[EndcatOmega]

Also Nova is guaranteed to not be Richard Rider with Loeb at the helm which not only makes little sense but also completely ignores one of the best characters of the comic stories...and the -real- Nova.

Considering the way Nova works, a new one isn't exactly impossible or even a totally bad thing; it's just... you'd need a much better author to pull it off.

(Guess there's no point in spoilering stuff anymore?)

[jph139]

I wonder if Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H. will be a Thunderbolts relaunch. Hulk? Skarr? Luke Cage? One team? Shit yes.

Well, they're coming out with a new cartoon with the name, and it has Hulk, Red Hulk, She-Hulk, Skaar, and A-Bomb... so I wouldn't get your hopes up unless you really, really like Hulks.

[BenjaminBirdie]

Well, they're coming out with a new cartoon with the name, and it has Hulk, Red Hulk, She-Hulk, Skaar, and A-Bomb... so I wouldn't get your hopes up unless you really, really like Hulks.

Ha ha ha WHAT???

AWESOME.

[Tom_Cody]

Well, they're coming out with a new cartoon with the name, and it has Hulk, Red Hulk, She-Hulk, Skaar, and A-Bomb... so I wouldn't get your hopes up unless you really, really like Hulks.

Lol, who/what will they even fight?

[Parallax]

Lol, who/what will they even fight?

everybody and everything. i wish that hulk series with devil dinosaur would have existed...

[Hehateme]

Ha ha ha WHAT??? AWESOME.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/...hulk-embed.jpg
Edit: Feel kinda meh about, but Dini is involved

[Parallax]

Ultimate verse tainting 616? God no.

this. after the evil reed shenanigans, the universe needs to be monitored by a.r.m.o.r and sealed the fuck off.

[Htown]

Don't know about subscriptions, but Marvel went same-day digital earlier this year. Marvel's 616 universe needed a black Nick Fury, because movie Nick Fury is Samuel L. Jackson, so they created an illegitimate black son for white Nick Fury, poked out his eye and shaved his head, and made him an agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. Oh, and his best friend is Agent Coulson too. Oh, and it turns out his actual birth name is Nicholas Fury, Jr. I know. :|

Wait.

You're kidding, right?

[Parallax]

Wait. You're kidding, right?

not even.

[Banana Kid]

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/...hulk-embed.jpg Edit: Feel kinda meh about, but Dini is involved

Dini was "involved" with Ultimate Spider-Man too, and it didn't help that show. I'm not expecting SMASH to be any good.

[ViewtifulJC]

Wait. You're kidding, right?

The most transparent "story as marketing tool" in the world!

[TDLink]

Considering the way Nova works, a new one isn't exactly impossible or even a totally bad thing; it's just... you'd need a much better author to pull it off. (Guess there's no point in spoilering stuff anymore?)

Under normal circumstances I would agree with you. Considering how Nova left off in The Thanos Imperative though it makes no sense.

[EndcatOmega]

Under normal circumstances I would agree with you. Considering how Nova left off in The Thanos Imperative though it makes no sense.

Depends where the new Nova comes from, so to speak; though I doubt Loeb would go that route.

[Htown]

The most transparent "story as marketing tool" in the world!

I fucking hate Marvel management and their bullshit idea that they have to change their current comic universe to match the movie adaptations. It's the stupidest shit in the world.

[TDLink]

Depends where the new Nova comes from, so to speak; though I doubt Loeb would go that route.

Well simply put, in terms of the 616 universe it -should- be impossible that any Nova can exist until Richard Rider somehow returns. Any explanation otherwise is going to be dumb and make no sense in regards to what we know about the Nova Force. I'll also add that what we have seen from the Sam Alexander character so far leaves a lot to be desired and is completely cringe inducing so him becoming the new "main" Nova is a horrifying prospect.

[BenjaminBirdie]

I fucking hate Marvel management and their bullshit idea that they have to change their current comic universe to match the movie adaptations. It's the stupidest shit in the world.

I don't see the logic in it. It's a perfectly healthy medium that should never inspire this kind of blind flailing around. They should be perfectly happy that every month the readership of the most popular comic book title might be enough to fill a movie theater on an opening weekend.

A movie theater.

[Htown]

Actually, DC does that shit too, now that I think about it. The whole "One Year Later" stunt was just so they could have a "Superman Returns" type story around when the movie came out.

These dudes are so fucking insecure it's ridiculous.

[BenjaminBirdie]

Actually, DC does that shit too, now that I think about it. The whole "One Year Later" stunt was just so they could have a "Superman Returns" type story around when the movie came out. These dudes are so fucking insecure it's ridiculous.

Because their entire industry is choking to death, month by month.

[TDLink]

I fucking hate Marvel management and their bullshit idea that they have to change their current comic universe to match the movie adaptations. It's the stupidest shit in the world.

It's based entirely on faulty logic. They see how many people go to see the Marvel films and go "why can't we grow the comic market and have all of these movie-goers read their new favourite characters?" The problem with that line of thinking is that comics are, and always will be, much more niche than movies. That is the line of thinking though, unfortunately. The core of Marvel's business now -is- the films. They just make way more money. Everything is transitioning to that and starting in 2014 we are getting at least 3 movies a year. I am sure eventually it will be 4-5 a year.

[Htown]

The funny thing is, they're actually destroying what it is that's making them all that movie money. Doing awesome stories in the comics allows them to adapt those stories to the movies (ex. the rumors about Extremis and the Winter Soldier for the upcoming Iron Man and Cap movies), but then when they get successful movies they rush to make the comics more like the movies instead of continuing to make awesome stories they can make more movies from. It's so stupid.

[BenjaminBirdie]

The funny thing is, they're actually destroying what it is that's making them all that movie money. Doing awesome stories in the comics allows them to adapt those stories to the movies (ex. the rumors about Extremis and the Winter Soldier for the upcoming Iron Man and Cap movies), but then when they get successful movies they rush to make the comics more like the movies instead of continuing to make awesome stories they can make more movies from. It's so stupid.

That's kind of faulty logic. They didn't put the brakes on any stories to make Battle Scars. They farmed it out to a B-Team and continued to generate top class stuff by the heavyweights. Uncanny X-Force, for example, was still being released by Marvel alongside the kind of blatant pandering of Battle Scars.

[Anticitizen One]

I wonder if Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H. will be a Thunderbolts relaunch. Hulk? Skarr? Luke Cage? One team? Shit yes.

well it's named after a new children's animated series by Disney so it will probably be influenced by that.

[NEO0MJ]

The most transparent "story as marketing tool" in the world!

Wait a minuteWhy bother introducing Phil if he's dead?

[Pop-O-Matic]

Wait a minuteWhy bother introducing Phil if he's dead?

He's very popular and Marvel would be damned if they didn't take advantage of that, regardless of if he is still alive in the movies.

[sparky2112]

It's superheroes. If you already care, you probably shouldn't. If you don't already care, this won't change anything.

[BenjaminBirdie]

It's superheroes. If you already care, you probably shouldn't. If you don't already care, this won't change anything.

This should be the masthead for all Comics-GAF Spin Off threads.

[TruePrime]

I just really want to know who will lead the new Uncanny team. As it is, they have what could equal 5 leaders.

From the picture I would guess Iron Man given his placement. That said, Cap/Wolverine/Thor/Iron Man/or Cyke all could lead/co lead it.

[krypt0nian]

This should be the masthead for all Comics-GAF Spin Off threads.

Seriously. All they do is invite the idiotic "wow aren't comics stupid" people, and I didn't make enough cake for these fools.

[Dead]

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/...hulk-embed.jpg Edit: Feel kinda meh about, but Dini is involved

this...this is awesome

[MG310]

Really hope Waid is sticking around on Daredevil even though Paolo Rivera is leaving.

[BenjaminBirdie]

All the juicy info, now Johnston free:
http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/07/03/ma...rey-exclusive/

[Spike Spiegel]

All the juicy info, now Johnston free: http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/07/03/ma...rey-exclusive/

Nice. Will add info and the full image to OP. :)



Looks like everyone's getting a new costume except Sue and Logan. Not keen on some of the changes (example: why in the hell does Thor need dual swords too?). Scott looks terrible in red, give that red back to Tony. :\

[Affeinvasion]

It's a good thing Thor is sporting two swords just in case he runs out of Mjolnir. At least Cable's gun doesn't take up half the page.

[BenjaminBirdie]

Now I see the SHIELD logo on the robot.

S.K.E.E.T.S. right??

LOL

[TDLink]

Most of those costume redesigns look pretty bad.

[ghostmind]

Well Cap sure looks like movie-Cap now.


And does Cable have a metal T-O arm again?

[BenjaminBirdie]

Well Cap sure looks like movie-Cap now. And does Cable have a metal T-O arm again?

Looks robotic. Maybe they removed the old one.

[ultron87]

I really like Iron Man's current armor. Doesn't need the redesign.

[krypt0nian]

I really like Iron Man's current armor. Doesn't need the redesign.

That's the costume change I love! The others are fine, but Black and Gold!

Skipping any book with Marcus Fauxfury in it. Creative bankruptcy at it's finest.

[ep85]

Just finished catching up on Remender's Secret Avengers. This man can do no wrong. Him and Cassaday on Uncanny Avengers will be the book to watch out for.

[ReiGun]

Not feeling Cap. At all.

[ultron87]

That's the costume change I love! The others are fine, but Black and Gold!

The colors are alright, but his current (or at least current as of last trade I read) suit is hot:

Can I request that the monthly comic thread when this starts has the subtitle: "Now! That's What I Call Comics"?

[Blader5489]

Black and gold Iron Man looks sick.

[jph139]

Black and Gold Iron Man makes me think of MAINFRAME from MC2.

Don't mind the new Cyclops (though the X Visor is a bit tacky), and I really like the Future Foundation outfits so I'm glad they seem to be sticking with that style... but man, otherwise they're pretty shitty across the board.

[ultron87]

And Cap has his serial killer face on.

[Pie and Beans]

I am very iffy on all this. Very very iffy. Greg Land on Iron Man for instance, blegh. Worries of Remender being spread too thin.

One thing I will say, is if Scott's X-Men all don red, while Wolverine's go for traditional blue and yellow on everyone again, I will be very pleased. Bring some fucking cohesion back to the teams. Everyones a goddam Avenger now after this hits I guess, but X-Men and Fantastic Four/FF members have a goddam uniform.

[Dram]

Black and gold Iron Man looks sick.

I wonder how long it will last before they change it, to match the one in Iron Man 3.

[tim1138]

How is Cyke supposed to actually see out of that mask?

[Nesotenso]

I wonder how long it will last before they change it, to match the one in Iron Man 3.

till may 2013

[enzo_gt]

The current Tron-esque Iron Man looks cheap. Not that I'm not a fan of that kind of look since I absolutely love it, it just feels poorly done. Feels like a temporary thing anyway.

Need to see more of that black and gold.