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Originally Posted by Hitokage: View Post
I left for the evening thinking PoliGAF was holding free and fair elections, but then I return to find something very different. :(
Welcome to Obama's America. :(
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#152

Originally Posted by cartoon_soldier: View Post
Romney advisor pretty much confirmed that Portman will be VP pick
Portman? LOL. That's about as white and safe as it can get.

He won't do anything for the ticket either way, unless there's something I don't know about him.

I guess since he is from OH, it will make the state a bit harder for Obama to carry. Or maybe it won't do shit.
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#153

So, the modern republican party is some sort of avante garde, dadaist art performance, right?
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#154

Originally Posted by Diablos: View Post
Portman? LOL. That's about as white and safe as it can get.

He won't do anything for the ticket either way, unless there's something I don't know about him.

I guess since he is from OH, it will make the state a bit harder for Obama to carry. Or maybe it won't do shit.
I'm from OH, and I'll be the first to say it won't do shit.
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#155

yall some portman haters


15 Genuinely Interesting Things About Rob Portman


http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczyn...rtman?s=mobile
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#156

Originally Posted by PantherLotus: View Post
It's a right-wing smear job with no hope of success. They're trying to get Obama to drop him like he did everyone else they challenged, attempting to make it look like he has a single scandal during his tenure. He doesn't.

Which is really astounding, if you think about it.
I'd say he's doing a pretty good job of smearing himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8YJIx0I23U

Originally Posted by Aaron Strife: View Post
The thing about Obama is that he seems to always be doing something important and presidential.
Hilarious. Like this:

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(06-20-2012, 11:55 AM)
#157

You can always tell how desperate republicans are getting by kosmo's posts
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#158

Originally Posted by Kosmo: View Post
I'd say he's doing a pretty good job of smearing himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8YJIx0I23U



Hilarious. Like this:

He's bowing!!!!! Lysol wipes in his pocket?
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#159

Michelle Obama at Target pictures in 3.. 2..
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#160

Kosmo has turned into a parody of himself.
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#161

Originally Posted by PantherLotus: View Post

It's a right-wing smear job with no hope of success. They're trying to get Obama to drop him like he did everyone else they challenged, attempting to make it look like he has a single scandal during his tenure. He doesn't.

Which is really astounding, if you think about it.
Holder's bald faced lie to the House Judiciary Committee on the treatment of medical marijuana dispensaries would be a scandal if anyone were able to separate out issues and ethics. But no one cares about medical marijuana so no one cares if Holder is a liar when discussing it.
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#162

ROMNEY IN AN APRON vs. OBAMA INCORRECTLY BOWING

We'll never know who wins THIS battle of optics!



Also -- PD is wrong about Romney automatically passing the "looks like a president" test. John Kerry did too. Hell, he looked like his face was carved right out of Mount Rushmore. I don't think the looks test matters, either.

But I do think optics matters, and it's not just that Romney can't win it, it's that anything he does to combat prevailing notions about him (being a rich, aloof, callous, humorless wall-street fat cat) will just play into the disparity between the candidates.
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#163

Obama bowed and sullied the good name of US and A!!
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(06-20-2012, 01:20 PM)

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#164

Pretty interesting stuff:


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Given unrealistically high initial expectations, perhaps it is unsurprising that young voters are more disappointed by Obama’s performance. For many, disillusionment with the political process has accompanied increased hardship in life, as the hope and idealism of a bright future coming out of school dissipated into the reality of a harsh economy or taxing student loans, which might compound frustration with the Obama administration. The unemployment rate for 18 29-year-olds is well above the national average, at a dismaying 12.1 percent.

Those convinced that young voters would usher in a progressive political era might be surprised to learn that disappointment with Obama has led many young whites to switch their political allegiances to the GOP, not just return to the political sidelines. According to Pew, young whites have shifted a net 18 percentage points toward Republicans since 2008, leaving a majority of young whites identifying as Republicans by 2011
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Young whites constituted just 11 percent of the electorate in 2008, but that's more than the entire Latino vote and nearly as much as African Americans
http://www.tnr.com/blog/electionate/...g-white-voters

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#165

Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: View Post
I am tempted to leave work early just to watch this game.

Originally Posted by Hitokage: View Post
I left for the evening thinking PoliGAF was holding free and fair elections, but then I return to find something very different. :(
Bring on the UN monitors!

Originally Posted by PantherLotus: View Post
Optics 101

Here's what Romney did today:

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politic...0619_wblog.jpg

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2...BXH.St.55.jpeg
the apron is a nice touch


Here's what Obama did today and yesterday:

http://www.navytimes.com/xml/news/20...-putin-800.JPG

http://gdb.voanews.eu/1D2CC2E4-AF51-...89_mw800_s.jpg
Oh, that's just a few of most powerful people in the world.
This is strident cable news bullshit at its worst. I was so disappointed in Maddow for that segment. Are we going to pretend that Obama isn't going to do any retail politicking between now and November?
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#166

Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: View Post

Conservative tripe!!

I think a lot of people have been arguing that the youth vote would not be able to propel Obama to victory, but I am pretty shocked that the youth vote is (according to this poll) actively switching sides.

I'll believe it when I see it.
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#167

Originally Posted by PantherLotus: View Post
Optics 101

Here's what Romney did today:

OMG!! @ one crust pie in aluminum?* wait it's a two crust, but still Tisk Tisk.
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#168

Originally Posted by eznark: View Post
Conservative tripe!!

I think a lot of people have been arguing that the youth vote would not be able to propel Obama to victory, but I am pretty shocked that the youth vote is (according to this poll) actively switching sides.

I'll believe it when I see it.
yeah i dont believe that one bit.
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#169

Originally Posted by Invisible_Insane: View Post
This is strident cable news bullshit at its worst. I was so disappointed in Maddow for that segment. Are we going to pretend that Obama isn't going to do any retail politicking between now and November?
I think it's weird that in the first part of your comment you suggest it's strident cable news bullshit at its worst, but in the next you say that you're disappointed in Rachel Maddow, as if she weren't on cable news. So either you think she's above this "bullshit" or you don't understand the long term electoral consequences, which are probably overstated.

I don't think anyone is pretending that Obama won't go on a bakery tour, or w/e "white/young/married woman love me" thing works, but I think the point was that it won't be on the same day Romney is acting like a big boy and addressing heads of state and staring down Putin.
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cartoon_soldier
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(06-20-2012, 01:47 PM)
#170

Originally Posted by eznark: View Post
Conservative tripe!!

I think a lot of people have been staying that the youth vote would not be able to propel Obama to victory, but I am pretty shocked that the youth vote is (according to this poll) actively switching sides.

I'll believe it when I see it.
That is just the white youth vote.
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#171

Originally Posted by cartoon_soldier: View Post
That is just the white youth vote.
Which according to the article is 60% of the youth vote. The article also indicates that its more about disillusionment than switching sides.

The other important part buried in that article is that it is using data compiled prior to Obama's gay marriage support speech.
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#172

Originally Posted by PantherLotus: View Post
I think it's weird that in the first part of your comment you suggest it's strident cable news bullshit at its worst, but in the next you say that you're disappointed in Rachel Maddow, as if she weren't on cable news. So either you think she's above this "bullshit" or you don't understand the long term electoral consequences, which are probably overstated.

I don't think anyone is pretending that Obama won't go on a bakery tour, or w/e "white/young/married woman love me" thing works, but I think the point was that it won't be on the same day Romney is acting like a big boy and addressing heads of state and staring down Putin.
I think much of Maddow's work is considerably more informative than the typical cable news show, which is why I make a point of watching it, and why I'm disappointed when she descends to coverage of this nature. "They happened on the same day..." really?

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#173

Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: View Post
My favorite part of this is youth thinking that the GOP being in control will actually benefit them.

LOL, youth.
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White youth.

Not shocked at all.

These are the same folks who seem to believe that if affirmative action is eliminated they don't have to worry about undeserving minorities taking their "jobs."

Edit: Yes, I meant to use the word jobs.
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#175

Thank you mods.
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#176

Fast and Furious documents have officially been covered up by the Obama administration.

This is going to explode now.
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#177

Originally Posted by eznark: View Post
Fast and Furious documents have officially been covered up by the Obama administration.

This is going to explode now.
Wow--I didn't think it would happen.

This is going to be a huge story.
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(06-20-2012, 02:17 PM)

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#178

gop switches talk from immigrations to fast and furious


good stuff
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#179

Originally Posted by Plinko: View Post
Wow--I didn't think it would happen.

This is going to be a huge story.
This is the first time I've actually believe there is anything to the allegations. Essentially, this proves the GOP's accusations are at least in part true.
thefro
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(06-20-2012, 02:23 PM)
#180

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...-of-touch.html

13 point lead for Obama in new Bloomberg national poll (directed by the great Selzer & Co) at 53-40. Dooooomed!
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#181

Looks like we got another Republican witch hunt on our hands.
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#182

Quote:
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Dept says that President Barack Obama has asserted executive privilege to withhold documents a House committee is seeking in an investigation of a flawed gun-smuggling probe.

In a letter to Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., a Justice Department official said the privilege applies to documents that explain how the department learned that there were problems with the investigation called Operation Fast and Furious.
I don't quite understand. So there was a flawed operation called Fast and Furious and the coverup wasn't covering up the flawed operation, but covering up how the Justice Department found out that it was flawed?
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#183

Originally Posted by eznark: View Post
Fast and Furious documents have officially been covered up by the Obama administration.

This is going to explode now.
I must've been hiding under my liberal media rock. Gimme the quick n' dirty about the whole thing.
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#184

Originally Posted by PantherLotus: View Post
I must've been hiding under my liberal media rock. Gimme the quick n' dirty about the whole thing.
Go to any news site today, I'm sure it's all that will be discussed for the rest of the week.
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#185

Originally Posted by thefro: View Post
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...-of-touch.html

13 point lead for Obama in new Bloomberg national poll (directed by the great Selzer & Co) at 53-40. Dooooomed!
biased
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#186

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...ts.php?ref=fpa

Btw, claiming executive privilege is hardly a "cover up." Good god, hyperventilate much?
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#187

something something sunshine disinfectant

Originally Posted by PantherLotus: View Post
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...ts.php?ref=fpa

Btw, claiming executive privilege is hardly a "cover up." Good god, hyperventilate much?
I'm sure you would be applying the same level of nuance to this judgment if Bush was still president. C'mon, man. This is shitty.
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#188

Originally Posted by PantherLotus: View Post
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...ts.php?ref=fpa

Btw, claiming executive privilege is hardly a "cover up." Good god, hyperventilate much?
Wait the US government seriously uses that old-timey ornate font for the headers of important letters?
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#189

Originally Posted by eznark: View Post
Go to any news site today, I'm sure it's all that will be discussed for the rest of the week.
I give it 1.5 days.
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#190

Originally Posted by PantherLotus: View Post
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...ts.php?ref=fpa

Btw, claiming executive privilege is hardly a "cover up." Good god, hyperventilate much?


"I need to go to my biased news sites to tell me how I should feel!"
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#191

Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: View Post
"I need to go to my biased news sites to tell me how I should feel!"
I don't recall reading the author's views on the subject anywhere on that page?
Averon
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#192

Originally Posted by RustyNails: View Post
I give it 1.5 days.
Nah. Given it's the middle of election season, the GOP's messaging machine, and cable news desire for controversy, I can see this story going for at least a week.
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#193

Darrel issa needs to chill the fuck out. Ive seen in quite a few interviews and boy does he look like the typical " i have slept with hookers and done coke while serving congress" asshole.
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Originally Posted by harSon: View Post
I don't recall reading the author's views on the subject anywhere on that page?

Yea, but ...

::crawls back in his hole::
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#195

^There's news, there's opinion, and then there's documents pasted to a page. I think we can tell the difference TA.

Originally Posted by Invisible_Insane: View Post
something something sunshine disinfectant

I'm sure you would be applying the same level of nuance to this judgment if Bush was still president. C'mon, man. This is shitty.
Yeah, that's probably fair. But eznark's description of this announcement as "an official coverup now" is hysterical. I'm not saying there's nothing there, I'm saying that this hasn't met what any of us expect of a coverup. I mean, that's a HUUUUGE term to be lobbing around and invokes Watergate. I'm not sure this is that.
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Originally Posted by Invisible_Insane: View Post
something something sunshine disinfectant

I'm sure you would be applying the same level of nuance to this judgment if Bush was still president. C'mon, man. This is shitty.
Quote:
“The documents responsive to the remaining subpoena items pertain to sensitive law enforcement activities, including ongoing criminal investigations and prosecutions, or were generated by Department officials in the course of responding to congressional investigations or media inquiries about this matter that are generally not appropriate for disclosure,” Cole wrote.
What a shitty excuse they're using to cover up a botched job.

Just put everything out and blow up any ongoing investigation!
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Originally Posted by PantherLotus: View Post
^There's news, there's opinion, and then there's documents pasted to a page. I think we can tell the difference TA.



Yeah, that's probably fair. But eznark's description of this announcement as "an official coverup now" is hysterical. I'm not saying there's nothing there, I'm saying that this hasn't met what any of us expect of a coverup. I mean, that's a HUUUUGE term to be lobbing around and invokes Watergate. I'm not sure this is that.
It's not. Its the standard witch hunt that Republicans engage in when they control the House and not the presidency. See Whitewater and Monica Lewinsky from the Clinton era.
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#198

This began as a Bush-era program right?

Originally Posted by Invisible_Insane: View Post
I'm sure you would be applying the same level of nuance to this judgment if Bush was still president. C'mon, man. This is shitty.
See Executive Orders numbered 13198 - 13486
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#199

Originally Posted by eznark: View Post
Fast and Furious documents have officially been covered up by the Obama administration.

This is going to explode now.
Kind of like how the walker investigation exploded?
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Originally Posted by codhand: View Post
This began as a Bush-era program right?
I believe so. I bet obama wishes now he had begun investigations of Bush officials lol.