[ArynCrinn]

The gamepad is pretty useless though as it doesn't have analog triggers which completely disqualifies it for realistic racing games. If they were to add analog triggers, the Gamepad could become a great entry level steering wheel. Just selling a small plastic addon to fix it in place would make it amazing.

Really don't understand why Nintendo doesn't just add GCN style triggers and call it a day. Almost everybody loved them.

[NateDrake]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.... http://xbigygames.com/assassins-cree...p-on-the-wiiu/

Isn't that old? And what's the bad news? The team is small and limited in time. No one ever expected the Wii U version to exceed the other versions, either.

[MarkusRJR]

So do we know for sure if the Wii U will have an account system? I want to buy a Wii U at launch but I'm worried the hardware will crap out on me and I'll lose my DD games and Rock Band DLC (do we even know if DLC will transfer over?). I had a bunch of problems with my near-launch Wii in that regard. I don't mind buying a new console down the line if my launch Wii U breaks, but I'd want my downloadable games to move over. That's one of my big concerns with buying on launch.

[donny2112]

In regards to Pachter's views on Wii U, it's worth remembering that he seems to view Wii U as his long-predicted, late-coming Wii HD (i.e. an HD version of Wii for the PS360 generation). He's wrong, but it does explain his reasonings as to Wii U's chances of success.

On the ACIII comment, with the CPU differences and coming up-to-speed with new hardware (with apparently semi-frequent compiler-breaking changes with new firmware), getting launch games up to late, late-gen PS360 level is probably on the good side of what to expect. Does bode well for future performance compared to PS360, though. We'll see how far it is behind PS480 once games actually come out for it. I'm sure we'll see "target renders" and CGI saying "this is what PS480 will look like," but try to remember Sony's E3 2005 Killzone presentation and wait for the real games to release before making meaningful comparisons.

[jerd21]

Isn't that old? And what's the bad news? The team is small and limited in time. No one ever expected the Wii U version to exceed the other versions, either.

Yeah every version including the PC (if I remember right) is supposed to be the exact same visually, so the Wii U version was never supposed to exceed them. They also said that in the end the Wii U version will be up to par so no worries just yet.

[EatChildren]

Yeah every version including the PC (if I remember right)

It would be pretty unusual for AC3 to be the same on PC. The last batch of Creed games were improved quite nicely.

[Nibel]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.... http://xbigygames.com/assassins-cree...p-on-the-wiiu/

Let's make a thread

[jerd21]

It would be pretty unusual for AC3 to be the same on PC. The last batch of Creed games were improved quite nicely.

I'll have to dig, I must have misread it. That's good to know though because I recently bought the PC versions of Brotherhood and Revelations. I have AC2 on 360 so hopefully I can see some pretty solid improvements when I start on Brotherhood.

[Pineconn]

Let's make a thread

[DaSorcerer7]

Agreed

[Mpl90]

A bit OT, but I still think there will be a Nintendo Direct this month. I mean, why should they skip this month suddenly, considering they've always followed the pattern? And still, there can be even at the beginning of next week, on the 27th ( as happened in April). It'd be the same day of the possible The World Ends With You 2 announcement; during Nintendo Direct there could be a trailer.

[usmanusb]

WiiU may be a moderate console to start the next gen cycle but the current gen got so many convincing titles during the launch window which could hinder the Wii U sales... Yes Assassin Creed 3, Darksiders 2, dark knight and Aliens are quite cool games, but will it attract people who can play on their current systems? What will be the main selling point for WiiU? functionality? games? experience?

I think for x720 and PS4, developers will be in pressure to produce something differential from current gen.. but i have doubt it could show tremendous differences like from PS2 gen to PS3 gen ...

[Nibel]

A bit OT, but I still think there will be a Nintendo Direct this month. I mean, why should they skip this month suddenly, considering they've always followed the pattern? And still, there can be even at the beginning of next week, on the 27th ( as happened in April). It'd be the same day of the possible The World Ends With You 2 announcement; during Nintendo Direct there could be a trailer.

I can see them doing this, yes. We can safely assume that they skipped ND this month if this month is over, and since we are still in August I think we should wait. Besides, it's still a long road until the September conference.
So yeah, ND ist still possible.

[EDarkness]

It would be pretty unusual for AC3 to be the same on PC. The last batch of Creed games were improved quite nicely.

From what the AC3 devs told me, the PS3 was the lead platform since it was the hardest to deal with. All other versions will be the same, at least they were trying to make sure all of them were exactly the same. I asked if there would be any additions for the PC and was told that wouldn't happen (of course things can change and he did say that resolutions could be adjusted), but that's what I was told. Their goal was to have all versions look and play the same regardless of platform.

Even on the Wii U the HUD can be on screen and you can play the game without the use of the Wii Pad. Which will allow it to play exactly like the other versions. I don't think the Wii Pad additions are all that interesting. A map and way to quickly switch weapons. Yep...extensive.

[fabricated backlash]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.... http://xbigygames.com/assassins-cree...p-on-the-wiiu/

To be honest, I've played the Single Player demo on 360, PS3 and WiiU, and there were no discernable difference that I was able to spot. If true the differences left are minuscule

[EatChildren]

From what the AC3 devs told me, the PS3 was the lead platform since it was the hardest to deal with. All other versions will be the same, at least they were trying to make sure all of them were exactly the same. I asked if there would be any additions for the PC and was told that wouldn't happen (of course things can change and he did say that resolutions could be adjusted), but that's what I was told. Their goal was to have all versions look and play the same regardless of platform.

If true that's very, very disappointing. AC2, Brotherhood and Revelations had much better texture quality, improved shadow algorithms, support for 3D and various other tweaks. Wasn't a case of huge additional features (ala DX11 bells and whistles), but they most definitely looked a lot better than the console iterations.

A backwards step if Ubi is doing a direct port.

[Stewox]

Well the being less powerful is pretty much a fact at this point, however it could very well be the most successful console.

It won't be much of a difference.

[Nibel]

AC3 PC will have DX11 features

I think it will be a very good port

[Smiles and Cries]

what he was banned like 10 minutes ago?

[Stewox]

The gamepad is pretty useless though as it doesn't have analog triggers which completely disqualifies it for realistic racing games. If they were to add analog triggers, the Gamepad could become a great entry level steering wheel. Just selling a small plastic addon to fix it in place would make it amazing.

Wasn't already known that L and R are analog but ZL and ZR aren't?

[Wrestlemania]

Playing Sleeping Dogs with a 360 pad reminds me how incredibly useful analogue triggers are for operating any sort of vehicle in a game.

Every time I play a 360 game I'm reminded how they're just not as good as buttons for the overwhelming majority of games which don't require analogue input.

[Ryoku]

If true that's very, very disappointing. AC2, Brotherhood and Revelations had much better texture quality, improved shadow algorithms, support for 3D and various other tweaks. Wasn't a case of huge additional features (ala DX11 bells and whistles), but they most definitely looked a lot better than the console iterations. A backwards step if Ubi is doing a direct port.

Yo, I took your recommendation a while back of playing Arkham City. I played Asylum, and am currently playing City. Holy shit. The games are phenomenal--especially Arkham City.

[ColdBlooder]

Nibel
Banned

What the hell happened?

[specialguy]

Every time I play a 360 game I'm reminded how they're just not as good as buttons for the overwhelming majority of games which don't require analogue input.

I dont even get this comment.

Are you talking about the triggers only or what? Examples?

Are the Wii U triggers not analogue or something? What is this about?

Cause I cant really think of a case where the x360 triggers being analog hurt anything.

[fabricated backlash]

Wasn't already known that L and R are analog but ZL and ZR aren't?

Both are digital.

[DrWong]

Nibel Banned What the hell happened?

He said on his twitter he was banned for port beggin. He should be back in one week.

[IdeaMan]

Nibel :(

He said on his twitter he was banned for port beggin. He should be back in one week.

Ah a relief :)

[Wrestlemania]

I dont even get this comment. Are you talking about the triggers only or what? Examples? Are the Wii U triggers not analogue or something? What is this about? Cause I cant really think of a case where the x360 triggers being analog hurt anything.

It's not like the triggers are so much worse they're ruining games, but as analogue triggers it's just a fact that they can't be as good as a digital button for a digital input due to the excessive movement required to trigger is and the reduced response time as a result.
I suppose the argument that the trade off in response time for added functionality of an analogue trigger is worth it, but personally I'd rather have four digital buttons on the shoulders.

[D-e-f-]

WTF Nibel? What did you do??

the pachter rule: he says he isn´t sure= its captain obvious striking again he is stating things as facts= opposite will happen correct me if im wrong

if you wanna copyright that or something you should call it the Pachter Pattern. it's catchier

Yeah, the Wii U gets a freepass of being the weakest because it's coming out a year earlier than the PS4 and Xbox 720, it looked bad this gen for the Wii because it was the last one to come out but the weakest.

Actually, the PS3 was the last one to be fully (!) out the door worldwide. The Wii launched globally before Xmas 2006. The PS3 came out in SPRING 2007 (March 23) in Europe 'cause they couldn't get their shit together at the last minute. It's crazy how incredibly rocky their start was this gen.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.... http://xbigygames.com/assassins-cree...p-on-the-wiiu/

old news. also, not very specific news.

So do we know for sure if the Wii U will have an account system? I want to buy a Wii U at launch but I'm worried the hardware will crap out on me and I'll lose my DD games and Rock Band DLC (do we even know if DLC will transfer over?). I had a bunch of problems with my near-launch Wii in that regard. I don't mind buying a new console down the line if my launch Wii U breaks, but I'd want my downloadable games to move over. That's one of my big concerns with buying on launch.

yes, it has been officially announced many many months ago that there will be an account system. even if it didn't you wouldn't lose anything, just like you don't lose anything now when your 3DS, DSi or Wii breaks. you'd send it to Nintendo and they'd move your stuff over manually to your new console or remote-enable it on the new system.

you can scratch that off your problem-list.

[japtor]

If true that's very, very disappointing. AC2, Brotherhood and Revelations had much better texture quality, improved shadow algorithms, support for 3D and various other tweaks. Wasn't a case of huge additional features (ala DX11 bells and whistles), but they most definitely looked a lot better than the console iterations. A backwards step if Ubi is doing a direct port.

It'll have 100% more intrusive DRM!

[Mithos]

He said on his twitter he was banned for port beggin. He should be back in one week.

I guess from this thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=41319252
He wasn't the only one in that thread, someone wanted a Vita version, and Nibel wanted it on Mac, and wham banned.

[fabricated backlash]

yes, it has been officially announced many many months ago that there will be an account system. even if it didn't you wouldn't lose anything, just like you don't lose anything now when your 3DS, DSi or Wii breaks. you'd send it to Nintendo and they'd move your stuff over manually to your new console or remote-enable it on the new system. you can scratch that off your problem-list.

I bet the accounts are permanently tied to your console and in order to move them elsewhere you have to transfer all of them. Also you have a 5 hardware change limit.

[MadeInBeats]

Why is saying you would like to see a game on another platform called ‘port begging’ and why in God's name is it a heinous evil offence?

[Thunder Monkey]

Why is saying you would like to see a game on another platform called ‘port begging’ and why in God's name is it a heinous evil offence?

Because for a time it was the first page of any new game announcement thread.

[fabricated backlash]

Because for a time it was the first page of any new game announcement thread.

It still is for everything MH related unfortunately.

[D-e-f-]

Why is saying you would like to see a game on another platform called ‘port begging’ and why in God's name is it a heinous evil offence?

I bet the vesion of port begging that was the reason for this to become bannable was the "game X would be so much better on platform Y because platform Z suxx0rz!!!"

It's understandable in some way. But also terribly annoying if you have to be afraid to say "I'd love to see this game come out on [platform I own or want to buy]"´."

[Stewox]

Both are digital.

Okay


Source ?

[fabricated backlash]

Okay Source ?

Played it at Gamescom?

[tkscz]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.... http://xbigygames.com/assassins-cree...p-on-the-wiiu/

You mean the bearer of old news.

[Stewox]

Played it at Gamescom?

Nope, unless I got a free ride to cologne or klagenfurt or wherever it is.

But I wouldn't go alone anyways if i could. Most of my well known friends are pretty much out of gaming - they play but it's not like in the old days. Maybe i could have asked somebody but didn't, well I didn't even expect WiiU at gamescom to begin with.

But yeah If i went to game show i would also need a pretty good camera to catch tech stuff and get all those juicy details.

One of the biggest blunders is why nobody the heck snapshotted the controller up close so we could count the pixels again.

Can't wait to see pics of WiiU assembly boxes, shipping crates, containers ... I live pretty far away of even remotely possibly catching any of that stuff.

[fabricated backlash]

Nope, unless I got a free ride to cologne or klagenfurt or wherever it was. But I wouldn't go alone anyways if i could.

No, I know it because I played it at Gamescom. All Shoulder Buttons are digital on the gamepad.

[Stewox]

No, I know it because I played it at Gamescom. All Shoulder Buttons are digital on the gamepad.

You put "?" at the end.

And not klagenfurt lol, i meant frankfurt, but nvm, I see it was moved, funny now I remember the story of big publishers wanting to move to cologne but not participating this year.

[D-e-f-]

Played it at Gamescom?

you should've said "source: my hands"

:D

[10k]

My heart skipped a few beats when I saw Nibel banned. Thank god it was a short one.

[Sheroking]

I dont even get this comment. Are you talking about the triggers only or what? Examples? Are the Wii U triggers not analogue or something? What is this about? Cause I cant really think of a case where the x360 triggers being analog hurt anything.

The only thing I can think of is first person combat that uses the triggers, like Skyrim or Dead Island.

[MadeInBeats]

I bet the vesion of port begging that was the reason for this to become bannable was the "game X would be so much better on platform Y because platform Z suxx0rz!!!" It's understandable in some way. But also terribly annoying if you have to be afraid to say "I'd love to see this game come out on [platform I own or want to buy]"´."

Because for a time it was the first page of any new game announcement thread.

Haha, total insanity when you see the shit that's tolerated in WiiU threads. Like.. .. WOW!!

[fabricated backlash]

you should've said "source: my hands" :D

I guess. The shoulder buttons would be in the perfect position for analog functions, but they aren't so the Gamepad is useless for racing games.

[EatChildren]

Haha, total insanity when you see the shit that's tolerated in WiiU threads. Like.. .. WOW!!

You mean when people starting whining about port begging in the Rayman Legends thread and we rightfully cleaned it up with bans?

[Log4Girlz]

Nibel Banned What the hell happened?

Port begging, wishing something was on MAC.

[Stulaw]

I guess. The shoulder buttons would be in the perfect position for analog functions, but they aren't so the Gamepad is useless for racing games.

They can just use the right analogue stick like the Gran Turismo games do, it works fine that way.