[prwxv3]

http://www.indiegogo.com/misandryinvideogames

Holy shit

[BocoDragon]

After all of the misogyny talk, "rape culture in games", Tomb Raider and Lollipop Chainsaw threads, I think it was inevitable to see this eventually.

[Neiteio]

For chrissake, is everything a victim in videogames??

[BocoDragon]

For chrissake, is fucking everything a victim in videogames??

this. this x 1000.

[kittens]

I dunno about misandry, but patriarchal portrayals of masculinity are a huge problem. Men are constantly presented as violent, domineering, coercive, abusive, uncaring, emotionless, brash, etc. etc.

Game devs need to read some bell hooks.

[SMT]

As soon as I released my video back in April, a ton of these gender role essays keep popping up.

[Baconsammy]

For chrissake, is everything a victim in videogames??

Apparently if you're not morally offended when playing games, you're playing wrong.

[Neiteio]

We got some serious Goldilocks up in this shit.

"My videogames are too sexist!"

"My videogames are too violent!"

"My videogames are too white!"

We won't be satisfied until Zelda is black and has to rescue Link by diplomatically resolving conflicts with Bokoblins.

[Lord Ghirahim]

Zelda's apology to Link(watch) in Skyward Sword was quite philandric.

[BocoDragon]

Ohh... I want to write a marxist criticism of gaming!

"Mario's constant striving to acquire coins is a narrow fantasy designed to further the capitalist aims of the bourgeoisie..."

[Grecco]

Is this a response to that other video series on kick starter about women that got like 80k?

[prwxv3]

For chrissake, is everything a victim in videogames??

This is mostly a response to the Tropes Vs. Women

Creating videos for Youtube is hardly an expensive practice, so we feel that demanding money for what should be an altruistic venture is a morally reprehensible thing to do. Especially when there are so many great causes that DON'T get the attention and funding they deserve.

And these dudes are probably from /v/. I saw many threads promoting this and some of the rewards are very /v/ like.

[Neiteio]

You notice that shadows are bad guys in a lot of games? And shadows are black?

What's up with that?

[BocoDragon]

You notice that shadows are bad guys in a lot of games? And shadows are black? What's up with that?

Hate crime in progress:

[Nert]

For chrissake, is everything a victim in videogames??

It's not a serious project, don't worry. It's point for point a troll response to what FeministFrequency is doing with her planned series on Tropes and Women in games.

But if someone in the future wanted to take a serious look at male stereotypes in games, there would be nothing wrong with that. It would certainly be better to actually raise those concerns in a coherent way instead of just bringing them up as a way to derail feminist arguments.

Edit: For those of you that don't know what they're trying to troll: look at this Kickstarter page.

[joe2187]

I had to look up the term

Misandry ( /mɪˈsændri/) is the hatred or dislike of men or boys. Though the concept is ancient, the word did not appear in most dictionaries until the second half of the 20th century. It was commonly seen as a neologism in the early 1970s.[1] Misandry was formed from Greek misos (μῖσος, "hatred") and anēr, andros (ἀνήρ, gen. ἀνδρός; "man"). Misandry is the antonym of philandry, the fondness, love, or admiration of men.

I ...dont understand.

[greycolumbus]

Is this a response to that other video series on kick starter about women that got like 80k?

No, no, that can't be it.

[cosmicblizzard]

You know everyone is complaining about how misogynistic it is, but I gotta say there's a ton of misandry in Lollipop Chainsaw. I don't care though since it's an awesome game and hilarious.

[WonkersTHEWatilla]

First it was action movies, then rap, now video games get examined in relation to its portrayal of the masculine identity to impressionable males. Seems fairly timely, I suppose.

[Neiteio]

It's not a serious project, don't worry. It's point for point a troll response to what FeministFrequency is doing with her planned series on Tropes and Women in games. But if someone in the future wanted to take a serious look at male stereotypes in games, there would be nothing wrong with that. It would certainly be better to actually raise those concerns in a coherent way instead of just bringing them up as a way to derail feminist arguments.

It's all good!

[JokerOfSpades]

Fuck, this could all be solved if video games had better writing. Shiet.

[Neiteio]

Most of us are guys here, right? We cool with these goofy vidyagame depictions of men? We are? Cool. Next on the agenda: world peace.

[Orayn]

It's not a serious project, don't worry. It's point for point a troll response to what FeministFrequency is doing with her planned series on Tropes and Women in games. But if someone in the future wanted to take a serious look at male stereotypes in games, there would be nothing wrong with that. It would certainly be better to actually raise those concerns in a coherent way instead of just bringing them up as a way to derail feminist arguments. Edit: For those of you that don't know what they're trying to troll: look at this Kickstarter page.

Quoting this again in hopes that more people will read and understand this.

DISENGAGE FOX NEWS OUTRAGE MODE, CITIZENS! THIS THING IS NOT SINCERE!

[SMT]

Fuck, this could all be solved if video games had better writing. Shiet.

It's not the the quality of the writing, but its message. It seems there are too many games in which so and so gender is stripped of their independence, humanity, etc.

It's fun to point out for projects, but when everyone starts doing it, I guess it's not cool anymore.

[Neiteio]

Quoting this again in hopes that more people will read and understand this. DISENGAGE FOX NEWS OUTRAGE MODE, CITIZENS! THIS IS THING IS NOT SINCERE!

Damn. And I went through all this trouble to find a throng of peasants and a medieval hag to stand in the back of GAF and crow, "CRUCIFY HIM."

[Dresden]

Hate crime in progress:

why does the girl not have a stick?

[CaptainSchwann]

They aren't doing too bad for only being up for a few hours. I'm sure once every game site jumps on this kotaku it'll give them a boost.

[Lord Ghirahim]

why does the girl not have a stick?

Too phallic.

[Neiteio]

why does the girl not have a stick?

Ico is trying to say women are weaklings, so they don't get to use the stick.

Also, by withholding the stick Ico is saying women can't be transgendered, a clear attack on the LGBT community.

[prwxv3]

I think these dudes are pretty serious. I could be wrong though.

Now this kickstarter is obviously a troll

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...token=7bccb8c6

[Nert]

I think these dudes are pretty serious. I could be wrong though. Now this kickstarter is obviously a troll http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...token=7bccb8c6

If you don't think that they're trolling yet, here is one of their contribution rewards:

"$500
The Box! The Box!

A Mystery Box! Who knows what wonders lay inside? "

It saddens me to see Simpsons references wasted on things like this : /

[JokerOfSpades]

It's not the the quality of the writing, but its message. It seems there are too many games in which so and so gender is stripped of their independence, humanity, etc. It's fun to point out for projects, but when everyone starts doing it, I guess it's not cool anymore.

No, it's also the quality.

[prwxv3]

They aren't doing too bad for only being up for a few hours. I'm sure once every game site jumps on this kotaku it'll give them a boost.

http://kotaku.com/5918603/okay-but-w...in-video-games
http://kotaku.com/5918217/these-guys...-they-trolling

guaranteedkotakureplies.jpg

[XANDER CAGE]

Oh, cute.

[prwxv3]

If you don't think that they're trolling yet, here is one of their contribution rewards: "$500 The Box! The Box! A Mystery Box! Who knows what wonders lay inside? " It saddens me to see Simpsons references wasted on things like this : /

that is part of /v/'s (culture?) They have mystery box treads like every day and are promoting this on /v/ right now.

And its about time for there new cause that they all work on every so often. Their last cause was getting Launchpad and Einstein in the finals of the best sidekick contest on Gamespot. And they were successful

[MuseManMike]

It's not a serious project, don't worry. It's point for point a troll response to what FeministFrequency is doing with her planned series on Tropes and Women in games. But if someone in the future wanted to take a serious look at male stereotypes in games, there would be nothing wrong with that. It would certainly be better to actually raise those concerns in a coherent way instead of just bringing them up as a way to derail feminist arguments. Edit: For those of you that don't know what they're trying to troll: look at this Kickstarter page.

Ah, nice. I would probably have a good laugh regardless.

[mac]

Now that is salty! But then again, people have put out research saying all minorities were really getting the better deal throughout history.

[Xenon]

Dammit, this is a joke! I thought we could finally discuss important issues like why it always falls on men to save the world, the princess, or whatever? Or what about the whole concept of extra men. Sure don't worry our death because another identity-less fool will just step in our place. Sometimes if you look really hard they even hide them in the levels. Speaking of lack of identity, don't let game manufacture propaganda fool you. The current generation systems are more that capable of rendering hair. Yet time an time again we are given shaven heroes robbed of their individuality. How many bald women are in games? GIVE US BACK OUR HAIR YOU MISANDRY PROMOTING MOTHERFUCKERS!

[PrinceOfApathy]

EDIT...Its from the boys at /v/

Thanks for the laugh as usual...

[Sir Fragula]

If you don't think that they're trolling yet, here is one of their contribution rewards: "$500 The Box! The Box! A Mystery Box! Who knows what wonders lay inside? " It saddens me to see Simpsons references wasted on things like this : /

Isn't that a family guy reference?

[Wolves Evolve]

If you use "misandry" in any serious context, you are the enemy.

Apart from that, some of this isn't disagreeable. We should be kicking off about all kinds of representations in games. High standards and all that.

[Freezie KO]

Even though they're joking, if they raise the money, do they have to make the videos anyway?

[PrinceOfApathy]

If you use "misandry" in any serious context, you are the enemy. Apart from that, some of this isn't disagreeable. We should be kicking off about all kinds of representations in games. High standards and all that.

Are you saying that women can't be misandrist? I can direct you to some radical feminist pages that are actively talking about eugenics and annihilation of male children if you would like....

[Femmeworth]

[Optimus Lime]

Wow. People really are very angry that a woman has dared to make a video about how women are portrayed in video games, aren't they?

Perhaps she should have consulted with the men first, since that'd totally be respectful and not condescending and shit.

Seriously. Why are people getting so freaked out that a woman is talking about how she sees her gender being portrayed in their hobby? Film nerds have had this kind of stuff going on for years, and they seem to deal with it just fine.

[thetrin]

Of all the places where misandry could possibly be occurring, video games are pretty much the last place anyone should look.

I can't wait for the sequel to this video series, in which we find out how straight white males are marginalized in video games, and how no one lets them shine.

I swear to god. Straight white male video gamers act like they're under attack. Guess what, guys. You're not. You literally hold every card in your hand. You can't start bitching that the guy across the table might win the game.

[NoRéN]

Wow. People really are very angry that a woman has dared to make a video about how women are portrayed in video games, aren't they? Perhaps she should have consulted with the men first, since that'd totally be respectful and not condescending and shit. Seriously. Why are people getting so freaked out that a woman is talking about how she sees her gender being portrayed in their hobby? Film nerds have had this kind of stuff going on for years, and they seem to deal with it just fine.

Blame misandry.

[Glass Rebel]

I swear, some people are just a waste of oxygen...

[PrinceOfApathy]

Wow. People really are very angry that a woman has dared to make a video about how women are portrayed in video games, aren't they? Perhaps she should have consulted with the men first, since that'd totally be respectful and not condescending and shit. Seriously. Why are people getting so freaked out that a woman is talking about how she sees her gender being portrayed in their hobby? Film nerds have had this kind of stuff going on for years, and they seem to deal with it just fine.

For me, its basically the "Internet is gonna Internet" I don't read too much into their craziness, for me, you can speak about any topic you like, as long as you are respectful. I honestly see no reason to condemn the girl, atleast not yet, she hasn't come out guns blazing calling gamers, designers, artists, directors, producers rape merchants and bigots. She is just doing an analysis...... but as usual the mobs go wild......

[thetrin]

You know everyone is complaining about how misogynistic it is, but I gotta say there's a ton of misandry in Lollipop Chainsaw. I don't care though since it's an awesome game and hilarious.

I'm playing through LC right now, and I'm not seeing the misandry. The most powerful and well versed zombie hunter is her father. Nick is lovable and despite being only a head, still commands Juliet's attention. Is there something I'm missing?