[BY2K]

Make a comeback?

I never knew the Wii was a marketing failure.

Oh wait! IT WASN'T!

[remnant]

Pachter got a gig at Cnet now?

So basically the solution to Nintendo's problem is act like MS and hope everything works out on their console, and sell full fledged portable games for a fucking dollar on the iphone.

Is there any surprise tech fields have so many bubbles?

[grimshawish]

How can someone who writes something like this have a job at CNet? I just don't get it.

His blog history is interesting. Google is dead. Facebook is great (the flop was an accident! Its just static, Facebook is REALLY worth tens of billions!)

[DidntKnowJack]

I hate that it's universally conceded that "mobile apps are the hot trend in gaming." I can't fucking wait until the world moves on to something else and these prognosticators start writing articles about "why the bottom fell out on mobile gaming."

[Forkball]

When someone writes an article like this, you can tell that they have either A) never played a video game or B) their first video game experience was with Halo 3.

[synt4x]

The author must be pretty damn clueless about Nintendo's business, or this is just click-bait on a whole new level.

Edit: Also what Forkball said.

[remnant]

"Stock valuation wrong, kids on message board right" /this thread.

Please defend that Smartglass comment. I fucking dare you.

This article is a joke.

[JazzmanZ]

"I shall write a journal entry about how doom and gloomed Nintendo is! Everyone will read it! MWAHAHAHA"

[DonasaurusRex]

...all this crap makes sense until the next super smash bros comes out...then the frenzy begins and Nintendos machines start printing money.

nintendo should release a software based gaming console for ios and android too though, online / augmented reality mario kart, zelda , POKEMON would be doable and crazy popular.

[JoshuaJSlone]

So I've kept hardware shipment numbers databased for a while, but have recently also started keeping some combined numbers, like, say, all Nintendo portable hardware.

Check out that massive slowdown near the present!

[1-D_FTW]

I guess the Wii U is also doomed since it sold an astonishing 0 units compared to the 95 million Wii units sold.

Damn straight.

And Sony's living high. They were worth 40 billion back then. 1/2 of what Nintendo was. Look at them know. Nintendo's down to 14.8 billion. Muhaha.

[Kunan]

Microsoft doubled down on this strategy recently with the announcement of SmartGlass, a suite of mobile apps that lets you interact with the Xbox through a second screen. The result has been 29 percent year over year growth.

Holy shit LOL. Does this person know anything about the industry, or the concept of time, at all?!

[amtentori]

Wait...the Smartglass announcement resulted in economic growth retroactively? Whoa, MS has its shit down

o.0

[Khold]

So I've kept hardware shipment numbers databased for a while, but have recently also started keeping some combined numbers, like, say, all Nintendo portable hardware. [img]http://garaph.info/shipmentcompare.php//ddmode/1/dbegin/1989-01-01/dend/2012-03-31/mwidth/0/html/0/sysreg-0/NP_WW[img] Check out that massive slowdown near the present!

Do you have a plot that's not cumulative?

[BY2K]

The Nintendo 3DS has sold only 17 million units, far less than the 150 million Nintendo DS units or 81 million Game Boy Advance units the company has sold.

THE 3DS IS NOT EVEN 2 YEARS OLD! THE DS IS 8 YEARS OLD!

Gimme a fucking break!

[Fancy Corndog]

Nintendo is the one company that actually can get away with just being a game console. So, I disagree with him on that.

Nintendo's problem is that it got so drunk on that Wii Fit and Wii Sports money that it stopped giving much of a damn about the people who've been buying their consoles all along. Now that the fad is fading, they're having a hard time sobering up.

They need more big budget, big visioned iterations of their big IPs like Mario Galaxy, and more of an effort towards 3rd party developers. Their path of weaker, cheaper, more reliable hardware that relies on creative and novel gameplay innovations is a sound strategy that I think protects them from being eaten by PC or mobile markets. They need to start building an acceptable network, which I think they've finally begun to understand. IMO, Nintendo is peeling off of the 'normal' console market and into its own, less volatile niche.

[King Boo]

is nintendo doomed yet? it is 2012

[pramath]

I feel like I should sue CNET for all the brain cells I lost reading that tripe.

[Fudgepuppy]

Nintendo needs to start making their games for iOS, because look at Angry Birds, Nintendo can't sell less than those guys.

Fucking analyst without heart or passion for the industry calculating like robots when they know nothing.

There still is a demand for consoles obviously, so stfu.

[BY2K]

Microsoft doubled down on this strategy recently with the announcement of SmartGlass, a suite of mobile apps that lets you interact with the Xbox through a second screen. The result has been 29 percent year over year growth.

So an announcement that Microsoft made 3 WEEKS ago someone helped them get a YEAR over YEAR growth of 29%?

Okay, whoever wrote this is trolling.

[Lazy vs Crazy]

Only seventeen million 3DS sales in a year and a quarter? How ever will they bounce back?

And their stock price is lower than in 2007? My god it's almost like there was a global economic collapse between then and now.

[remnant]

...all this crap makes sense until the next super smash bros comes out...then the frenzy begins and Nintendos machines start printing money. nintendo should release a software based gaming console for ios and android too though, online / augmented reality mario kart, zelda , POKEMON would be doable and crazy popular.

Has it ever occured to people that Nintendo doesn't want to go smartphones because the tech is horrid? How many franchises can you risk on iOS without the problems of the hardware becoming a hindrance or hurting their own handheld market.

Nintendo releases a Super Mario game that controls like shit because touch screen joysticks still suck. Not really going to help them beyond a short stock spike.

[synt4x]

So an announcement that Microsoft made 3 WEEKS ago someone helped them get a YEAR over YEAR growth of 29%? Okay, whoever wrote this is trolling.

Or just stupid.

[1-D_FTW]

So an announcement that Microsoft made 3 WEEKS ago someone helped them get a YEAR over YEAR growth of 29%? Okay, whoever wrote this is trolling.

Either trolling or dumb as dog shit with one hell of a personality to bamboozle their way into the gig.

EDIT: Not that I don't have issues with Nintendo's direction, but that article just uses the most retarded and faulty logic for their arguments. I'm sure there are a lot of 5th graders that could circle all the mistakes. Dude clearly is incapable of analyzing things and providing any insight into their meanings.

[weird]

Time, how does it work?

[Khold]

Has it ever occured to people that Nintendo doesn't want to go smartphones because the tech is horrid?.

That's not why they don't want to go to smartphones, and phone tech is far from horrid.

Unless you mean solely touch based tech is horrid for gaming, then maybe

[AF_Writer]

Stopped reading right here

You should have kept reading cause there was some more hilarity later in the article. The truth of the matter, however, is that Nintendo definitely needs to evolve with the times or else the company will fail.

[Reuenthal]

The bigger trend is clear though: dedicated handheld consoles are a dying breed. The Nintendo 3DS has sold only 17 million units, far less than the 150 million Nintendo DS units or 81 million Game Boy Advance units the company has sold.

Wow

[J-Rock]

Getting paid for this. Getting fucking paid for this. ugh

[schuelma]

Getting paid for this. Getting fucking paid for this. ugh

I know right? I need to go into "journalism"

[Truth101]

Mod should change the topic too

CNet: The secret to time-traveling

Let it happen ModGAF

[gdt]

I love this article.

[Reuenthal]

Is this the stupidest article posted on gaming gaf? Are there worse?

[AJSousuke]

I think this read is by far more interesting and has far better journalism.

[Khold]

Is this the stupidest article posted on gaming gaf? Are there worse?

It's in contention, surely

[massoluk]

I could have sworn I read this exact same article in the year 2006-2007

[AzaK]

My god. This blew my mind

The bigger trend is clear though: dedicated handheld consoles are a dying breed. The Nintendo 3DS has sold only 17 million units, far less than the 150 million Nintendo DS units or 81 million Game Boy Advance units the company has sold.

Absolutely no mention of the current age of each machine. Crazy.


However, the gist of the article I think is good. Nintendo are murky waters with challenges having come from all sides over the last five years. The other platform holders seem to be growing wider in their offerings, whereas it seems that Nintendo are going a little deeper this time around and focussing more on games and gamification of things like social services.

My worry is that with a likely lowish price point, and lowish tech compared to the competition next year, Nintendo are going to have to really be able to distinguish themselves from everyone else. When MS and Sony announce machines that will trounce the Wii U's power, can the Wii U still remain attractive to those "core" gamers?

[Zenaku]

Just some clarification, but the article is citing Nintendo's american stock, currently at $14.75, and not their Japanese stock, currently at 9530 yen ($118.70), right? Which reached a peak of 72,800 yen ($904.90) at the end of 2007?

Between american and japanese stocks, could anyone with actual knowledge tell me which one we should be paying attention to?

[Yagharek]

"Stock valuation wrong, kids on message board right" /this thread.

What an inane comment. Did you write the CNET piece by any chance?

[schuelma]

What an inane comment. Did you write the CNET piece by any chance?

This article fits in with his world view on Nintendo.

[Red UFO]

"The bigger trend is clear though: dedicated handheld consoles are a dying breed. The Nintendo 3DS has sold only 17 million units, far less than the 150 million Nintendo DS units or 81 million Game Boy Advance units the company has sold."

Hilarious.

[Nub]

Umm where did nintendo go? For me they didnt go anywhere, therefore they do not have to make a comeback. That article was a joke.

[Bgamer90]

"Stock valuation wrong, kids on message board right" /this thread.

So age = credibility?

Really?

Did you make the article?

[evilromero]

Yeah! Nintendo systems need to be entertainment hubs and stream content like the Xbox does with Netflix and Hulu! :/

[Hot Coldman]

Also the phrase "Super Mario isn't super" is fun considering it's still the most dependable thing Nintendo has, on their best days and their worst.

[Fantastical]

The Nintendo 3DS has sold only 17 million units, far less than the 150 million Nintendo DS units or 81 million Game Boy Advance units the company has sold.

I seriously can't believe they used this in the article. I mean, they may have a valid point about the mobile market, but that's just sad.

[Mxrz]

In October 2007, less than a year after the release of its blockbuster Wii console, Nintendo was worth $78.50 per share. That equated to a market cap of $85 billion -- double the value of Sony at the time. However, Nintendo's fortunes have only gone south since then. With Wii sales cooling and mobile apps the hot trend in gaming, Nintendo's stock collapsed this month to $14.50 per share, leaving it with a market cap of just $14.8 billion, a fifth of its value in 2007.

Didn't know the drop was that big. Unless he's lying, that's pretty noteworthy. The kneejerk defense is a little weird, but not unexpected. But I don't like that a company can't just be about games any more. But I don't make a living following stock prices or how the industry works.

[Khold]

It's not so much the argument he's trying to make..it's the evidence he used to make it.

[thezerofire]

As much as they're never going to do it, I would love Animal Crossing on iphone. I would pay $20 for that. And put some micro transaction stuff like using real money or bells to buy in-game stuff, rake in the cash.

[herod]

It's clear Nintendo is suffering

uh lol