[Impeccable]

Is it just me or can you not save your screen settings? I can't see my HP or MP numbers with the default setting and I have to adjust the screen vertically every time I start the game.

My settings saved, I only had to do it once when I first started playing.

[barrin87]

I don't know, I'll give you that the story is nonexistant. It is no Final Fantasy Tactics. And don't get me wrong, I love Tactics, it's one of my all time favorite SRPGs (and RPGs in general). But I find the combat just as fun and addicting to play for this game, as well. There are some small annoyances, as the unique design on how to move, or that you can't actually count out the squares on the grid to know the spot you need to move to (like with Trisha's normal attack). I don't really think the hunger system was all that necessary, it doesn't add a whole lot except more management. But other than that, I enjoy the game just fine. Although as I said before, I am someone who enjoys grinding out the pearls. If someone doesn't like that, I can see why they might not like the game.

What exactly is the point of food? I don't even know what happens if you hit 0.

[Hobbun]

My settings saved, I only had to do it once when I first started playing.

Yes, same here.

What exactly is the point of food? I don't even know what happens if you hit 0.

When you reach 0, you start taking damage. At least that's what I've read from the dev's blogs, I've never reached 0 yet, myself.

Played a few more hours yesterday. Reached Odar (?) and I think I am close to picking up Dozeru, I'm in his dungeon, now.

I finally ran into a tavern, I don't really think they are worth it. The biggest benefit is filling your food bar completely, but they only fill your hp's up partially. The problem is they are too expensive, they wanted like 14 RC. I guess it would be worthwhile if your food was dangerously low, but I have rarely gotten that low. And with the skill that makes food, I've never had any concerns on running out.

Found the scroll dealer in Odar. They have a lot of nice scrolls that I want, including the Amulet License. I am thinking about grinding some more RCs before I move on. Even though I'm in the dungeon to attain Dozeru, I'm not really sure how much of it I have left.

[MrDanger88]

I heard there was no new game+

How is anyone supposed to get a character to level 500 then?

[saveweyard]

I heard there was no new game+ How is anyone supposed to get a character to level 500 then?

The game goes on after you beat the main storyline. enemies up to lvl 999

[krae_man]

I just got my third party member as well. I wish I could level specific characters but I can't yet. I haven't checked what level he is but I'm sure he's a couple levels behind my other two. Oh well I guess I can fix that when I get a 4th party member and switch them in and out. This island is massive. I usually walk around everywhere I can before I complete quests but this place just keeps going and going.

Also, I'm starting to wish side quest NPC's were displayed on the minimap. I found two honeycombs but completely forgot who gave me that sidequest. I eventually found the person but it took talking to about a dozen people.

[Hobbun]

I just got my third party member as well. I wish I could level specific characters but I can't yet. I haven't checked what level he is but I'm sure he's a couple levels behind my other two. Oh well I guess I can fix that when I get a 4th party member and switch them in and out. This island is massive. I usually walk around everywhere I can before I complete quests but this place just keeps going and going.

Well, still haven’t picked up Dozeru. There was some more involvement in attaining him than I originally thought. However, I am pretty sure I am close now. There is actually a boss (Walking Death) that is blocking Dozeru’s treasure chest, and therefore his armor, which I need before he will join me. However, I had some issues with the boss, so I’m going to build up a bit. And it’s not so much my level, but I only have two Small potions, and they are quite expensive. The Tiny potions are pretty useless for my HPs. So I need to build up some RCs.

Also, I'm starting to wish side quest NPC's were displayed on the minimap. I found two honeycombs but completely forgot who gave me that sidequest. I eventually found the person but it took talking to about a dozen people.

Yes, it would be nice if we could choose a current quest and have a quest marker on the map. I know the game is old school in a lot of ways, but there just have been some changes that are for the good in regards to the genre, and having quest markers is one of them.

[krae_man]

Well, still haven’t picked up Dozeru. There was some more involvement in attaining him than I originally thought. However, I am pretty sure I am close now. There is actually a boss (Walking Death) that is blocking Dozeru’s treasure chest, and therefore his armor, which I need before he will join me. However, I had some issues with the boss, so I’m going to build up a bit. And it’s not so much my level, but I only have two Small potions, and they are quite expensive. The Tiny potions are pretty useless for my HPs. So I need to build up some RCs. Yes, it would be nice if we could choose a current quest and have a quest marker on the map. I know the game is old school in a lot of ways, but there just have been some changes that are for the good in regards to the genre, and having quest markers is one of them.

Man Dozeru is 6 levels behind my other two party member. I really need that 4th party member so I can swap people in and out and get them all to the same level.

[Hobbun]

You don’t really need to swap out characters to get Dozeru to the same level as everyone else. Just for the fact he needs less experience (due to being lower level) he will eventually catch up. That is what happened with Trisha when I picked her up. She was three levels behind my hero and she is now at the same level.

[toythatkills]

You don’t really need to swap out characters to get Dozeru to the same level as everyone else. Just for the fact he needs less experience (due to being lower level) he will eventually catch up. That is what happened with Trisha when I picked her up. She was three levels behind my hero and she is now at the same level.

It's not the EXP that's the problem with him, it's the pearls. He's not only lower level when you get him but he's also really slow, so even when he does finally get to attack something it's difficult to land killing blows.

Put the few pearls you get for him into speed before EVERYTHING else. And give him some speed buffs on his weapons/armour too. It'll make levelling him much easier.

[krae_man]

Yeah I've noticed that the amount of XP per level goes up drastically so they sort of "catch up". Being 6 levels behind is say 4000xp right now but eventually it'll be 5000xp to level up soon enough and he'll only be one level behind at worst shortly. I still with I could catch him up exactly without having characters die in battle and waste the exp they would get(since the other characters don't get it instead).

[Hobbun]

It's not the EXP that's the problem with him, it's the pearls. He's not only lower level when you get him but he's also really slow, so even when he does finally get to attack something it's difficult to land killing blows. Put the few pearls you get for him into speed before EVERYTHING else. And give him some speed buffs on his weapons/armour too. It'll make levelling him much easier.

Ahh, ok. I will keep that in mind when I eventually get him. But the best thing to combat that, and it is how I am saving up (grinding) pearls at the moment, but I just go after monsters on the beginning island. Imps, Bees and Wannabe Heroes. He should be able to kill those creatures easily enough as well as racking up the pearls, especially on Moon Day.

I also have a bunch of permanent stat boosts (most of the types) saved for him. Probably in the area of 11-12 of them, so that should help.

[krae_man]

I find the southpost mines is the best area to pearl grind. You get groups of 6-10 enemies you can 1 hit kill. That plus you can get shear wing drops which you can get 6-10 rainbow coins for each from the sidequest.

[Hobbun]

That's a great idea, I will go to the mines from now on.

I just picked up Dozeru so I think I'm going to grind over there a bit. In some serious need of coins, as I blew quite a bit buying small potions for the big boss fight. I blew through all but 2, but fortunately got 2 more back in the chest with the helmet.

[krae_man]

I'm going to need to do about 4 hours of pearl grinding for Dozeru. I did about 2 hours worth to get enough to max his stats, now I just need some more for for the level gap for when I eventually catch up.

[ban25]

So, can anyone give me advice? Any input would be much appreciated. Who is in your party (and why)?

Baldren, Trisha, and Serena. Serena has great AOE, which is extremely useful against large groups of enemies.

[Finaika]

Wow nice. Didn't see this one coming.

We need more good JRPGs.

[Coxy]

one tiny improvement I'd like to see is a much longer Turn order bar

[Absoludacrous]

Alright, caved in and bought it after watching the Giant Bomb QL. It pretty much confirmed C-tier status, but there is definitely something addictive with the way the stat system is set up. I think at this point buying the DLC would kill the thing I'm enjoying the most, which is scrimping by with what feels like nothing.

[krae_man]

Oh Shit:

*Runs away*

Just made it to dudes basement. I also just had to sell a crap ton of crafting parts. I almost maxed out those inventory slots. I hope there isn't a "Bring me 90 bleached bones" quest because I don't have that many anymore:lol. Gave me tons of money so I was able to buy some new spells and the second armlet license.

[Abylim]

Picked this up friday night, somehow sunk 24 hours into this, within about 48 hours.
I did buy the DLC that gives everyone 50k pearls + all the rings, but I figure $30 is not bad for a game like this.

I'm really enjoying it. I do love grindan games (Disgaea and played the shit out of RO and L2 back in the day) but it seems like a lot of thought went into where healers and stuff are. It was my main annoyance to get to the dungeon, then fight for a bit, then have to trek all the way back to a town to heal. You dont have to do that in this. The combat is good(love my SRPG) and the graphics dont bug me at all (I still play SNES on my PSP).

All in all I love it, want more!

[Impeccable]

It was my main annoyance to get to the dungeon, then fight for a bit, then have to trek all the way back to a town to heal. Y

Very good point, they cleverly placed them so it's right when you're almost about to go back you see what you need around the next corner.

[Abylim]

Its very clever. I just find it so easy to grind. Truth be told, I get in the mood for this kind of stuff, but dont like the fragmented mission structure of Disgaea.

I only stopped because I realised I'm starving, and that I've played a days worth in 48 hours.

I could see myself getting sick of pearl grinding, I hope more drop soon. I'm at Endless Passage and I'm still only getting like 10-30 in a fight.

[JonStark]

IS this PS3 or Vita ? Not mentionned in OP (or missed it)

[spats]

IS this PS3 or Vita ? Not mentionned in OP (or missed it)

PS3, but they're considering a Vita version.

[JonStark]

Let's hope they make the right choice then :D

[Maastricht]

Yeah no kidding. Should be perfect for Vita and if they can get it out fast I think it will sell really well.

[Impeccable]

What would everyone like to see in a patch?

I'm with you guys when I say generic WoW-styled sub-quest markers.

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Yeah no kidding. Should be perfect for Vita and if they can get it out fast I think it will sell really well.

I know that's what I am waiting on.

BTW, How is the story in this game? Or is there even one? lol

[toythatkills]

BTW, How is the story in this game? Or is there even one? lol

At one point you have to save a town by collecting the ingredients to bake a cake. I believe that answers your question ;)

[krae_man]

I have a 4th party member now. Kind of funny how He was level 20 when I had to defeat him to get him to join my party. But he was only level 14 when he did join.

Now for some more pearl grinding.

I also managed to complete the second part of the dungeon in the top right corner of the map. Third part starts with a level 41 character.

[Hobbun]

I've put a lot of time in since posting last. My hero and Trisha are both 15, Dozeru is 14.

Went and explored Temwall Castle, got all the way to the end (at least what I can finish now), and ran into Red Death. I didn't even attempt him as he is level 22, and has 18 of his buddies.

I'm thinking "Ok, I'll go explore the Ochre Swamp area, as I have the key." Did alright in there, although an Imp Leader obliterated Trisha with their ranged poison flask attack. But, picked up the quest from the farmer (can't remember his name) and made my way over to the Queen Bee. Um, yeah. Level 20 Not ready for that, either.

So I think I'm just going to build up some more funds, pearls, and then levels, for now, maybe go explore Stormlord's Den some more.

[barrin87]

I normally won't buy DLC that adds in game items unless it's story based DLC. I wanted to be able to play this without having to spend dozens of hours before I would have enough pearls to level everything up. I broke down last night and bought money and pearls for the game and I am greatly enjoying this game now.

My main character and Trisha are each around level 13 and I just got Dozeru who I have at level 9.

[krae_man]

Man it's going to be hard to use different party members later. I've got so much invested in the ones I've currently got. Especially considering spells go way up in price if someone already has them equipped. I'll probably add someone with magic to the mix but that's about it.

Question, does the game remove characters from your party or make you do battles with specific characters at any point? Or are you safe to stick with what you like and completely ignore the other members?

Edit: I just found a hidden cave. There's one of those green fire squares blocking your way right at the beginning so I can't do anything. The enemies look badass so that's probably a good thing.

Edit 2: Man this second island goes on forever. Right after I got the 4th party member, I decided to go as far as the game would let me before continuing on with the main quest. I found a massive cave with a side quest in it, I completed part of another side quest, and I snagged a few rainbow medals. Also got some better armor with 4 slots in them to boot! Oh and a ton of rainbow coins.

[Hobbun]

Edit 2: Man this second island goes on forever. Right after I got the 4th party member, I decided to go as far as the game would let me before continuing on with the main quest. I found a massive cave with a side quest in it, I completed part of another side quest, and I snagged a few rainbow medals. Also got some better armor with 4 slots in them to boot! Oh and a ton of rainbow coins.

Are you still talking about the second continent (not including the small one to the east of the beginning island)? The furthest I’ve gone is a dungeon (northeast of Temwall, can’t remember the name of it.

How many continents are in the game? I heard there are over 20 dungeons, but some of them can only be accessed post-game.

[krae_man]

Are you still talking about the second continent (not including the small one to the east of the beginning island)? The furthest I’ve gone is a dungeon (northeast of Temwall, can’t remember the name of it. How many continents are in the game? I heard there are over 20 dungeons, but some of them can only be accessed post-game.

Yes, I am. Part of it is a swamp and I got a trophy for completing that part. There's still parts of it I can't get to as well. I think there's still a couple of gates I need keys for and there's a tree blocking a path on the far east side you'll need an axe or something to chop down or a Pokemon with Cut.

[barrin87]

I am about to get my fourth party member but I need to go through his house to pick up his bag. Got to the very end and was getting demolished by the boss. I shut the game off halfway through the battle after my first party member died so I might have to grind a little before I try again.

[Dogfacedgod]

I'm not too far into this game but I'm really liking it.

Is anyone else getting a Heroes of Might and Magic vibe from this game? I'm constantly telling myself "one more battle...just one more.....okay, this is really it..."

[Hobbun]

Yes, I am. Part of it is a swamp and I got a trophy for completing that part. There's still parts of it I can't get to as well. I think there's still a couple of gates I need keys for and there's a tree blocking a path on the far east side you'll need an axe or something to chop down or a Pokemon with Cut.

Is that the Ochre Swamp? I had explored that, and picked the quest to kill the Queen Bee, but when I found it it was 5 levels above me, I passed for now.

One thing that is minorly annoying is I have gotten axes/picks to chop down trees or break away rocks, but they are one use only. So any additional tree you need to chop down, or additional rock you need to destroy, you need another axe/pick. I just wish you picked up the tool and kept it for good.

[krae_man]

Is that the Ochre Swamp? I had explored that, and picked the quest to kill the Queen Bee, but when I found it it was 5 levels above me, I passed for now. One thing that is minorly annoying is I have gotten axes/picks to chop down trees or break away rocks, but they are one use only. So any additional tree you need to chop down, or additional rock you need to destroy, you need another axe/pick. I just wish you picked up the tool and kept it for good.

Yep, that's the place. I don't have the Queen Bee quest completed yet. When I found the quest giver, I already had the first part completed but not the second. I guess either I missed it or it doesn't spawn until the first part is completed. Guess I'll have to go back and find it.

[Arpeggio23]

Every time I read this thread, I think this game sounds really good. Then I watch videos of it on YouTube, and I think this game doesn't look that good. But then I read this thread again, and you guys make it sound like it's really good. But then I watch YouTube videos again, and.... Stop confusing me!

[Hobbun]

Yep, that's the place. I don't have the Queen Bee quest completed yet. When I found the quest giver, I already had the first part completed but not the second. I guess either I missed it or it doesn't spawn until the first part is completed. Guess I'll have to go back and find it.

Ok, what part are you talking about completing the first part in that swamp area? I killed some of the Leader Imps, but I don’t remember getting any trophies for doing so.

Will need to double-check when I play again.

Every time I read this thread, I think this game sounds really good. Then I watch videos of it on YouTube, and I think this game doesn't look that good. But then I read this thread again, and you guys make it sound like it's really good. But then I watch YouTube videos again, and.... Stop confusing me!

I find it extremely fun and addicting. If you enjoy SRPGs, you will most likely enjoy this. The only warning I have is it can be very grind intensive, especially if you choose Hard difficulty. Although, and even though I’m not a fan of it, that can be alleviated with the DLC for pearls/coins.

May I ask what it is you don’t like in the videos?

[krae_man]

The guy that gives you the Queen Bee quest gives you another one first. Whatever it was, I already had the necessary items when I initially found him. BTW the secret area I found in near there. Go have a look. I was just searching corners and dead ends for hidden coins and boom secret area.

The trophy says "Discover and enter the Ochre Swamp an optional area in Rainbow Moon". I didn't get it right away however so I'm not sure what triggers it.

[Hobbun]

Ok, I remember completing that quest. So I must have gotten the trophy.

Did you end up finding a way to open the second door in Southport Mines?

Edit: Question for you guys, I see two areas in the Southport mines I can't access. One area is behind a door that would require a switch and the other is behind a message that says "You need X key to open this". What did I miss? I'm just grinding here for pearls and the areas being unexplored is bugging the completionist in me.

The door that requires a key you won't get until much later, but I did figure out how to open that second door in the west part of the dungeon, the one that needs a switch.

The switch is actually *right* next (south) to the switch that opens the door by the entrance, the door directly above the Savant.

I noticed I had not opened the door, either. And started searching around for the switch and had a "Duh!" moment when I found it right next to the other switch. I just completely missed it. I am guessing you did the same.

If you haven't found it yet, I suggest you do so, there is quite a bit of treasure back there. May be kind of low for your level now, but coins are coins and there is also an Expander and a Magic Light spell.

[krae_man]

Thank you, I'll do that right now. I bought that one spell already :(

[Hobbun]

Yeah, I had bought it already, as well. But it doesn't hurt to have two people have it, or, you can just sell it.

[Absoludacrous]

Every time I read this thread, I think this game sounds really good. Then I watch videos of it on YouTube, and I think this game doesn't look that good. But then I read this thread again, and you guys make it sound like it's really good. But then I watch YouTube videos again, and.... Stop confusing me!

Honestly everything about the game is kind of sub par, except the character progression system which is addictive as hell. If you like the genre give it a shot. If you don't know if you like the genre, go get one of the better games like Final Fantasy Tactics, Tactics Ogre, Fire Emblem, Disgaea, Growlanser, etc.

[UNCyrus]

What party members are you guys rolling with? I have all characters unlocked, but still keep the original 3 members. FYI, I'm level 55.

[Arpeggio23]

May I ask what it is you don’t like in the videos?

I generally don't like to critique games, especially in threads where people are expressing enthusiasm over the game. However, in answer to your question, I would say that the animations are a bit simple for a PS3 game (trite complaint for a SRPG, I know), and even though "slow-paced" is to be expected in an SRPG, the game strikes me as being just a bit too-slow-paced, especially with an overworld, exploratory setting. I can understand slow-paced battles in Final Fantasy Tactics and Tactics Ogre, where you generally move from one battle to the next. But I imagine constantly, randomly encountering long battles while trying to explore the lay of the land must get frustrating after a while.

I'm glad people are enjoying it, however, and I can see its appeal. I'm just not sure if it is right for me.

[Impeccable]

But I imagine constantly, randomly encountering long battles while trying to explore the lay of the land must get frustrating after a while.

There are no random battles really. You only do those if you want to.