[Nibel]

No need to justify your post, OryoN. I think the word choice was unlucky, but you made a good point nevertheless. :)

[schuelma]

There is a philosophy of keeping your fans hungry. Too much info, they get bored and their attention will stray. Give them a taste, and they will hang on for more. You know very well that Nintendo has had a policy of not revealing games that are too far out from launch. They tend to reveal & focus on titles that are no more than 6 months from launch. Nintendo has also shown us that they are interested in providing their own platform, called Nintendo Direct, to be a source of information. I suspect it is designed with the WiiU in mind. Getting these updates right on your gamepad.

I realize all of this. But I honestly think a platform launch is a different beast, especially given the circumstances the Wii U is in- kind of straddling 2 generations.

[Terrell]

I bookmarked this post. It gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling to know that there are people out there that GET IT. The internet is not completely worthless! *tear*

Excellent post. If only every gamer could read this.

Best post in the thread.

Uhhhh..... OK, didn't expect a fan following to that post. Thanks.

[10k]

I think that this can also be applied to people who have been gaming since before 3D came about. To me, an NES game still has the capacity to entertain and wow me, and I don't look at them comparatively. Most people who profess to be gamers aren't capable of that. Video games are one of the only forms of entertainment media in existence where the focus on the craft is measured in such a slanted way. I don't watch the Flintstones and think "man, this is garbage, look at that terrible animation!" Part of the reason Nintendo has the fans that they do is they build things that stand the test of time, which is what other media strives to do with (almost) everything they make. NES games still hold up because the limitation of the medium meant you were REQUIRED to include things that drew people back into the experience and had lasting appeal. It's an example that should be followed more.

Exactly. My little cousins laugh at nes and SNES games because they were only 6 when the PS3 and 360 came out. They have no appreciation for old school games And write them off right away because "lol the Grafix!". Most of the gamers here are old enough to remember the NES or played it at some time. The teenagers of today who buy the dudebro games have no appreciation for 2D games or sprite based games. Granted, this doesn't apply to all of them but still....sad to see.

It's like today's kids watching the original three star wars films and hating on them because of cheesy special effects, not knowing those effects changed the industry for their time.

Sigh....

[japtor]

So I started reading that Microsoft leaked document... and I left more confused than I already was =/

If the tech and gamer world loves it while normal people are confused by it...it has a decent chance of bombing.

Exactly. My little cousins laugh at nes and SNES games because they were only 6 when the PS3 and 360 came out. They have no appreciation for old school games And write them off right away because "lol the Grafix!". Most of the gamers here are old enough to remember the NES or played it at some time. The teenagers of today who buy the dudebro games have no appreciation for 2D games or sprite based games. Granted, this doesn't apply to all of them but still....sad to see. It's like today's kids watching the original three star wars films and hating on them because of cheesy special effects, not knowing those effects changed the industry for their time. Sigh....

You have yourself and their parents to blame! My nephew watched the original Star Wars films early on and I introduced him to a lot of older games, with the help of Virtual Console on Wii actually. Hell we were playing River City Ransom last time he was over.

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

I'm sorry, I guess I must be out of the loop or something, but how is it different than the red coins?

The red coins spawn all at once and have a time limit to collect all 8, the green ones spawn one at a time and have a time limit for each.

[AJSousuke]

EDIT: For what it's worth, I think P-100 has an excellent style and I don't really see why anybody would have a problem with it.

well, i totally hate that art style =/

kinda remind me of this graphics

[RedSwirl]

Good lord what exactly? it's like zooming on Company of Heroes characters and expecting CoD level graphics.

A better comparison would probably be to Total War, or maybe StarCraft II.

[ShockingAlberto]

It's never fun delivering bad news

So I'm going to make it fun

Guess what bad news about the Wii U I heard today and, provided you want it, you get a Steam code for Bastion! If you don't want it, it will go to the next person that guessed correctly, etc.

A big publisher cancelled an unannounced game for the Wii U. Guess the publisher and the reason and you win!

[Firest0rm]

thq cancelled a game for Wii u because of the new chiefs direction?

[schuelma]

It's never fun delivering bad news So I'm going to make it fun Guess what bad news about the Wii U I heard today and, provided you want it, you get a Steam code for Bastion! If you don't want it, it will go to the next person that guessed correctly, etc. A big publisher cancelled an unannounced game for the Wii U. Guess the publisher and the reason and you win!

Do you ever have any good Wii U news?

I was going to guess Sega cancelled a Sonic game, but I couldn't think of a good reason.

Edit- I think Firestorm is on to something. THQ cancelled Homefront 2 because Wii U is for kiddies.

[radcliff]

It's never fun delivering bad news So I'm going to make it fun Guess what bad news about the Wii U I heard today and, provided you want it, you get a Steam code for Bastion! If you don't want it, it will go to the next person that guessed correctly, etc. A big publisher cancelled an unannounced game for the Wii U. Guess the publisher and the reason and you win!

Konami, because its Konami on a Nintendo console

[TriGen]

It's never fun delivering bad news So I'm going to make it fun Guess what bad news about the Wii U I heard today and, provided you want it, you get a Steam code for Bastion! If you don't want it, it will go to the next person that guessed correctly, etc. A big publisher cancelled an unannounced game for the Wii U. Guess the publisher and the reason and you win!

Konami, because it wanted to create something "unique" that could take advantage of the Wii U, in other words they want to wait and see how it sells.

[radcliff]

Was the game a Wii U exclusive or multiplatform title?

[lordfroakie]

It's never fun delivering bad news So I'm going to make it fun Guess what bad news about the Wii U I heard today and, provided you want it, you get a Steam code for Bastion! If you don't want it, it will go to the next person that guessed correctly, etc. A big publisher cancelled an unannounced game for the Wii U. Guess the publisher and the reason and you win!

Sega cause they're going digital.

[ShockingAlberto]

No one right on any count yet.

[radcliff]

Activision canceled the Bond game because Shiggy spilled the beans.

[lordfroakie]

No one right on any count yet.

EA. They're making something for smartglass instead.

[schuelma]

No one right on any count yet.

I'm really struggling with a good reason, given the system is 5 months away from even releasing. Makes it harder to find the justification.

Can we play 20 questions or something.

[TriGen]

Square Enix. Their focusing their future efforts on real next-gen platforms, so a cancelled Crystal Chronicles game.

[HanShotFirst]

Was it announced yet or do we not know it existed?

[Red UFO]

That Aliens game has been cancelled.

[schuelma]

This isn't very fun :( Maybe some day Alberto will make us guess at a huge new Wii U exclusive.

[ShockingAlberto]

Western third party.

Was multi-platform.

Pretty good reason it hasn't been announced yet.

Was not cancelled for technical reasons.

[Red UFO]

Black Ops 2 wii u edition.

[schuelma]

Western third party. Was multi-platform. Pretty good reason it hasn't been announced yet. Was not cancelled for technical reasons.

Hmm...

I doubt it would be Ubisoft, though it is certainly possible.

Activision..CoD and Skylanders are just no brainers.

EA?

[TriGen]

The PCF GoW game. Microsoft's money stopped Nintendo.

[Firest0rm]

gta5 by rockstar cancelled because of kiddy factor?

[AJSousuke]

The game itself was unannounced or just the Wii U version?

So.. "big PUBLISHER" eh?

Activision?
Reason: Lack of on-line support

[ShockingAlberto]

The publisher has been mentioned since the last time I said no one has guessed right.

[radcliff]

Rockstar- not enough time to make Wii U version of GTA V

[schuelma]

The publisher has been mentioned since the last time I said no one has guessed right.

EA. Reason? Uhh..lack of online plans from Nintendo?

[AniHawk]

Western third party. Was multi-platform. Pretty good reason it hasn't been announced yet. Was not cancelled for technical reasons.

ubisoft canceled beyond good & evil 2 because they fired michel ancel

[Red UFO]

GUITAR HERO 6, OR 7, WHATEVER IT IS.

[TriGen]

Activision because they don't like Nintendo's online filtering system. People should be allowed to speak/post there minds while playing CoD!

[ShockingAlberto]

Alright, gonna narrow it down further.

It was EA.

Reason has not been said. Guess it to win Bastion!

[schuelma]

I guessed EA twice! Ha ha!

The reason is what has me stumped, honestly. Bean counters don't think there is an audience? (I assume its Dead Space 3 or something like that).

[AJSousuke]

Its was battlefield 3, so the reason is that it's already an old game

[radcliff]

Cancelled Madden 13- Wii U release in Nov but Madden releases in Aug- figure most will buy on PS3/X360 in Aug

[ShockingAlberto]

I guessed EA twice! Ha ha! The reason is what has me stumped, honestly. Bean counters don't think there is an audience? (I assume its Dead Space 3 or something like that).

Schulema wins.

A PS4/720/PC project was cancelled before it even got to the realm of "Can we do this with the tech?" Amid worries about stock, they're reconsidering where really expensive projects go.

It was being made on Frostbite, however, which has been successfully ported to the Wii U.

Should I PM you your Bastion code?

[AniHawk]

OH SHIT

YOU MEAN MIRROR'S EDGE 2 WAS CANCELED!?!

edit: oh, it was just canceled for wii u.

[TriGen]

Alright, gonna narrow it down further. It was EA. Reason has not been said. Guess it to win Bastion!

They felt like Nintendo wasn't being fair to third-parties and didn't want to go up against Nintendo's games. Their plans didn't conicide well with the timing of the Wii U's launch release date. They didn't like the idea of digital download day 1.

[schuelma]

Schulema wins. A PS4/720/PC project was cancelled before it even got to the realm of "Can we do this with the tech?" Amid worries about stock, they're reconsidering where really expensive projects go. It was being made on Frostbite, however, which has been successfully ported to the Wii U. Should I PM you your Bastion code?

Sure, thanks a lot.

Does not bode well for future support.

[TriGen]

Schulema wins. A PS4/720/PC project was cancelled before it even got to the realm of "Can we do this with the tech?" Amid worries about stock, they're reconsidering where really expensive projects go. It was being made on Frostbite, however, which has been successfully ported to the Wii U. Should I PM you your Bastion code?

Ah so it got canned because they simply didn't have faith in the Wii U, not a good sign.

[AniHawk]

Schulema wins. A PS4/720/PC project was cancelled before it even got to the realm of "Can we do this with the tech?" Amid worries about stock, they're reconsidering where really expensive projects go. It was being made on Frostbite, however, which has been successfully ported to the Wii U. Should I PM you your Bastion code?

yeah so publishers are still taking a wait and see approach. not much has changed in the last 5 months, i see.

with ea leading the way, others will quickly follow. funny- i thought they were itching for a new stream of revenue last gen. although to be fair, nintendo hasn't given anyone a whole lot of reason to have faith in them recently.

[Instro]

Schulema wins. A PS4/720/PC project was cancelled before it even got to the realm of "Can we do this with the tech?" Amid worries about stock, they're reconsidering where really expensive projects go. It was being made on Frostbite, however, which has been successfully ported to the Wii U. Should I PM you your Bastion code?

So the whole project was canned, or just the WiiU version?

[ShockingAlberto]

So the whole project was canned, or just the WiiU version?

Just the Wii U version.

[AJSousuke]

Ah so it got canned because they simply didn't have faith in the Wii U, not a good sign.

It sounds more as they had no faith in the project itself.

Am i reading it wrong?

"A PS4/720/PC project was cancelled before it even got to the realm of "Can we do this with the tech?" Amid worries about stock, they're reconsidering where really expensive projects go."

Is it referring to PS4/720 tech or the Wii U?

Edit: oh thats a shame :(

[schuelma]

yeah so publishers are still taking a wait and see approach. not much has changed in the last 5 months, i see. with ea leading the way, others will quickly follow. funny- i thought they were itching for a new stream of revenue last gen. although to be fair, nintendo hasn't given anyone a whole lot of reason to have faith in them recently.

Just going through the major Western 3rd parties, only Ubisoft seems somewhat on board, and its not like they are a sure bet for the next few years given that Watch Dogs isn't even a sure thing for the system.

Nintendo *might* do ok with Japanese 3rd parties, but right now there isn't much evidence to support that proposition either.

[AniHawk]

It sounds more as they had no faith in the project itself. Am i reading it wrong? "A PS4/720/PC project was cancelled before it even got to the realm of "Can we do this with the tech?" Amid worries about stock, they're reconsidering where really expensive projects go." Is it referring to PS4/720 tech or the Wii U?

wii u