AgentOtaku
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:04 PM)

AgentOtaku's Avatar
Franchises that deserve another chance: Dark Void Edition #1



So i'm playing this again (it's $9.99 on Steam) and man, I really hope AirTight goes back to it in the future

For all it's faults, it gave us one of THE greatest themes this gen courtesy of Bear M. of Battlestar Galactica, Walking Dead, and Socom4





It had a wonderful retro sci-fi aestitic mixed with Stargate and the Rocketeer.

...yeah, reread that last line, fucking boss isn't it?

Oh and let's not forget the Xbox Crimson Skies team worked on this as well.

Was it too short?

Yes

Was it rough around the edges?

Yup

Was it still fun as hell?

When you were mixing up the combat? absolutely!

I fucking loved being mixed in a ground battle and then abruptly blasting off into the air, just to flip around and then strafe run. Did I have to do this? No. I mean, combat in it was like alot of games in that, it was what you made of it. I know most people were down on the OTS shooter bits and thought it to be just workman's Gears knock-off.
In the end though, it was certainly the sum of it's parts and i'm still quite sad that we probably won't get anything like it ever again

Also, play Dark Void Zero, which is also on Steam



If only so you can hear this

SO.DAMN.GOOD
Raide
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:09 PM)

Raide's Avatar
#2

Too Human.
Giants: Citizen Kabuto
Criminal Upper
Banned
(06-13-2012, 07:10 PM)

Criminal Upper's Avatar
#3

Dark Void can live on as XBLA/PSN/WiiU titles done in an old school way.

Does not derserve full retail releases.
Stumpokapow
listen to the madman
(06-13-2012, 07:10 PM)

Stumpokapow's Avatar
#4

I didn't really care about the story. I thought that one level on the barge was pretty boring. I thought the music was nice. I glitched through the stairs roundabout the base that gets attacked about 2/3rds of the way through the game. LOL Cliffhanger but it isn't going to get a sequel.

^ This is literally the sum total of what I thought about Dark Void when I gave it a full playthrough.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
(06-13-2012, 07:12 PM)

Combichristoffersen's Avatar
#5

Sup



Just take it away from Monolith and give the IP to someone who can treat it properly.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
(06-13-2012, 07:12 PM)

Stallion Free's Avatar
#6

I wish they had the game focus more on the jetpack stuff/flying combat.

The game can look quite pretty on PC at times:

Mrbob
how can the baaasheep
enjoy the shootbang?
(06-13-2012, 07:13 PM)

Mrbob's Avatar
#7

I'm numb to the pain because I don't ever see it happening but I'd love NOLF to be brought back. Funny dialogue, giant talking heads, good level design and action. Also Cate Archer, the best female protagonist in all of gaming! Rumors of a spiritual successor in the works and we see Monolith is working on LOTR DOTA at E3. I still want to believe.
KageMaru
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:17 PM)

KageMaru's Avatar
#8

I think Legend of Dragoon and Advent Rising deserve a second chance.

The concept behind LoD's battle mechanics were cool and if it had a bit more polishing and refinement, I can see it being better received.

I enjoyed the ideas in Advent Rising, and the story was one of the best sci-fi stories last gen IMO. Too bad it lacked polish in both the performance and gameplay department.
Pennybags
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:23 PM)

Pennybags's Avatar
#9

We need a good developer to make a good Rocketeer game.
AgentOtaku
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:23 PM)

AgentOtaku's Avatar
#10

Advent Rising on PC was heaven for me when it released
Jarlaxle
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:25 PM)

Jarlaxle's Avatar
#11

Mirror's Edge
LiK
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:25 PM)

LiK's Avatar
#12

Bayonetta
kami_sama
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:27 PM)

kami_sama's Avatar
#13

Originally Posted by Jarlaxle: View Post
Mirror's Edge
This a million times!
Patryn
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:28 PM)

Patryn's Avatar
#14

Alpha Protocol.

I just need to know what is up with G22! What's the deal with Sis?

I know the common fan theory that G22 is just a prior incarnation of Alpha Protocol that evaded liquidation and is now independent, but I still think that'd be an interesting story to tell.
Izick
(06-13-2012, 07:29 PM)
#15





celebi23
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:33 PM)

celebi23's Avatar
#16

Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen: View Post
Sup



Just take it away from Monolith and give the IP to someone who can treat it properly.
Man, I kill for a One Unit HD remake >_< The horror + the comedy mix is perfect :P
revolverjgw
(06-13-2012, 07:34 PM)

revolverjgw's Avatar
#17

I liked Dark Void and fear the loss of B-tier games like this next gen. Hell I even liked Dark Sector.

But my stock answer for these threads is always and will always be Syphon Filter. 5 of the 6 games are among my all-time favorites and I want Bend to have another shot at the console big time. There's still room for another stealthy spy shooter.

And also Maximo, but I know that's hopeless. The studio and people are long gone from Capcom and the IP is just about valueless. Goddammit.
Last edited by revolverjgw; 06-13-2012 at 07:38 PM.
KageMaru
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:37 PM)

KageMaru's Avatar
#18

Originally Posted by AgentOtaku: View Post
Advent Rising on PC was heaven for me when it released
I have it on PC as well, but the camera bugs out and constantly spins when I plug in my controller.
HamPster PamPster
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:37 PM)

HamPster PamPster's Avatar
#19

I could go for some more Croc

outunderthestars
He's not our sharpest knife. In fact, he's one of our dullest.
(06-13-2012, 07:39 PM)
#20

Dark Void was a weird game. Every time they would show a new build it seemed to get uglier and uglier.

As for my choices:







Last edited by outunderthestars; 06-13-2012 at 07:41 PM.
Murrah
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:39 PM)

Murrah's Avatar
#21

Thread made me realize I still have 5 bucks left over on my 3ds since December to buy Dark Void Zero with when Nintendo doesn't release Wario Land tomorrow. Thanks OP!
graywolf323
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:40 PM)

graywolf323's Avatar
#22

I'll second

NOLF
Legend of Dragoon
Alpha Protocol
Advent Rising
SafeinSound
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:40 PM)

SafeinSound's Avatar
#23

Originally Posted by outunderthestars: View Post
Dark Void was a weird game. Every time they would show a new build it seemed to get uglier and uglier.
Yeah, I got the same impressions for Brink. I remember being really really hyped for Brink and then near it's release I realized the game had problems. Apparently it did.
Hero of Legend
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:43 PM)

Hero of Legend's Avatar
#24

Dark Void's "Wii Counterpart": Spyborgs.

Come on, it was created by quite a few ex-Insomniac folks at Bionic Games which essentially merged with High Impact Games, the other ex-Insomniac exodus company.

It definitely has the spirit of Ratchet & Clank I find. All I want for now is a polished-up Wii U port in 1080p and 60fps. And whatever else they feel like adding, I'd like an option to remove upgrades just for cosmetic purposes; armor upgrades are permanent, so the characters (Stinger for one) is completely covered from head to toe. :/

If a sequel ever happened, make it a brawler/platformer mash-up, spice it up with more variety and how about changeable weapons?

That's my recent one.

Another is one that SHOULD'VE happened by now; Billy Hatcher 2 on Wii, why Sega, WHY?! :(

I even came up with a nice Wiimote-controlled set-up. :(
Roddslayer
Junior Member
(06-13-2012, 07:46 PM)

Roddslayer's Avatar
#25

Dark Void is easily my favorite guilty pleasure this generation. I loved fighting on the ground, then firing up the jet pack and to take out some ships and then come back to hovering to clean up the rest of the troops, it gave such a great gameplay sandbox to play in. Sure the shooting mechanics were dull but they absolutely nailed the feeling of flying as a man with a jet pack strapped on his back. Either give me a sequel or Crimson Skies 2 please.
Bukana
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:47 PM)

Bukana's Avatar
#26


TheOGB
Shots Shots Shots
(06-13-2012, 07:47 PM)

TheOGB's Avatar
#27

I just played the demo for Dark Void last night/this morning because I was bored as shit and I didn't like it

Bionic Commando could deserve another chance, but Dark Void less so. I enjoyed DVZero more.
vazel
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:50 PM)

vazel's Avatar
#28

As a big Rocketeer fan I like Dark Void but it could've been so much better. There was that one level in Dark Void where you had to fly into enemy bases, sabotage it, then fly out as the bases were exploding. It made good use of the fact that you were a human with a jetpack. Too bad the rest of the game wasn't like that. With the rest of the game you might as well be flying an airplane or MAV.
Last edited by vazel; 06-13-2012 at 07:53 PM.
PhiLonius
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:52 PM)

PhiLonius's Avatar
#29

I want another Freedom Fighters.
outunderthestars
He's not our sharpest knife. In fact, he's one of our dullest.
(06-13-2012, 07:54 PM)
#30

Originally Posted by PhiLonius: View Post
I want another Freedom Fighters.
I would love another Freedom Fighters! I'd love to see it done with more RPG elements this time.
Raptomex
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:55 PM)

Raptomex's Avatar
#31

Originally Posted by Combichristoffersen: View Post
Sup



Just take it away from Monolith and give the IP to someone who can treat it properly.
This. And...
Ra1den
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:55 PM)

Ra1den's Avatar
#32



Among the best action games on PS2.
TomJoadsGhost
Junior Member
(06-13-2012, 07:55 PM)

TomJoadsGhost's Avatar
#33

interstate '76.

Its kind of what the RAGE engine was built for, but this time i want evil knieval, the hell angels, hunter thompson and alice cooper to make a thinly veiled appearance.
AgentChris
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:56 PM)

AgentChris's Avatar
#34

Mirror's Edge and Getaway.
Host Samurai
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:56 PM)

Host Samurai's Avatar
#35

Fear Effect deserves another go.
Gospel
Parmesan et Romano
(06-13-2012, 07:56 PM)

Gospel's Avatar
#36

Dark Void Zero was slick. Unfortunately, it was pretty short but I guess that's to be expected considering it's price.

I heard they would be making a follow-up to it a long time ago but I guess nothing's come of that.
Raptomex
Member
(06-13-2012, 07:58 PM)

Raptomex's Avatar
#37

Mutant League sports series.
King of the Potato People
Member
(06-13-2012, 08:00 PM)

King of the Potato People's Avatar
#38

In a better world, we'll be hyping up Lost Odyssey III by now.
PinkCrayon
Member
(06-13-2012, 08:03 PM)

PinkCrayon's Avatar
#39

Man, DV was such a swing and a miss. Premise had so much potential, and the flying was great, but man... everything else sucked hard.
Alx
Member
(06-13-2012, 08:04 PM)

Alx's Avatar
#40

I bought Dark Void for a few euros because I remembered the Zero punctuation "review" saying that the game wasn't very good but the jetpack sessions were fun... well I didn't really get far into it, but got bored and stopped playing. There was this introduction scene with the jetpack that I found hard to enjoy, and then it became a TPS inspired by Gears of War I suppose.
Maybe I should give it another chance ?
AgentOtaku
Member
(06-13-2012, 08:05 PM)

AgentOtaku's Avatar
#41

Originally Posted by TomJoadsGhost: View Post
interstate '76.

Its kind of what the RAGE engine was built for, but this time i want evil knieval, the hell angels, hunter thompson and alice cooper to make a thinly veiled appearance.
concurred

Originally Posted by Alx: View Post
I bought Dark Void for a few euros because I remembered the Zero punctuation "review" saying that the game wasn't very good but the jetpack sessions were fun... well I didn't really get far into it, but got bored and stopped playing. There was this introduction scene with the jetpack that I found hard to enjoy, and then it became a TPS inspired by Gears of War I suppose.
Maybe I should give it another chance ?
Yes, once you get the jetpack and get afforded the combat sandbox scenarios, it's pure joy ....if you're so inclined
shagg_187
lapdance transform pants
(06-13-2012, 08:10 PM)

shagg_187's Avatar
#42

Disagree. The controls, screen tearing and frame rate (not to mention: Nolan North forced to do Drake voice for the millionth time) for Dark Void is so bad that I stopped playing after an hour or two of gameplay cause I got insane headache.

The opening tutorial was just fucking stupid.
Rösti
Member
(06-13-2012, 08:10 PM)

Rösti's Avatar
#43

Originally Posted by Raptomex: View Post
This. And...
Well, Shadow Warrior is still owned by Action Entertainment/Apogee Software (3D Realms) and George and Scott don't seem to be hard at work. Well, Scott/Radar Group renewed the Incarnate trademark in September last year. Earth No More is no more though. In any case I don't think they would wanna sell Shadow Warrior, without that they have practically just got Rise of the Triad left, and that game could be difficult to market.

But yeah, a modern Shadow Warrior would be a blast. I can't really think of any game from this generation that is similar to it. Sure, there are plenty of games featuring ninjas but an FPS? And Blood, as mentioned, would be nice to play again. That was also originally a 3D Realms title.
Last edited by Rösti; 06-13-2012 at 08:16 PM.
famousmortimer
Member
(06-13-2012, 08:11 PM)

famousmortimer's Avatar
#44

I would love to see another team take a crack at a 3D Bionic Commando game. The one a few years back was extremely mediocre. But the basic idea of swinging and shooting can be fun.... i would think.
Strike
Member
(06-13-2012, 08:15 PM)

Strike's Avatar
#45

-Power Stone
-Heavenly Sword (without Ninja Theory)
-Freedom Fighters
Raptomex
Member
(06-13-2012, 08:18 PM)

Raptomex's Avatar
#46

Originally Posted by Rösti: View Post
Well, Shadow Warrior is still owned by Action Entertainment/Apogee Software (3D Realms) and George and Scott don't seem to be hard at work. Well, Scott/Radar Group renewed the Incarnate trademark in September last year. Earth No More is no more though. In any case I don't think they would wanna sell Shadow Warrior, without that they have practically just got Rise of the Triad left, and that game could be difficult to market.

But yeah, a modern Shadow Warrior would be a blast. I can't really think of any game from this generation that is similar to it. Sure, there are plenty of games featuring ninjas but an FPS? And Blood, as mentioned, would be nice to play again. That was also originally a 3D Realms title.
Duke 3D
Blood
Shadow Warrior

All amazing games. I still play Duke using EDuke and Shadow Warrior using some program to modernize it. I need to find something that works for Blood. I actually bought Rise of the Triad on GOG but haven't gotten around to playing it yet.
gabbo
Member
(06-13-2012, 09:07 PM)

gabbo's Avatar
#47

My stock answer is and will always be No One Lives Forever.
The runners up: Freedom Force, Unreal, Interstate XX, and thanks to gog, Crusaders: No X
CecilRousso
Member
(06-13-2012, 09:09 PM)

CecilRousso's Avatar
#48

Originally Posted by AgentOtaku: View Post

Also, play Dark Void Zero, which is also on Steam
I will most certainly not buy a 2 year old 4€ game that still comes with Securom, which is laughable that it even had from the beginning.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
(06-13-2012, 09:20 PM)

Black_Stride's Avatar
#49

Originally Posted by Jarlaxle: View Post
Mirror's Edge
Originally Posted by LiK: View Post
Bayonetta
I think you guys are missing the point of the thread.
Unless im mistaken this is about games that werent exactly perfect but if given a second go maybe with bigger budgets, time and/or better dev teams could be brilliant gems.

Bayonetta and Mirrors Edge are both fucking brilliant.
ArjanN
Member
(06-13-2012, 10:14 PM)

ArjanN's Avatar
#50

Originally Posted by CecilRousso: View Post
I will most certainly not buy a 2 year old 4€ game that still comes with Securom, which is laughable that it even had from the beginning.
Your loss because it's actually quite good.