[Izick]

Shit, why is everyone stepping up in the tablet game this year? I was interested in the Surface, but I'm guessing it will be too pricey for me, and I'm not a PC gamer, or power-user, so this tablet may be golden. My only concern is the screen may be too small, but that's it, and even that I'm not sure.

[Raistlin]

I don't think so. As far as I can tell it is the Nexus 7 except with expandable ports and a back camera.

And the left it's name as MeMO?


LOL. That's like having Apple TV only support audio.


my understanding is it supports the same capacitive stylus as the 171 though - would be redic if it didn't

Shit, why is everyone stepping up in the tablet game this year?

Predictions point it to overtaking PC's in a few years ... so it's a good time to take the gloves off. Google and MS obviously don't want Apple running away with this.

[rozay]

Review photos I take with my SLR. Watch video sometimes but rarely.

I'm assuming you use a microSD in you SLR. Never thought about doing that, but even then I think I'd rather just use usb host than fiddling with SD cards.

[opticalmace]

Are there any 1280x800 7" tablets already out? if so maybe I could check one out in a store, get a feel for the size.

[lowrider007]

Just got in, any video of the conference available?

Specs look good for the price although 7" is too small for for a non 3g device.

[Yaboosh]

Damn that's pretty.

The Note has been around for a while dude.

Wait, is that not?

[Sanjuro]

Are there any 1280x800 7" tablets already out? if so maybe I could check one out in a store, get a feel for the size.

Not really. That was my hesitation before purchasing this tablet.

[Copernicus]

Isn't the nook touch that resolution?

[rozay]

Isn't the nook touch that resolution?

1024x600

[NomarTyme]

Asus is releasing the Memo 370T later this year. Same specs as this, basically the exact same thing as this for $250 with 16 GB internal but a camera on the back and a HDMI out and SD Card slot as well. Got approved by the FCC last month it seems, so should be out soon.

sweet

[Norml]

Just got in, any video of the conference available? Specs look good for the price although 7" is too small for for a non 3g device.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2k4Rj4YLnE

[lowrider007]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2k4Rj4YLnE

Thank you.

[Raistlin]

For me personally, I'm not sure I can see myself getting one. It doesn't really have any features over what other Jelly Bean tablets will have does it?



Basically it, like the Q, are purposely gimped in a move to get people entrenched into the Google Play ecosystem. While I get it from a business standpoint, it's a very 'Apple' move ... and not a direction I want (or expected) to see Google go into.

People have been complaining about MS supposedly doing that with Surface ... this actually looks to be a further move in that direction, particularly if they pull the plug on GoogleTV.

[tzare]

Interested, but lack of sd slot....

[Copernicus]

For me personally, I'm not sure I can see myself getting one. It doesn't really have any features over what other Jelly Bean tablets will have does it? Basically it, like the Q, are purposely gimped in a move to get people entrenched into the Google Play ecosystem. While I get it from a business standpoint, it's a very 'Apple' move ... and not a direction I want (or expected) to see Google go into. People have been complaining about MS supposedly doing that with Surface ... this actually looks to be a further move in that direction, particularly if they pull the plug on GoogleTV.

You get $25 from Google, so it's really a $175 if you buy alot of stuff from the Play Store.

[Lynn616]

For me personally, I'm not sure I can see myself getting one. It doesn't really have any features over what other Jelly Bean tablets will have does it? Basically it, like the Q, are purposely gimped in a move to get people entrenched into the Google Play ecosystem. While I get it from a business standpoint, it's a very 'Apple' move ... and not a direction I want (or expected) to see Google go into. People have been complaining about MS supposedly doing that with Surface ... this actually looks to be a further move in that direction, particularly if they pull the plug on GoogleTV.

What is gimped on the Q and nexus 7?

[RS4-]

If it worked just like the Note minus the calling, I would have no problems buying one right now.

[Cheebo]

What is gimped on the Q and nexus 7?

No hdmi out, not sd card slot (both are on the vast majority of similarly priced android tablets). Meaning with the very limited storage space you have to rely on streaming from google play for almost all of your media.

Not to mention Google blocks the USB Hub feature on Nexus devices despite being a feature of ICS (and Jelly Bean) without hacking.

[Izick]

Isn't the lack of size in memory and SD slots really due to the fact that they're trying to keep everything in the cloud ecosystem they've set up? I mean, that and it's cheaper to have less, and thus makes the tablet cheaper.

[rozay]

Isn't the lack of size in memory and SD slots really due to the fact that they're trying to keep everything in the cloud ecosystem they've set up? I mean, that and it's cheaper to have less, and thus makes the tablet cheaper.

yeah this is what raistlin and others are getting at

[Cheebo]

Isn't the lack of size in memory and SD slots really due to the fact that they're trying to keep everything in the cloud ecosystem they've set up? I mean, that and it's cheaper to have less, and thus makes the tablet cheaper.

It isn't a cost thing. SD Card slots are extremely cheap. They are even in the super cheap low end android tablets that cost closer to $100. It's all about locking people into the cloud google play service. Which is very Appley.

[GK86]

I like it. I will be waiting to see what the fire 2 offers, but leaning on picking this up. Can't wait.

[Copernicus]

No hdmi out, not sd card slot (both are on the vast majority of similarly priced android tablets). Meaning with the very limited storage space you have to rely on streaming from google play for almost all of your media. Not to mention Google blocks the USB Hub feature on Nexus devices despite being a feature of ICS (and Jelly Bean) without hacking.

They just added the ability to recognize external storage at the OS level, so it's probably going to be part of the OTA for 4.1.

[SUPREME1]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/28/te...pagewanted=all Fix your face Raistlin. Being wrong is not a good look on you.

Except it's not a comparison to begin with. You are reading too much into one-off statements to the press. More powerful SoC - OMAP4460 (dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU and SGX540 graphics core). Apple TV 3 uses an A5R2 variant (single-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU and SGX543 with an unknown active core count). Roku 2 XS uses a Broadcom BCM2835 (ARM11 core with Broadcom’s VideoCore co-processor). More memory - 1GB LPDDR RAM, 16GB NAND flash memory. Apple 3 TV has 512 MB LPDDR2 RAM, 8 GB NAND flash memory. Roku 2 XS has 256MB DDR2 DRAM, 256 MB flash memory. More complex form-factor in materials and design, including extras like 32 perimeter LEDs, etc NFC Relatively complex on-board controls (rotating top dome volume control and capacitive touch sensor for mute on/off) 25W class D amplifier with banana plug outputs 1st generation product produced in limited quantities I'm sure Chinese labor could make it cost a bit less, but certainly not anywhere near what it's being compared to. It's simply more advanced HW with more features - it is not in the same tier. So even assuming large-scale production in China, this will never have a BOM like Apple TV or Roku. The point is, there really isn't anything to even compare it to. There isn't a similarly speced product out there in mass production in China to get a price from. Fix your face. It's an ugly mug

Great stuff.

[Battersea Power Station]

What is gimped on the Q and nexus 7?

He means he wants all his own files, stored on his own drives, and compressed with his favorite codecs.

Look, guys, I know it feels weird to stream all your entertainment, but it really is the future. Collecting and ripping Blu-Rays or their successor will probably still be around for hobbyists but don't expect major manufacturers to cater to your specific needs.

Most of us are ready to embrace an all streaming future.

[Andrex]

ALL STREAMING FUTURE #ftw

[D'ultimate]

No hdmi out, not sd card slot (both are on the vast majority of similarly priced android tablets). Meaning with the very limited storage space you have to rely on streaming from google play for almost all of your media. Not to mention Google blocks the USB Hub feature on Nexus devices despite being a feature of ICS (and Jelly Bean) without hacking.

Really dude? REALLY?!? It works perfectly fine on my Nexus and I can almost guarantee it will work on this device. Don't be so hyberbolic.

I think this is a great impulse buy. I also think a 7 inch tablet is great for consuming content on the go. Especially if it's an HD one. More so than a 10 inch tablet. Most sites will convert to mobile on a 7 inch tablet whereas 10 inch tablets sometimes will still display the desktop version.

This and a Surface Pro will make my laptop obsolete.

[dwebo]

He means he wants all his own files, stored on his own drives, and compressed with his favorite codecs. Look, guys, I know it feels weird to stream all your entertainment, but it really is the future. Collecting and ripping Blu-Rays or their successor will probably still be around for hobbyists but don't expect major manufacturers to cater to your specific needs. Most of us are ready to embrace an all streaming future.

*citation needed

[Dizzan]

He means he wants all his own files, stored on his own drives, and compressed with his favorite codecs. Look, guys, I know it feels weird to stream all your entertainment, but it really is the future. Collecting and ripping Blu-Rays or their successor will probably still be around for hobbyists but don't expect major manufacturers to cater to your specific needs. Most of us are ready to embrace an all streaming future.

I'm all for the stream and this will work great around the house (although why did they leave Google TV off this??? At least the other boxes can do Onlive etc), my only gripe is that when you are on the road/bus/holiday/aeroplane etc, what do you do then?

Plus price man. OUCH!

[Izick]

Really dude? REALLY?!? It works perfectly fine on my Nexus and I can almost guarantee it will work on this device. Don't be so hyberbolic. I think this is a great impulse buy. I also think a 7 inch tablet is great for consuming content on the go. Especially if it's an HD one. More so than a 10 inch tablet. Most sites will convert to mobile on a 7 inch tablet whereas 10 inch tablets sometimes will still display the desktop version. This and a Surface Pro will make my laptop obsolete.

Yeah, I've never been a PC gamer, so I'm really excited to move on to smaller devices that do just as much, if not better, and at a cheaper price than my laptop.

Plus, it helps that I like the Google ecosystem. Sadly, I wish I knew more people who uses Google +.

[Lynn616]

He means he wants all his own files, stored on his own drives, and compressed with his favorite codecs. Look, guys, I know it feels weird to stream all your entertainment, but it really is the future. Collecting and ripping Blu-Rays or their successor will probably still be around for hobbyists but don't expect major manufacturers to cater to your specific needs. Most of us are ready to embrace an all streaming future.

Can I not stream my rips to the Q or load and play them on the Nexus 7?

[-bakalhau-]

So... Nearly perfect tablet. Nearly. Even pricing is great. Tegra 3, great graphics performance, perfect as I want to do gaming on a tablet, and not on my 4' Nexus S, despite it performing very well. Future proof being a quad-core CPU, and having one of the best GPUs around, and optimizations for quite a lot of games.

But... 16GB... And no Micro SD card slot. 16GB with Gameloft games being 1GB+ and many more following suit lately just makes 16GB so little for gaming.

Phone-like UI. I always liked the HC/ICS tablet interface, and I was looking forward to experiencing it with 4.1 in this tablet. Yet it's the same 'regular' phone UI. Kinda of a waste?

Will you be able to switch between UIs? What's the chance ROMs will be made with 4.1 that will instead use the tablet UI?

Apart from this, freaking perfect.

[Copernicus]

Can I not stream my rips to the Q or load and play them on the Nexus 7?

The Q doesn't do anything other than play stuff tied to play accounts at the moment.

[Sean]

He means he wants all his own files, stored on his own drives, and compressed with his favorite codecs. Look, guys, I know it feels weird to stream all your entertainment, but it really is the future. Collecting and ripping Blu-Rays or their successor will probably still be around for hobbyists but don't expect major manufacturers to cater to your specific needs. Most of us are ready to embrace an all streaming future.

Streaming is great but not something you can depend on all the time. If you don't have an internet connection, or if their servers are suffering an outage or whatever, no access to your media.

[Lynn616]

The Q doesn't do anything other than play stuff tied to play accounts at the moment.

Oh lord. That's not for me.

[Izick]

The Q doesn't do anything other than play stuff tied to play accounts at the moment.

Not sure if I like that. Just sounds like an Apple TV, but not even that good.

[Andrex]

Google's goal with the Q is to make people think Google TV is a much better product than it otherwise is. GENIUS

[Delusibeta]

Well, at least it's nice to know that Google recognises that there's people who wants their products outside the US. Sure, they're only dealing with the UK, but it's a start.

From a UK perspective (8Gb is £160, 16Gb is £200), I can see this doing some real sales on the Android tablet market. Hopefully it'll get the other manufacturers to raise their game (and maybe get Amazon to release the Kindle Fire over here). Granted, lack of an SD card is definitely a bummer, and personally I don't have much use for a tablet, but still. I think this will prove to be popular.

[Chinpoko_Master]

I would totally buy a 10-inch version. I have no interest in 7-inch tablets.

It looks good though, I hope it's successful.

[HallucinatingElvis]

Asus is releasing the Memo 370T later this year. Same specs as this, basically the exact same thing as this for $250 with 16 GB internal but a camera on the back and a HDMI out and SD Card slot as well. Got approved by the FCC last month it seems, so should be out soon.

Oh really? I thought that got canned once they partnered with Google for the N7. Good to hear it hasnt, thanks for pointing that out!

I wish I knew more people who uses Google +.

I hear ya :-(

[bede-x]

I already have an iPad but jailbreaking iOS devices while wanting to keep up with OS updates is a pain in the ass. This is kinda tempting as a secondary device, and to have access to Android apps in general.

That's how I see it as well. While I already have an iPad, I'd still like to have access to Android apps and this looks mighty tempting. A shame that the bezel is so big, but I'm still gonna buy.

[NZer]

Interesting that in terms of price/features for tablets, the big 3 seem to have separated themselves into low/mid/top tiers, i.e. This/iPad/Surface

[Izick]

Interesting that in terms of price/features for tablets, the big 3 seem to have separated themselves into low/mid/top tiers, i.e. This/iPad/Surface

I thought the Surface was going to be more affordable. Could be wrong though.

[NomarTyme]

I thought the Surface was going to be more affordable. Could be wrong though.

Probably ignoring the non pro version....

[VanMardigan]

Interested, but lack of sd slot....

Yeah, I just can't believe they did this. Its the reason I never bought a Kindle Fire either. I don't get it, but their Galaxy Nexus doesn't have an SD card slot either, right? I don't get it.

[Delusibeta]

I thought the Surface was going to be more affordable. Could be wrong though.

Highly unlikely, going by the fact that a) Microsoft never mentioned a price and b) it's blatantly obvious they're gunning for the iPad's spot as the premium tablet.

[-bakalhau-]

Yeah, I just can't believe they did this. Its the reason I never bought a Kindle Fire either. I don't get it, but their Galaxy Nexus doesn't have an SD card slot either, right? I don't get it.

Neither does the Nexus S, my device. But 16GB for this phone is a lot I'd say. But for a tablet... I'd want at least 32GB. Even if it was 16 + 16.

[ghostofsparta]

Yeah, I just can't believe they did this. Its the reason I never bought a Kindle Fire either. I don't get it, but their Galaxy Nexus doesn't have an SD card slot either, right? I don't get it.

It's pretty obvious Google is pushing everything towards the cloud.

I've embraced it. I uploaded all my music and use dropbox with random files, apks, pictures etc.

Then again I only have about 4000 songs and no videos at all, so I ain't mad.

[opticalmace]

Neither does the Nexus S, my device. But 16GB for this phone is a lot I'd say. But for a tablet... I'd want at least 32GB. Even if it was 16 + 16.

I've had my Nexus S for about 8 or 9 months... I just checked, I've used about 300MB out of .. 13.3GB available?

Though, it's a different usage model I would think.

[Mindwipe]

I'm very interested. I don't really like any of the tablet options at the moment - Android had never offered a good high end tablet without fragmentation, I hate iOS's censorship model, Windows RT's censorship model is nearly as bad, and while the Intel Surface looks great, it seems like it needs one more hardware revision by Intel to really kick ass.

So I might be in the market for a dirt cheap short term solution. And hey ho. This is dirt cheap. And sold in the UK. And looks pretty good for the money, and will get native Google Android updates.