Zornica
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(06-07-2012, 06:16 PM)

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#101

the HoR demo is pretty good, or at least far better than I expected. Too bad it ends when you kill the "main boss". I coudn't even complete the side quests -_-.
And they locked out the possibilty of playing with your friends, strangers only...
Htown
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(06-07-2012, 06:16 PM)

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#102

OH SHIT FUCKING LAST BLADE ON VIRTUAL CONSOLE OH MY GOD
Tyeforce
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(06-07-2012, 07:33 PM)

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#103

Has anyone here who got Art of Balance TOUCH! been able to beat level 7.1 in World A? I can't seem to complete it no matter what. The solution for the WiiWare version doesn't seem to work, the blocks keep falling over... :(
Chopper
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(06-07-2012, 07:51 PM)

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#104

Originally Posted by Tyeforce: View Post
Has anyone here who got Art of Balance TOUCH! been able to beat level 7.1 in World A? I can't seem to complete it no matter what. The solution for the WiiWare version doesn't seem to work, the blocks keep falling over... :(
Clue: Use Tetris L first.
2nd Clue: Use ball last.

Outright solution spoiler:

http://i.imgur.com/YyVBN.jpg
Last edited by Chopper; 06-07-2012 at 07:57 PM.
DavidDayton
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(06-07-2012, 10:50 PM)

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#105

My 3DS is out for repair, so I'll need some help this week...

Can anyone tell me:

1) Exactly what demos and video clips were released as DOWNLOADS on the 3DS eShop this week? (Not streams, just downloadable stuff.)

2) WHEN any of these were released? I thought some videos/demos were released for download on the 5th or 6th.

I want to add them to the spreadsheet...

(North American eShop only, though.)
rpmurphy
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(06-07-2012, 11:09 PM)

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#106

Originally Posted by DavidDayton: View Post
My 3DS is out for repair, so I'll need some help this week...

Can anyone tell me:

1) Exactly what demos and video clips were released as DOWNLOADS on the 3DS eShop this week? (Not streams, just downloadable stuff.)

2) WHEN any of these were released? I thought some videos/demos were released for download on the 5th or 6th.

I want to add them to the spreadsheet...

(North American eShop only, though.)
To the best of my knowledge:
NSMB2 trailer - Tuesday, June 5th
Luigi's Mansion and Paper Mario trailers - Wednesday, June 6th
LEGO Batman 2 demo - Wednesday, June 6th
tim.mbp
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(06-07-2012, 11:10 PM)

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#107

Originally Posted by Htown: View Post
OH SHIT FUCKING LAST BLADE ON VIRTUAL CONSOLE OH MY GOD
Can't believe this didn't even warrent a blurb from Nintendo's PR.
Man God
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(06-07-2012, 11:12 PM)

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#108

READY

SLUSH!
rpmurphy
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(06-07-2012, 11:16 PM)

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#109

People actually rating the downloadable trailers. What.
DavidDayton
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(06-07-2012, 11:17 PM)

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#110

Originally Posted by rpmurphy: View Post
To the best of my knowledge:
NSMB2 trailer - Tuesday, June 5th
Luigi's Mansion and Paper Mario trailers - Wednesday, June 6th
LEGO Batman 2 demo - Wednesday, June 6th
Could you do me a second, BIG favor and check and see what the exact names of each of those three are in the eShop?

Only one demo then? I thought I heard there was another demo...
Roto13
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(06-07-2012, 11:20 PM)

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#111

Originally Posted by rpmurphy: View Post
People actually rating the downloadable trailers. What.
Ha ha ha, I totally do that. xP
rpmurphy
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(06-07-2012, 11:21 PM)

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#112

Originally Posted by DavidDayton: View Post
Could you do me a second, BIG favor and check and see what the exact names of each of those three are in the eShop?

Only one demo then? I thought I heard there was another demo...
Yeah one demo, since Order Up was last week. PAL region got Heroes of Ruin instead of Batman.

Full names:
LEGO® Batman 2™: DC Super Heroes
New Super Mario Bros.™ 2 Trailer
Luigi's Mansion™: Dark Moon Trailer
Paper Mario™: Sticker Star Trailer
DavidDayton
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(06-07-2012, 11:24 PM)

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Originally Posted by rpmurphy: View Post
Yeah one demo, since Order Up was last week. PAL region got Heroes of Ruin instead of Batman.

Full names:
LEGO® Batman 2™: DC Super Heroes
New Super Mario Bros.™ 2 Trailer
Luigi's Mansion™: Dark Moon Trailer
Paper Mario™: Sticker Star Trailer
Updating the spreadsheet(s) as we speak...

For some reason, there appears to be a coin discrepancy between the original sheet and my new one. I need to figure out where it's coming from. I found a missing game that I added at one point (Personal Trainer: Math), but the coin count should otherwise be the same on both sheets for the "original" values...
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(06-07-2012, 11:26 PM)

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#114

Originally Posted by tim.mbp: View Post
Can't believe this didn't even warrent a blurb from Nintendo's PR.
It's enraging how little attention they give new Virtual Console releases.

Wonder Boy in Monster Land and Monster World IV should have been made out as a big deal, in particular (being their first time in English).
rpmurphy
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(06-07-2012, 11:29 PM)

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#115

Originally Posted by Roto13: View Post
Ha ha ha, I totally do that. xP
Being on your downloaded list, Activity Log, and Club Nintendo list isn't enough, it has to be on your surveyed list too, huh? lol
Do you just leave it on for an hour or something?
Roto13
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(06-07-2012, 11:31 PM)

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Originally Posted by rpmurphy: View Post
Being on your downloaded list, Activity Log, and Club Nintendo list isn't enough, it has to be on your surveyed list too, huh? lol
Do you just leave it on for an hour or something?
Don't judge me!
Marz
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(06-08-2012, 12:02 AM)

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#117

Last Blade is getting downloaded.

Wish we get the second one with the quickness.

Any chance SNK will actually put Samurai Shodown V & VI and Fatal Fury Garou Mark of the Wolvies on the VC?

Also you guys should still be supproting the VC releases on Wii if we want to have any hope of the service "flourishing" on Wii. Never heard of Monster World IV in my life but I downloaded it just to reward Sega for putting a little effort into getting it translated.
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(06-08-2012, 12:07 AM)

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#118

Originally Posted by Marz: View Post
Also you guys should still be supproting the VC releases on Wii if we want to have any hope of the service "flourishing" on Wii.
The only thing flourishing on the Wii is my chapped ass over the past two days.
RedSwirl
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(06-08-2012, 12:34 AM)

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#119

Last Blade worth it? I've been waiting for a chance to buy Last Blade 2 for a while but never got around to it. How does the first game compare? Are these games even available anywhere else other than retail Neo Geo. I know LB2 came out on Dremacast in the US but is that it?
MidnightScott
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(06-08-2012, 01:23 AM)

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#120

Anyone know where to find the correct screenshots for Art of Balance Touch? I tried googling it but it didn't help...need 400x240 thanks.

Do y'all recommend this game?
BooJoh
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(06-08-2012, 01:32 AM)

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#121

Originally Posted by MidnightScott: View Post
Anyone know where to find the correct screenshots for Art of Balance Touch? I tried googling it but it didn't help...need 400x240 thanks.

Do y'all recommend this game?
http://www.3ds-screenshot.com/ has some, you can view them in 3D if you're using a 3DS.
tuffy
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(06-08-2012, 01:45 AM)

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#122

Originally Posted by RedSwirl: View Post
Last Blade worth it? I've been waiting for a chance to buy Last Blade 2 for a while but never got around to it. How does the first game compare? Are these games even available anywhere else other than retail Neo Geo. I know LB2 came out on Dremacast in the US but is that it?
The Last Blade is the style of Garou: Mark of the Wolves with the swordplay of Samurai Shodown. The first one is just as good as the second and packed with all the quality of SNK at their very best. I'm pretty lousy at fighters but I still enjoy this one because the controls are so tight and all that hand-drawn art still looks incredible over a decade later.
RedSwirl
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(06-08-2012, 02:41 AM)

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#123

Originally Posted by tuffy: View Post
The Last Blade is the style of Garou: Mark of the Wolves with the swordplay of Samurai Shodown. The first one is just as good as the second and packed with all the quality of SNK at their very best. I'm pretty lousy at fighters but I still enjoy this one because the controls are so tight and all that hand-drawn art still looks incredible over a decade later.
Dayumn.
Tyeforce
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(06-08-2012, 05:50 AM)

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#124

Originally Posted by Chopper: View Post
Clue: Use Tetris L first.
2nd Clue: Use ball last.

Outright solution spoiler:

http://i.imgur.com/YyVBN.jpg
Thank you!! I tried that a few times before, but the blocks just fell over. Guess I didn't do it fast enough or something.
woo and indeed hoo
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(06-08-2012, 12:43 PM)

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#125

Originally Posted by MidnightScott: View Post
Anyone know where to find the correct screenshots for Art of Balance Touch? I tried googling it but it didn't help...need 400x240 thanks.

Do y'all recommend this game?
Are these any use?

http://art-of-balance.shinen.com/gallery.php

You could always ask Shinen directly if you need them for a review or something. I am sure they would welcome the exposure.

I would recommend it but I would also recommend that people try the Wiiware demo of the original game first if they are not sure about the game.
blu
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(06-08-2012, 12:45 PM)

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#126

Originally Posted by MidnightScott: View Post
Anyone know where to find the correct screenshots for Art of Balance Touch? I tried googling it but it didn't help...need 400x240 thanks.

Do y'all recommend this game?
Sorry, I don't have any screenshots to offer, but I heartily recommend this game, and at least equally so its WiiWare original.
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#127

Originally Posted by ElectricBlanketFire: View Post
We should get Cat Frenzy trending on Twitter and make it out to be a AAA title.
I'm sadly addicted to this game.
gerudoman
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(06-08-2012, 05:59 PM)

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#128

I checked the european eShop today and all we got related to E3 is the pre E3 Nintendo Direct and a promotional video of WiiU, and you can't even download them :/

Btw, still no news of Cave Story+ apart that is scheduled to come out this summer, right?
Tyeforce
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(06-08-2012, 10:59 PM)

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#129

So, I've played a good amount of Art of Balance TOUCH! (all of World A and most of World B), and I'm already starting to regret my purchase. The gameplay is great and all, but I can't help but notice the lack of polish. I had always heard that Shin'en was a great WiiWare developer, and Art of Balance on Wii was one of the top rated WiiWare games, and that's what made me pick up Art of Balance TOUCH! But while the game is pretty good, it really feels like the developers were lazy and didn't care about polish. I've already ran into a few graphical glitches, and one glitch that even forced me to close the game. There are parts where the 3D effect isn't utilized properly, resulting in weird illusions that hurt your eyes to look at (for example, if you drag a block towards the bottom of the screen below the water).

To be fair, when the 3D effect isn't broken, the visuals do look really nice (except the water, which doesn't really look like water at all...), and the music is nice and calming, and quite catchy, but I think the game still needed a bit of work. The thing I hate most in a video game is a lack of polish, so I'm always very careful about which third party games I purchase. Sorry, but Shin'en could do better. Maybe I'm just spoiled by Nintendo's extremely polished offerings.

That said, I don't want anyone to take this the wrong way. I think the game's great, and for people who don't care about polish (which there must be a lot of, since many unpolished third party games sell very well), the gameplay is really fun and relaxing. Just don't expect Nintendo-level polish.
Last edited by Tyeforce; 06-09-2012 at 02:13 AM.
tanooki141
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(06-09-2012, 06:44 AM)

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#130

Shantae confirmed by Matt Bozon to be coming to the 3DS VC soon!

Capcom logos will be removed and they are waiting on the ESRB and Nintendo at this point.

Source: NWR
@MUWANdo
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(06-09-2012, 06:55 AM)
#131

Originally Posted by gerudoman: View Post
Btw, still no news of Cave Story+ apart that is scheduled to come out this summer, right?
Those schedules aren't iron-clad. Cave Story DSiWare was on the PAL release schedule at least six times.
Freezie KO
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(06-09-2012, 08:53 AM)
#132

I never got a chance to play the first Last Blade. I just played LB2 on Dreamcast, and I loved it. I think I shall download this.
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#133

Heros of Ruien was great

3D was impressive, never got in any way of the action

lots of stuff happening

buy it people !!!
Link0080
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(06-09-2012, 09:42 AM)

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#134

Originally Posted by dwu8991: View Post
Heros of Ruien was great

3D was impressive, never got in any way of the action

lots of stuff happening

buy it people !!!
Do we know if NA is getting a demo for this? Would really like to try before I buy.
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#135

Originally Posted by Dityrink: View Post
Do we know if NA is getting a demo for this? Would really like to try before I buy.
Yes, we'll be getting a demo soon.
woo and indeed hoo
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(06-09-2012, 01:03 PM)

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#136

Originally Posted by Tyeforce: View Post
So, I've played a good amount of Art of Balance TOUCH! (all of World A and most of World B), and I'm already starting to regret my purchase. The gameplay is great and all, but I can't help but notice the lack of polish. I had always heard that Shin'en was a great WiiWare developer, and Art of Balance on Wii was one of the top rated WiiWare games, and that's what made me pick up Art of Balance TOUCH! But while the game is pretty good, it really feels like the developers were lazy and didn't care about polish. I've already ran into a few graphical glitches, and one glitch that even forced me to close the game. There are parts where the 3D effect isn't utilized properly, resulting in weird illusions that hurt your eyes to look at (for example, if you drag a block towards the bottom of the screen below the water).

To be fair, when the 3D effect isn't broken, the visuals do look really nice (except the water, which doesn't really look like water at all...), and the music is nice and calming, and quite catchy, but I think the game still needed a bit of work. The thing I hate most in a video game is a lack of polish, so I'm always very careful about which third party games I purchase. Sorry, but Shin'en could do better. Maybe I'm just spoiled by Nintendo's extremely polished offerings.

That said, I don't want anyone to take this the wrong way. I think the game's great, and for people who don't care about polish (which there must be a lot of, since many unpolished third party games sell very well), the gameplay is really fun and relaxing. Just don't expect Nintendo-level polish.
Like the Skyward Sword game ending glitch or the Twilight Princess gaming ending glitch? :P

I had the game freeze on me too but the 3DS re-booted itself automatically. It's alive!!! :o

I would recommend switching the camera to the second [non default] option which zooms it out slightly and has resolved the vast majority of my camera issues.

Also, if you select a block and then change your mind and wish to return it, I have found it is easier to move it over an existing block that has been placed so that it turns red and take the stylus off the screen. The game will then replace the block for you. I have found this much easier than contorting my fingers to press b or try and move it to the bottom of the screen, which is not always easy due to the camera.

I would also recommend turning down the 3D. I normally play all 3DS games with the 3D slider at 100% but this game isn't comfortable for me at that setting. However, I'm fine if I reduce it so that there is some 3D but not enough to be a distraction.

Hope this helps.

Of course we may get a patch/update for the game in due course.
Last edited by woo and indeed hoo; 06-09-2012 at 01:06 PM.
watershed
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(06-09-2012, 01:39 PM)

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#137

I just bought Art of Balance TOUCH and its pretty good. Its more or less what you want it to be but the water does suck. It behaves more like a tub of jelly than water. Other than that its a sold buy.
Stumpokapow
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#138

Originally Posted by tanooki141: View Post
Shantae confirmed by Matt Bozon to be coming to the 3DS VC soon!

Capcom logos will be removed and they are waiting on the ESRB and Nintendo at this point.

Source: NWR
I wonder if they'll sell it for $150? :p
backlot
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(06-09-2012, 02:11 PM)

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#139

Originally Posted by tanooki141: View Post
Shantae confirmed by Matt Bozon to be coming to the 3DS VC soon!

Capcom logos will be removed and they are waiting on the ESRB and Nintendo at this point.

Source: NWR
Please, NOA, don't make us wait forever on this one. :(
Roto13
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(06-09-2012, 02:18 PM)

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#140

Oh, Shantae. I know how this will go for me.

"Well, I didn't like it before, but maybe I'll like it this time?"

*buys*

"Ugh, nope."

See also, "I haven't liked any of WayForwards other games, but maybe I'll like Lit/Mighty Flip Champs/Bloodrayne." "Ugh, nope."
Box of Bunnies
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(06-09-2012, 02:30 PM)

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Originally Posted by backlot: View Post
Please, NOA, don't make us wait forever on this one. :(
Considering the original release never left the US and it took four months for Risky's Revenge to launch outside America (and that it missed Australia and New Zealand when it did), that's a pretty funny joke you're pulling. If it releases anywhere, it's going to be America first and foremost.

But hey, Wario Land right?
blu
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(06-09-2012, 05:10 PM)

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#142

Heads-up PAL landers: the annoyingly-missing E3 trailer section is finally up on the store. Unfortunately none of the game trailers found on the NA store are there, just Marvel Pinball (Zen Studios), All-access E3, and the pre-E3 Nintendo Direct videos. Oh well, rejoice!
Man God
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(06-09-2012, 05:12 PM)

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#143

Second year in a row that something got into Nintendo's water in mid spring and they started releasing VC game after VC game.
Tyeforce
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(06-09-2012, 08:20 PM)

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Originally Posted by woo and indeed hoo: View Post
Like the Skyward Sword game ending glitch or the Twilight Princess gaming ending glitch? :P

I had the game freeze on me too but the 3DS re-booted itself automatically. It's alive!!! :o

I would recommend switching the camera to the second [non default] option which zooms it out slightly and has resolved the vast majority of my camera issues.

Also, if you select a block and then change your mind and wish to return it, I have found it is easier to move it over an existing block that has been placed so that it turns red and take the stylus off the screen. The game will then replace the block for you. I have found this much easier than contorting my fingers to press b or try and move it to the bottom of the screen, which is not always easy due to the camera.

I would also recommend turning down the 3D. I normally play all 3DS games with the 3D slider at 100% but this game isn't comfortable for me at that setting. However, I'm fine if I reduce it so that there is some 3D but not enough to be a distraction.

Hope this helps.

Of course we may get a patch/update for the game in due course.
I'm aware that many Nintendo games have glitches, too, but most of the time they aren't graphical glitches. If it's a huge game like Zelda, then I'd be surprised if there weren't any kind of glitches at all. Most games do have little glitches, but if it's a well polished game then those glitches don't really hurt the game's presentation, and you'll have to go out of your way to even find them. But for smaller games like Art of Balance there's not much of an excuse for menu and graphical glitches like this. Then again, I'm guessing Shin'en is pretty small, so I guess I can't expect the same level of polish as I would from a much larger developer. (Though there are plenty of games from very small developers that are extremely well polished, like Cave Story, Mighty Switch Force!, VVVVVV, and Mutant Mudds.)

I don't know why it's so important to me, but it is. I define a lack of polish as a game feeling "cheap", in a bad way. Art of Balance TOUCH! definitely has that "cheap" feeling in quite a few areas, especially the menus.

Anyway, I'm probably nitpicking too much. I'm enjoying the game, and the graphical glitches aren't really getting in the way of gameplay for me. I probably sound like an ass when I complain about the littlest things like this, but I'm just wanted to see if there's anyone else out there who agrees with me. I'm not saying that the game is bad or anything, it just doesn't have the level of polish that I was expecting.

Also, I tried the other camera option once, but I didn't really like it. I'll have to try it again to see if it's any better. Thanks.
Chopper
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(06-09-2012, 09:55 PM)

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#145

I much prefer the second camera option. The sink sticking out of the screen really bothered me. Especially when the green lights appear. It's a fun game, and worth your monies, but the lack of polish is blatant.

Has no-one else experienced the zooming issue though? That shit is lame.
M3d10n
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(06-09-2012, 10:17 PM)

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#146

Art of Balance Touch has a huge graphics flaw that annoys me to no end: the water reflection isn't 3D.

In 2D, it does looks like reflective water but as soon as you turn 3D on the water turns into a waving cloth with a "reflection" painted on it. It's noticeable in both the screenshots and in the eShop trailer. It's obvious they render the reflection once and re-use it for both the left and right stereo images which is wrong since reflections are supposed to change with the viewpoint.

I cannot believe Shin'en, as technically talented as they are, managed to botch this.
tim.mbp
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(06-09-2012, 10:29 PM)

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#147

I got to say, the sprites in The Last Blade are godly.
lunchwithyuzo
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(06-09-2012, 10:30 PM)
#148

Originally Posted by Marz: View Post
Last Blade is getting downloaded.

Wish we get the second one with the quickness.

Any chance SNK will actually put Samurai Shodown V & VI and Fatal Fury Garou Mark of the Wolvies on the VC?

Also you guys should still be supproting the VC releases on Wii if we want to have any hope of the service "flourishing" on Wii. Never heard of Monster World IV in my life but I downloaded it just to reward Sega for putting a little effort into getting it translated.
Garou and SSV are just a matter of time imo. SSVI was an Atomiswave game though so that won't be happening on Wii VC ever.

D4 better go back and bring us some of the Neo games they skipped during their year long western hiatus. I need Twinkle Star Sprites in my life!
Marz
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(06-09-2012, 10:33 PM)

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#149

Oh snap forgot Last Blade came out. Going to download right now.
RedSwirl
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(06-10-2012, 01:08 AM)

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#150

Just tried out Last Blade. Shit, I'm gonna need a PDF manual on my iPad in my lap before I even start playing this.