benjipwns
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(06-25-2012, 11:41 PM)

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Originally Posted by CrazyDogg77: View Post
Oh ok I thought if he retired because of injury he would still collect his money.
He does, it's about getting him off the cap/luxury tax. For that the league assigned doctor has to agree he retired due to injury. And they don't get the relief until after next season.
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he will get owed the money and it won't come off the books

he wold have to be nice enough to negotiate a buyout..
They can amnesty him.
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Originally Posted by benjipwns: View Post
He does, it's about getting him off the cap/luxury tax. For that the league assigned doctor has to agree he retired due to injury. And they don't get the relief until after next season.

They can amnesty him.
I would rather not waste that amnesty

Are we allowed to buy him out and then have him retire? Cause we could then use the amnesty on Joel Anthony's 3.5 million contract (seriously what the fuck)
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Originally Posted by ph33nix: View Post
I would rather not waste that amnesty

Are we allowed to buy him out and then have him retire? Cause we could then use the amnesty on Joel Anthony's 3.5 million contract (seriously what the fuck)
Really? lol.
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Are we allowed to buy him out and then have him retire?
Yeah. A buy-out is the best option because it doesn't matter if he does come back then.
Blackace
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Originally Posted by Blondie: View Post
This is pretty dope:

Heat turn 'secret' trophy into championship gold.

"That was, I think, a powerful moment for the team, not for anybody else. And it was something that we referred back to a lot of times during the tough times, and we saw our names. We signed our names to guarantee we would bring those things to the table. And when we weren't, that trophy would come out and we would remind ourselves we signed our name and were not being true to that."

"It was very meaningful to us, Spo coming to the first playoff meeting before the Knicks series and there's a box," James said. "We had no idea what was in it and he pulls out a trophy, this black trophy with all our names on it. He basically said that we need to recommit ourselves right now."

With each of the required 16 playoff victories, a victory notch was added, the final one coming as Thursday turned to Friday and championship hope turned to championship euphoria.

"We had to see 16 of those notches before we could even get happy," Wade said. "In the locker room, we put that last notch on there, everybody started screaming, and yelling."




The black trophy, and what it meant for the Heat.

“The black trophy,” Spoelstra said.

It was the Larry O’Brien Trophy, made to scale, if a bit lighter. And it was a secret. From the trainers. From management. From Riley. From the media. From anyone outside the locker room.

It was introduced just prior to the playoffs.


“It was a covenant that we made to each other,” Spoelstra said. “The coaching staff and the players. That we would commit to a handful of things each, and we would say them in front of each other. And if we didn’t do those things, we would not have a real opportunity to win and play for the title."

Chris Bosh said Spoelstra explained “the promise we need to make to each other, to have 16 gold marks on that trophy. It was pretty much a pact to stay together no matter what happens.”

Bosh called it “kind of heavy when you write your name on something, and it’s officially a contract. We were pretty much giving our words to say we would stay together when times get tough.”

Bosh took it seriously enough “that I didn’t put my autograph on it, I put my signature.”

After the championship was won, and the real trophy had been hoisted, Spoelstra still gave attention to the replica.

“To make that 16th mark, it was an unbelievable moment,” LeBron James said.
it really isn't that dope...
alr1ght
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Originally Posted by alr1ghtstart: View Post
Yep, that's exactly what I thought of when I saw that article.
Blackace
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(06-26-2012, 01:14 AM)

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Thought Pat Riley did something like that in 2006...
benjipwns
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Thought Pat Riley did something like that in 2006...
The "mystery bowl" thing: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...ilydime-060621
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Originally Posted by benjipwns: View Post
"Every game we came closer and closer and put more and more stuff in," Gary Payton said. "We brought a wheelbarrow in to put stuff in because he gave us a story about trusting people and pushing a wheelbarrow across a tightrope. He's a great motivator. He did what he was supposed to do. He got us to play the way we were supposed to play, and we stuck together."

The wheelbarrow tale that Riley told the team was believed to be this: In 1859 the Great Blondin, the man who invented the high-wire act, announced to the world that he intended to cross Niagara Falls on a tightrope. As the story goes, 5,000 people gathered to watch. Halfway across, Blondin suddenly stopped, steadied himself, backflipped into the air, landed squarely on the rope, and then continued safely to the other side. Just as he was about to begin yet another crossing, this time pushing a wheelbarrow, he turned to the crowd and shouted, "Who believes that I can cross pushing this wheelbarrow?" Every hand in the crowd went up. Blondin pointed at one man. "Do you believe that I can do it?" he asked. "Yes, I believe you can," said the man. "Are you certain?" Blondin asked.

"Yes," said the man. "Absolutely certain?" "Yes, absolutely certain." "Thank you," said Blondin. "Then, sir, get into the wheelbarrow."
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(06-26-2012, 01:26 AM)

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Antoine brought south beach a ring before LeBron.

Never Forget.
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(06-26-2012, 01:29 AM)

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Spo acts like he is Pat's clone won't be surprised. He has been around him a long time
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(06-26-2012, 01:52 AM)

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Originally Posted by Sanjuro Tsubaki: View Post
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/PPfLN.jpg[/MG]

Antoine brought south beach a ring before LeBron.

Never Forget.
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Originally Posted by Blackace: View Post
it really isn't that dope...
Well I thought it was and the articles I posted of course referenced the 2006 bowl:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/m...0,753285.story

"We had to see 16 of those notches before we could even get happy," Wade said. "In the locker room, we put that last notch on there, everybody started screaming, and yelling."

For Wade it was not a particularly unique exercise. When the Heat won the 2006 NBA championship, Riley, then coach, filled a tub in the middle of the locker room with "15 Strong" cards, signifying the commitment needed from each player on the roster.

Last year, when the Heat fell to the Dallas Mavericks in the NBA Finals, there was nothing quite as tangible.

"If we did, it wasn't significant," Wade said. "It wasn't like this; it wasn't like '15 Strong.' I really don't remember us having anything last year."

This time it was a bond so tight, that it was not even exposed to Riley, who otherwise controls just about every aspect of the team's basketball operation.

"We didn't tell anybody," Spoelstra said. "We didn't tell the trainers. God bless you and I love you, but I didn't tell Pat. I didn't tell management."

The players appreciated the unique core of unity.

"I love Pat," Wade said, "but he's over there in that nice suit. So what Coach told us is this is just us."

From that first playoff meeting in April, it was 15 players and one trophy they hoped to turn into gold.


http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/heatz...-for-the-heat/

During the Heat’s 2006 championship postseason, Pat Riley had a bowl stuffed with “15 Strong” cards, featuring photos of the players and their families. That sat in the middle of the locker room in Miami, and was even brought to Dallas, its contents not revealed until the champagne flowed.

So what motivational trick did Erik Spoelstra spring for this run?

“The black trophy,” Spoelstra said.
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(06-26-2012, 02:30 AM)

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Spo really is Riley Jr
DY_nasty
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(06-26-2012, 02:36 AM)

Originally Posted by CherryWoodFuton: View Post
Spo really is Riley Jr
and nasa just landed a pig on mars
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(06-26-2012, 02:40 AM)

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Bobcats to win it all in 2013
CherryWoodFuton
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Originally Posted by DY_nasty: View Post
and nasa just landed a pig on mars
Still he's the greatest filipino NBA coach ever

Half filipino :(
linsivvi
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(06-26-2012, 03:23 AM)

Originally Posted by CherryWoodFuton: View Post
Spo really is Riley Jr
Not until he puts his head into ice water for a few minutes. No.
ph33nix
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Originally Posted by MiamiWesker: View Post
Really? lol.
I was wrong


3.6 million ;_;
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Originally Posted by Blondie: View Post
This is pretty dope:

Heat turn 'secret' trophy into championship gold.

"That was, I think, a powerful moment for the team, not for anybody else. And it was something that we referred back to a lot of times during the tough times, and we saw our names. We signed our names to guarantee we would bring those things to the table. And when we weren't, that trophy would come out and we would remind ourselves we signed our name and were not being true to that."

"It was very meaningful to us, Spo coming to the first playoff meeting before the Knicks series and there's a box," James said. "We had no idea what was in it and he pulls out a trophy, this black trophy with all our names on it. He basically said that we need to recommit ourselves right now."

With each of the required 16 playoff victories, a victory notch was added, the final one coming as Thursday turned to Friday and championship hope turned to championship euphoria.

"We had to see 16 of those notches before we could even get happy," Wade said. "In the locker room, we put that last notch on there, everybody started screaming, and yelling."




The black trophy, and what it meant for the Heat.

“The black trophy,” Spoelstra said.

It was the Larry O’Brien Trophy, made to scale, if a bit lighter. And it was a secret. From the trainers. From management. From Riley. From the media. From anyone outside the locker room.

It was introduced just prior to the playoffs.


“It was a covenant that we made to each other,” Spoelstra said. “The coaching staff and the players. That we would commit to a handful of things each, and we would say them in front of each other. And if we didn’t do those things, we would not have a real opportunity to win and play for the title."

Chris Bosh said Spoelstra explained “the promise we need to make to each other, to have 16 gold marks on that trophy. It was pretty much a pact to stay together no matter what happens.”

Bosh called it “kind of heavy when you write your name on something, and it’s officially a contract. We were pretty much giving our words to say we would stay together when times get tough.”

Bosh took it seriously enough “that I didn’t put my autograph on it, I put my signature.”

After the championship was won, and the real trophy had been hoisted, Spoelstra still gave attention to the replica.

“To make that 16th mark, it was an unbelievable moment,” LeBron James said.
Yep, I love it.
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Originally Posted by Sanjuro Tsubaki: View Post


Antoine brought south beach a ring before LeBron.

Never Forget.
Those Heat jerseys were so much better. In fact IMO the NBA jerseys were much superior around 98-2004.
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(06-26-2012, 04:34 PM)

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Spo channels Riley hard... But I love the name Philipino Jackson lol.
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Quote:
Bosh called it “kind of heavy when you write your name on something, and it’s officially a contract. We were pretty much giving our words to say we would stay together when times get tough.”

Bosh took it seriously enough “that I didn’t put my autograph on it, I put my signature.”
I may never not hate Bosh.
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sorry about your dog.
commish
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sorry about your dog.
The dog ate his french fry so...
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Houston apparently wants to trade 14 16 18 and a top 10 pick (would be acquired from trading Lowry) to the Magic for Howard.
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/sto...ts-sources-say
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Originally Posted by balddemon: View Post
Houston apparently wants to trade 14 16 18 and a top 10 pick (would be acquired from trading Lowry) to the Magic for Howard.
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/sto...ts-sources-say

Sorry, but...



Lowry
Mamba
Ebanks
Pau
Dwight



...is already a lock.
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(06-26-2012, 08:02 PM)

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Damn... Micky arison just said the heat have lost 100s of millions of dollars since their inception, and the Lebron year was the first year they turned a profit... What an owner...
Blackace
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Originally Posted by peterb0y: View Post
Spo channels Riley hard... But I love the name Philipino Jackson lol.
how do you channel someone who basically tells you how to dress?
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Originally Posted by peterb0y: View Post
Damn... Micky arison just said the heat have lost 100s of millions of dollars since their inception, and the Lebron year was the first year they turned a profit... What an owner...
What a shitty fanbase.
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What a shitty fanbase.
Yeah because thats what costs millions of dollars...
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Best Basketball podcasts, please?

Clearly they're all going to be dominated by one thing at the moment - Free Agency... but Hey!
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Originally Posted by Chriswok: View Post
Best Basketball podcasts, please?

Clearly they're all going to be dominated by one thing at the moment - Free Agency... but Hey!
Jalen Rose
TBJ
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Originally Posted by Chriswok: View Post
Best Basketball podcasts, please?

Clearly they're all going to be dominated by one thing at the moment - Free Agency... but Hey!
http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/
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Thanks for those :)