[Conrad Link]

Never, hopefully they rename it FFXV then we can.

Versus XIII was always a stupid name, now more than ever they can't allow something to suck the company dry so badly and for so long then risk not getting the attention it 'deserves' (whether its even good or not in the end).

As silly as it sounds, giving it a new number will help, people will just take more notice of it.

XIV was an initial disaster too but looks to be/should be pulling its weight soon, Versus will need to do the same.

[Flying_Phoenix]

That's one. Now let's list all the times the opposite has happened. I'm just saying the odds aren't really in its favor.

Yeah. I was about to edit my post because I was suppose to do a snarky comment but outside of those two games, Mother 3, and MAYBE Kameo (which is arguable) I can't think of any GOOD game in development hell.

[ZombiePlatypus]

Never, hopefully they rename it FFXV then we can. Versus XIII was always a stupid name, now more than ever they can't allow something to suck the company dry so badly and for so long then risk not getting the attention it 'deserves' (whether its even good or not in the end). As silly as it sounds, giving it a new number will help, people will just take more notice of it. XIV was an initial disaster too but looks to be/should be pulling its weight soon, Versus will need to do the same.

I honestly hope it doesn't happen. Shoehorning Versus as "FFXV" at the last moment feels like such a cop-out. We would be getting one less game. Let FFXV be a brand new, fresh project. Maybe it can build up on the Agni's Philosophy tech-demo. If anything, they can just drop the "XIII" and call Versus FFVersus. (Which still makes sense, since it's all about "going in an opposite direction" and what not.) Not that it even needs to though. SE's titles are always off the wall and pretentious. Doesn't stop the fans from eating up the games if they're good.


Anyway, I'm hoping Versus ends up getting a 2013 Japanese release and a 2014 Western one. I really, really, really hope it won't be any later than that.

[sonicmj1]

Yeah. I was about to edit my post because I was suppose to do a snarky comment but outside of those two games, Mother 3, and MAYBE Kameo (which is arguable) I can't think of any GOOD game in development hell.

Prey turned out alright, but I don't feel like that should count.

[Bladenic]

I'm thinking we won't. If we somehow do, there is no way in hell the "game" will be good enough to justify the 7-8 year wait.

[catashtrophe]

lol i dont think so

I dunno, IMO they must have spent a fortune on development by now and in order to recoup costs i think its gonna end up on anything and everything SE can port the game on.

Wouldn't suprise me if not only does it come to the 360 but later down the line a Wii-U version is announced.

[Femmeworth]

I'm hoping they fully unveil it before or during TGS and release it worldwide early 2013. >_>

[Thunder Monkey]

When it's called FFXV.

Yep.

I also think it's going to release on everything. Including whatever new systems are launching next year.

[Kyon]

I dunno, IMO they must have spent a fortune on development by now and in order to recoup costs i think its gonna end up on anything and everything SE can port the game on. Wouldn't suprise me if not only does it come to the 360 but later down the line a Wii-U version is announced.

it could happen of course. But from the evidence I've seen when Nomura is directing a game it is usually developed exclusively on said platform. KH for example never had multiple platform releases. Each game is usually using strengths from whatever platform its on. Just MY take on it. I've never seen his projects release on more than one platform simultaneously...ever. Unless someone can point me to a game that was o.o

[awaiken]

I honestly hope it doesn't happen. Shoehorning Versus as "FFXV" at the last moment feels like such a cop-out. We would be getting one less game. Let FFXV be a brand new, fresh project. Maybe it can build up on the Agni's Philosophy tech-demo. If anything, they can just drop the "XIII" and call Versus FFVersus. (Which still makes sense, since it's all about "going in an opposite direction" and what not.) Not that it even needs to though. SE's titles are always off the wall and pretentious. Doesn't stop the fans from eating up the games if they're good. Anyway, I'm hoping Versus ends up getting a 2013 Japanese release and a 2014 Western one. I really, really, really hope it won't be any later than that.

The last thing they need is to dilute the franchise by having any more spin offs.

It needs to be 15 because it's the right direction for the series as well. I don't think it's a cop out, in fact it would feel like a completely organic decision.

[Femmeworth]

No way are they going to change the name to XV, unless they completely cut out anything related to Fabula Nova Crystallis.

[Bladenic]

The thing is, is that I can't see this game being anywhere near as successful as it should be to justify its existence. A game of this caliber, budget, studio, and time in development should theoretically score in the mid and upper 90s and sell millions. I don't even see this scoring A 90 range based on SE track record this gen. On top of that, this game will not outsell FFXIII. It just won't. Especially on one platform.

Obviously if the game still does indeed exist they can't cancel it. But honestly I foresee this being the next Spirits Within in game form. Probably nowhere near that level of flop but a flop nonetheless.

[nelsonroyale]

The thing is, is that I can't see this game being anywhere near as successful as it should be to justify its existence. A game of this caliber, budget, studio, and time in development should theoretically score in the mid and upper 90s and sell millions. I don't even see this scoring A 90 range based on SE track record this gen. On top of that, this game will not outsell FFXIII. It just won't. Especially on one platform. Obviously if the game still does indeed exist they can't cancel it. But honestly I foresee this being the next Spirits Within in game form. Probably nowhere near that level of flop but a flop nonetheless.

Every bit of info released so far seems positive, except the actual game itself....its been absent for too long...what has been said is good, what has been shown, aside from a trailer over a year ago, is next to nothing....the silence is not a good sign.

[Thunder Monkey]

No way are they going to change the name to XV, unless they completely cut out anything related to Fabula Nova Crystallis.

We shall see respectable Samurai.

But I have my doubts.

[Cisce]

Seriously speaking: Why not make it it's own IP?

Sounds completely stupid, but it'd probably end up getting it far more recognition and respect than it would get as Versus XIII.

[ZombiePlatypus]

The thing is, is that I can't see this game being anywhere near as successful as it should be to justify its existence. A game of this caliber, budget, studio, and time in development should theoretically score in the mid and upper 90s and sell millions. I don't even see this scoring A 90 range based on SE track record this gen. On top of that, this game will not outsell FFXIII. It just won't. Especially on one platform. Obviously if the game still does indeed exist they can't cancel it. But honestly I foresee this being the next Spirits Within in game form. Probably nowhere near that level of flop but a flop nonetheless.

SE's track record may be pretty awful right now, but Nomura's is pretty damn good.

[Femmeworth]

Seriously speaking: Why not make it it's own IP? Sounds completely stupid, but it'd probably end up getting it far more recognition and respect than it would get as Versus XIII.

It's being written by Nojima, and he created the mythology for FNC.

[duckroll]

No way are they going to change the name to XV, unless they completely cut out anything related to Fabula Nova Crystallis.

There's no reason why FFXV can't be part of FNC.

[StoppedInTracks]

2014 fo sho.

Any chances Square will release it on the PS4? Just do a quick up port to 1080p and BAM: a Final Fantasy launch title for PS4.

It prints money.

[Diablos54]

There's no reason why FFXV can't be part of FNC.

I can think of one reason. I don't want FNC to infect XV since all the games involving FNC sucked (Type-0 which we'll never get to play in the West not included).

[duckroll]

I can think of one reason. I don't want FNC to infect XV since all the games involving FNC sucked (Type-0 which we'll never get to play in the West not included).

I don't think anyone really cares about that. It's such a minor part of the marketing that the only people who would care about that are probably the ones invested to buying pretty much all FF games anyway. It's a non-reason really. If they think calling it FFXV would help it sell more, they would do it in a heartbeat now.

[Femmeworth]

There's no reason why FFXV can't be part of FNC.

They could, but I think it would kind of defeat the purpose of establishing FNC. I could see them very well removing XIII from the title.

[duckroll]

They could, but I think it would kind of defeat the purpose of establishing FNC.

In what sense?

[Femmeworth]

In what sense?

Isn't the point of FNC to have it run sort of parallel to the mainline Final Fantasy series, like Ivalice Alliance and Compilation of Final Fantasy VII? I doubt marketing really cares at this point, but I imagine that the creative side does.

[Trickster]

Giantbomb has the answer

[duckroll]

Isn't the point of FNC to have it run sort of parallel to the mainline Final Fantasy series, like Ivalice Alliance and Compilation of Final Fantasy VII? I doubt marketing really cares at this point, but I imagine that the creative side does.

No, there really isn't any plan. At first the creative idea was that it was "FNC FFXIII" and all the games would be FF <something> XIII. But they back-peddled on that and removed the XIII, so now it's just "FNC FF" and it includes random titles like FFXIII, FF Type-0, and FFXIII-2. Adding FFXV to that really wouldn't change anything.

[Zwei]

2014? You guys are incredibly optimistic.

[Raist]

Even if it does come out, how many times has a game stumbled through an extended development hell like this and actually turned out good?

[awaiken]

I can think of one reason. I don't want FNC to infect XV since all the games involving FNC sucked (Type-0 which we'll never get to play in the West not included).

You make it sound like there was a laundry list of games in FNC. It's just 13, Type0 and Versus.

Besides It's ludicrous to assume a game will be bad because of the label thrown onto it.

[FrankCaron]

Versus isn't really something you "play", it's more of an idea or concept, like love or Santa.

[Ghost_Protocol]

When will people in the United States be able to purchase a copy of the game? Early 2014 is the only realistic answer.

[Grewas]

I seem to remember that from the time ffXIII got a proper reveal(when we got some actual info and real gameplay not just that one trailer) the release was only a couple of months away. I guess we could maybe be optimistic because of that...

[Muffdraul]

"Realistically", I'd say holiday 2008. But in this bizarre alternate reality dimension we seem to have been sucked into via wormhole or summat, more like holiday 2178.

[StuBurns]

February '14ish.

[Dunan]

I miss the Ivalice Alliance a lot more than I'm looking forward to any future installments in the Fabula Nova Crystallis.

[DoctorWho]

The year was 20XX.

[toleoring]

Major FF title related news will be out on 6.21.2012 when FF13-3 omega guide hits the market.

They promised to have comments on that Lightning DLC ending (13-3 or not) and more....

[Spanish Wrath]

Winter 2014

[Seda]

There is no way this can live up to the hype.

[StuBurns]

There is no way this can live up to the hype.

Hype doesn't matter beyond the point of putting the disc in.

[John Rabbit]

[Shalashaska161]

I kind of imagine it will be the PS3's last hurrah in 2013. Worst case is Spring 2014 after the PS4 launches

[Dresden]

Winter 2015, probably.

[Kai Dracon]

If (and I think this is a big if) they're actually building a real game right now out of the burning scraps of what they've been dicking around with for years... then by the end of 2013.

As for a rebranding, I think that's not out of the question. Don't know if they'd go for FF15, that's a bit of a leap. But the FFXIII branding is really part of a massively failed experiment to create a range of products that mostly never materialized in their intended form. I think it does no favors to Versus to try and keep that branding. At this point I doubt whatever they're constructing has any connection to the original story outline besides the appearance of the protagonist.

[Evershade]

Holiday 2013 - worldwide, maybe summer 2013 in Japan.

And it will either have become FFXV or dropped versus XIII from its name and gained a new subtitle.

I'm guessing from around TGS time it'll have a re-reveal.

[TDLink]

Realistically? We have no indication of any time soon. They have been close to quiet on the game basically since its announcement, with some amount of energy a couple years ago when they actually had a super long trailer/event concerning it. Since then we have heard zilch though. If I was to throw out a guess I would say 2014, but that is only because it is at least 2 years away...and likely still before the PS4/720 are out on the market. Square does favour TGS, they very well could come out and have a deluge of info there and announce an early 2013 release. I just don't really see that happening realistically, especially since they aren't going to put it against Tomb Raider which they are already releasing in early 2013. I would love to be wrong in this situation.

[King of the Potato People]

Perhaps when Nomura finishes the Xehanort saga (The first one) in Kingdom Hearts.

[RurouniZel]

It's lauching day and date with Seiken Densetsu 5 and Chrono Break. Not a good strategy to launch 3 games at the same time but hey, who am I to judge?

[jorgeton]

My guess is a close-to-simultaneous east/west release second half of 2013.

I'm thinking they're gonna rename it to FF15 or something else entirely (FF Type-1?), and once Tomb Raider is out (which is the AAA console game SE seems to be really focused on this winter), double down on the whole re-branding/marketing of the game. If they play their cards right, this game will be a massive hit. And it going multi platform is kind of a given.

[ponpo]

Game scrapped / focus on Agnis' Philosophy engine FF7 remake ps4 launch title.