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Originally Posted by Kyoufu: View Post
Add Kofi to that list.

I hate his style. It's just a personal thing that not everyone will agree with but...

Dolph >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kofi

in literally every single way.
I would take many over Kofi. But when crap like Miz and Santino have gotten significant air time and/or title opportunities over the past several years while guys like Kofi are stuck exchanging wins back and forth, and getting combo'd in with random guys for tag teams, it's pretty disappointing.

Cody, Dolph (why can't he be called "The Natural" Nick Nemeth like he was in FCW?) and Barrett can easily be in that next stage given the proper booking.

Heck, a year ago Sheamus was messing around with Jinder Mahal and putting over Mark Henry so he can develop his monster status. Now he's a World Champion and getting wins every night.
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Kyoufu
(07-01-2012, 01:18 PM)

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#252

That's the problem, Vince. That's the problem.

Booking sucks.
Aiii
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(07-01-2012, 01:24 PM)

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#253

To be fair to WWE, they've tried building the new tag-team division around Kofi twice over the past year. He or they can't help his partners keep getting injured/suspended.
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(07-01-2012, 01:26 PM)

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#254

Originally Posted by Aiii: View Post
To be fair to WWE, they've tried building the new tag-team division around Kofi twice over the past year. He or they can't help his partners keep getting injured/suspended.
Yeah, which really sucks.

But they have some potential tag teams they could've done.

Titus and Darren, Usos, Primo and Epico, Swagger/Ziggler could've dominated the division for awhile before their eventual split...
Dragonzord
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(07-01-2012, 01:43 PM)

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#255

This is how I enter all OTs from now on
G-Fex
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(07-01-2012, 02:47 PM)

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#256

Imagine if Kofi Kingston and Dolph Ziggler were main eventers and they were feuding over the WWE title.

Sigh.
Khrno
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(07-01-2012, 03:07 PM)

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#257

Originally Posted by bean breath: View Post
Post more gifs.
Are you saying I made 800 gifs-only posts and 200 text posts?

cr_blah_blah
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(07-01-2012, 03:31 PM)

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#258

It's nice to see a move by Kofi that isn't just a jump really high version of incredibly basic moves. Since that its literally the basis of his entire offense.
Mr. Sandman
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(07-01-2012, 03:40 PM)

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#259



Ok, this sounds awesome.
jobber
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(07-01-2012, 03:59 PM)

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#260

TNA should try an all knockouts ppv. They have like 12 women under contract and the same 4 are on tv every week...or at least an all knockout episode on Impact. I don't even know who are the knockout tag team champions are anymore.
Mr. Sandman
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Originally Posted by jobber: View Post
TNA should try an all knockouts ppv. They have like 12 women under contract and the same 4 are on tv every week...or at least an all knockout episode on Impact. I don't even know who are the knockout tag team champions are anymore.
They did an all knockouts Impact once, didn't go over too well I think.
Kyoufu
(07-01-2012, 04:01 PM)

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#262

Originally Posted by cr_blah_blah: View Post
It's nice to see a move by Kofi that isn't just a jump really high version of incredibly basic moves. Since that its literally the basis of his entire offense.
His moveset is pretty annoying. It's just high flying crap. He tells no story in the ring. No in-ring psychology.

Destined to be a mid-carder.
Ithil
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(07-01-2012, 04:06 PM)

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#263

Originally Posted by Kyoufu: View Post
His moveset is pretty annoying. It's just high flying crap. He tells no story in the ring. No in-ring psychology.

Destined to be a mid-carder.
It's not even really like Sin Cara type high flying, it's just like "vague cross body", "punch", or "flailing clothesline", only he jumps up really high doing them.
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#264

Originally Posted by djsandman: View Post
They did an all knockouts Impact once, didn't go over too well I think.
was that the episode with Mickie and Tara in a cage as the main event? I thought that was one of the highest rated segments o_O
Toki767
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(07-01-2012, 04:18 PM)

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#265

Originally Posted by djsandman: View Post
They did an all knockouts Impact once, didn't go over too well I think.
To be fair, it didn't do well because it was New Year's Eve.
Nocturnowl
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(07-01-2012, 04:34 PM)

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#266

So I was just watching the WHC elimination chamber from 2011, the one with Edge, Mysterio, Kane, Barrett, Show and Mcintyre.
And it is really good, possibly the most underrated chamber match, everyone gets to look awesome even the no longer chosen one Mcintyre, the bit where he just launches a Mysterio missile into a chamber is hilarious. Kane and Show get to clean house with the old monster mash and the match itself is bookended with great Rey/Edge encounters.
DKehoe
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(07-01-2012, 04:42 PM)

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Originally Posted by Nocturnowl: View Post
So I was just watching the WHC elimination chamber from 2011, the one with Edge, Mysterio, Kane, Barrett, Show and Mcintyre.
And it is really good, possibly the most underrated chamber match, everyone gets to look awesome even the no longer chosen one Mcintyre, the bit where he just launches a Mysterio missile into a chamber is hilarious. Kane and Show get to clean house with the old monster mash and the match itself is bookended with great Rey/Edge encounters.
Rey gets so much shit on here but he is fantastic,.
Mr. Luchador
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(07-01-2012, 04:44 PM)

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Originally Posted by DKehoe: View Post
Rey gets so much shit on here but he is fantastic,.
I think people forget he has no knees. Sure it doesn't help he bulked up loads and had his moveset changed so all he dead 3 moves.
Kyoufu
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#269

Originally Posted by Ithil: View Post
It's not even really like Sin Cara type high flying, it's just like "vague cross body", "punch", or "flailing clothesline", only he jumps up really high doing them.
Yup, exactly. He's so average :(
CrunchinJelly
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(07-01-2012, 04:52 PM)

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#270

why was Sin Cara not on SD this week?

Has he got himself injured again?
G-Fex
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(07-01-2012, 04:59 PM)

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#271

Sin Cara is busy fighting crime.
Bootaaay
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(07-01-2012, 05:08 PM)

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#272

Originally Posted by DKehoe: View Post
Rey gets so much shit on here but he is fantastic,.
I just have issue with how formulaic his matches became. High flyers are meant to be unpredictable - give him a bunch of finishing moves and signature spots, but don't dictate the order or necessity of those moves in EVERY match. During his last run I got so sick of seeing his silly finishing sequence, and the way they made the trip into the 619 look so. damn. contrived. Just as bad as the "OUT OF NOWHERE!" RKO's.
Kyoufu
(07-01-2012, 05:10 PM)

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#273

I like Rey. He has become predictable but with the way the roster is, he's still an asset.
G-Fex
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(07-01-2012, 05:15 PM)

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#274

Rey sucks, WCW had plenty if better high flyers
SoulPlaya
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(07-01-2012, 05:17 PM)

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#275

Kofi's gimmick sucks, and so does Rey.
Carnby
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(07-01-2012, 05:21 PM)

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#276

Did anyone else notice this amazing sign from Smack Down this week?

Striker
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(07-01-2012, 05:24 PM)

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#277

Originally Posted by KOG: View Post
Rey sucks, WCW had plenty if better high flyers
Rey in WCW was fantastic. His booking as the Giant Killer was stupid, but what else is new. WWE did the same for him pinning Kane and Big Show often.
G-Fex
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(07-01-2012, 05:32 PM)

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#278

Let's see Rey fight Spike Dudley. See who the real giant killer is.
Nocturnowl
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(07-01-2012, 05:38 PM)

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#279

Originally Posted by SoulPlaya: View Post
Kofi's gimmick sucks, and so does Rey.
What gimmick? being a cheerful midcarder?
jordan0386
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(07-01-2012, 05:39 PM)

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#280

Originally Posted by jaekwon15: View Post
Did anyone else notice this amazing sign from Smack Down this week?

If I was Sheamus, and I was able to see that. Wouldve got everybody in the locker room to sign it.
Aiii
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(07-01-2012, 05:40 PM)

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#281

Are You Serious? Episode 22: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoYruFMfclU
Mr. Sandman
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#282

Undertaker vs Rey Mysterio Royal Rumble 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4cOIveQ6Do

One of the better Mysterio matches I have seen lately. As I remember it, it was mostly a squash match, but damn that finish was awesome.
Sunflower
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(07-01-2012, 05:46 PM)

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#283

WCW had better everything:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlmkoLcgYpc&feature=plcp
Mr. Sandman
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#284

Originally Posted by Sunflower: View Post
WCW had my favorite Rey Mysterio moment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtc7QzFzjPY
Nocturnowl
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(07-01-2012, 05:52 PM)

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#285

Originally Posted by djsandman: View Post
WCW had my favorite Rey Mysterio moment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtc7QzFzjPY
I've said it before and i'll say it again, rey's cries of anguish and terror are unmatched in wrestling.
UberTag
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(07-01-2012, 06:11 PM)

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#286

The 619 may well be the absolute worst signature move in the business. Especially because you know full well we haven't seen a single guy draped over the middle rope from inside the ring since he got hurt but you know it'll be happening all the time once again as soon as Rey is back and healthy.

That being said, everything that's bad about Rey is how his matches are booked. He's a remarkable talent. He connects with the kids in the crowd better than anyone EVER in this industry (Cena included). He sells offense. He's got incredible athleticism even now given his limitations in the ring since he's older.

I have no complaints whatsoever about the guy apart from how the WWE has done its best to ruin him.
vferrel
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(07-01-2012, 06:36 PM)

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#287

The problems I've always had with Rey have always been because of WWE booking, like his title run in 2006. His in ring work is really good though, and he's one of the more reliable guys on the roster. Shouldn't he be back soon?

Btw, I wish TNA would bring in more Luchadors and Japanese wrestlers like WCW used to.
bangai-o
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(07-01-2012, 08:22 PM)

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#288

those real pic January avatar people managed to sneak their community into the main OT section. Time to figure out a way to introduce OT Forums to AJ and D Bry.
Khrno
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(07-01-2012, 08:25 PM)

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#289

Call them in here, we'll have AJ receive them.


Dark Ninja
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(07-01-2012, 08:42 PM)

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#290

Originally Posted by vferrel: View Post
The problems I've always had with Rey have always been because of WWE booking, like his title run in 2006. His in ring work is really good though, and he's one of the more reliable guys on the roster. Shouldn't he be back soon?

Btw, I wish TNA would bring in more Luchadors and Japanese wrestlers like WCW used to.
I hate seeing current Rey, he's a shell of his former self. Still good by WWE standards but his high risk flying moves consist of terrible looking splashes. Its obvious he's being held together by ductape
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(07-01-2012, 08:49 PM)

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#291

Originally Posted by Dark Ninja: View Post
Its obvious he's being held together by ductape
Batista snapping at Rey all makes sense now. Obviously he has hated duct tape all his life, so he gets teamed up with someone MADE of duct tape and goes berserk. Then Cena finds out about it, and uses it against poor Dave in a last man standing match.
Khrno
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(07-01-2012, 09:19 PM)

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#292

Originally Posted by Professor Beef: View Post
Batista snapping at Rey all makes sense now. Obviously he has hated duct tape all his life, so he gets teamed up with someone MADE of duct tape and goes berserk. Then Cena finds out about it, and uses it against poor Dave in a last man standing match.
Fucking hell, so Cena kept all quiet until a year later when he used Rey's weakness on his favor to beat him for the WWE Title.

It's all John Cena's

worldrunover
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(07-01-2012, 10:08 PM)

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#293

Originally Posted by vferrel: View Post
The problems I've always had with Rey have always been because of WWE booking, like his title run in 2006. His in ring work is really good though, and he's one of the more reliable guys on the roster. Shouldn't he be back soon?
His Super Rey schtick was getting ridiculous, he's a completely unbelievable heavyweight champion, and he fought the same goddamn match against everyone, at least in the past 3 years or so. He became boring and predictable, and now people don't remember how bad it got.

That said toward the end last year before he went on the shelf he did start putting guys like Punk and Cody Rhodes over, so I will give him credit for that.
Bootaaay
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(07-01-2012, 10:12 PM)

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#294

Watched Mid-South Wrestlefest 1985, awesome outdoors house show in front of a rabid crowd, with two really fun matches - first, Ted DiBiase vs Jake Roberts in what's, technically, a heel vs heel match, but Jake is over so much at this point he's impossible to boo. They tell a good story, with Jake trying to hit the DDT and Ted trying to conceal his loaded glove from the ref, who eventually takes the glove from Ted but finds nothing inside, because Ted has it in his hand - he swings for Jake who ducks and hits the DDT for the win. Second, a wild and crazy 6-man tag match for the main event, with Hacksaw, Bill Watts & Dick Murdoch against Kamala, Skandor Akbar & Kareem Muhammad (the guy who trained New Jack). Akbar comes down to the ring with his arm in a sling, and claims then because of Hacksaw attacking him previously, he can't wrestle and instead a masked man will take his place. The commissioner gets on the mic and declares Sandar must wrestle, as he signed a contract, so Watts runs across the ring and hauls Akbar in by his 'injured' arm and we're under way. The heels never really get on the attack, as the face team keep up a furious pace until they isolate Kamala, of all people, and hit a triple team with Murdoch's running forearm, Hacksaw's shoulder charge into the ropes and a big body slam from Watts to pick up the pin.

Ted & Jake;





Bill Watts driving Hacksaw & Murdoch to the ring in a monster truck! USA! USA! USA!

Judderman
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(07-01-2012, 10:32 PM)

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#295

So...how was wrestling last month?
Skiptastic
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(07-01-2012, 10:36 PM)

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#296

Just recorded the inaugural episode of the wrestling podcast me and my buddies are thinking about getting started up. I'll post it here with more info so you all can listen and tell us it sucks.
bean breath
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(07-01-2012, 10:39 PM)

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Originally Posted by Skiptastic: View Post
Just recorded the inaugural episode of the wrestling podcast me and my buddies are thinking about getting started up. I'll post it here with more info so you all can listen and tell us it sucks.
Do you have any cool catchphrases like The Miz's?
Nocturnowl
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Originally Posted by bean breath: View Post
Do you have any cool catchphrases like The Miz's?
He's the Skip and he's Fantastic!
G-Fex
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Originally Posted by Skiptastic: View Post
Just recorded the inaugural episode of the wrestling podcast me and my buddies are thinking about getting started up. I'll post it here with more info so you all can listen and tell us it sucks.
wrestling podcast huh?

Well on my stream I talk about wrestling LIVE with a crowd of ...a few people here.

Top that.
bean breath
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(07-01-2012, 10:56 PM)

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Originally Posted by KOG: View Post
wrestling podcast huh?

Well on my stream I talk about wrestling LIVE with a crowd of ...a few people here.

Top that.
I would listen to a weekly podcast that summarizes the activity in the thread.