[SolarPowered]

Demo is on now. Reggie said "this is the system..." but he put more focus on the tablet (as usual). Didn't really correct what Fallon said. Possibly didn't even hear him during the beginning of the show.

Their obsession with controllers is really wearing thin.

[Big Papa Husker]

Someone posted the full thing on Youtube. Looks like Reggie made sure to say it was a WiiU Console and Gamepad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZjkZf_TOkc

[ffdgh]

Uploaded the clip of Fallon calling it an addon here (temporarily): https://www.dropbox.com/s/v99rhmt6zd...allon-WiiU.m4v

that wasn't pretty to watch. Good grief.

[Endo Punk]

If it's really a cause for concern Nintendo should go ahead and add 'Super' before WiiU

[B.O.O.M]

I have my friend, bestest of friends, my buddy, reggie fil aims here, and he will show us the new wiiu console, which is an add on, that you can throw stars like this, it's amazing, it's a console, it's an add on, I think, wait, what,

F*%$()# it

here's Adam Sandler!

[PhoenixPause]

Can't blame anyone but Nintendo for this. The system has yet to demonstrate why casual gamers should pay attention. The Wii had such a great roll out, from appearing on Oprah to daytime news shows. Right now it just seems like the WiiU is some weird update with a big ass, expensive controller.

Ultimately the market Nintendo is aiming for again moved to Apple more than a year ago.

[jokkir]

Their obsession with controllers is really wearing thin.

Well, the main point they're trying to make with the Wii U is the new controller. Of course they'd put more focus to it.

Although, I did wish they showed the console a bit more than now >__>

[Einchy]

that wasn't pretty to watch. Good grief.

I like how a group of people watched that and didn't see anything of significance, while others made a thread on Neogaf the second it happened.

Reggie probably crapped his pants backstage.

[tsumineko]

It really doesn't help that both the consoles look practically the same as well...

If I were a casual looking at the stacks of Wii consoles, and the stacks of Wii U consoles in the store, I might think that the Wii U stack was just the original Wii with the tablet controller included in the box.

[perfectchaos007]

Whatever the case, Ubisoft must be thrilled.

I can see this scenario occuring to mom's accross the nation in early December:

"My kid wants some U tablet for his Wii...hmmm, I guess it must be this thingy here by Ubisoft."

[DanteFox]

Uploaded the clip of Fallon calling it an addon here (temporarily): https://www.dropbox.com/s/v99rhmt6zd...allon-WiiU.m4v

that actually wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be. He gets it right in the beginning then he makes a very jumbled statement that could actually be interpreted as him knowing that it's a new console and that you can use the Wii controller with it.

[Brettison]

Even beyond the name it doesn't help that Nintendo hasn't really focused on showing off the box itself. They just show the games and tablet with some interface stuff that could be looked at as just different software/update.

Being so nonchalant about the box itself and new hardware inside does them no favors either besides the naming fiasco.

[bon]

Uploaded the clip of Fallon calling it an addon here (temporarily): https://www.dropbox.com/s/v99rhmt6zd...allon-WiiU.m4v

That is a confused man.

[Nibel]

The audience seems to like it

[royalan]

The audience seems to like it

Of course they do. They're the studio audience.

[oatmeal]

Surprisingly not as pathetic as I thought it would be.

[shinra-bansho]

Brand confusion, thy name is Wii U.

Are people just being stupid now by calling WiiU an add on? Everything should be clear as day. PS1,2,3 and X360 never had this problem so why is it hard to grasp the idea that WiiU is a new system? Goddamn masses ¬_¬

A "U" is not a typical progression in a sequence.
As mentioned above, they've used the same branding for accessories before.

Also, to people saying they couldn't just call it the Wii 2, because people wouldn't think it was a generation behind... that didn't stop the Samsung's Galaxy S series following the iPhone.

[DarkKyo]

I had a hard time watching that.. I was cringing a lot.

[evanmisha]

Ken Kutaragi developed two of the most successful consoles of all time before the PS3. He was forced into retirement. Just saying.

Yo Iwata, I'm really happy for you and imma let you finish... but Ken Kutaragi made two of the best systems of all time. Of all time!

[Hiltz]

Yeah, Fallon's initial description of the console was confusing, but Reggie did a pretty good job clariyfing what it was. Too bad they didn't demo New SMB U. It would have been more impressive to watch the game get streamed to the controller.

[Kuro Madoushi]

If Nintendo still has to correct people after E3 that the Wii U is not an add-on but a new console, there is a problem. It is very real, and it's a big one. Rename the goddamn thing, Nintendo. You still have time.

No they don't. Likely got a bunch of trademarks and marketing stuff up and running. They are NOT abandoning the name. Wishful thinking! Same thing said for Wii and the name never changed. This isn't a code name it IS the name!

[Zulithe]

I fucking knew this would happen. As if the name botch on the 3DS wasn't already bad, they had to go and do it again.

Can't wait to see the video

[Neo C.]

Nintendo really should show the console itself. It's actually looks nice, why do they treat it like it's nonexistant?

[Talladega Knight]

I fucking knew this would happen. As if the name botch on the 3DS wasn't already bad, they had to go and do it again. Can't wait to see the video

as if the gameboy advance, super nintendo, xbox 360, etc, sold like shit

has nothing to do with the name

[disappeared]

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[Hiltz]

Nintendo really should show the console itself. It's actually looks nice, why do they treat it like it's nonexistant?

Funny you said that.

Iwata's exact words: “The console is not drastically different, and Wii U is about the controller. The console itself will be almost invisible."

[shadyspace]

Someone posted the full thing on Youtube. Looks like Reggie made sure to say it was a WiiU Console and Gamepad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZjkZf_TOkc

"It's Nintendo! It does everything!"


:/

[LeCapitan]

Uploaded the clip of Fallon calling it an addon here (temporarily): https://www.dropbox.com/s/v99rhmt6zd...allon-WiiU.m4v

Put this on Youtube already, sheesh.

[jokkir]

"It's Nintendo! It does everything!" :/

Nintendo partnering with Sony = confirmed

[outunderthestars]

as if the gameboy advance, super nintendo, xbox 360, etc, sold like shit has nothing to do with the name

It's everything about the way they've rolled out the system. The name is similar, the logo is similar, the console looks alot like a wii, they show people using wii motes and wii balance boards in the marketing, it uses the same Mii's, etc


How are casual audiences NOT supposed to get confused about it?

[Dreamwriter]

Nintendo really should show the console itself. It's actually looks nice, why do they treat it like it's nonexistant?

They did show it in this show, when they first showed the new hardware they showed the console next to the controller, held the camera for a while, and highlighted the fact that it was a new console with a new controller.

[Mistle]

Apart from the small blunder the actual segment went extremely well. Crowd seemed to love it and showed off the concept well. And great that they showed ZombiU!

Only thing I think they should have also done is show Mario, and also how you can play TV-less.

[Takao]

I can see this scenario occuring to mom's accross the nation in early December: "My kid wants some U tablet for his Wii...hmmm, I guess it must be this thingy here by Ubisoft."

Nintendo better hope THQ is dead by this holiday season:

[TTP]

Apart from the small blunder the actual segment went extremely well. Crowd seemed to love it and showed off the controller well. And great that they showed ZombiU!

You mean the people that get paid to cheer on command? Their reaction is hardly indicative of anything really.

[Mistle]

You mean the people that get paid to cheer on command? Their reaction is hardly indicative of anything really.

Ok sorry Nintendo are doomed

[Striek]

Whatever impact the name caused the 3DS is unquantifiable but I'm positive it is vastly overstated.

The 3DS had/has far more pressing issues (such as pricing and game availability) to explain its performance than "people didn't know it was a new system". Occam's razor.

Wii U will live/die by its games, pricing, and how well people respond to the controller. Marketing will do its job to let people know its out there.

[Mzo]

The WiiU console is like fucking bigfoot. You can catch glimpses of it in blurry still shots between the limbs of happy, well-dressed families flailing around.

[Touch]

Nintendo better hope THQ is dead by this holiday season:

Holy shit! This mistake will be legendary. :lol

[jokkir]

You mean the people that get paid to cheer on command? Their reaction is hardly indicative of anything really.

The crowd gets paid? I would love to be there!

[Bgamer90]

Nintendo better hope THQ is dead by this holiday season:

Wow... lol.

Doubt that will still be on the shelves though.

[TTP]

Ok sorry Nintendo are doomed

I'm not saying that. :D

Just saying that crowd reaction shouldn't be used to gauge general public response to what's being shown.

[outunderthestars]

Wow... lol. Doubt that will still be on the shelves though.

It's ubisoft, they'll probably manufacture another batch just for the Wii-U launch.

[Cramoss]

Come on, Nintendo.. there's still time to change the name!

[CountAntonius]

should have just went with Wii Too

[Bgamer90]

The WiiU console is like bigfoot. You can catch glimpses of it in blurry still shots between the limbs of happy, well-dressed families flailing around.

I laughed when I read this. Fits so well.

[Dueck]

I know a lot of casuals/parents consider the 3DS just another DS. The name needs to be upgraded further.

[ShortBus]

Weeoooo Weeeeeoooooo Cops are commin for you!

[Hobbestetrician]

The actual clip isn't nearly as bad as the shitstorm in this thread would lead me to believe. But I guess people will interpret that clip however they already see the system (me included).

So let's say someone thinks it is an add-on to the Wii they already own (and may or may not play regularly). They see the GamePad and what it can do (assuming some marketing showing some of its functions) and it rekindles their interest in the Wii (or because of their use of iDevices) so they go to the store to pick it up. They see a price tag of $250-299 (half the price of an iPad but pretty expensive for what they think is an add-on). At this point they can either 1) become disinterested because of price, 2) realize it is an all new console and still remain interested, or 3) still think it is an add-on for the Wii that allows them to do new things (like Kinect, which I am sure a lot of people didn't realize you needed a 360 for). Nintendo must be banking on the percentage of 2/3 is larger than 1 (and those that never reach these steps).

Sure, Nintendo may not be Apple and can just name the new iPad the 'iPad' and totally get away with it but the Wii brand is well-known by the population at large that keeping the Wii in the name is not a bad idea. It is going to be completely about marketing, not what Jimmy Fallon says to less than a million people 5 months before release.

And Super Wii would cause/not cause the same issues.

[Nibel]

Nintendo really should show the console itself. It's actually looks nice, why do they treat it like it's nonexistant?

The console looks terrible because it looks like a Goofy Wii - and this is even intended.

Why spend money on a good design for a box that is just the companion of a capable controller?

The Gamepad is everything you need. You'll get a small dockstation for it so that you can just grab it and play without doing anything with the console box itself.

[Mistle]

I'm not saying that. :D Just saying that crowd reaction shouldn't be used to gauge general public response to what's being shown.

True. I know they have like "applaud" signs, but a lot of the enthusiasm seemed genuine.