[Yaboosh]

Pretty obvious why she's popular (hurr cute gamer gurlssss), but i'll say she's popular among casuals only and besides Spike's VGA's I haven't seen her anywhere. He was instigating her, I don't think it was needed.

Yeah, there is NO WAY she is popular for ANY REASON other than her looks. I mean, seriously dude, she is a WOMAN am I right? Haha, women, right dude? Dude.

[Dude Abides]

This Ryan Perez fellow seems pretty angry about stuff.

[News Bot]

Is there a story behind the Belmont gif? Sounds like she's not the type to bounce her tits for attention.

Not really. It was a joke, and got a few laughs out of me.

[Kikujiro]

Oh hark another strawman about a tired and overused trope when it comes to female subplots and story lines. God forbid fiction of any type ever undergo criticism for trite and shitty writing.

What strawman? You're only showing how aggressive you are towards people who are trying to discuss. You see the world as black or white, you pick an argument and decide what's right and what's wrong, but criticism doesn't work like that. The fact that you ignore Bergman's The Virgin Spring shows your ignorant way of discussing. Tropes aren't bad per se since everything can be considered a trope, you can find good writing and bad writing, but to you everything about rape/revenge is bad and shitty.
You want discussion but all you do is point out fingers and judge everything by your manichean view.

[volturnus]

Not really. It was a joke, and got a few laughs out of me.

Not the kind of joke she should do if she wants to earn any kind of respect, though, and it's also not doing female gaming ''journalists'' any favour.

[Curufinwe]

See, this is exactly why I hate this whole thing. Everything you listed, ALL OF IT... none of it has been beneficial to gaming.

Creating content about gaming and for games that a lot of people like is beneficial to gaming, whether you personally enjoy that content or not.

[Gustav]

The worst part about this thread are the people posting "who is Felicia Day?".

[News Bot]

Not the kind of joke she should do if she wants to earn any kind of respect, though, and it's also not doing female gaming ''journalists'' any favour.

So it's alright for dudes to make dick and ball jokes but a female joking about the female anatomy is off-limits? I don't get this reasoning. I respect her more for having a sense of humor than pretending she doesn't have breasts.

[ElTopo]

The worst part about this thread are the people posting "who is Felicia Day?".

She's not particularly known outside the US though. Those people could probably do what I did and use Wikipedia though.

[lifa-cobex]

The worst part about this thread are the people posting "who is Felicia Day?".

Never heard of her.

Dame fucking people expressing opions on a social media site. Who the fuck do they think they are.
Do they not understand that expressing an opinion could have serious repercussions such as............uhh retaliation of another opinion?

[Tarrasque]

The worst part about this thread are the people posting "who is Felicia Day?".

All I know about her is that 'The Guild' was one of the most cringe inducing 'gamer' shows I've had the chance to check out.

[ghibli99]

The worst part about this thread are the people posting "who is Felicia Day?".

I didn't know who she was until I started following her on FB. She's kind of loud and annoying, but she does post a lot of cool things relevant to what I like, so I haven't stopped following her... yet.

[GungHo]

Not for nothing, but I feel like the Dragon Age Felicia Day DLC thing was pretty much the tipping point for "geek girl" culture. Well, maybe Chobot in Mass Effect 3 tops that... but it's awfully close.

Look, if Bioware and whoever else can make money off of stunt casting Felicia Day, Jessica Chobot, Olivia Munn, Summer Glau, or whoever, so be it. Either the actors/actresses will be recognized for having talent and then be mainstreamed, or they'll be recognized for not having talent and will fall off the face of the Earth in a couple of years.

Besides, not everyone gets into their eventual career path in non-lame ways. George Clooney was on Facts of Life and it was lame even on the lamest show in the lamest decade. You can bash the Joss Whedon Talent Agency if you want, but there have been some decent finds.

From the sound of it, he got irritated that people were talking about her. And that made him post his little rant. Clearly not the most mature person in the world. Shouldnt be a fireable offense.

Sometimes being an immature person is a fireable offense. Furthermore, we don't know what happened behind the scenes. They could have fired him from for the comments alone, or they may have spoke to him about it and he might have continued to pop off, or maybe an advertiser called in, or maybe this is one incident in a string of many. Unless you were in on the decision, you have no idea what full story of his termination may have been, even if he tells you. Short of an EEOC suit (won't happen), those documents will never be publicized, for many good reasons.

Which begs the question: why do we tolerate assholes, but have no tolerance for sexists? They're both vile.

Because we're coming out of a full century of fighting protected-class-based oppression and are trained to be more sensitive to detecting it and more aggressive when addressing it, sometimes to the point of being over-sensitive and over-aggressive.

The worst part about this thread are the people posting "who is Felicia Day?".

After reading a 200+ post thread, to boot. Now 1100+.

[jett]

The worst part about this thread are the people posting "who is Felicia Day?".

What, is the world supposed to be familiar with this woman? First time I saw her was when she made an ass out of herself at last year's VGAs.

[Jackben]

The best part of this thread was finding out PrinceofApathy is basically Kenji from Katawa Shoujo.

[Cursed Frogurt]

Sometimes being an immature person is a fireable offense. Furthermore, we don't know what happened behind the scenes. They could have fired him from for the comments alone, or they may have spoke to him about it and he might have continued to pop off, or maybe an advertiser called in, or maybe this is one incident in a string of many. Unless you were in on the decision, you have no idea what full story of his termination may have been, even if he tells you. Short of an EEOC suit (won't happen), those documents will never be publicized, for many good reasons.

What happened behind the scenes has absolutely no bearing on my opinion that what he did on Twitter wasn't a fireable offense. If he compounded it with other shit, then so be it.

[animlboogy]

What happened behind the scenes has absolutely no bearing on my opinion that what he did on Twitter wasn't a fireable offense. If he compounded it with other shit, then so be it.

If you aren't the bossman up at Destructoid, and you aren't familiar with their goals, you have absolutely no idea what is and isn't a fireable offense.

If I was running a blog or something, I'd fire this dude for this, and I'd also fire Jim Sterling for being a sexist twat, joking or not. At Destructoid, they fire you for talking baseless shit on minor celebrities but not for open misogyny. You can glean what they're going for by reading between the lines there.

[RobbieNick]

Rules for keeping your job at Destructoid.

Poking fun at an internet celebrity = fired.

Throw a bunch of horribly sexist insults at non-celebrities (and be Jim Sterling) = keep your job.

Must be nice to be Jim Sterling.

[Foxtastical]

Gaming journalism's most prominent faces are just huge man babies.

[LQX]

The worst part about this thread are the people posting "who is Felicia Day?".

I had no idea who she was before this and I visit GAF nearly everyday. I still not sure how she looks.

[pigeon]

If any of you are interested why Jaffe thinks this way, his game Twisted Metal, his team, and himself was attacked by leigh alexander (there were also some snarky remarks about TM from her followers that she retweeted)from Gamasutra and not many people came to his defense and he did not even get a apology from alexander at all.

Wait, wait, wait. You don't see a distinction between calling somebody a glorified booth babe and saying you don't like a game? You think that there should be consequences for tweeting about how you think a game series isn't very good, and that that would be better for game journalism? Really?

Jaffe also got this http://kotaku.com/5883107/does-david...s-a-sexual-aid

Wait. You're criticizing this article for being a hit piece, because it suggests that saying "you should let your girlfriend win at Twisted Metal so that she'll blow you" is kind of rude? REALLY?

[EulaCapra]

He has a point with Felicia Day. She's an okay actress I guess from the brief stints I've seen her in, but she's definitely playing up the fact that she's a gamer and always involved in the Whedon-universe to get work/be noticed. Still, very rude to just open with an attack question on her twitter.

Should've just talked behind her back like normal people.

[Bufbaf]

Oh hark another strawman about a tired and overused trope when it comes to female subplots and story lines. God forbid fiction of any type ever undergo criticism for trite and shitty writing.

Oh god all that hair. Where does all that hair come from?

[Zuhzuhzombie!!]

Who said what about who?

Guy as a representative of a socially oriented company said something mean publicly to another person seemingly at random and was fired for it?

Oh, okay. Uh... Yeah. Sounds reasonable.

[Curufinwe]

I still not sure how she looks.

If only there was technology available that would let you find out.

[GungHo]

I had no idea who she was before this and I visit GAF nearly everyday. I still not sure how she looks.

There's a picture of her on almost every page of this thread.

[Roto13]

The worst part about this thread are the people posting "who is Felicia Day?".

I didn't know who she was.

So I googled her. It wasn't hard.

[Zefah]

What, is the world supposed to be familiar with this woman? First time I saw her was when she made an ass out of herself at last year's VGAs.

No, but you're not supposed to be a fucking moron who posts "who is this person?" in a thread on the Internet when you can find out the answer in the time it takes to post your ignorant-ass comment.

The worst part is that the majority of people doing this probably do know exactly who she is and are trying to dismiss her relevance and significance in a roundabout way.

[TheJollyCorner]

The worst part about this thread are the people posting "who is Felicia Day?".

more importantly, who is 'Gustav'?

[Heavy_D]

No, but you're not supposed to be a fucking moron who posts "who is this person?" in a thread on the Internet when you can find out the answer in the time it takes to post your ignorant-ass comment. The worst part is that the majority of people doing this probably do know exactly who she is and are trying to dismiss her relevance and significance in a roundabout way.

How is she relevant or significant to the gaming industry in any way?

Honestly there is nothing to dismiss.

[Zefah]

How is she relevant or significant to the gaming industry in any way? Honestly there is nothing to dismiss.

Whatever your personal opinion of her is, you can't simply ignore the things she has done.

How are there still people like you in this thread saying she has done nothing relevant to the gaming industry when that has been shown to be factually incorrect. "Significance" is subjective to an extent, so I'll not discuss that part.

[XANDER CAGE]

Not the kind of joke she should do if she wants to earn any kind of respect, though, and it's also not doing female gaming ''journalists'' any favour.

Doesn't she host a show on an internet streaming channel? Not exactly "serious" journalism. It's not like she was on the set of CNN. Plus, the idea that people shouldn't make jokes about or using their own damn bodies is pretty gross.

[DinnerRevealer]

Must be nice to be Jim Sterling.

Until the diabetes and heart disease set in.

[RoboGeorgeForeman]

Whatever your personal opinion of her is, you can't simply ignore the things she has done. How are there still people like you in this thread saying she has done nothing relevant to the gaming industry when that has been shown to be factually incorrect. "Significance" is subjective to an extent, so I'll not discuss that part.

I honestly had no clue who she was until I read this topic so even if she may have been in Fallout or other things related to gaming, she sure hasn't done jack shit to wind up on my radar.

[Heavy_D]

Whatever your personal opinion of her is, you can't simply ignore the things she has done.

Sure I can, seeing as how she never appears in daily gaming news.

I know she's done videos with Wil Wheaton, but if you don't watch those videos then you never see her. It's as simple as that.

[Sean]

How is she relevant or significant to the gaming industry in any way? Honestly there is nothing to dismiss.

Which gaming personalities would you deem "relevant" or "significant" to the industry?

Nobody ever has an answer to his question.

[Jintor]

Not the kind of joke she should do if she wants to earn any kind of respect, though, and it's also not doing female gaming ''journalists'' any favour.

I guess all women gaming journalists speak for all women journalists everywhere in the same way all male journalists automatically and consistently represent all male gaming journalists. Awww yeah, dat assumed burden. I'd love to never be able to do anything without worrying what perception issues it would have with all asian lawyers instead of just on me.

[John Rabbit]

Until the diabetes and heart disease set in.

goddamn you. beat me to it.

[Heavy_D]

Which gaming personalities would you deem "relevant" or "significant" to the industry? Nobody ever has an answer to his question.

People who create games or gaming consoles, and people who work for the most visited review sites.

These are people I would deem relevant and significant.

Making YT videos does not make you important.

[Acquiescence]

Until the diabetes and heart disease set in.

Best thing from scouring this miserable thread was reading this divine post.

[Lancehead]

People who create games or gaming consoles, and people who work for the most visited review sites. These are people I would deem relevant and significant. Making YT videos does not make you important.

I love that qualification.

[Sean]

People who create games or gaming consoles, and people who work for the most visited review sites. These are people I would deem relevant and significant. Making YT videos does not make you important.

You still haven't listed a single name.

Someone that is "significant" and "relevant" and that "appears in daily gaming news". Let's see some examples of gaming personalities that Felicia Day should aspire to be like.

[kingofthedead45]

All I know about her is that 'The Guild' was one of the most cringe inducing 'gamer' shows I've had the chance to check out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JqR3GVqib4

You don't know cringe inducing until you've seen the above, the guild isn't so bad in retrospect now is it?!

[Chacranajxy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JqR3GVqib4 You don't know cringe inducing until you've seen the above, the guild isn't so bad in retrospect now is it?!

When you need to bust out Video Game High School for comparison, you know The Guild is pretty miserable. VGHS is a hate crime.

[Jintor]

Culture's not just the good bits, you know

[Heavy_D]

You still haven't listed a single name.

I don't have too.

The relevant names are ones that everyone knows. Miyamoto, Kaz Hirai, Reggie Fils Aime, David Jaffe etc. etc. etc.

Just hang out around E3 and listen to the names that get dropped everywhere. Those are the people that are relevant to the gaming industry.

[Jintor]

Is Steve Blum relevant to the gaming industry? How about DC Douglas? Or Nolan North? Tara Strong?

[outunderthestars]

The worst part about this thread is that Destructoid still exists.

Fixed.

[RealDeadOne]

You still haven't listed a single name. Someone that is "significant" and "relevant" and that "appears in daily gaming news". Let's see some examples of gaming personalities that Felicia Day should aspire to be like.

That's the whole point, there doesn't need to be any "gaming personalities". That is the whole reason people dislike Day, because she tries so hard to be part of this "gaming culture" which doesn't need to exist at all. It's an industry and a hobby, not a culture.

There are people who make the games, people who sell the games, and people who inform consumers about the games. Those are the only "personalities" needed in the industry, those are the only people pertinent to this hobby. Felicia Day is not a developer or a designer, she does not own a company or a store, and she does not get early access to games or give informed insight into the quality of the games, so to most people who enjoy gaming as a hobby or are interested in it as an industry, instead of wanting to be part of the "culture" and have the "nerd image", she is completely and utterly irrelevant.

Is Steve Blum relevant to the gaming industry? How about DC Douglas? Or Nolan North? Tara Strong?

I would say no, they are relevant to the voice acting industry. But even then I'd say they're more relevant to gaming than Day because they either play multiple high profile characters or appear in hundreds of games, or both. Felicia Day has appeared in a scant handful of games as minor characters and her landing those roles had more to do with her name being connected with "nerd culture" than her previous voice roles.

[SomewhatGroovy]

I have no idea why this discussion is still being had. We're talking about paid actors here who typically do this sort of thing as a side job. Actors are always looking for the next job and are not losing sleep over any legacy they leave in the gaming world. They're paid ACTORS who may or may not have lifted a game controller in their life. At the end of the day, they're speaking other peoples words. The people who design, program, create these worlds we play bring about the only benefits that matter. Their hard work progressing and learning new techniques to give us unique and/or well made playing experiences benefit the industry. Without them, we would have nothing to play. If a voice actor is not available to lend their voice for two weeks for a character, I still have something to play.