LordCanti
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#2351

Originally Posted by Totakeke: View Post
Repair costs increase will only make the poor poorer really.
Pretty much. Thinking about it, it seems more like a DH nerf than anything else. What other class (other than WD maybe) dies enough to care?

You're right though. People with millions of gold will write it off as opportunity cost, and everyone else will suffer because they're being penalized even further for dying.
sleepykyo
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#2352

Originally Posted by eek5: View Post
Both.

A2 can drop up to 800-850 dps 1H if you get godly rolls. Getting your dex up higher will help with your defense/dps at the same time though.

edit:
You can have one of these if you want:

Yes ple~ I might as well continue to suffer. Learning experience. I really should have had a mf set to switch into toward the end of each elite pack.
Alex
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#2353

The repair cost increase seems extremely stupid to me. Demon Hunters die a lot, but so does everyone who is hitting that wall and taking that kind of cash away from struggling melee who need to spend it on gear to scrape by isn't going to exactly aid them.

We'll see just how the balancing of other things works in conjunction with it, I suppose. All I know is that after the last session I just want their blurb about monsters kiting melee less to pan out. STOP RUNNING. Fucking AI guy must be a Resto Druid in WoW.
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cpp_is_king
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#2354

Originally Posted by LordCanti: View Post
Pretty much. Thinking about it, it seems more like a DH nerf than anything else. What other class (other than WD maybe) dies enough to care?

You're right though. People with millions of gold will write it off as opportunity cost, and everyone else will suffer because they're being penalized even further for dying.
You forget that enemy dps output and overall health is going down. And that survivability builds will become more viable as dh. if anything, that's a DH BUFF, they are making it so that you don't have to die.

Same with other classes. If the repair costs bother you, go to an earlier act. You'll still get good drops. I personally think the repair cost increase is a great solution to the problem.
Vincent Alexander
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#2355

Originally Posted by Alex: View Post
The repair cost increase seems extremely stupid to me. Demon Hunters die a lot, but so does everyone who is hitting that wall and taking that kind of cash away from struggling melee who need to spend it on gear to scrape by isn't going to exactly aid them.

We'll see just how the balancing of other things works in conjunction with it, I suppose.
I'm finally making it (slightly) through Act2 Inferno with my Wizard and I'm hardly making a profit with my repair costs. 97ms latency and still dying from miles away from enemies...I'm not looking forward to 30K+ repair costs because of shit hitboxes.
Neki
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#2356

Originally Posted by Ultimoo: View Post
Giveaway #2 (North American servers only!)

No tricks, no smoke, no mirrors. These are some decent weapons for fresh 60's, or Act 1 Inferno 60's that I'm donating because I have no use for them, and I'm sure gaffers would make better use of it than letting it rot in my stash. All of these items dropped from Act 3 Inferno+. :P



You can choose one item, and after time has expired, I will roll for each item. Meaning six people are getting new items! The more people who want a weapon, the less chance you'll have less of getting it.

All you need to do is PM your GAF name and battletag and the item you want and you'll be entered.

All winners will get a free Exalted Pallium Shoulders recipe, free of charge, courtesy of Artanisix

The raffle will end 5PM Mountain Time on June 15th (Friday).
Last quote of the day, 1 and a half days left before 6 weapons are given away!
sleepykyo
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#2357

Originally Posted by cpp_is_king: View Post
You forget that enemy dps output and overall health is going down. And that survivability builds will become more viable as dh. if anything, that's a DH BUFF, they are making it so that you don't have to die.

Same with other classes. If the repair costs bother you, go to an earlier act. You'll still get good drops. I personally think the repair cost increase is a great solution to the problem.
How would that work? If a DH could survive the hit, it probably isn't going to phase the melee classes. Seems kind of weird for them to nerf Inferno to that extent when it looks like they wanted it to be the biggest chore to begin with (invulnerable minions, pairing mortar with plague/electricity, 2 - 3 concurrent cc abilities with arcane).
Won
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#2358

Originally Posted by Totakeke: View Post
I have 25k hp, I can occasionally survive some hits in act 3, but even with DH with good defense I don't think it's much different. What are melee group members supposed to help me at? Maybe the players that I played with just suck.
With 25k HP you are the problem in the group. Back to Hell with you and get some gear.
RDreamer
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#2359

Really strange, the other day I was playing the first part of Act 3 Inferno a bit and doing quite well. I was partied with a wizard, and then a barb joined. We almost finished the first quest (well, we did, but my internet cut out when I was about to hit the damned torch). I was surviving and tanking quite well. Now I go to Act 3 and just bite it as quickly as I can think. I haven't changed a single thing, so I'm really confused.

Seems like the things that are doing it are the ranged shaman type dudes that throw fireballs. Not sure how that stuff is just raping me, though, since I have over 900 resists. I'm really kind of stumped as to where to go now with my gear. I'm not sure where I can improve except upping a bit of dex or vit here or there, or completely dumping any semblance of dps I have left.
Totakeke
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#2360

Originally Posted by Won: View Post
With 25k HP you are the problem in the group. Back to Hell with you and get some gear.
That's probably the most idiotic comeback you could have made. If you were going to question my defence, why didn't you ask my resist all and armor stats?

Either way that wasn't the point. A melee in general contributes few to nothing for demon hunters. I help kill their mobs a few times faster than they can themselves, otherwise why do they want to keep joining my games? Because I don't contribute anything? Don't make me laugh.
Treemonkeys
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#2361

I just got a blue 792 dps .95 attacks per second polearm. What do you think it would sell for on the gold ah and would it even sell on the rmah?
Fancy Corndog
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#2362

So in 10 years I'll be able to make a living playing video games. GAF will become a wealthy gentleman's club.

GAF -> Money -> GAF
Believe
LordCanti
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#2363

Originally Posted by Treemonkeys: View Post
I just got a blue 792 dps .95 attacks per second polearm. What do you think it would sell for on the gold ah and would it even sell on the rmah?
Two hander? Probably nothing.
Vincent Alexander
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#2364

My armor went from 2K to 5.5K. My resists are all around 600 now. And still I feel absolutely no difference.
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#2365

Hey guys, how much of the rare and legendary drops you think we haven't seen yet? I.E dropped? It would be interesting to see blizzard metrics on dropped loot
CarbonatedFalcon
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Originally Posted by Treemonkeys: View Post
I just got a blue 792 dps .95 attacks per second polearm. What do you think it would sell for on the gold ah and would it even sell on the rmah?
Kinda crap. The low number of attacks per second for polearms makes them suck compared to other weapon types. DPS isn't that high either. I don't know what I'd price that at.

Originally Posted by StateofMind: View Post
So in 10 years I'll be able to make a living playing video games. GAF will become a wealthy gentleman's club.

GAF -> Money -> GAF
Believe
GAF Gold, pls.
dragonflys545
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#2367



How much can I get with this item?
TheIronChancellor
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#2368

God I hate soul lasher champions/elites. Worst possible monster to get as an elite/champion, with the possible exception of spiderlings and those burrowing toads.
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#2369

Originally Posted by dragonflys545: View Post


How much can I get with this item?
$250 seems a fair price
red731
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#2370

Originally Posted by vaelic: View Post
Hey guys, how much of the rare and legendary drops you think we haven't seen yet? I.E dropped? It would be interesting to see blizzard metrics on dropped loot
I know this isn't answer to your question but I only found one legendary on my 60lvl monk.
I then created WD which isnow lvl41 and no luck with him too.

2chars - lvl60+41 = 1 legend, 0 set
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Originally Posted by red731: View Post
I know this isn't answer to your question but I only found one legendary on my 60lvl monk.
I then created WD which isnow lvl41 and no luck with him too.

2chars - lvl60+41 = 1 legend, 0 set
I've got 2 level 60s, 2 level 50ish, and a level 20. I've found 2 legendaries, both on the same day, when I was like level 26 with one of my dudes. They both sucked, and were low level crap.

Zero set items.
Hero
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#2372

Finally got a good drop after two nights of poop. What say you, GAF? Worth in gold/Blizzard Bucks?

soxinthebox
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#2373

Is there a way of filtering on set items in the AH? I had a look this morning just to see what exists but couldn't find how.
cpp_is_king
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I've found 1 set item and 4 legendaries (2 wands, one 2h crossbow, and some other shit I don't even remember). All 5 were shit.
red731
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#2375

Originally Posted by elrechazao: View Post
I've got 2 level 60s, 2 level 50ish, and a level 20. I've found 2 legendaries, both on the same day, when I was like level 26 with one of my dudes. They both sucked, and were low level crap.

Zero set items.
There is something strange going on..
Who we gonna call?
Woo-Fu
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#2376

The Loot Gods smiled upon me not once but twice today. What's the 2h crossbow market like?

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#2377

Originally Posted by Vincent Alexander: View Post
My armor went from 2K to 5.5K. My resists are all around 600 now. And still I feel absolutely no difference.
i get this too. I can finally roll butcher runs but still get OWNED in act II, with 31K hp, 25K dps (30K in bursts), 500 resists to all, and 6000 armor on my monk. I can't do a think to any elite mobs at the beginning of act II, and just normal mobs require me to pop all my cooldowns. Such a terrible leveling progression.
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#2378

Originally Posted by red731: View Post
There is something strange going on..
Who we gonna call?
My plan is to smash my keyboard through my TV, yoshistyle.
Hero
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#2379

Originally Posted by Woo-Fu: View Post
The Loot Gods smiled upon me not once but twice today. What's the 2h crossbow market like?

I'll give you a million gold for it. :D
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#2380

Originally Posted by soxinthebox: View Post
$250 seems a fair price
lol xD
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Hurray, got myself a 1177 DPS crossbow in Act 3. It's a blue one with only damage but eh, I can use it on my DH until i get something better. It's strange though, it's the second 1000 DPS+ DH I've gotten this week.

Nice thing is my Monk gear works on my DH too, 2000 IS too sexy.
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#2382

Originally Posted by Woo-Fu: View Post
The Loot Gods smiled upon me not once but twice today. What's the 2h crossbow market like?

Easily a 250 dollar item. Not a single wasted stat. I sold a worse rare 1k xbow for $200 today.
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GJS
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#2383

Originally Posted by thespot84: View Post
i get this too. I can finally roll butcher runs but still get OWNED in act II, with 31K hp, 25K dps (30K in burts), 500 resists to all, and 6000 armor on my monk. I can't do a think to any elite mobs at the beginning of act II, and just normal mobs require me to pop all my cooldowns. Such a terrible leveling progression.
Do you have a source of constant health? You need something like LoH. I started soloing act 2 and hunting elites with lower resists and 6k buffed armour. It also helps to stack dps buffs and get dps close to 50k whenever the skill is available.
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#2384

Originally Posted by Woo-Fu: View Post
The Loot Gods smiled upon me not once but twice today. What's the 2h crossbow market like?

I sold something like that on the gold AH for 6m a few weeks ago. Except it had 0 DEX
red731
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#2385

Originally Posted by elrechazao: View Post
My plan is to smash my keyboard through my TV, yoshistyle.
I hope you will quit the game forever after that
/jk

But in all seriousness, this wasn't a problem in Diablo 2, where even without much or any MF you could get better drops...
thespot84
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Originally Posted by GJS: View Post
Do you have a source of constant health? You need something like LoH. I started soloing act 2 and hunting elites with lower resists and 6k buffed armour. It also helps to stack dps buffs and get dps close to 50k whenever the skill is available.
I have two 800 dps one handers each with 100+ dex, unbuffed I i'm 25k dps, with breath of light I'm at 28k, and then when i blind I'm at 31k.

LoH weaps are obviously crazy expensive. anything over 800 dps is crazy expensive. nothing will ever drop off the butcher that will get me there, so what option is there besides 100's of butcher runs? (i might kill myself if i have to do more). How'd you get there?
Drkirby
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I now have $29 Australian Blizzard Bucks.
thespot84
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Originally Posted by Drkirby: View Post
I now have $29 Australian Blizzard Bucks.
reminds me of space bucks from space balls
Junie12
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I'm finally at the point were I can farm gold in Act 1 Inferno quite easily, but it is so much slower than farming Act 1 Hell cause of the fucking mob combinations. Some combinations are so ridiculous it takes me more than 5 minutes to kill and with the repair costs taking away from my profits it's just not worth dealing with them >_<

I'm thinking of farming Act 4 Hell for gold since the Act is so short and my gold find gear is decent enough to speed through it.
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Originally Posted by thespot84: View Post
i get this too. I can finally roll butcher runs but still get OWNED in act II, with 31K hp, 25K dps (30K in bursts), 500 resists to all, and 6000 armor on my monk. I can't do a think to any elite mobs at the beginning of act II, and just normal mobs require me to pop all my cooldowns. Such a terrible leveling progression.
LoH or LpSS or some combination of both is what you need. Additionally, focus on evasion more than straight taking the damage if you have sufficient dex.
thespot84
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#2391

Originally Posted by Shouta: View Post
LoH or LpSS or some combination of both is what you need. Additionally, focus on evasion more than straight taking the damage if you have sufficient dex.
so in short...kite?
parasight
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Originally Posted by thespot84: View Post
so in short...kite?
Use doorways & corners. The environment is one of the best ways to avoid taking damage for Monk. Deadly Reach + doorways + Earth Ally is amazing.
Vincent Alexander
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#2393

Originally Posted by thespot84: View Post
i get this too. I can finally roll butcher runs but still get OWNED in act II, with 31K hp, 25K dps (30K in bursts), 500 resists to all, and 6000 armor on my monk. I can't do a think to any elite mobs at the beginning of act II, and just normal mobs require me to pop all my cooldowns. Such a terrible leveling progression.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm actually getting the farthest I've gotten in Act 2 now. A good quarter of the way through. I almost wish servers weren't shutting down. Don't want to lose this groove. Patience and luck are guiding me.

I hate how much I love this game that I hate.
thespot84
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#2394

Originally Posted by parasight: View Post
Use doorways & corners. The environment is one of the best ways to avoid taking damage for Monk. Deadly Reach + doorways + Earth Ally is amazing.
I'll mess around with it. Deadly reach never felt as good but the range is nice.

Also I just had a weap sell for 1.5m gold and battle.net goes down immediately afterwards. what a tease.
GJS
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Originally Posted by thespot84: View Post
I have two 800 dps one handers each with 100+ dex, unbuffed I i'm 25k dps, with breath of light I'm at 28k, and then when i blind I'm at 31k.

LoH weaps are obviously crazy expensive. anything over 800 dps is crazy expensive. nothing will ever drop off the butcher that will get me there, so what option is there besides 100's of butcher runs? (i might kill myself if i have to do more). How'd you get there?
I have two 700 dps weapons, one is a LoH weapon and one is socketed and I put a star amethyst in it. All I did to get them was carry on playing act 1 over and over, but obviously it all depends on getting a good AH deal, you just have to keep checking between playing.

The majority of the weapons on there do not sell now as they are overpriced and bidding starts too high. It might help to check d2jsp and the official trading forum.

I paid something like 700k for the socketed 700 dps wep, and I don't think I spent much more then a million on my 500 LoH weapon. I certainly won't be upgrading my weps to 800+ dps anytime soon as they are at prices where they are not selling, as the people who need them don't have that much gold yet.

Dps wise I am at 22k unbuffed, 25k with deadly reach buff, 29k with breath of heaven, and 48k with blinding flash. Before I started lowering my dex a little to stack more resist this was at 51k.
LordCanti
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#2396

You people getting crossbow drops...I hate all of you.

/salty
Ramirez
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(06-14-2012, 05:56 AM)

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#2397

Why are the servers shutting down?
Vincent Alexander
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Originally Posted by Ramirez: View Post
Why are the servers shutting down?
Hour long maint. Not sure if they've been more specific.
Lord-Audie
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I have been trying to sell rares forays legendaries with little luck for days.

I played (lol) a little of act 2 on a public match to try my luck. I got a i63 blue with 2 stats sex and vit for a cool mil without blizzard tax. ......


Can someone explain to me how this works.

And if someone has a +1k fist weapon to sell please let me know I'm in dire need of one.
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Originally Posted by thespot84: View Post
so in short...kite?
No, use Mantra of Evasion, Fists of Thunder - Lightning Flash, and raise your dex. You can straight tank using evasion rather than mitigation.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculato...igh!YXU!ZccZYc

is the build I use and I can faceroll Act 2 with stats just a tad higher than yours.

You can even adjust the build a little bit if you want but you want to maximize evasion and healing.