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So can they be fired so the show can get some good writers?
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Originally Posted by Learn2read: View Post
Dumbest fucking thing I've read in a looong time.
Why's that? They could have used ANY head. Hell they could have reused the head they made for the first decap scene in the first episode. Instead, oh, it just happens to be a George Bush head. Oh, what a coincidence.

You guys believe what you want. I think it's a bullshit excuse. Why is that any skin off your ass? I'm not just coming into this with no idea how this stuff works--I've been around film and TV sets on a semi-regular basis for the last 15 years picking up work as a production photographer on the side. I used to do so much of it I actually owned a whisper rig at one point.
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Never would have known. I will now write a 300 page letter as to how and why this offends me.
beelzebozo
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#54

they should apologize for not using the real head.
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Originally Posted by beelzebozo: View Post
they should apologize for not using the real head.
Whoa, *wipes sweat off brow* Holy crap. *stands up and sits down 10 times* That political commentary's too hardcore for me. *turns off lights and just stares at floor for an hour*
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I've seen that episode like 5 times and never noticed...there is other stuff going on that background decapitations just don't matter in a show like this.
Dram
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#57

So if they never said anything, no one would have known?
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Originally Posted by Pristine_Condition: View Post
Why's that? They could have used ANY head. Hell they could have reused the head they made for the first decap scene in the first episode. Instead, oh, it just happens to be a George Bush head. Oh, what a coincidence.

You guys believe what you want. I think it's a bullshit excuse. Why is that any skin off your ass? I'm not just coming into this with no idea how this stuff works--I've been around film and TV sets on a semi-regular basis for the last 15 years picking up work as a production photographer on the side. I used to do so much of it I actually owned a whisper rig at one point.
"They didn't rent Stark's head"

Huh? What garbled nonsense is going on in your head? I can't even follow this.
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Originally Posted by Divvy: View Post
Well that would certainly be the first time Bush was ahead on any poll.
This would have been an amazing first reply.
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Originally Posted by Jesus Carbomb: View Post
I only watch GoT for the scenes that show bush in it.
Are you my twin?
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Originally Posted by Learn2read: View Post
"They didn't rent Stark's head"

Huh? What garbled nonsense is going on in your head? I can't even follow this.
I'm saying the art department has made custom heads for all the many decap scenes and stuff before, and these guys that work in this field have lots of random heads at their disposal. If they needed another head for the pikes, they could have just had a PA or crew member sit and have a cast made while they were doing Stark's head, or any of the other many heads they've made for this production. The excuse that they just had to use George Bush's head because that's all they could get is just silly.

Now that HBO says they are removing the so-called "offending" commentary from future DVD and Blu-ray releases, that makes all the current inventory in stores now a "collector's" item. (Hey, it works--I would be going out and getting an "uncensored" version for my collection before they are all gone if I didn't have one already.) This is the same thing as Madonna flashing her tit to make a stir. Controversy sells, even if it's much ado about nothing.
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It's funny and cool when it's Bush but it's disgusting and racist when it's Obama.
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(06-14-2012, 05:32 AM)

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Originally Posted by Pristine_Condition: View Post
I'm saying the art department has made custom heads for all the many decap scenes and stuff before, and these guys that work in this field have lots of random heads at their disposal. If they needed another head for the pikes, they could have just had a PA or crew member sit and have a cast made while they were doing Stark's head, or any of the other many heads they've made for this production. The excuse that they just had to use George Bush's head because that's all they could get is just silly.

Now that HBO says they are removing the so-called "offending" commentary from future DVD and Blu-ray releases, that makes all the current inventory in stores now a "collector's" item. (Hey, it works--I would be going out and getting an "uncensored" version for my collection before they are all gone if I didn't have one already.) This is the same thing as Madonna flashing her tit to make a stir. Controversy sells, even if it's much ado about nothing.
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Originally Posted by chris.trejo: View Post
I've seen that episode like 5 times and never noticed...there is other stuff going on that background decapitations just don't matter in a show like this.
It really is something that you're not at all going to notice until you have it pointed out. And even then, its not like its front and center.

Its in poor taste, but I don't think it was any attempt at political commentary or anything, just the show trying to do things cheap.

Predictably enough, with FOX news on in the background now, they're going to have a story on about this. lol
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Originally Posted by xbhaskarx: View Post
It's funny and cool when it's Bush but it's disgusting and racist when it's Obama.
But that wouldn't make sense, because there weren't any black people in Westeros... at least not in Season 1.
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Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
So can they be fired so the show can get some good writers?
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Originally Posted by Pristine_Condition: View Post
I'm saying the art department has made custom heads for all the many decap scenes and stuff before, and these guys that work in this field have lots of random heads at their disposal. If they needed another head for the pikes, they could have just had a PA or crew member sit and have a cast made while they were doing Stark's head, or any of the other many heads they've made for this production. The excuse that they just had to use George Bush's head because that's all they could get is just silly.

Now that HBO says they are removing the so-called "offending" commentary from future DVD and Blu-ray releases, that makes all the current inventory in stores now a "collector's" item. (Hey, it works--I would be going out and getting an "uncensored" version for my collection before they are all gone if I didn't have one already.) This is the same thing as Madonna flashing her tit to make a stir. Controversy sells, even if it's much ado about nothing.
Making a custom head of a principal that needs to be shown in close-up is a worthwhile use of the FX budget. Making a custom head of some random head in the background is not.
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Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
So can they be fired so the show can get some good writers?
Haha I wish.
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#69

Someone must have gotten a visit from the SS.
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Mountain out of a molehill.
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Who fucking cares? It's just a funny coincidence.
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First of all, the freedom of speech allows specifically for things like the killing of a likeness of a politician as political protest. Second, he was no longer president when the show aired. Third, his face can't even be seen. It could be anyone. Without the producers mentioning it, we'd never know. And fourth: there are more important things to get upset over.

There should be no apology. Where's our fucking apology for all the actual human beings killed in a war justified by lies?
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Originally Posted by Roger Danish: View Post
But that wouldn't make sense, because there weren't any black people in Westeros... at least not in Season 1.
in the books there was that summer islander in the court, I forget his name
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Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
So can they be fired so the show can get some good writers?
I don't think they can fire George Martin.
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Originally Posted by AVclub: View Post
There should be no apology. Where's our fucking apology for all the actual human beings killed in a war justified by lies?
Right here: http://articles.cnn.com/2008-06-11/p..._s=PM:POLITICS

Quote:
U.S. President Bush claimed Wednesday that he had no regrets about the decision to invade Iraq and topple Saddam Hussein in 2003
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haha


No one has a screencap of this? Disappointed, GAF.
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Given all the hindsight we have on Bush, is anyone in 2012 actually offended by this? Even the most hardcore Obama hating Republican has to admit that much of the criticism Bush got was well deserved.
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Man, GoTs is my favorite show right now. I'm really disapointed in these guys.

Because they apologized.
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Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
So can they be fired so the show can get some good writers?
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Originally Posted by Pristine_Condition: View Post
I'm saying the art department has made custom heads for all the many decap scenes and stuff before, and these guys that work in this field have lots of random heads at their disposal. If they needed another head for the pikes, they could have just had a PA or crew member sit and have a cast made while they were doing Stark's head, or any of the other many heads they've made for this production. The excuse that they just had to use George Bush's head because that's all they could get is just silly.

Now that HBO says they are removing the so-called "offending" commentary from future DVD and Blu-ray releases, that makes all the current inventory in stores now a "collector's" item. (Hey, it works--I would be going out and getting an "uncensored" version for my collection before they are all gone if I didn't have one already.) This is the same thing as Madonna flashing her tit to make a stir. Controversy sells, even if it's much ado about nothing.
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Man, they kill Ned?

I'm about three-fourths of the way through the first book. First time I've been spolied by a random post. Feels bad :(
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Fox is going to rip this apart and drag everyone's name through the mud - they're finally going to "notice" the sex and nudity as well and we'll get articles about "is your teen nerd seeing too many male dicks and female bushes on their videogame-based fantasy show?".

Just cancel the show now so we can listen to two years of anger and get it over with instead of the ten years that will spilled because this show keeps going.

Originally Posted by dr3upmushroom: View Post
Man, they kill Ned?

I'm about three-fourths of the way through the first book. First time I've been spolied by a random post. Feels bad :(
So you post a broken spoiler?
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Originally Posted by dr3upmushroom: View Post
Man, they kill Ned?

I'm about three-fourths of the way through the first book. First time I've been spolied by a random post. Feels bad :(
Wow dude that sucks... though the top of the post did warn you...
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Originally Posted by bengraven: View Post


So you post a broken spoiler?
Fixed as soon as I noticed! but as long as it's in the OP I don't see the harm anyway.
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This is incredibly disrespectful and in terrible taste. It's unsettling to view the immaturity of so many Gaffers voicing themselves in this thread. Putting any political figure up there (be it Bush or Obama or Lincoln) shows a complete lack of professionalism by the show's producers.
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Would have never even known this had I not clicked this thread.

I've seen that particular episode like 4 times now too...

In short: Who gives a shit.
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wuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Wasn't smart. You saw what happened with Lucky and the horses with PETA, its not out of the question that GoT could get cancelled because of this.
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Originally Posted by Rookje: View Post
Wasn't smart. You saw what happened with Lucky and the horses with PETA, its not out of the question that GoT could get cancelled because of this.
Yes it is.

Prosthetic head bearing a passing resemblance to a former US president /= three horses dying during production

Also, Game of Thrones makes a whole lot more money for HBO than Luck ever did. In the end, it's all about the dollars and cents.
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Originally Posted by Rookje: View Post
Wasn't smart. You saw what happened with Lucky and the horses with PETA, its not out of the question that GoT could get cancelled because of this.
haha. Real dead horses and fake Bush head. Won't happen. Also, I guarantee HBO was looking for an excuse to cancel Luck. GoT is the best show they have going right now and is a cash cow. Not going to happen.


Edit:
Damn you GUTSHOT!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Rookje: View Post
Wasn't smart. You saw what happened with Lucky and the horses with PETA, its not out of the question that GoT could get cancelled because of this.
No way HBO cancels its most popular show since the Sopranos.
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Originally Posted by moop2000: View Post
Edit:
Damn you GUTSHOT!!!!!!
Guess that Belfast internet connection just isn't fast enough.
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Originally Posted by dr3upmushroom: View Post
Fixed as soon as I noticed! but as long as it's in the OP I don't see the harm anyway.
No worries, I noticed right as I was clicking the post button.
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Originally Posted by gutshot: View Post
Guess that Belfast internet connection just isn't fast enough.
Haha
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An "accident'. Sure, morons.
Stay classy, liberal Hollywood.
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Originally Posted by Bulbo Urethral Baggins: View Post
An "accident'. Sure, morons.
Stay classy, liberal Hollywood.
Did you watch the clip? It's obvious it wasn't intentional.

Stay paranoid, conservative crybabies.
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Originally Posted by krameriffic: View Post
I don't see the big deal, I never would have even known if not for this thread. It wasn't exactly obvious to me, nor would I really be looking out for such a thing.
Yep.
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Originally Posted by Dude Abides: View Post
Did you watch the clip? It's obvious it wasn't intentional.

Stay paranoid, conservative crybabies.
Wait. You actually believe them? lol.
That's fucking pathetic.
yep. I'm sure they couldn't afford another one.
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Originally Posted by Bulbo Urethral Baggins: View Post
Wait. You actually believe them? lol.
That's fucking pathetic.
yep. I'm sure they couldn't afford another one.
Don't you think if they did it on purpose they would have done a better job of making it obvious to viewers? No one would have even noticed if the producers hadn't jokingly pointed it out on the DVD commentary (that apparently almost no one listened to since the DVDs have been out for 3 months and this is just now becoming an issue).

If they were trying to make a political statement, they failed miserably.