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one of the better moments was the cutaway to SAS while Cuban went into Skip. he seemed to be enjoying himself -

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I could watch this all day.
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I just realized with Shane Battier and Eddy Curry getting championship rings, the 2001 NBA draft class is full of champions in the top ten. So the real question when is Kwame Brown getting his ring. lol
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Originally Posted by h3ro: View Post
lol Wade's got that "If you shake hands with Kobe you're sleeping on the couch tonight" look
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Originally Posted by benjipwns: View Post
Cuban destroying Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith is maybe the best thing ever. Although it won't mean anything, as Smith explained. They're openly incompetent, it's impossible to understand what happens during games and they get 45 seconds to a minute on a subject.
As Stephen A. said, how much knowledge did he possess before he owned the team and had stat geeks working for him.

Although the Cuban backlash was cool on the surface, nobody cares as much about Xs and Os of the NBA as they do the NFL. And besides, ESPN does a damn good job of respresenting the NFL. Ins/Outs and playcalling.

Maybe the NBA could use some polish, but by saying ALL MEDIA blah blah blah, he just comes off as a scorn ass because he was flat out wrong.
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Originally Posted by jordan0386: View Post
As Stephen A. said, how much knowledge did he possess before he owned the team and had stat geeks working for him.

Although the Cuban backlash was cool on the surface, nobody cares as much about Xs and Os of the NBA as they do the NFL. And besides, ESPN does a damn good job of respresenting the NFL. Ins/Outs and playcalling.

Maybe the NBA could use some polish, but by saying ALL MEDIA blah blah blah, he just comes off as a scorn ass because he was flat out wrong.
I was extremely pissed that Stephen A. stood there and didn't point this all out until after Cuban was gone.
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Yeah like Izzy said, did the Mavericks really actually want Barea on him?

That video is appearing all over my facebook like jizz on hunter's face....and it's stupid because of blind love for mark cuban. I fucking LOL when he said "I was just being me, I didn't 'stay out of the spotlight'" referring to last season when he didn't complain
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Damn it! I just heard about the tickets to get into the private celebration inside the AAA. They went up on Ticketmaster 2 hours ago and they're all gone already.

Bastards are selling them on craigslist like they're tickets to a game, $100+ for lower sections, and they were fucking FREE!
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Originally Posted by ph33nix: View Post
You're more delusional than ice basketball raven reasons and you lie more than Smokey and that's saying a lot.
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heat are champs*, congrats.
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Originally Posted by jordan0386: View Post
As Stephen A. said, how much knowledge did he possess before he owned the team and had stat geeks working for him.
I think a lot of people here could tell you some of the stuff Cuban was talking about.

There are fans who do this stuff regularly for free.
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Maybe the NBA could use some polish, but by saying ALL MEDIA blah blah blah, he just comes off as a scorn ass because he was flat out wrong.
I'd reckon he was pretty much just talking about the NBA centric media when he said "ALL MEDIA" considering the context of his remarks and how he spends his time.

But if he's said otherwise that's my fault.
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I get everybody loves to hate on skip and as a Heat fan he is ridiculous but Cuban was really condescending, saying his kid could drop more knowledge on them. I would love for one of the actual NBA analysts, not reporters or journalists, to give him an education

mark's just a big baby who has a lot of money
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Originally Posted by ph33nix: View Post
I get everybody loves to hate on skip and as a Heat fan he is ridiculous but Cuban was really condescending, saying his kid could drop more knowledge on them. I would love for one of the actual NBA analysts, not reporters or journalists, to give him an education

mark's just a big baby who has a lot of money
So Cuban's kid vs. Magic?
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Originally Posted by benjipwns: View Post
So Cuban's kid vs. Magic?
That would be interesting to say the least
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Originally Posted by ph33nix: View Post
I get everybody loves to hate on skip and as a Heat fan he is ridiculous but Cuban was really condescending, saying his kid could drop more knowledge on them. I would love for one of the actual NBA analysts, not reporters or journalists, to give him an education

mark's just a big baby who has a lot of money
Its wild because, ESPN has their Xs and Os people. Who get plenty of air time.

Cuban is still salty nobody cares about his ring.

Im happy SAS owned him with the Odom jab.
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Originally Posted by MetalFearSolid: View Post
I just realized with Shane Battier and Eddy Curry getting championship rings, the 2001 NBA draft class is full of champions in the top ten. So the real question when is Kwame Brown getting his ring. lol
He's a FA, the Heat went after him during the offseason last summer, expect them to do it again.
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Originally Posted by CherryWoodFuton: View Post
Who's bright idea was it to do it on a Monday???

Heat Culture amirite???
It's only right that they give their fans an opportunity to not show up.
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Originally Posted by ph33nix: View Post
You're more delusional than ice basketball raven reasons and you lie more than Smokey and that's saying a lot.
Dude I lie? In the 2k League I was your tormentor. Don't get brave because I've been playing more single player and indie pc games instead of killing your teeth through the back of your head. Those dark days could easily return son.
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I'll just come out and say that I hate Lebron James and I think it was one of the most tragic days in sports when the Heat won their championship (Sorry Heat fans)... BUT, the owning Skip Bayless has gotten over the last couple of days is PRICELESS.

This may be old in this thread but check out Mark Cuban absolutely destroy Skip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv2jq...feature=relmfu

And before then, Stephen A Smith gets into it with Skip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A-KYoKTBJs (the scene at 42 secs is awesome)

Soo good!
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Originally Posted by charsace: View Post
Dude I lie?
Originally Posted by charsace: View Post
In the 2k League I was your tormentor
Yes.
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Back from ban. Congrats to Lebron for playing like a man and finally showing heart. Congrats to the cool dudes from Heat-age. Lebron showed a lot of maturity and earned my respect. Can't hate a dude that plays like that.


Wade can still blow out his knees for being a horrible person though. He is a good player but yeah I want to punch him.
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Originally Posted by ph33nix: View Post
I get everybody loves to hate on skip and as a Heat fan he is ridiculous but Cuban was really condescending, saying his kid could drop more knowledge on them. I would love for one of the actual NBA analysts, not reporters or journalists, to give him an education

mark's just a big baby who has a lot of money
Except that Cuban does actually know how to analyze basketball. He's infatuated with it.


That said, I thought Skip was right on one part in that Lebron mentally checked out last Finals and Cuban didn't accept any of that. But he was right that it was unfair to not credit the Mavs at all for it. It was a combo of the two.

Cuban's main point, however, that the media is a bunch of blowhards to write shit just for to stir up shit for entertainment and most of it means nothing, is true. I think Lebron was a bit of an exception last season, since he even admitted it, that he listened to the critics. 99% of the time, players don't give a fuck what is said about them if it's not personal (like family or something).

And I loved that someone finally called out the "they played harder" or "wanted it more" bullshit. I hate when someone says a team wanted it more and that's why they won. Regular season, sure it happens. NBA Finals? Give me a fucking break.
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Originally Posted by CaptYamato: View Post

Wade can still blow out his knees for being a horrible person though. He is a good player but yeah I want to punch him.
That's some bitch-made shit right there. SMDH...
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Originally Posted by Black Mamba: View Post
Except that Cuban does actually know how to analyze basketball. He's infatuated with it.


That said, I thought Skip was right on one part in that Lebron mentally checked out last Finals and Cuban didn't accept any of that. But he was right that it was unfair to not credit the Mavs at all for it. It was a combo of the two.

Cuban's main point, however, that the media is a bunch of blowhards to write shit just for to stir up shit for entertainment and most of it means nothing, is true. I think Lebron was a bit of an exception last season, since he even admitted it, that he listened to the critics. 99% of the time, players don't give a fuck what is said about them if it's not personal (like family or something).

And I loved that someone finally called out the "they played harder" or "wanted it more" bullshit. I hate when someone says a team wanted it more and that's why they won. Regular season, sure it happens. NBA Finals? Give me a fucking break.
The Mavs had a lot to do with Bron checking out though. They cut off his lane and never let him get in like he usually does. Forcing him to shoot those horrible jumpers. They also had players that were not afraid of getting in front of Lebron either. Skips just thinks Lebron chose to shoot those jumpers.
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Originally Posted by CaptYamato: View Post
The Mavs had a lot to do with Bron checking out though. They cut off his lane and never let him get in like he usually does. Forcing him to shoot those horrible jumpers. They also had players that were not afraid of getting in front of Lebron either. Skips just thinks Lebron chose to shoot those jumpers.
Which is why I said it's both. Dallas affected him. Lebron then checked out and didn't shoot, period. Played hot potato often.
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I hate the shit about wanting it more or playing harder stuff too, especially in the finals.
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Originally Posted by jordan0386: View Post
Its wild because, ESPN has their Xs and Os people. Who get plenty of air time.

Cuban is still salty nobody cares about his ring.

Im happy SAS owned him with the Odom jab.
WHO THE FUCK COULD YOU POSSIBLY BE TALKING ABOUT
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Originally Posted by DY_nasty: View Post
WHO THE FUCK COULD YOU POSSIBLY BE TALKING ABOUT
NFL analysts apparently, maybe I read him wrong.
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Originally Posted by DY_nasty: View Post
WHO THE FUCK COULD YOU POSSIBLY BE TALKING ABOUT
Great basketball minds like Kurt Rambis, who I heard on ESPN Radio this morning, talking about adjustments Scott Brooks should have made. He then followed that up by admitting he didn't know Eric Maynor's name.
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Originally Posted by DY_nasty: View Post
WHO THE FUCK COULD YOU POSSIBLY BE TALKING ABOUT
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Originally Posted by DY_nasty: View Post
WHO THE FUCK COULD YOU POSSIBLY BE TALKING ABOUT
Jaworski I guess?
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It certainly was during years 2 and 3 of the 3peat. You could have put Vince Carter or Tracy McGrady on those teams and they would have chipped.
If you think Vince fucking Carter or T-Mac would have drawn that pivotal late Game 6 foul against Bibby, you're sorely mistaken.

Without Kobe stepping up and taking the hard hit from Bibby's forehead, that series is over.
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Originally Posted by DY_nasty: View Post
WHO THE FUCK COULD YOU POSSIBLY BE TALKING ABOUT
That show numbers don't lie doesn't even use numbers half the time.

It's ridiculous. Call that crap "first take II the rookie years"
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Ninja Scooter, who else is joining Dream Team '99 in LA?

PG T-Mac
SG Kobe
SF VC
PF KG
C Duncan?
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One of the best side effects of this finals win is that I finally think people are coming around to see through Skip Bayless' shtick. Love or hate Lebron, I don't understand how anyone could watch Skip's show and think that he's being rational. The way people perceive Fox News should be the way people perceive Skip to present an extreme example.
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Originally Posted by peterb0y: View Post
One of the best side effects of this finals win is that I finally think people are coming around to see through Skip Bayless' shtick. Love or hate Lebron, I don't understand how anyone could watch Skip's show and think that he's being rational. The way people perceive Fox News should be the way people perceive Skip to present an extreme example.
The ratings for First Take aren't bad at all.
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Originally Posted by peterb0y: View Post
One of the best side effects of this finals win is that I finally think people are coming around to see through Skip Bayless' shtick. Love or hate Lebron, I don't understand how anyone could watch Skip's show and think that he's being rational. The way people perceive Fox News should be the way people perceive Skip to present an extreme example.
What you're missing is that ESPN mostly provides the X's and O's. Skip's an outlier.
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Originally Posted by bjb: View Post
The ratings for First Take aren't bad at all.
Fox news gets good ratings too
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Originally Posted by CherryWoodFuton: View Post
Who's bright idea was it to do it on a Monday???

Heat Culture amirite???
I don't think Micky planned ahead for the parade. I think he waited until we won it, then they had no choice but to make it Monday. The weekend costs extra. The problem is it's likely to rain Monday. I'll still be there though. PEACE.
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Originally Posted by Pimpwerx: View Post
I don't think Micky planned ahead for the parade. I think he waited until we won it, then they had no choice but to make it Monday. The weekend costs extra. The problem is it's likely to rain Monday. I'll still be there though. PEACE.
Women are gonna be wearing white I hope :)
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Originally Posted by CherryWoodFuton: View Post
Women are gonna be wearing white I hope :)
you still never posted pictures of hot, safe for work miami women pictures!
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Originally Posted by DY_nasty: View Post
WHO THE FUCK COULD YOU POSSIBLY BE TALKING ABOUT
Legs, Rose, Bowen.
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you still never posted pictures of hot, safe for work miami women pictures!
I was wasteddddd and pics are blurry as fuck....i'll def take some at the parade and post it I promise
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Pictures of pictures?
23:6 KJV
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Originally Posted by jordan0386: View Post
As Stephen A. said, how much knowledge did he possess before he owned the team and had stat geeks working for him.
"How much of this subject did he know before he learned anything about this subject?"

I mean, really?
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somehow this wasn't satisfying in any way.
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Originally Posted by 23:6 KJV: View Post
"How much of this subject did he know before he learned anything about this subject?"

I mean, really?
What he's really saying is how much did Mark know about what the Mavs were doing unless they were telling him?

Like I said, if Mark claims he and his 2 1/2 year old son can analyze just as well, then I'd like to see how smart he sounds when he tries to analyze the intricacies of what other teams do.
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Originally Posted by ph33nix: View Post
What he's really saying is how much did Mark know about what the Mavs were doing unless they were telling him?

Like I said, if Mark claims he and his 2 1/2 year old son can analyze just as well, then I'd like to see how smart he sounds when he tries to analyze the intricacies of what other teams do.
I don't know, that's still kind of silly. It's like saying "well you didn't know algebra until your math teacher taught you it".

I mean, no shit. Gotta learn from someone.

Why hasn't Skip, who is theoretically meant to be analyzing this sport for us, gone and learned it from someone else too? It's laughable.
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Originally Posted by 23:6 KJV: View Post
I don't know, that's still kind of silly. It's like saying "well you didn't know algebra until your math teacher taught you it".

I mean, no shit. Gotta learn from someone.

Why hasn't Skip, who is theoretically meant to be analyzing this sport for us, gone and learned it from someone else too? It's laughable.
The accusation is more about whether he learned anything at all: is Cuban really just parroting shit he was told by others. Typical executive behavior, so wouldn't be surprising.
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Weather for weekend in Miami



Probably best parade is on Monday.
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Originally Posted by Byakuya769: View Post
The accusation is more about whether he learned anything at all: is Cuban really just parroting shit he was told by others. Typical executive behavior, so wouldn't be surprising.
And it still trumps Skip so why the fuck are we even on this...