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#151

Originally Posted by witness: View Post
Tons of hate but Big Daddy is awesome, can't wait to see what his three supers are. Males me excited to see who else are they going to get from third parties.
Hopefully they go crazy with it, have little sister, maybe splicers/plasmids, etc.

Or have a Rapture level with that stuff in the background. Would be awesome.
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#152

Originally Posted by Sponge: View Post
I love all the hate in this thread, it's like it's okay when Nintendo adds a third party character. Sony does it? Oh no, what a mistake!
If you are a Sony fan though, wouldn't you want the best third party characters? Every third party character in the game means licensing fees which means less profit. It seems smart to keep the third party characters to a minimum and to save the likes of Big Daddy as DLC or for the sequel if the game is a success.
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#153

Originally Posted by Sponge: View Post
I'll join umjammerlammy's boat if they gave us ugly as sin Skylanders Spyro.

Do you want this game to fail? Maybe it's just me, but that design is hideous.
Spyro won't show up at all, Stealth Elf or Drobot is more likely
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#154

Originally Posted by SpacePirate Ridley: View Post
Theres also Snake for what it seems and people are talking here as if there is already/they want half of the roster with other third party porperties.

Im pretty sure if an unremarkable third party character as Big Daddy (and I like Bioshock) is in, there are going to be LOTS more.
*shrug*

don't really care about your opinion, tbh, but blindly disliking something before the information is fully revealed is a quick way to make yourself look dumb if you're wrong.

Have fun though.
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#155

The problem is I think people wanting crash and spyro will be ecstatic they are in, but when the game is finally released they will not be buying or playing the game anyway.

It works for nintendo because their nostalgic characters often are still popular today. Sony just can't quite get by on this. Most of their mascots have not aged well or were never big in the first place.

It isn't too hard to strike a balance but they need all the popular or interesting third party characters they can get.

Anybody called pyramid head yet?
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#156

Originally Posted by Andrefpvs: View Post
Which third-party characters do we truly associate with PlayStation anyway? Snake, Raiden, characters from FF VII to XII (Cloud, Sephiroth, Leon, Tidus, Yuna, etc.), Lara Croft, Dante, Spyro, Crash, etc...

Feel free to add more as I know I'm forgetting a few, but it isn't hard to see why they'd get more "multiplatform" characters to fill in the roster.
Sora (though he can be associated with Nintendo as well)
Kazuma Kiryu
Tekken Characters
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#157

Originally Posted by alr1ghtstart: View Post
And Kojima has stated he views the MGS series as a playstation series.
MGSolid for sure but Snake was around since the original MG (before Solid).
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#158

In the case of Spyro, he's either showing up with new skin or not at all....but that doesnt mean they cant throw in a classic costume as well or have the new skin as an alt
Loudninja
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Food for thought.
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#159

Hah Big Daddy is going to be awesome.
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#160

Originally Posted by Kyon: View Post
I think thats what people arent getting. The mascot/icon thing was just speculation. This means that any character is possible imo
And it'll probably make for a more diverse and interesting roster, even if it doesn't hit the highest possible Sony fanservice notes.

Very good tradeoff, imo.
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#161

Originally Posted by sn00zer: View Post
Shit is going to hit the fan when Crash or Spyro dont get in....as soon as the community sees something they dont like they immediately put on blinders ignoring all of the other awesome characters included in the game, sure ill be sad when I cant play as classic Spyro, but Ill be having a hell of a time kicking the crap outta Jak with Ratchet
People are setting themselves up for disappoint even remotely wanting Crash or Spyro.

Were they important during the PSone era? Absolutely! They were Sony's mascots, but times have changed and Naughty Dog, Insomniac and Sony cut their ties with Universal (who now belongs to Activision) ages ago. It's like wanting Banjo-Kazooie in Smash bros because he was big during the N64 era. Rare's gone, and so is Universal. There's plenty of characters Sony has made since the PSone, and Sony needs to push their own creations and IPs and not try to cling on to Crash and Spyro. If those two characters meant anything in 2012, why are they not as big names as they used to be?
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#162

Originally Posted by sn00zer: View Post
Shit is going to hit the fan when Crash or Spyro dont get in....as soon as the community sees something they dont like they immediately put on blinders ignoring all of the other awesome characters included in the game, sure ill be sad when I cant play as classic Spyro, but Ill be having a hell of a time kicking the crap outta Jak with Ratchet
It would be the developers fault for doing something as stupid as not including the Playstations first mascots in a Playstation smash bros game
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Averon
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#163

Don't really get the hate for Big Daddy appearing in the game. Seems like hating the game just for the sake of it.
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#164

Originally Posted by Porthos: View Post
MGSolid for sure but Snake was around since the original MG (before Solid).
And he was a traced copy of Michael Biehn...
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#165

Originally Posted by Green Scar: View Post
Spyro won't show up at all, Stealth Elf or Drobot is more likely
The Skylanders can be like the Pokemon trainer in Brawl, except you have to physically switch out characters with the portal of power.

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#166

Big Daddy is so fucking awesome. Can't wait to drill some bitches online.
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#167

Sackboy, Kuro and Toro will surely be in this as well, no?
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#168

While Big Daddy doesn't really make me think of Sony, I'm sure he will be a really fun character in the game
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Originally Posted by SmithnCo: View Post
The Skylanders can be like the Pokemon trainer in Brawl, except you have to physically switch out characters with the portal of power.

kotick.png
Can't wait to see that shit at EVO
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#170

Originally Posted by umjammerlammy: View Post
It would be the developers fault for doing something as stupid as not including the Playstations first mascots in a Playstation smash bros game
Yep it would be the developers fault for not forcing another company to hand over their characters to do with whatever they pleased. C'mon man, leave comments like this to other sites.
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#171

Originally Posted by Drencrom: View Post
While we're at the topic, expect Snake (MGS) and Cole (InFamous) at E3.

:O :O
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#172

Originally Posted by Haunted: View Post
Sackboy, Kuro and Toro will surely be in this as well, no?
Characters that were confirmed by Paul Gate.

Sackboy
Ratchet and Clank
Jak and Daxter
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#173

Sly ahead of Sweet Tooth in the poll? this make me happy.
velvet_nitemare
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#174

Haters everywhere up in this bitch. I thought everyone liked Smash Bros?
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#175

Originally Posted by Loudninja: View Post
Characters that were confirmed by Paul Gate.

Sackboy
Ratchet and Clank
Jak and Daxter
Wait, when was Sackboy confirmed?
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#176

WAIT so Snake "leaked" already? *dies*
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#177

Whoa, pretty cool Big Daddy is part of the cast. Was not expecting that.
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Originally Posted by Criminal Upper: View Post
Big Daddy is not a Playstation character, wtf.

At least Snake and Sonic had their own exclusive games on Nintendo's system.
Well technically there is supposed to be a Bioshock Vita exclusive game shrug. It's a bit of a stretch right now though I'd agree, he is definitely not a third party character one would associate with the playstation brand.
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#179

Originally Posted by Haunted: View Post
Sackboy, Kuro and Toro will surely be in this as well, no?
Sackboy surely. I really hope Toro or a Toro/Kuro team is in as well. Hopefully not as total joke characters.
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#180

Originally Posted by Sponge: View Post
Wait, when was Sackboy confirmed?
Even if it wasn't confirmed, it's gonna be in the game. I mean, it's the closest thing Sony has to a mascot.
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#181

any result from the 2nd poll with Kratos, Radec, Parappa and Big Daddy?

my guess Kratos will come on top, but I wonder who took the 2nd spot. hoping it's parappa, but I think it'll be close netween Radec, Big Daddy, and Parappa
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Originally Posted by KevinCow: View Post
Huh. I like Big Daddy, but it's kinda disappointing if that's the direction they're going with third-party characters. Not, "Who is relevant to the Playstation brand?" but, "Who can we get who is currently popular?"
Big Daddy isn't really "currently" popular, though. Bioshock came out in 2007, the beginning of this generation, which will be five years in the past by the time this game comes out, believe it or not.

Yeah, I'd be more likely to associate Big Daddy and Bioshock with the 360, but honestly, Big Daddy isn't that bad a 3rd Party choice. Yes, there are people like Cloud, Spyro, Crash, Lara Croft...but they were associated with the PS brand back in the 90s and licenses have changed hands and aren't first-party anymore. Sony getting third party characters that used to be associated with the PS brand is a lot more complicated than Nintendo going through its annals and picking out first-party things they still have rights to.
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#183

The confirmation of third-party characters is probably more exciting than Big Daddy itself.

Now to overinflate my expectations:
Crash Bandicoot
Spyro
Lara Croft
Snake
Cloud Strife

Edit: Oh Snake confirmed?
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#184

Originally Posted by Sponge: View Post
Wait, when was Sackboy confirmed?
They got pretty much everything right abotu the game,OS I am sure these characters are right as well.
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Very iconic character. Good choice.

Exactly eleven people on Earth want to play some obscure Sony character over a big dude with a drill arm. Don't listen to them, Sony.
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Kuro and Turo are already crapping up one fighting game. Don't need them in another one.
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Originally Posted by shinra-bansho: View Post
The confirmation of third-party characters is probably more exciting than Big Daddy itself.

Now to overinflate my expectations:
Crash Bandicoot
Spyro
Lara Croft
Snake
Cloud Strife

Edit: Oh Snake confirmed?
Third-party was confirmed when the game was announced on Gametrailers. Snake is pretty much confirmed by way of Cole's VA.


Originally Posted by Kusagari: View Post
Kuro and Turo are already crapping up one fighting game. Don't need them in another one.
:(
velvet_nitemare
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#188

They'll have to save stuff for thier own versions of Pokeballs and assists. Kuro for instance, maybe ever Sackboy.
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#189

Originally Posted by Callibretto: View Post
any result from the 2nd poll with Kratos, Radec, Parappa and Big Daddy?

my guess Kratos will come on top, but I wonder who took the 2nd spot. hoping it's parappa, but I think it'll be close netween Radec, Big Daddy, and Parappa
The result was (if I recollect correctly):
  1. Kratos
  2. Big Daddy
  3. Parappa
  4. Radec
People really do love that ferocious bastard.
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#190

Originally Posted by Kusagari: View Post
Kuro and Turo are already crapping up one fighting game. Don't need them in another one.
They could be minor unlockable characters and it wouldn't bother me.
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Originally Posted by SmithnCo: View Post
Third-party was confirmed when the game was announced on Gametrailers. Snake is pretty much confirmed by way of Cole's VA.
Didn't realise.

Googled David Hayter to see if he had done any other voice work for game characters - but he hasn't really so yeah, Snake confirmed for all intents and purposes. Random aside: didn't realise he was the same David Hayter who wrote the first two X-Men films.
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#192

Originally Posted by SmithnCo: View Post
Sackboy surely. I really hope Toro or a Toro/Kuro team is in as well. Hopefully not as total joke characters.
Joke characters? I don't know what you're talking about.

:D
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Originally Posted by bishoptl: View Post
Bitchfest central up in heah
Yep.

Though after the Tomb Raider and Hitman threads, I'm not even fazed. Most people on GAF these days just seem to love overreacting and jumping to crazy conclusions the second something they don't like is announced.

Big Daddy is far from being my personal first choice, but he makes sense. He's an iconic character from a developer that Sony has a good relationship with, and could provide a pretty unique playstyle.

The only disappointing thing is that they probably haven't changed the game's horrible name/logo.

Looking forward to seeing what other 3rd party characters get in. For some reason, this leak makes me think that Chell will get in as well.
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#194

If anything, this gives me faith that Bioshock Vita is REAL and is coming.
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Originally Posted by demosthenes: View Post
If anything, this gives me faith that Bioshock Vita is REAL and is coming.
I wish I could be this optimistic.

Revealing Big Daddy to be in this game would make a hell lot more sense if it was right after footage of gameplay from the Vita game.

But that thing is totally going to end up like Resident Evil PSP :(
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#196

I think they will show a bioshock vita trailer, then ken Levine will talk about big daddy's presence in another game which would be revealed to be PBR.
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#197

Anyone else expecting this guy upon entering this thread?



Just me I guess.
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#198

If true, I can only imagine what else they are going to do with this game. Great job Sony.
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Originally Posted by Comet: View Post
If true, I can only imagine what else they are going to do with this game. Great job Sony.
Everyone in here.
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Originally Posted by RPGCrazied: View Post
Nathan wasn't a matter of if, it was when. What about a Final Fantasy character? So far no character really interests me.
Zidane!