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Ghost_Protocol · (07-02-2012, 12:25 AM)

Or did SO4 weld the seal on that coffin? I haven't even heard a whisper about that series in a long time.

Chromax · (07-02-2012, 12:27 AM)

I think that series joined Onimusha, Dino Crisis, Breath of Fire, and Power Stone. :(

Y2Kev · (07-02-2012, 12:27 AM)

Tri-ace will revive it after the 7th Saga series.

B.K. · (07-02-2012, 12:29 AM)

They need to wipe the slate clean and reboot the franchise.

Mechanized · (07-02-2012, 12:31 AM)

I really don't have faith in them. I don't think they could ever make another good Star Ocean game, so I'd rather see a new RPG.

sublimit · (07-02-2012, 12:32 AM)

Well at least SO got one chance this generation.

Valkyrie Profile got zero.

ShadowgeistX · (07-02-2012, 12:33 AM)

Originally Posted by B.K.:

They need to wipe the slate clean and reboot the franchise.

Edge Maverick II in the style of DmC's Dante, how awesome would that be?

DR2K · (07-02-2012, 12:34 AM)

There's usually 1 per gen.

Jucksalbe · (07-02-2012, 12:35 AM)

Wasn't the The Last Hope supposed to be the last game and the end of the series?

Cels · (07-02-2012, 12:35 AM)

Originally Posted by sublimit:

Well at least SO got one chance this generation.

Valkyrie Profile got zero.

it got a DS game!

Nirolak · (07-02-2012, 12:36 AM)

Tri-Ace is basically only doing contract work these days, and I don't think Square Enix is interested in more console games made entirely by them.

KillerTravis · (07-02-2012, 12:36 AM)

Originally Posted by sublimit:

Well at least SO got one chance this generation.

Valkyrie Profile got zero.

LeadProtagonist · (07-02-2012, 12:37 AM)

Star Ocean: The Second Story is still probably one of my favorite games.

Sad they couldn't match its quality so... I guess the series can be put to rest now. They've tried.

Rpgmonkey · (07-02-2012, 12:38 AM)

They only really make one Star Ocean per generation anyway. Assuming the series were still alive they probably wouldn't have much to say about it right now.

tri-Ace doesn't seem to have anyone willing to help them out with a big console game though, so I'm doubtful SOV (or VP3) are happening...

Minyobi · (07-02-2012, 12:38 AM)

Originally Posted by ShadowgeistX:

Edge Maverick II in the style of DmC's Dante, how awesome would that be?

After The Last Hope, I'd accept that.

Kagari · (07-02-2012, 12:40 AM)

Square Enix threw poor tri-ace under the bus after SO4.

Ghost_Protocol · (07-02-2012, 12:40 AM)

Originally Posted by sublimit:

Well at least SO got one chance this generation.

Valkyrie Profile got zero.

Now THAT series is dead.

sublimit · (07-02-2012, 12:40 AM)

Originally Posted by KillerTravis:

I have COTP.

But i was thinking more about a console game since SO4 was also one.

CronoShot · (07-02-2012, 12:40 AM)

I played the remakes of the first two on PSP, and they were fantastic. Shame the series is probably over, but given how SO3 and 4 turned out, that might be for the best.

The_Inquisitor · (07-02-2012, 12:41 AM)

Huge SO fan. After seeing the reviews for the new one i didn't even bother. I played SO for the cheezy yet decent story. The characters just looked plain dumb for V.

KillerMan91 · (07-02-2012, 12:42 AM)

Didn't Star Ocean IV still sell kinda good? especially if you add PS3 version sales? Not to mention that MS probably paid something for timed exclusivity. As much as I hated the art and characters I still loved the battle system and would like to see sequel.

Man-is-Obsolete · (07-02-2012, 12:42 AM)

The better question is will Tri Ace ever head a game again?

The best question is does Tri Ace even the staff to make a game?

Oemenia · (07-02-2012, 12:43 AM)

That tech demo they released looked really promising. Would be a great place to start a reboot from.

I really dont understand why Japanese developers arent taking advantage of the success of the PS3 in Japan, heck both the HD systems have done well overseas as well.

Zekes! · (07-02-2012, 12:43 AM)

I actually really liked Star Ocean 3. Never played 4, but 2 and 1 were also pretty dece from what I've played of them.

They could use better writers though, that's for sure.

Die Squirrel Die · (07-02-2012, 12:44 AM)

I wonder what will happen with the stuff from that tech demo they did? I guess a best case scenario is that they are pushing forward with their own games on their next-gen engine and the contract work is just biding their time and keeping the lights on.

Kaizer · (07-02-2012, 12:45 AM)

Is it wrong I'd take a sequel of SO4 just to laugh at the ludicrous story & dialogue? The gameplay was great, and the characters had me rolling from the surreal absurdity of everything going on. Wouldn't pay more than $30 for it, but yeah, I'll take my nappy time 'kay?

LuuKyK · (07-02-2012, 12:45 AM)

Whatever happened to that tech demo they showed earlier this year?

Goli · (07-02-2012, 12:45 AM)

Originally Posted by Oemenia:

That tech demo they released looked really promising. Would be a great place to start a reboot from.

I really dont understand why Japanese developers arent taking advantage of the success of the PS3 in Japan, heck both the HD systems have done well overseas as well.

Because handhelds.

sublimit · (07-02-2012, 12:45 AM)

Originally Posted by Kagari:

Square Enix threw poor tri-ace under the bus after SO4.

If i'm not mistaken they released a demo showcasing their new graphics engine after SO4,am i wrong?

The_Inquisitor · (07-02-2012, 12:46 AM)

Actually, V may be one of my biggest disappointments of the gen along with the state of console JRPG's. Tales of Vesperia has been my only JRPG I have completed this gen.

Ghost_Protocol · (07-02-2012, 12:46 AM)

Originally Posted by LuuKyK:

Whatever happened to that tech demo they showed early this year?

Oh this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cuXgRVMvZ0

They have to be working on something. Why show that?

Kagari · (07-02-2012, 12:47 AM)

Originally Posted by LuuKyK:

Whatever happened to that tech demo they showed earlier this year?

More like April 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cuXgRVMvZ0

B.K. · (07-02-2012, 12:47 AM)

Originally Posted by Ghost_Protocol:

Nani?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cuXgRVMvZ0

It wasn't from this year. It's from 2011.

Jucksalbe · (07-02-2012, 12:47 AM)

Originally Posted by The_Inquisitor:

Actually, V may be one of my biggest disappointments of the gen along with the state of console JRPG's.

You haven't even played the game.

-Pyromaniac- · (07-02-2012, 12:48 AM)

Still don't get the decision to put it on the 360 first lol. Was that MS paying? Was that a SE decision?

BlackIronCount · (07-02-2012, 12:50 AM)

we need to know what the hell exactly happened with Tri Ace First?
(last time we heard they working with konami and level 5 3ds and psp game, and helping FFXIII-2 development)

if we manage to see VP3 i think SO5 can happen!

LuuKyK · (07-02-2012, 12:50 AM)

Yeah, sorry, thats the one. It literally screams Star Ocean. It just feels like a teaser somehow... They wouldn't release it if they didnt intended to use it, or they are just going to use it on Square projects?

Kagari · (07-02-2012, 12:57 AM)

Originally Posted by LuuKyK:

Yeah, sorry, thats the one. It literally screams Star Ocean. It just feels like a teaser somehow... They wouldn't release it if they didnt intended to use it, or they are just going to use it on Square projects?

It's a tech demo for their own internal engine.

Chacranajxy · (07-02-2012, 12:58 AM)

I seem to recall that SO4 was called "The Last Hope" because it literally was the last hope for the series... Square was planning to can it if it didn't do well.

It didn't do well.

Nirolak · (07-02-2012, 01:01 AM)

Originally Posted by LuuKyK:

Yeah, sorry, thats the one. It literally screams Star Ocean. It just feels like a teaser somehow... They wouldn't release it if they didnt intended to use it, or they are just going to use it on Square projects?

My prediction at the time was that it was a last ditch effort to try and generate interest in signing them for a console game.

It failed and now they serve largely as an outsourcing house.

Mxrz · (07-02-2012, 01:05 AM)

It didn't do well compared to what?

Anyhow. I still liked SO4. Characters and writing were kind of bad, but the general plot had a nice setup, graphics were nice and colorful, and the battle system was top notch. Thats the most important bits. It seems like SE is trying to get themselves straightened out presently, maybe after that happens we'll see talk of a new game.

Kyoufu · (07-02-2012, 01:07 AM)

At this point I would take VP3 on 3DS.

I've given up hope though.

Auskeek · (07-02-2012, 01:08 AM)

Originally Posted by -Pyromaniac-:

Still don't get the decision to put it on the 360 first lol. Was that MS paying? Was that a SE decision?

I would love to know the answer to this. Along with Tales of Vesperia.

computers putin' · (07-02-2012, 01:09 AM)

Originally Posted by Zekes!:

I actually really liked Star Ocean 3. Never played 4, but 2 and 1 were also pretty dece from what I've played of them.

They could use better writers though, that's for sure.

I hold the same opinions as you do regarding 3, 2, and 1, and I thought 4 was terrible outside of the battle system. First time I found a cast of characters and writing so bad that I couldn't even force myself to finish a game.

dramatis · (07-02-2012, 01:10 AM)

Originally Posted by Nirolak:

My prediction at the time was that it was a last ditch effort to try and generate interest in signing them for a console game.

It failed and now they serve largely as an outsourcing house.

I think that if Platinum can still do it, Triace probably can too. But that might be too hopeful.

sega4ever · (07-02-2012, 01:11 AM)

Originally Posted by Auskeek:

I would love to know the answer to this. Along with Tales of Vesperia.

bills need to be paid yo

davepoobond · (07-02-2012, 01:15 AM)

we need a valkyrie profile 3. 2 was awesome sauce. and the story just went into WTFSpace at the end so i want moreee

Kagari · (07-02-2012, 01:15 AM)

Originally Posted by -Pyromaniac-:

Still don't get the decision to put it on the 360 first lol. Was that MS paying? Was that a SE decision?

Around the time of announcement, MS was still pushing pretty hard in Japan. The Great RPG Rush of 2008, I believe it's called where they had Tales of Vesperia, Last Remnant and SO4 all announced for the system.

Supermanisdead · (07-02-2012, 01:17 AM)

SO4 is the worst game I've ever played. Leave that series alone forever.

LuuKyK · (07-02-2012, 01:17 AM)

Originally Posted by Nirolak:

My prediction at the time was that it was a last ditch effort to try and generate interest in signing them for a console game.

It failed and now they serve largely as an outsourcing house.

You mean like Square-Enix did with the Agnis Philosophy thing?

But also, on a side note, why does tri-ace help SE? Do they signed a contract or something? Because they actually helped a lot on XIII-2 iirc. They cant release a game by themselves anymore?