[barrin87]

Oh right, the bugs (don’t know the name of the MP one). I’ve put permanent MP increases into Dozeru as well, but I’ve only found the small versions so far (+1). I’ve found a couple medium bugs, but they only went up to +4, and they were not for MP.

Dozeru has a lower amount of MP but I still find my other two characters running out of MP before he does. Probably because Dozeru's abilities cost less than the others.

[Hobbun]

Does anyone know how to get into the Ochre Swamp? The enemies that are in the area look weak but I haven't figured out how to get there.

Do you know where the healer is in the southeast corner of Hopper Woods? Continue to go south, and then west from there. The entrance should be in that area.

[barrin87]

You have to make your way to the North east corner of Euran around the Moos Stone Swamp, and work your way down from there. There's a couple of ways through Hopper Forrest that can get you there but it's easiest to start at the Moos Stone swamp and go down from there.

Do you know where the healer is in the southeast corner of Hopper Woods? Continue to go south, and then west from there. The entrance should be in that area.

I know where the entrance to the swamp is but I don't know how to get in it. It's blocked by a gate and it says I need the Ochre Swamp Key but I have no idea where to get that.

I did just realize that I missed a cave in the area which I went through yesterday but all that was in there was a quest with some crazy old guy that needed help.

[krae_man]

I know where the entrance to the swamp is but I don't know how to get in it. It's blocked by a gate and it says I need the Ochre Swamp Key but I have no idea where to get that. I did just realize that I missed a cave in the area which I went through yesterday but all that was in there was a quest with some crazy old guy that needed help.

There's a tiny town to the south of that area, I think ta NPC there gives you the key.

[barrin87]

There's a tiny town to the south of that area, I think ta NPC there gives you the key.

Hmm, I remember a place with like two people there. There might have been a guy next to a cauldron? I'll have the same try going back there when I can.

[Hobbun]

Played a little more last night. Didn’t do a whole lot except work on Gorodo a bit and explored part of the area west of Orda. What happened to his 4,000 HPs!

Oh, and I was mistaken. Apparently the stats go up to 9,999, not 999. So there are lots of levels where you can put pearls towards Strength, Defense, Speed and Luck.

[barrin87]

Played a little more last night. Didn’t do a whole lot except work on Gorodo a bit and explored part of the area west of Orda. What happened to his 4,000 HPs! Oh, and I was mistaken. Apparently the stats go up to 9,999, not 999. So there are lots of levels where you can put pearls towards Strength, Defense, Speed and Luck.

Cool, that's good that the max stats aren't as low as thought before.

I still can't find how to enter the Ocher Swamp so I will come back to that later. I found an area above Hopper Forest that I had missed somehow and I opened a tiny area up there but there wasn't that much of interest up there.

I am now East of Dead Lake Desert in the area where everybody actually is a monster and not just turned with a frog spell. I fought the skeleton boss over there and he was completely kicking my ass. I actually had to use to Revival Seeds to keep going through the battle. It was a good thing he didn't kill any other characters since I only had two seeds on me.

I started running into enemies that can put Daze on you which is really annoying. I was able to buy a passive skill which negates the ability though which was nice. Now I just need enough skill points to have the skills to negate bound, poison, and daze. Not as many enemies are currently casting bound on me so I traded that skill for the one which triples my skill experience.

[Hobbun]

Sorry, I wish I remembered where I picked up the Ochre Swamp key, but I think it was in a treasure chest in one of the dungeons. I just can’t remember which one.

Fortunately I haven’t run into Daze yet, but I had the tutorial on it and it sounds nasty. I can see why that would be very annoying.

A passive skill that triples XP? Wow, that’s quite nice. Certainly a skill I would want everyone to equip right away as I wouldn’t want the other party members falling so far behind.

How does that work with your double XP rings you received through the DLC? Do the rings increase it even more, or does the skill override the rings?

[barrin87]

Sorry, I wish I remembered where I picked up the Ochre Swamp key, but I think it was in a treasure chest in one of the dungeons. I just can’t remember which one. Fortunately I haven’t run into Daze yet, but I had the tutorial on it and it sounds nasty. I can see why that would be very annoying. A passive skill that triples XP? Wow, that’s quite nice. Certainly a skill I would want everyone to equip right away as I wouldn’t want the other party members falling so far behind. How does that work with your double XP rings you received through the DLC? Do the rings increase it even more, or does the skill override the rings?

Oh it's alright. I will find how to get the Ocher Swamp Key eventually. It's just annoying me since I have passed that area a dozen times and haven't been able to get into it.

Daze is really annoying since you can't attack. I would rather have poison or bound status on a character since there is still a chance to attack enemies.

Sorry, I might not have made that very clear. The passive skill just raises your experience for active skills and not for character level experience. So I am getting triple the experience when I use an attack skill in battle.

[Hobbun]

Ahh, ok. So it triples the amount of points gained when using skills. Even still, a very nice passive skill. Would be something I would give to everyone. How many skill points does it cost to equip?

Have you noticed that when purchasing some skills, they increase in price when buying subsequent times? Where some are not affected?

For example, with Haste, I believe it started around 450 RCs. Where now, it is over 800. However, Fruit Rain has remained the same in multiple purchases. I wanted to buy Haste for Gorodo, but just don’t want to put that much coin down right now.

[barrin87]

Ahh, ok. So it triples the amount of points gained when using skills. Even still, a very nice passive skill. Would be something I would give to everyone. How many skill points does it cost to equip? Have you noticed that when purchasing some skills, they increase in price when buying subsequent times? Where some are not affected? For example, with Haste, I believe it started around 450 RCs. Where now, it is over 800. However, Fruit Rain has remained the same in multiple purchases. I wanted to buy Haste for Gorodo, but just don’t want to put that much coin down right now.

I think the skill costs 4-5 points to equip. It's an expensive spell to buy though. First one was 2,500 RC, second was some where around 4,000, and third was around 7,000.

I have noticed how some skills raise in price after you buy one. The price seems to only stay the same for the low skills.

[Hobbun]

Wow, you’ve made far more money than myself. The most I’ve ever had at once is around 1,400 RC. Or do you have extra RC from DLC, also?

I would like to find a good spot for grinding some RC, as my areas near Cassar is getting to be just a little too low (in earning money), now.

Maybe I should sell some of my newer materials, but I have always been one to hold onto them ‘just in case’. Would hate to sell off a bunch of materials and find out they are used for a quest later on.

[barrin87]

Wow, you’ve made far more money than myself. The most I’ve ever had at once is around 1,400 RC. Or do you have extra RC from DLC, also? I would like to find a good spot for grinding some RC, as my areas near Cassar is getting to be just a little too low (in earning money), now. Maybe I should sell some of my newer materials, but I have always been one to hold onto them ‘just in case’. Would hate to sell off a bunch of materials and find out they are used for a quest later on.

Hardly, I just bought the DLC with provided me with 90,000 coins. What is really sad is that I am now down to 27,000 coins.

I honestly think I would only be half as far as I currently am if I didn't buy any DLC. That's why I am perfectly happy with spending the extra money on the DLC. It was completely worth it in this game.

Most materials are fine to sell if they don't add towards a skill. I have only seen one or two items that have been needed for quests.

[Hobbun]

Hardly, I just bought the DLC with provided me with 90,000 coins. What is really sad is that I am now down to 27,000 coins. I honestly think I would only be half as far as I currently am if I didn't buy any DLC. That's why I am perfectly happy with spending the extra money on the DLC. It was completely worth it in this game.

Hey, that's cool. Whatever works for you in making the experience more enjoyable. That's really what matters, right?

Most materials are fine to sell if they don't add towards a skill. I have only seen one or two items that have been needed for quests.

I've run into about 6-7 repeatable quests (in acquiring materials) and probably 3-4 other one time quests where you give materials.

I'm pretty sure there are going to be more quests, which is why I am hesitant on selling anything.

As for crafting, not only the materials that give stats are the useful ones. There are other materials that will give benefits, as well.

For example, the different colored crystals. They will upgrade your weapons to + status. The level in power of the weapon is dependant on what color crystal you would use. Like the white crystals are used for the less powerful weapons.

However, if you look at the white crystal description, it says "this item would be good to sell, some would find it valuable" or something along those lines. So even then, unless you test each material, you really don't know if it is safe to sell.

[barrin87]

Hey, that's cool. Whatever works for you in making the experience more enjoyable. That's really what matters, right? I've run into about 6-7 repeatable quests (in acquiring materials) and probably 3-4 other one time quests where you give materials. I'm pretty sure there are going to be more quests, which is why I am hesitant on selling anything. As for crafting, not only the materials that give stats are the useful ones. There are other materials that will give benefits, as well. For example, the different colored crystals. They will upgrade your weapons to + status. The level in power of the weapon is dependant on what color crystal you would use. Like the white crystals are used for the less powerful weapons. However, if you look at the white crystal description, it says "this item would be good to sell, some would find it valuable" or something along those lines. So even then, unless you test each material, you really don't know if it is safe to sell.

True, as long as I am liking the game it was worth the money for me.

Wow, I had no idea that items that don't directly state a stat increase can be used for upgrades. I have just been selling the majority of them! I guess I will have to start trying that tonight.

[Impeccable]

True, as long as I am liking the game it was worth the money for me. Wow, I had no idea that items that don't directly state a stat increase can be used for upgrades. I have just been selling the majority of them! I guess I will have to start trying that tonight.

Mother of God, I've been selling all but the stat items too.

What have I done?

[Level 57 now]

[Hobbun]

Yeah, I only found out about it on another forum (can’t remember if it was the official Rainbow Moon forum, or over at GF).

Guess I’m going to have to go and test each material (that doesn’t already have stat bonuses).

The other thing I noticed is some materials of the same kind, are more expensive than others. It makes sense when a Sheer Wing gives a +4 instead of a +1, I can see why that Sheer Wing is more expensive.

However, like with Copper Ore, which does not give any indication of stat increase for crafting, normally they sell for 7 RC, but then I have a couple of them that sell for 35 RC.

Will have to test tonight (if I have time) or tomorrow to see if you can craft with Copper Ore, and if so, what that 35 RC version gives you.

[barrin87]

Mother of God, I've been selling all but the stat items too. What have I done? [Level 57 now]

Ha ha, well I guess I am not the only one that have been wasting all of them. Luckily most of the items can always be collected again and the items get better as you progress through the game. I don't think it would change that much beyond have a slighter ease with battles.

[Absoludacrous]

So far I've managed to avoid buying any DLC. Kind of hit a brick wall after getting the 4th character though. I've been under-leveled for a while, but now I'm getting to a point where I'm getting killed by those one-eyed mechs before I can even act.

[LOVE & TRUTH]

EastAsiaSoft asks for additional support:

http://www.eastasiasoft.com/index.ph...e-rainbow-moon

I think I'll buy Söldner X-2 to support them, even though I don't like shmups. Maybe I'll be able to play it on the lowest difficulty. :)

[Hobbun]

Not a huge shooter fan, either. But maybe I’ll buy Soldner X-2 to support them.

I did buy Rainbow Moon’s official soundtrack.

[barrin87]

EastAsiaSoft asks for additional support: http://www.eastasiasoft.com/index.ph...e-rainbow-moon I think I'll buy Söldner X-2 to support them, even though I don't like shmups. Maybe I'll be able to play it on the lowest difficulty. :)

I already spent $9 in DLC for Rainbow Moon, isn't that enough?!?!? =D

I feel like a complete idiot now over the Ocher Swamp. Apparently I wasn't supposed to get through the locked gate and instead get there by the raft. I had never even thought of that idea before! Up to level 43 right now.

[Coxy]

I already spent $9 in DLC for Rainbow Moon, isn't that enough?!?!? =D I feel like a complete idiot now over the Ocher Swamp. Apparently I wasn't supposed to get through the locked gate and instead get there by the raft. I had never even thought of that idea before! Up to level 43 right now.

no, you are supposed to go through the locked gate, I did it back when I was like level 16, I forget where I got the key though

[krae_man]

Man I haven't played the game in a while. I need to get back on the horse.

[Hobbun]

I feel like a complete idiot now over the Ocher Swamp. Apparently I wasn't supposed to get through the locked gate and instead get there by the raft. I had never even thought of that idea before! Up to level 43 right now.

Sorry I can’t remember where I got the key from, but Coxy is right, you do go through the locked gate. I’m pretty certain it’s in a chest in one of the dungeons up to that point. However, if you still can’t find it, then I would pose the question on the official forums. You may even get an answer from Marcus of SideQuest, he’s pretty active on the forum.

Well, I tested some of my materials last night in regards to crafting. The only non-stat increasing material I’ve found that are usable so far are the different colored crystals. The remaining (non-stat increasing) materials just tell me it can’t be merged for crafting. Of course, I can't speak for future materials, as there has been a lot of them I haven't acquired.

Oh, also found out the reason for the differing sell price of my Copper Ore. The reason a few of them were 35 RC, instead of the 7 for the rest of mine, is they were looted from higher level creatures.

Right now I’m just working on building up my newest character, trying to get him a little caught up. I’ve added two levels onto him so far.

[barrin87]

no, you are supposed to go through the locked gate, I did it back when I was like level 16, I forget where I got the key though

Well either way the key isn't a requirement since I was able to get there with the raft instead. I won't bother with the key now that I was able to do that.

Well, I tested some of my materials last night in regards to crafting. The only non-stat increasing material I’ve found that are usable so far are the different colored crystals. The remaining (non-stat increasing) materials just tell me it can’t be merged for crafting. Of course, I can't speak for future materials, as there has been a lot of them I haven't acquired.

I tried the same thing yesterday. The only non stat increase item that can be used on weapons and armor are the crystals from what I have seen so far. I guess I will stick with selling the others.

[Hobbun]

Well either way the key isn't a requirement since I was able to get there with the raft instead. I won't bother with the key now that I was able to do that.

It may be worthwhile to eventually get the key and open up the gate. If you do that Red Mushroom quest often, there are additional mushrooms (I think at least 2) in the Ochre Swamp area. And it would be a lot less time consuming walking there than taking a raft each time. But it’s up to you.

I tried the same thing yesterday. The only non stat increase item that can be used on weapons and armor are the crystals from what I have seen so far. I guess I will stick with selling the others.

You may want to keep testing new non-stat materials when you acquire them. I heard Essence of Moon (or something similar to that) is also craftable, and is a non-stat material.

[krae_man]

Has anyone encountered stat boosting items better then the ones that add +5 into everything? I've been putting every one of those I get into my glittering something.

[barrin87]

It may be worthwhile to eventually get the key and open up the gate. If you do that Red Mushroom quest often, there are additional mushrooms (I think at least 2) in the Ochre Swamp area. And it would be a lot less time consuming walking there than taking a raft each time. But it’s up to you. You may want to keep testing new non-stat materials when you acquire them. I heard Essence of Moon (or something similar to that) is also craftable, and is a non-stat material.

Does the Red Mushroom quest rewards keep getting better? I am getting small herbs from the woman right now but I haven't bothered lately since I haven't really needed them. If I get the key eventually that will be great but I'm not going to go out of my way right now to find the key but if I happen to come across it somehow then great. Especially since I am not sure what dungeon it's even in. I did have to go back into the Southport Mines for a new quest so maybe I will have to go back into whichever dungeon the key is in later.

Has anyone encountered stat boosting items better then the ones that add +5 into everything? I've been putting every one of those I get into my glittering something.

+5 to every stat is the max item boosting material I have seen so far. I haven't used any of them though since I was trying to save them for something better.

[Hobbun]

Does the Red Mushroom quest rewards keep getting better? I am getting small herbs from the woman right now but I haven't bothered lately since I haven't really needed them. If I get the key eventually that will be great but I'm not going to go out of my way right now to find the key but if I happen to come across it somehow then great. Especially since I am not sure what dungeon it's even in. I did have to go back into the Southport Mines for a new quest so maybe I will have to go back into whichever dungeon the key is in later.

So you are getting the Small Herbs, not the tiny ones? It has maxed out to small, for me as well, but the reward could improve the more times you do the quest. I know the Honeycomb quest has improved for me twice now.

But even if it doesn't improve, a Small Herb is worth 20 RC, so it’s pretty good coin. Although that may not be as much of a factor for you in having the Rainbow Coin DLC. I need every coin I can get!

+5 to every stat is the max item boosting material I have seen so far. I haven't used any of them though since I was trying to save them for something better.

+5 to each stat? Wow, would love to see one of those, haven't had anything near that for materials, yet.

[krae_man]

It's called *something* Essance and it's in a green bottle IIRC.

[Hobbun]

Is it an enemy drop? Or have you only found it in chests/bags on the overworld?

[barrin87]

So you are getting the Small Herbs, not the tiny ones? It has maxed out to small, for me as well, but the reward could improve the more times you do the quest. I know the Honeycomb quest has improved for me twice now. But even if it doesn't improve, a Small Herb is worth 20 RC, so it’s pretty good coin. Although that may not be as much of a factor for you in having the Rainbow Coin DLC. I need every coin I can get! +5 to each stat? Wow, would love to see one of those, haven't had anything near that for materials, yet.

I haven't done the Red Mushroom and Honeycomb quests more than a few times each so for all I know they might get better. They have both upgraded twice so far for me.

I haven't worried about money as much before but I am starting to since I have used 2/3 of the RC DLC. I am down to around 27,000 coins.

I think the +5 stat item is called the Emerald Essence. I think I have picked them up from a couple of chests and some boss drops.

[Hobbun]

I haven't done the Red Mushroom and Honeycomb quests more than a few times each so for all I know they might get better. They have both upgraded twice so far for me.

Yes, same here. I am guessing they each only upgrade twice. I have found the recent upgrade to the Honeycomb quest works really well for me as it gives out two Potions now and I go through healing a lot faster than I do using the herbs. I usually sell the herbs, but as I said, it is good money for me.

I think the +5 stat item is called the Emerald Essence. I think I have picked them up from a couple of chests and some boss drops.

Ok, so it isn’t anything that you can get consistently (random encounter, respawning monster) if you wanted to grind for them. Unless bosses respawn, which I haven’t noticed them doing so, yet.

I will keep a lookout for the item, thanks.

[krae_man]

Yeah I think I got it in secret treasure chests. One of them was in that dungeon on that tiny island west of Euran. It was that first portal maze dungeon. One of the portals took me to a room with nothing in it but a sign and I walked along all the walls and found a hidden passage way into a room with a couple of treasure bags full of kick ass stuff.

I tend to go through every nook and cranny of every dungeon when I can. I gave up on that second portal heavy dungeon though. It was pissing me off.

[Hobbun]

Yeah I think I got it in secret treasure chests. One of them was in that dungeon on that tiny island west of Euran. It was that first portal maze dungeon. One of the portals took me to a room with nothing in it but a sign and I walked along all the walls and found a hidden passage way into a room with a couple of treasure bags full of kick ass stuff.

I haven't been to that island yet. Still running around on Euran. Don't even have the boat yet.

I tend to go through every nook and cranny of every dungeon when I can. I gave up on that second portal heavy dungeon though. It was pissing me off.

Yeah, I've heard some of those heavy portal dungeons can be...frustrating, to say the least. Not looking forward to them.

[krae_man]

It gets even bigger. That land mass is well massive.

[Impeccable]

I agree about portal dungeons... there is one coming up for you guys that is the worst for the need to 100% a dungeon there's literally about 100 portals all with paths etc.

I wish this was transfarring with my Vita, the amount of times I want to grind out a bit while laying in bed.

[Hobbun]

It gets even bigger. That land mass is well massive.

Yeah, I will admit I've seen a world map. Euran is by far the biggest continent. The area west of Ordan just opened up for me. In a sense, it's kind of disappointing that the biggest area is reached so early.

I agree about portal dungeons... there is one coming up for you guys that is the worst for the need to 100% a dungeon there's literally about 100 portals all with paths etc.

The developers have said on the official forums the best thing to do is just map them. Which is what I plan on doing.

[krae_man]

What like Pen and paper? I haven't done that since Jurassic Park on the SNES.

[Hobbun]

It’s just a suggestion.

I guess you can use your iPad/iPhone if you have one and have an app to do so. But pen and paper is how I always did it.

[krae_man]

If only you could do a full screen map and zoom in and out easily.

[Hobbun]

The problem with that is that still wouldn’t tell you which portal went where.

[krae_man]

The problem with that is that still wouldn’t tell you which portal went where.

Yeah but then I could do a graph paper map easier.

[Hobbun]

Best thing to do is start at one corner and work your way out. You can still accomplish that easily enough with how the map is now. When you get to the edge of the screen, you scroll the map over.

[toythatkills]

There are dungeons with like 100 or more warp points in them. At that point you don't even want to play any more, let alone attempt to work out where every single one of them leads.

[Hobbun]

There are dungeons with like 100 or more warp points in them. At that point you don't even want to play any more, let alone attempt to work out where every single one of them leads.

I'm just curious, but are you still playing the game?

I know you are a reviewer, but a lot of what you've said has made it relatively clear you are not a fan of the game overall, so I was just wondering if you were still playing.

[toythatkills]

I'm just curious, but are you still playing the game? I know you are a reviewer, but a lot of what you've said has made it relatively clear you are not a fan of the game overall, so I was just wondering if you were still playing.

I really wanted to get to the end, but after traversing the above mentioned dungeon and meeting a boss that would require hours more grinding, I just put it aside. Watching my stats go up was annoyingly addictive, but not that addictive!

And my friend lent me Tomb Raider, so that too.

I think what annoys me most about the game is how easily it could have been brilliant. It's like they had this great idea for a game, built an awesome world to put it in, made a fast-paced, streamlined battle system - and then it all went wrong.

[Hobbun]

Ok, thanks for the input.

I do realize there is a lot of grinding in the game, but I am ok with that as I really enjoy the combat system.

Where it may change later on (although I hope not), but I am not to that point where it has 'gone wrong'. I am really liking the game so far. I haven't been as addicted to a game this much in a long time.

[barrin87]

There are dungeons with like 100 or more warp points in them. At that point you don't even want to play any more, let alone attempt to work out where every single one of them leads.

Which dungeon was this in?