VanMardigan
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That's all fantastic for Obama, you basically have the Republicans trying their best to highlight their ongoing war on women. Obama can take this week off, save the cash for next week after the Republican convention. The news for the rest of the week is set.
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Originally Posted by HylianTom: View Post
Could they be doubling-down against women?!
(aww.. beaten..)
Stupidity within idiocy within madness.

Conception.
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WHY THE FUCK ARE JON STEWART AND COLBERT OFF THIS WEEK
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Originally Posted by VanMardigan: View Post
That's all fantastic for Obama, you basically have the Republicans trying their best to highlight their ongoing war on women. Obama can take this week off, save the cash for next week after the Republican convention. The news for the rest of the week is set.
Obama really has been given a gift that his opposition is completely batshit crazy. He needs to hammer it in and not sugarcoat it at all that a GOP controlled government could set the country back decades at the least.
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The sad thing is I would not be surprised to see these douches hold their Senate and House seats, but Romney is probably none too pleased, I heard Trump on CNBC this morning having to extoll Romney's many virtues with regards to women.

Also, as I've seen it mentioned before; the problem is not the specific individuals saying this outlandish, offensive, bs, but that the idea exists out there in the Republican strata in the first place.
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Originally Posted by TacticalFox88: View Post
Obama really has been given a gift that his opposition is completely batshit crazy. He needs to hammer it in and not sugarcoat it at all that a GOP controlled government could set the country back decades at the least.
Seriously, the Obama campaign needs to take these two examples and just run with them. Run as fast as they can as far as they can with them. Use this as a noose to tie the entire GOP that has voted for the kind of crap they have based on fantasy theories regarding women's reproduction. If the Democrats don't do this as a whole, then I've lost any faith in them, too. This is inexcusable.
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Originally Posted by markatisu: View Post
Steve King is a supreme asshole, everyone in Iowa knows it and yet he goes out of his way to continue to put it on display
Yeah this doesn't seem like too out of line for what King has said in the past. Just really, really odd anyone would want to double down on this particular sentiment given the media scrutiny over the subject right now. But I suppose if it would be anyone it would be King to do it.
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Originally Posted by Allard: View Post
Yeah this doesn't seem like too out of line for what King has said in the past. Just really, really odd anyone would want to double down on this particular sentiment given the media scrutiny over the subject right now. But I suppose if it would be anyone it would be King to do it.
This! I'm not surprised that people believe this stuff, I'm more surprised that he's going on TV and saying this NOW.

Maybe the 2010 "Red Tsunami" has them thinking that they need to push harder to get more votes. Who knows.
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They have an update on his comments and maybe I'm just misunderstanding what he's saying, but it's a bit of a stretch to claim he said he's never heard of ''a Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest''.
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Originally Posted by RDreamer: View Post
Are you fucking kidding me? Representative Steve King defended Akin and said "I’ve Never Heard Of A Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest"

What world are these people living in? Seriously what in hell is going on? Who's electing these people?
Ahhh yes, the "if I didn't see it, it didn't happen" defense.

Man, I can't wait for the GOP to develop object permanence.
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It's not even doubling down any more--you can only do that once.

Now we're playing backgammon, and they're mindlessly cranking up the doubling cube over and over. Akin doubles. Huckabee redoubles. King redoubles again.

I fully expect to see "women can't get pregnant from rape" enshrined in the GOP platform by the end of the week.
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Originally Posted by Rocket Scientist: View Post
They have an update on his comments and maybe I'm just misunderstanding what he's saying, but it's a bit of a stretch to claim he said he's never heard of ''a Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest''.
What? That's not really much of a stretch. Sure he qualifies it by saying it hasn't been brought to him personally, but what does that fucking matter? Does every statutory rape victim that gets pregnant have to go call up Steve King and let him know or else he'll just assume it's not happening and write legislation against those victims? Maybe he could do himself a little fucking favor and look these things up before he puts his pen to paper and his foot in his mouth. It's completely ridiculous and what he said is indefensible.
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Originally Posted by Rocket Scientist: View Post
They have an update on his comments and maybe I'm just misunderstanding what he's saying, but it's a bit of a stretch to claim he said he's never heard of ''a Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest''.
Aren't you stretching a tad to some how rationalize how even the basic suggestion of what he said is some how not completely insane? Why is it that these representatives now need 2 to 3 interviews and clarifications for what they originally say?

There is no content worth hearing in a sentence that displays that you haven't personally known any rape babies, but you'd like to be educated about them? What is that saying...?

edit:

Beaten.

I mean yea, I know most rational GOP folks are now trying to damage control this situation, but its literally impossible. These people are so far out of touch with reality they make it a behemoth task for anyone to try to put it all back together.
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Originally Posted by DynamicG: View Post
This! I'm not surprised that people believe this stuff, I'm more surprised that he's going on TV and saying this NOW.

Maybe the 2010 "Red Tsunami" has them thinking that they need to push harder to get more votes. Who knows.
I guarantee you that is what they think here, the GOP took control of the state government as well as booted some judges that voted for gay marriage so they are full of confidence.

Its going to be a wide awakening in November for them though
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So is the Republican vision of the future more or less The Handmaid's Tale?

Wiki has a nice convenient summary of this book for anyone that hasn't read it:
The Handmaid's Tale is set in the near future in the Republic of Gilead, a country formed within the borders of what was formerly the United States of America. It was founded by a racist, homophobic, male chauvinist, nativist, theocratic-organized military coup as an ideologically driven response to the pervasive ecological, physical and social degradation of the country.

Beginning with a staged terrorist attack (blamed on Islamic extremist terrorists) that kills the President and most of Congress, a movement calling itself the "Sons of Jacob" launch a revolution and suspend the United States Constitution under the pretext of restoring order.

Taking advantage of electronic banking, they were quickly able to freeze the assets of all women and other "undesirables" in the country, stripping them of their rights. The new theocratic military dictatorship, styled "The Republic of Gilead", moved quickly to consolidate its power and reorganize society along a new militarized, hierarchical, compulsorily Christian regime of Old Testament-inspired social and religious orthodoxy among its newly created social classes. In this society, almost all women are forbidden to read.
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Originally Posted by commedieu: View Post
Aren't you stretching a tad to some how rationalize how even the basic suggestion of what he said is some how not completely insane? Why is it that these representatives now need 2 to 3 interviews and clarifications for what they originally say?

There is no content worth hearing in a sentence that displays that you haven't personally known any rape babies, but you'd like to be educated about them? What is that saying...?

edit:

Beaten.
Yeah it's kinda like Pro Wrestling logic where if the ref didn't see it, then it didn't happen. So if King doesn't know about it personally, it must not be true.
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DrudgeReport...
Quote:
SOURCES: Biden at GOP convention; Secret Service in Tampa say they are Biden advance -- he's coming Monday or Tuesday... Developing...
What's this even mean, if true?
Rocket Scientist
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Drudge report ad led me to some website that claims:

Quote:
Dreams from My Real Father makes the case that on August 4, 1961, Frank Marshall Davis became the father of the future 44th President of the United States and indoctrinated him with a Marxist ideology during his formative years.
It's a movie apparently. What. The. Fuck.

Edit: I see you all agree that's what he said. Can't believe I'm saying this but: great! I just didn't want to get excited over nothing if it ended up being out of context.
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Originally Posted by Fatalah: View Post
DrudgeReport...


What's this even mean, if true?
Perhaps it's all part of an elaborate setup for their Obama impersonator.
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(08-21-2012, 05:31 PM)

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Originally Posted by Fatalah: View Post
DrudgeReport...


What's this even mean, if true?
Been wondering this all morning. Maybe Biden is Trump's surprise!

Originally Posted by Rocket Scientist: View Post
They have an update on his comments and maybe I'm just misunderstanding what he's saying, but it's a bit of a stretch to claim he said he's never heard of ''a Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest''.
No it isn't. That's what he said. Even with the added context of the question, it's what he said.
B-Dubs
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Originally Posted by RDreamer: View Post
Are you fucking kidding me? Representative Steve King defended Akin and said "I’ve Never Heard Of A Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest"

What world are these people living in? Seriously what in hell is going on? Who's electing these people?
How in the fuck does this moron keep electing? It's not enough Akin shot himself in the face but now this schmuck is handing him to Romney!

Biden is not at the GOP convention, come on son.
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Maybe Biden's confused and thinks he's speaking at the DNC.
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Originally Posted by B-Dubs: View Post
How in the fuck does this moron keep electing? It's not enough Akin shot himself in the face but now this schmuck is handing him to Romney!

Biden is not at the GOP convention, come on son.
Is Drudge more reliable than politico?
eznark
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Originally Posted by Aaron Strife: View Post
Maybe Biden's confused and thinks he's speaking at the DNC.
racist

Did PPP do the Tommy/Tammy race this time?
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Akin is staying in, hmm. Oh well, can't be right about everything
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Originally Posted by DeathbyVolcano: View Post
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WHY THE FUCK ARE JON STEWART AND COLBERT OFF THIS WEEK
Don't worry, we got Bill Maher on Friday.
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Originally Posted by PhoenixDark: View Post
Akin is staying in, hmm. Oh well, can't be right about everything
Don't worry, you still have a few days left on your 7 day prediction.

I avoided the obvious jokes here.
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This just shows that Romney has absolutely NO control over the Republican party.

Originally Posted by Hitokage: View Post
Just heard a female guest on South Carolina's NPR network that Obama's response regarding men getting involved in women's health care decisions is "laughable" because of the Obamacare contraception thing.
These people are just fucking idiots. Sorry, but they are. There's too much info out there to be THAT wilfully ignorant.
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Hitokage
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Just heard a female guest on South Carolina's NPR network that Obama's response regarding men getting involved in women's health care decisions is "laughable" because of the Obamacare contraception thing.

...and wasn't called out on it.

Liberal media.
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Originally Posted by Hitokage: View Post
Just heard a female guest on South Carolina's NPR network that Obama's response regarding men getting involved in women's health care decisions is "laughable" because of the Obamacare contraception thing.
But...that...you know you can...choice...what???
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Originally Posted by Hitokage: View Post
Just heard a female guest on South Carolina's NPR network that Obama's response regarding men getting involved in women's health care decisions is "laughable" because of the Obamacare contraception thing.

...and wasn't called out on it.

Liberal media.
Cartoon's alt is a mod?!?!
Cyan
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Originally Posted by Measley: View Post
Don't worry, we got Bill Maher on Friday.
Whoa, false equivalency.

Seriously, Maher is a smarmy douchebag who occasionally says something intelligent by accident but I still can't stand him. Even hearing him speak makes me shudder.
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Originally Posted by CharlieDigital: View Post
But...that...you know you can...choice...what???
Obama supports a woman's right to make her own healthcare decisions, unless she chooses to not buy health insurance.

Someone turn that into a pithy zinger for my bumper sticker business.
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Originally Posted by eznark: View Post
Obama supports a woman's right to make her own healthcare decisions, unless she chooses to not buy health insurance.

Someone turn that into a pithy zinger for my bumper sticker business.
A little too much nuance for a bumper sticker. Probably better to stick with "Obamacare = socialism!"
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Originally Posted by Cyan: View Post
A little too much nuance for a bumper sticker. Probably better to stick with "Obamacare = socialism!"
That's a #1 seller right there.
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haha serious?

http://www.obamasrealfather.com/frank-marshall-davis/

The comparison pics are supposed to convince me they look alike? Maybe in the same way "all Asians look alike".
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Originally Posted by eznark: View Post
Obama supports a woman's right to make her own healthcare decisions, unless she chooses to not buy health insurance.

Someone turn that into a pithy zinger for my bumper sticker business.
When she doesn't buy healthcare we *all* end up paying for it with increased premiums. And its probably at much higher cost because of a lack of preventative care.

Put that on your bumper sticker.

Unless you're just being sarcastic and my detector is broken.
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Phoenician_Viking
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Where does the 2012 election leave Hilary Clinton? IIRC she said that she does not want to be part of Obama´s cabinet. Is she going to be back to congress?
CharlieDigital
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Originally Posted by NullPointer: View Post
When she doesn't buy healthcare we *all* end up paying for it with increased premiums. And its probably at much higher cost because of a lack of preventative care.

Put that on your bumper sticker.
It's a silly statement because it's more or less a tax in everything but name and, as the Supreme Court ruled, it is fully within the right of our elected officials to enact taxes. You're forced to buy healthcare in the same sense that you're forced to buy those F-22's.
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Originally Posted by codhand: View Post
haha serious?

http://www.obamasrealfather.com/frank-marshall-davis/

The comparison pics are supposed to convince me they look alike? Maybe in the same way "all Asians look alike".
Good fucking god.
Averon
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(08-21-2012, 05:53 PM)

http://www.dailykos.com/weeklypolling/2012/8/16

PPP/DailyKos poll

Obama 49
Romney 45
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Originally Posted by codhand: View Post
haha serious?

http://www.obamasrealfather.com/frank-marshall-davis/

The comparison pics are supposed to convince me they look alike? Maybe in the same way "all Asians look alike".
Wow...this site.
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Originally Posted by el retorno de los sapos: View Post
That's a feature, not a bug. 'Gift from God' and all that.
codhand
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i love their google image search headlines
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Originally Posted by el retorno de los sapos: View Post
I prefer this one:

vcassano1
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Originally Posted by codhand: View Post
haha serious?

http://www.obamasrealfather.com/frank-marshall-davis/

The comparison pics are supposed to convince me they look alike? Maybe in the same way "all Asians look alike".
Is this a parody site? Please be a parody site.
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Originally Posted by thezerofire: View Post
I prefer this one:

Wow.
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Originally Posted by codhand: View Post
haha serious?

http://www.obamasrealfather.com/frank-marshall-davis/

The comparison pics are supposed to convince me they look alike? Maybe in the same way "all Asians look alike".
I'm going to watch this.
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Originally Posted by Hitokage: View Post
Just heard a female guest on South Carolina's NPR network that Obama's response regarding men getting involved in women's health care decisions is "laughable" because of the Obamacare contraception thing.
That doesn't even make sense! Auuuuuuugh!