesterday. Points/Questions: 1. I think the film stands on its own and didn't necessarily need the Alien reference. 2. What was David's motivation to poison Holloway? / Why was David so malicious to Dr. Shaw? ("just like your father died, hmm? Ebola?")

I think David despised the people on the ship. He loves the idealized, non-real humans in fiction, but as soon as he interacts with the people on the ship he is treated with disrespect, scorn, and outright hate.

[PantherLotus]

A buddy of mine linked me to this commentary of the film yesterday: http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html I feel it does a lot to explain some of the very poorly conveyed messages that I think Ridley Scott tried to get across with the movie. I'm not sure if I agree with everything the author said, but a good deal of it is spot on.

Whoa this is outstanding!

[Blader5489]

6. Was Ms. Vickers an android after all? I know she called Weyland father and everything, but why did David call her mum?

He's saying "ma'am," the pronunciation just sounds like mum.

[JB1981]

Just read up on more of the unused Alien 3/4 scripts, and fucking hell. Literally every single one of them sounds better than what we actually got. Even the Wooden Planet one, which is pretty similar (since they lifted most of it for the actual movie) sounds cool. But damn, knowing there could have been several different breeds of Xenomorphs in the movie (Spike Xeno, Chameleon Xeno, etc) or even more animal-like Xeno-hybrids with that virus idea (dog Xeno, chicken Xeno, computer space-station Xeno) and then winding up with just one, is so unfair. Especially since it looks like they won't really make anymore Alien movies, even if they do make a Prometheus 2. Plus it's not like there's really a chance for Xenomorphs in that.

In fairness to Fincher the effects/design team didn't seem to do justice to what he wanted. He wanted a panther-like Xeno, much faster, leaner and agile than the ones in the first two. Geiger's designs were awesome looking and what we got in the movie didn't really live up to them.

[GhaleonEB]

Just saw it yesterday. Points/Questions: 1. I think the film stands on its own and didn't necessarily need the Alien reference. 2. What was David's motivation to poison Holloway? / Why was David so malicious to Dr. Shaw? ("just like your father died, hmm? Ebola?") 3. How did David know there were other ships? 4. What's the deal with cutesy/wootsy snake scene? Criticism above nailed it. 5. How did the thing in her belly continue to grow after she had it removed? 6. Was Ms. Vickers an android after all? I know she called Weyland father and everything, but why did David call her mum? Even with some pretty gaping holes and easily misunderstood references, I thought the film was excellent and fun. Several scenes made me roll my eyes, but I thought others were quite profound.

Here's what I think they were going for there. The biologist sits down and tries to befriend a clearly hostile guy in Fifield, and keeps it up after having been told to stay away. Then he tries to make cute with a clearly hostile alien snake thingy. I think they were setting him up as this guy who has terrible judgment and it's a wonder he lived to be as old as he was. I don't think it worked, but that seems like the idea.

The scene would be so much scarier had they recognized the things as a threat and tried to get away and failed. Stupidity is such a tiresome plot device. :\

[parrotbeak]

I just watched the 2003 dc of Alien. I agree with the Half in the Bag review. Alien actually had some of the problems that people are having with Prometheus, but it was a much simpler story and the characters behaved more like real people.

But you could go through and find issues with it. To mimic the HitB Prometheus spoilers section:

Why did a massive ship carrying ore only have 7 crew members? Why would a company clearly set up for profit risk a full cargo ship on this mission? Why did the first guy stick his head in the egg pod? Where did the mass come from when the alien morphed from chest burster to full grown? Where did the mass for the stuff the captain was encapsulated in come from? Why would a ship like that have a self destruct procedure that could be set in motion by a single person in a couple of minutes? Why would Ripley wander around the ship looking for the cat by herself after most of the crew had been killed? Why didn't the alien kill the cat? How did the alien know to go into the escape pod?

But there are way more unanswered questions and unclear motives in Prometheus and I can see why people are disappointed. You definitely need to shut part of your brain off and just enjoy it, but it also seems complex so it invites you to speculate, when really, I think it's probably not worth looking for answers.

[Erigu]

The biologist sits down and tries to befriend a clearly hostile guy in Fifield, and keeps it up after having been told to stay away. Then he tries to make cute with a clearly hostile alien snake thingy. I think they were setting him up as this guy who has terrible judgment and it's a wonder he lived to be as old as he was.

You could say that biologist finally won...

*sunglasses*

... his Darwin Award.

[Brera]

I expected this film to be an epic to end all epics.

Kingdom of Heaven in space.

Such a let down but still fun is the best way to describe it.

[GhaleonEB]

You could say that biologist finally won... *sunglasses* ... his Darwin Award.

Yup. :lol

I just watched the 2003 dc of Alien. I agree with the Half in the Bag review. Alien actually had some of the problems that people are having with Prometheus, but it was a much simpler story and the characters behaved more like real people. But you could go through and find issues with it. To mimic the HitB Prometheus spoilers section:

I share some of these questions, but some of them do have answers.

Why did a massive ship carrying ore only have 7 crew members?

They were basically a tug boat, not the full mining crew. They were just taking a shipment home.

Why would a company clearly set up for profit risk a full cargo ship on this mission?

I've always had issues with this as well. That said, I think they heard the beacon coming from that region and decided to retrieve it asap. But yeah, wouldn't it be better to send a crew with that specific purpose? In the film the company is said to have a weapons division. Send those guys.

Why did the first guy stick his head in the egg pod?

He didn't stick his head in, he looked inside from a foot or so above the egg. The contents of eggs don't typically leap out at people.

Where did the mass come from when the alien morphed from chest burster to full grown? Where did the mass for the stuff the captain was encapsulated in come from?

From a scene cut from the script, alas. It broke into the food storage. In the film, it's something that's always bugged me as well. When I was younger I imagined the tubes on its back sucking in air and converting what it collects into biomass, somehow. Dunno.

Why would a ship like that have a self destruct procedure that could be set in motion by a single person in a couple of minutes?

To be fair, it also had a fail safe that would allow it to be turned off if someone tried to blow the ship up.

Why would Ripley wander around the ship looking for the cat by herself after most of the crew had been killed?

Because she liked the cat more than people. She's the only person in the film shown petting the cat and holding him, and had a bad relationship with everyone else on the crew sans Dallas. But yeah, film cliche.

Why didn't the alien kill the cat?

It wasn't a threat, and wasn't a suitable host.

How did the alien know to go into the escape pod?

It was fleeing the loud noises and steam jets in the rest of the ship - the escape pod was the only quiet place it could find.

[darthbob]

I share some of these questions, but some of them do have answers.

The way you describe the alien reminds me of a cat.

[oatmeal]

The way you describe the alien reminds me of a cat.

It WAS puma-like in Aliens 3.

[Speedymanic]

regarding Weyland's company spending all that money, I thought it was pretty obvious that Weyland himself forced it through in the hopes of finding the key to living forever.

Vickers says as much when she's talking to her dad.

That and he also seems to be a dictator type character within the company, wouldn't be surprised if he ignored all the protests and just went ahead with the mission.

[parrotbeak]

He didn't stick his head in, he looked inside from a foot or so above the egg. The contents of eggs don't typically leap out at people.

Thanks for the answers and discussion. I'd buy most of the other ones, but this one I still have a problem with. For one he just came from a dead body that had died violently and mysteriously. I think the close up camera of the egg probably made it seem like he was closer, but he was about to prod the insides with something after having seen something moving inside. I would have gotten out of there as soon as it opened. Actually I wouldn't have rappelled down the hole in the first place. Giant humanoid corpse ripped open from inside, oh look a rip in the ship's floor, lower me down.

One more question: if Mother's order was to bring back the specimen, why would she allow the self destruct? I guess maybe the cooling system was just manually disengaged and out of Mother's control, but then why would Ripley be upset at Mother for not stopping the self destruct sequence later?

Anyway, I love the first 2 Alien movies and they will always be classics to me, having seen both at a young age (Alien when I was 5, Aliens when I was 11). Just saying there were turn your brain off moments in those too. It was just easier because the movies were more streamlined, and you knew what to focus on and what to ignore.

[Erigu]

I've always had issues with this as well. That said, I think they heard the beacon coming from that region and decided to retrieve it asap. But yeah, wouldn't it be better to send a crew with that specific purpose? In the film the company is said to have a weapons division. Send those guys.

Yeah, the idea that the Company meant for the Nostromo to bring a sample back never quite worked for me... I try to rationalize it by assuming that they knew there was something in that (big) region of space, but had no idea where exactly, and just started assigning asshole androids as science officers to all the mining ships that had to travel in that area, "just in case", but... why not simply send a bunch of probes? Why expect an unknowing crew to do a good job at securing a sample?
Would work better if the Company had no prior knowledge at all...

[symphonask]

The scene would be so much scarier had they recognized the things as a threat and tried to get away and failed. Stupidity is such a tiresome plot device. :

Agree with this part.

My justification, right or wrong, for his actions there are that he probably thought that his suit and helmet gave him adequate protection against the snake-like creature. Even when the thing attached itself to his arm he didn't seem too upset. It was only when he asked Fifield ("I'm not touching that!") to help him get it off and the thing tightened its grip that he really seemed freaked out.

Still it was really dumb, not really trying to make excuses for a poorly written scenario.

[GhaleonEB]

Thanks for the answers and discussion. I'd buy most of the other ones, but this one I still have a problem with. For one he just came from a dead body that had died violently and mysteriously. I think the close up camera of the egg probably made it seem like he was closer, but he was about to prod the insides with something after having seen something moving inside. I would have gotten out of there as soon as it opened. Actually I wouldn't have rappelled down the hole in the first place. Giant humanoid corpse ripped open from inside, oh look a rip in the ship's floor, lower me down.

One other thing that always bugged me in that scene is the lack of communication between Kain and Dallas/Lambert. He relays very little information, including "the egg just opened". Pretty sure Dallas' response would have been something along the lines of, "Get the hell out of there," before reeling him back in and bailing.

One more question: if Mother's order was to bring back the specimen, why would she allow the self destruct? I guess maybe the cooling system was just manually disengaged and out of Mother's control, but then why would Ripley be upset at Mother for not stopping the self destruct sequence later?

Mother's programming was to stop the ship if it received a transmission of uknown origin, and tell the Captain such. The clause in the crew's contract requiring them to investigate it or lose their pay for the trip was there to compel compliance. Ash was planted as a fail safe to ensure anything found got back home safely. I don't think Mother really kept tabs on what was happening in between - she just stopped the ship and altered the crew to the beacon.

Anyway, I love the first 2 Alien movies and they will always be classics to me, having seen both at a young age (Alien when I was 5, Aliens when I was 11). Just saying there were turn your brain off moments in those too. It was just easier because the movies were more streamlined, and you knew what to focus on and what to ignore.

Likewise, I grew up with these movies. Some of the issues I now have with them never really occurred to me when I was younger. But even as an adult, they don't bother me when I watch the movies, because they are so effective at sucking me into the moment. That's broadly similar to Prometheus, in that the experience of seeing it in theaters is one I really enjoyed, sans a few really dumb moments (snake thing, etc.). But Prometheus' flaws run so much deeper that I find myself tearing into it much harder. It's a more ambitious film, but also a much more muddled one. A cleaner, more streamlined narrative with the same material could have been extraordinary.

[maharg]

A cleaner, more streamlined narrative with the same material could have been extraordinary.

This.

Also, re. some complaints about both Prometheus and Alien, please keep in mind that in both cases the crew is very new to the idea that we're not alone in the universe. They aren't prepared for first contact. I also do think that the crew of Prometheus was chosen largely as fodder both in and out of universe, so them being extra dumb didn't bother me at all. Beyond a certain point, nit-pick complaints are just a manifestation of disappointment with the overall script anyways.

[Rentahamster]

Thanks for the answers and discussion. I'd buy most of the other ones, but this one I still have a problem with. For one he just came from a dead body that had died violently and mysteriously. I think the close up camera of the egg probably made it seem like he was closer, but he was about to prod the insides with something after having seen something moving inside. I would have gotten out of there as soon as it opened.

He probably also assumed that his huge, thick helmet would have offered some sort of protection. That whole burning through your helmet thing took Kane by surprise.

I also do think that the crew of Prometheus was chosen largely as fodder both in and out of universe, so them being extra dumb didn't bother me at all.

I agree for the most part, but I still get a nagging feeling when I think that Weyland should have been too much of a genius/planner to have staffed his crew with morons. Especially when he's on the ship, too.

[SenEXunk]

Not enough engineers if you ask me. They stole every scene they were in.

[Phat Michael]

Newt should died in Aliens. That hack Cameron lacked the halls to do it.

Is English your 5th language?

[Dead]

Blu-ray special features revealed?

http://collider.com/prometheus-blu-r...scenes/177495/

Disc 1 (Prometheus 2D) (+150 minutes of bonuses): On disk: Cut scenes or alternative (15 mins) Audio commentary by director (120 mins) The private records of Peter Weyland, four viral videos (18 mins): - The offer of Elizabeth Shaw - Happy Birthday David - Prometheus Transmission (extended version) - The conference Weyland in 2023 (long version) Outside the disk: Second Screen App: App iPad Control Blu-ray Remote which gives access to the archives of Peter Weyland (60 mins): Pre-production: - First and final draft of the script (text) - Sketches of Ridley Scott (photo gallery) - The Art of Prometheus (photo gallery) - Pre-visualization (30 mins) - Tests of Noomi Rapace (15 mins) - The costume design (photo gallery) - Tests “look” of the cast (10 mins) Production: - Graphic Video Dashboard - Photographs of the team - Video of the private pilot Production and post-release: - Marketing Gallery Disc 2 (Prometheus 3D): The 3D film active Disc 3 (Bonus complementary Prometheus): The angry gods: how to make the Prometheus of Ridley Scott, 9 videos (120 mins): - At the Conquest of Paradise (scenario) - The engineering upside down (direction & design) - The manifest human (characters & costumes) - A nest of demons (creature design) - A world without green spaces (Pinewood) - Gains of chance (stunts & action) - The beginning and end (Iceland) - The sky on fire (visual effects) - Prometheus without limits (post-production and theatrical release) Units of improvement (30 mins): - Mini-featurettes The archives of Peter Weyland (60 mins)

Shit is PACKED. But doesn't seem to list an extended cut at all. Either were not getting one at all, or its getting released later. Im wagering on the former.

[TheJollyCorner]

Blu-ray special features revealed? http://collider.com/prometheus-blu-r...scenes/177495/ But doesn't seem to list an extended cut at all. Either were not getting one at all, or its getting released later. Im wagering on the former.

Shiiiiii-et. :/

I'll still get it.
Maybe the extended version will be released prior to the sequel?

[Anton Sugar]

Wow. With no extended cut, I'll basically be buying this just to own it. It really seems like an extended cut would make it a better movie, from what we've seen.

[Dead Man]

Blu-ray special features revealed? http://collider.com/prometheus-blu-r...scenes/177495/ Shit is PACKED. But doesn't seem to list an extended cut at all. Either were not getting one at all, or its getting released later. Im wagering on the former.

No sale if that is accurate.

[Not a Jellyfish]

So....it comes with the first draft of the script meaning? SPACE JESUS!

[Demoncarnotaur]

No extended cut? Blah. I bet they double dip at some point to try to make more money off of the film.

None the less, Day 1, that seems to be an incredibly solid Blu Ray set.

[parrotbeak]

I don't mind waiting for the extended cut if they spend time editing it so the movie makes sense.