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Dax01 · (07-01-2012, 03:24 AM)

Originally Posted by Devolution:

You know the more I read about politics the more I think that we do need two countries because of how polarized this shit is. Plus then the democrats could be the new right for the blue states and we could get some real liberals.

In addition to the real ones in Congress?

thefit · (07-01-2012, 03:24 AM)

Originally Posted by Diablos:

I thought the courts blocked that?

They ordered it to stop but since when has a criminal followed the law?

Zee-Row · (07-01-2012, 03:25 AM)

Also Rick Scott's biggest supporters come from Miami.

KevinCow · (07-01-2012, 03:25 AM)

Originally Posted by Dax01:

Because it is the federal government and they are states. End of story, really.

That doesn't answer my question.

If some state and its government just absolutely refuse to support and enforce it, what manner of action would the government take to make them do it? Take away funding? Remove the people from office? Send in the National Guard?

You can tell them, "Hey, you have to do what we tell you to do because we're the federal government and you are the states," until you're blue in the face, but if they're being stubborn and defiant like this, then is that gonna do anything?

Nakazato · (07-01-2012, 03:25 AM)

Originally Posted by Gallbaro:

Yes the well spent train to disney world.

The Rumor was it was going to run from JAX to Miami like i said it was a rumor but id rather no drive to Miami 6 1/2 ride and boring as shit.

shadyspace · (07-01-2012, 03:26 AM)

There are "real" liberal in the House and at the state level. Not so much in the Senate and the Executive branch.

Not a Jellyfish · (07-01-2012, 03:27 AM)

Originally Posted by Diablos:

Hey FL gaffers, could Scott hand the state to Obama in the fall if he's so unpopular there?

Those of us unhappy with Scott are not the ones that elected him...large majority of this state is still retarded.

PhoenixDawn · (07-01-2012, 03:28 AM)

Originally Posted by KevinCow:

That doesn't answer my question.

If some state and its government just absolutely refuse to support and enforce it, what manner of action would the government take to make them do it? Take away funding? Remove the people from office? Send in the National Guard?

You can tell them, "Hey, you have to do what we tell you to do because we're the federal government and you are the states," until you're blue in the face, but if they're being stubborn and defiant like this, then is that gonna do anything?

I feel like the removal of funding would be the main course of action. Take away the money from the politician and you'll definitely get their attention.

Diablos · (07-01-2012, 03:28 AM)

Originally Posted by thefit:

They ordered it to stop but since when has a criminal followed the law?

LOL. True.

shadyspace · (07-01-2012, 03:28 AM)

Originally Posted by QuiteWhittle:

No, he fucked you over.

What do you mean by this?

Nakazato · (07-01-2012, 03:29 AM)

Originally Posted by Link:

Thank God I live in Broward, away from the insanity to the north and the corruption to the south.

We are very insane in Jax 20 mins from GA if they ever wanted to cut of the state i would welcome it

DasRaven · (07-01-2012, 03:30 AM)

I fully expect Nikki Haley to follow suit as soon as possible.
Southern Nullification: Because it worked so well last time!

GaimeGuy · (07-01-2012, 03:30 AM)

Originally Posted by Arment:

Not happy to be moving back either, but that's where my family lives and they're my pillar while I'm in school. I want to move back to California or North Carolina when I finish school.

It's depressing driving down there for visits as I watch the scenery devolve from gorgeous forests, hills and mountains to flat dull deep green marshland and swamps.

Why in the hell would you go to florida for school?

Dreams-Visions · (07-01-2012, 03:30 AM)

Originally Posted by Alligatorjandro:

Rick Scott sucks

this. he will not be re-elected.

QuiteWhittle · (07-01-2012, 03:33 AM)

Originally Posted by shadyspace:

What do you mean by this?

Black southerner, family was mostly enslaved, etc. Just a joke.

GaimeGuy · (07-01-2012, 03:33 AM)

Originally Posted by Arment:

Not happy to be moving back either, but that's where my family lives and they're my pillar while I'm in school. I want to move back to California or North Carolina when I finish school.

It's depressing driving down there for visits as I watch the scenery devolve from gorgeous forests, hills and mountains to flat dull deep green marshland and swamps.

Why would you go to Florida for education? O_o

Originally Posted by KevinCow:

That doesn't answer my question.

If some state and its government just absolutely refuse to support and enforce it, what manner of action would the government take to make them do it? Take away funding? Remove the people from office? Send in the National Guard?

You can tell them, "Hey, you have to do what we tell you to do because we're the federal government and you are the states," until you're blue in the face, but if they're being stubborn and defiant like this, then is that gonna do anything?

I believe the US Marshals service can go in and arrest the governor and other high level state officials.

shadyspace · (07-01-2012, 03:34 AM)

Originally Posted by QuiteWhittle:

Black southner, family was mostly enslaved, etc. Just a joke.

yeah, I was joking too. letting them win would have been better for the North without the south dragging us down etc, wasn't sure if you thought I meant Lincoln fucked the south over.

The Technomancer · (07-01-2012, 03:35 AM)

Originally Posted by GaimeGuy:

Why would you go to Florida for education? O_o

My brother is because they have one of the most prestigious art schools in the country. We'll see how that works out.

Kusagari · (07-01-2012, 03:35 AM)

Originally Posted by Diablos:

LOL. True.

A federal judge ruled on Wednesday that it's a-ok to go through with it, no mater what the DOJ is saying.

Dax01 · (07-01-2012, 03:35 AM)

Originally Posted by KevinCow:

That doesn't answer my question.

If some state and its government just absolutely refuse to support and enforce it, what manner of action would the government take to make them do it? Take away funding? Remove the people from office? Send in the National Guard?

You can tell them, "Hey, you have to do what we tell you to do because we're the federal government and you are the states," until you're blue in the face, but if they're being stubborn and defiant like this, then is that gonna do anything?

The ability to run the exchanges doesn't need to be an office in the state. The federal government can simply run it from DC.

Str0ngStyle · (07-01-2012, 03:37 AM)

Originally Posted by DasRaven:

I fully expect Nikki Haley to follow suit as soon as possible.
Southern Nullification: Because it worked so well last time!

Don't you wish this shit on me. I still have to live in SC

GaimeGuy · (07-01-2012, 03:37 AM)

If Florida rejects their funding, the funds should be distributed to other states that will accept it.

Nakazato · (07-01-2012, 03:37 AM)

could this country beheading for another civil war? cause sometimes it really feels like it :|

gutter_trash · (07-01-2012, 03:37 AM)

not surprising considering Rick Scott's fraudulent past concerning health care in particular

Florida failed at voting for the right Governor, they deserve Scott

BobsRevenge · (07-01-2012, 03:38 AM)

Is he aware of how much federal aid his state receives?

Black-Box · (07-01-2012, 03:39 AM)

1.9Bs a year...

Diablos · (07-01-2012, 03:42 AM)

Originally Posted by Kusagari:

A federal judge ruled on Wednesday that it's a-ok to go through with it, no mater what the DOJ is saying.

Aw, hell.

BigJonsson · (07-01-2012, 03:47 AM)

Arrest him for treason!

Hero_of_the_Day · (07-01-2012, 03:51 AM)

Originally Posted by thefit:

He's mad because he's already been caught steeling government money and knows he wont be able to it it again. Yes Florida elected themselves a crook.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Scott

That is so fucked, all I could do was laugh.

Dreams-Visions · (07-01-2012, 03:56 AM)

Originally Posted by GaimeGuy:

Why would you go to Florida for education? O_o

just a note: Florida and Florida State are two of the cheapest in-state schools in the country.

FSU Tuition: $3,397.00

UF Tuition: $2,470.00

There are plenty of negative things to Florida...but higher education pricing is not one of them unless you're going to UMiami (private, $30k+).

The Outsider · (07-01-2012, 03:58 AM)

Come on, Florida. Let's do one thing right and get rid of this moron.

Nakazato · (07-01-2012, 03:59 AM)

Originally Posted by The Outsider:

Come on, Florida. Let's do one thing right and get rid of this moron.

im sure we will..... in 2015............................................

BigJonsson · (07-01-2012, 03:59 AM)

The Outsider · (07-01-2012, 04:01 AM)

Originally Posted by Nakazato:

im sure we will..... in 2015............................................

Yeah, I didn't realize election wasn't until 2014. I'll probably be out of state by then!

Bay Maximus · (07-01-2012, 04:03 AM)

My condolences. I wouldn't even wish this guy on Florida. Hopefully you guys show him the door in a couple of years. What a piece of work.

Lkr · (07-01-2012, 04:04 AM)

Originally Posted by Link:

Thank God I live in Broward, away from the insanity to the north and the corruption to the south.

don't remind me i have to live in north florida. people here are so dumb smh

Nakazato · (07-01-2012, 04:06 AM)

Originally Posted by The Outsider:

Yeah, I didn't realize election wasn't until 2014. I'll probably be out of state by then!

you and me both

RobotHaus · (07-01-2012, 04:06 AM)

Living in Florida is such a strange thing. There are wonderful things in the state, but there are terrible people in the state. Most of us are pretty quiet, but when the idiots speak up, the rest of the state takes a hit and we look as stupid as the company we keep.

That said, we all hate Rick Scott, except for the uneducated idiots who voted for him, and even then still I think the majority of the state wasn't allowed to vote in the previous election or possibly the election had some sort of mystery to it(this is Florida). If we could, we would remove him and I should do some research to make sure we can. Rick Scott is one of those universal subjects in Florida that can link the decent folk in the room, just bring up the Lightrail and they will all agree in unison about the worst decision in recent gubernatorial history.

JDSN · (07-01-2012, 04:08 AM)

Do this idiots cant see that they are only destroying the GOP? Or are they like double agents?

XMonkey · (07-01-2012, 04:09 AM)

The Federal government is funding the Medicaid expansion fully for like 3 years or something (2014-2017 I believe). He's going to turn down billions of dollars and make sure millions of his states citizens don't get health care? There should be angry mobs knocking down his door.

He also can't do shit about the exchanges. The Feds will be happy to come in and work the exchanges for him.

Matt · (07-01-2012, 04:09 AM)

Originally Posted by KevinCow:

That doesn't answer my question.

If some state and its government just absolutely refuse to support and enforce it, what manner of action would the government take to make them do it? Take away funding? Remove the people from office? Send in the National Guard?

You can tell them, "Hey, you have to do what we tell you to do because we're the federal government and you are the states," until you're blue in the face, but if they're being stubborn and defiant like this, then is that gonna do anything?

In that casem the ACA gives the federal government the power to set up the health exchange in the state, bypassing the state government completely.

ElectricBlue187 · (07-01-2012, 04:11 AM)

Originally Posted by JDSN:

Do this idiots cant see that they are only destroying the GOP? Or are they like double agents?

They don't care about the party's long term viability, only themselves

Dreams-Visions · (07-01-2012, 04:14 AM)

Originally Posted by XMonkey:

The Federal government is funding the Medicaid expansion fully for like 3 years or something (2014-2017 I believe). He's going to turn down billions of dollars and make sure millions of his states citizens don't get health care? There should be angry mobs knocking down his door.

He also can't do shit about the exchanges. The Feds will be happy to come in and work the exchanges for him.

I promise you he won't be re-elected. That shit will NOT happen.

NervousXtian · (07-01-2012, 04:15 AM)

So, Scott doesn't like Obamacare.. what's his solution to having the 3rd most uninsured constituents.

For some reason, I don't think Mr. Scott has an ideas on how to fix this.

Steelrain · (07-01-2012, 04:16 AM)

Originally Posted by GaimeGuy:

Why would you go to Florida for education? O_o

Uh......wut?

XMonkey · (07-01-2012, 04:17 AM)

Originally Posted by Dreams-Visions:

I promise you he won't be re-elected. That shit will NOT happen.

I hope so. Makes what he's saying even more pointless.

BotoxAgent · (07-01-2012, 04:20 AM)

Originally Posted by NervousXtian:

So, Scott doesn't like Obamacare.. what's his solution to having the 3rd most uninsured constituents.

For some reason, I don't think Mr. Scott has an ideas on how to fix this.

Republicans have one plan, try to destroy Obama. They could give two shits about jobs, economy, foreign policy--only as a talking point.

Oh yeah, they also care about what women do with their vaginas and keeping their idiot minions as dumb as possible.

GashPrex · 04:25 AM

You know for all the shit Florida gets on GAF - I pay no state income taxes, my property taxes are low, town services run well, roads are good and landscaped. I am not saying I agree with Scott but the FL government does something right.

This is in stark contrast to New England where I lived for 12 years where I paid high state taxes, town services were shitty and it was all generally dirty/old.

commedieu · (07-01-2012, 04:23 AM)

Originally Posted by Strike:

Obligatory.

Thank you. And it shouldn't have taken that long for someone to post. Gag is tripping.

BigDug13 · (07-01-2012, 04:25 AM)

Originally Posted by KevinCow:

Bobby Jindal from Louisiana said something similar.

What would happen if they actually followed through and refused to implement it? How would the federal government be able to make them comply?

The same way The Federal Government forced Montana to change their speed limit from "reasonable and prudent" to 75. "No more money until you comply".