Suairyu
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(06-30-2012, 10:46 AM)
#101

Originally Posted by Devolution: View Post
It's a time sensitive pill that first stops ovulation, if that has already happened it stops fertilization, if that has already happened it stops implantation.

Christ. This is why we need real sex education.
Please. It's magic. You know it. I know it. Let's not try to understand it. We might make it angry.

Originally Posted by maniac-kun: View Post
So the war on women continues in the US.
Spear-headed by women, no less.
Gowans
(06-30-2012, 10:52 AM)

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#102

Some of these stories are terrible, what's going on over there?

Who gives a shit if it's against your beliefs, you're not the one taking it.
jaxword
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(06-30-2012, 10:55 AM)

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#103

Originally Posted by Gowans007: View Post
Some of these stories are terrible, what's going on over there?

Who gives a shit if it's against your believes, you're not the one taking it.
I assume you're not American.

As briefly as possible: Over the past 40 years, Christianity and politics have become intertwined to the point where they are one and the same. To the point where people can make ANY claim about what they believe and then scream "religious persecution" when said beliefs are called out for being horrible. Note the similarities to theocratic government behavior, i.e. Iran, Saudi Arabia.

It's an amazingly powerful weapon to use in political debate. Who wants to man up and go "yes, I am willing to accept the label of 'religious persecutor' to stop you" ? No one, so American politicians all have to play lip service to Christianity regardless of whether or not they actually believe it.

This filters into the population, and as a result people think that "Personal belief" is the same as "Important and should be a law."
Gowans
(06-30-2012, 11:00 AM)

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#104

Yeah Im not from the US.

Isnt the separation of church and state at the foundation of the country?

Why should a section of the populous with one belief have any power or say over others? (& isn't at the core of christianity, acceptance of others and charity?)

It's baffling to me, I'll never understand this.
Rocket Scientist
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(06-30-2012, 11:11 AM)

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#105

It's sad when a woman doesn't even know what those pills do.
Mr_Zombie
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(06-30-2012, 11:15 AM)

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#106

Originally Posted by Gowans007: View Post
Isnt the separation of church and state at the foundation of the country?
Theoretically, it is. But when needed, right-wing politicians will use an argument that "99% of citizens are Christians" (yes, that happened in Poland in several debates; it's doesn't matter that although ~99% of Poles were baptized, but maybe only half of that are practising, and maybe only half of that have traditional views common with the Church's) and thus we should do what religion/Church wants us to do. :/

Last week a major opposing party (right-wing of course) here wanted to pass a bill that would make in-vitro illegal (up to 2 years in jail for doing the operation) because it is against Church's teaching. o_O

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(& isn't at the core of christianity, acceptance of others and charity?)
Acceptance of others? Only if you admit your sin and do the justice. Then maybe you will be accepted. The "problem" (in the eyes of those Christians) is, many people do not see taking a pill as a sin.
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HP_Wuvcraft
(06-30-2012, 11:17 AM)

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#107

Originally Posted by Gowans007: View Post
Yeah Im not from the US.

Isnt the separation of church and state at the foundation of the country?

Why should a section of the populous with one belief have any power or say over others? (& isn't at the core of christianity, acceptance of others and charity?)

It's baffling to me, I'll never understand this.
It's at the point where state representatives get shushed up for saying "vagina" in a closed door session on the topic of vaginas.
jaxword
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(06-30-2012, 11:18 AM)

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#108

Originally Posted by Gowans007: View Post
Yeah Im not from the US.

Isnt the separation of church and state at the foundation of the country?

Why should a section of the populous with one belief have any power or say over others? (& isn't at the core of christianity, acceptance of others and charity?)

It's baffling to me, I'll never understand this.
Don't think of Christianity as a religion. Think of it like a political group. A very LARGE political group that has more power than any other. The reason it has more power is because of its trump card: morality. All religions claim they are the moral ones, and by default this means that if you disagree, you are immoral.

In the simpleminded world of American politics, telling people "Good people agree with me, bad people disagree" works incredibly well.

This is deliberate, by the way. The Right wing party in the US, the Republicans, have combined their party with religion and gained incredible power (due to numbers) over the past 40 or so years. This is partially to do with the IMMENSE propaganda campaign against Russia and the evils of COMMUNISM and ATHEISM.

Most people do not realize that if we went back in time 70 years, the Republicans are NOTHING like the current political group of hyper religious, pro-military right wingers.

Just look at :

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=29640

"The Republican Party is firmly opposed to involving this Nation in foreign war. "

There's no way an American Republican would say such a thing today.

Oh, and to answer your question:

Originally Posted by Gowans007: View Post
& isn't at the core of christianity, acceptance of others and charity?)
No. It's to gain power (more converts), just like every political group.
JGS
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(06-30-2012, 11:26 AM)

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#109

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This isn't just about women denied access when jailed (Although that in itself is problematic -- should a woman fear reporting a crime because she may be arrested?
Hmmm, I'm going to go with yes. My brain is not getting the notion of getting out a jail card for being a victim.

Hope she wins oodles of money though.
Originally Posted by jaxword: View Post
DNo. It's to gain power (more converts), just like every political group.
That is amazingly, goofily simplistic.
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Gowans
(06-30-2012, 02:02 PM)

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#110

Originally Posted by HP_Wuvcraft: View Post
It's at the point where state representatives get shushed up for saying "vagina" in a closed door session on the topic of vaginas.
That is pathetic
travisbickle
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(06-30-2012, 02:09 PM)

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#111

Originally Posted by Rocket Scientist: View Post
It's sad when a woman doesn't even know what those pills do.

Of course she knows, it kills God's will and sends all enablers to Hell.
neoism
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(06-30-2012, 02:21 PM)

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#112

Originally Posted by cutmeamango: View Post
Good thing I did some source surfing!


http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/06/25/47785.htm

Sue their asses.
good hope she wins millions and the guard is fucking fired.
coldfoot
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(07-04-2012, 10:56 AM)

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#113

Any news on the security guard Michelle Spinelli being fired and the city sued for millions?
Religion is one of the biggest fuckups of the human race.
We should make a website, maybe a deck of cards of people like the guard. The Ace of Spades, Jerry Falwell, is already dead, and the other aces on the deck, Rush, Glenn, and Sean.
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