[evil solrac v3.0]

so DC is doing the whole armored look and Marvel will now do the whole ribbed look.

[shaowebb]

Playing Havok up to the big leagues? Yes.

Needs more Iron Fist though. I see him nowhere on this list and it worries me.

[Gr1mLock]

Unless he has a breakout Evo moment in MVC4 or another X-Men movie, never.

Pretty funny how he's been fairly relevant in cannon but gets so little attention. Marvel finally got gambit back into the mix only to make him some kind of a fucking walking punchline who gets duffed in the face by every tom dick and harry who happens to be around. Really disappointing for me personally since i was a huge fan of the gambit solo book and he is still one of my favorites.

[TDLink]

Playing Havok up to the big leagues? Yes. Needs more Iron Fist though. I see him nowhere on this list and it worries me.

Considering this is all probably going to be catastrophically terrible it is probably a good thing he is spared from it. Marvel is still making new comics other than these though and Iron Fist is a semi-popular character. I wouldn't worry about new things coming out with him, they will.

[Parallax]

Playing Havok up to the big leagues? Yes. Needs more Iron Fist though. I see him nowhere on this list and it worries me.

hopefully with a revision of his badass leather jacket costume.

[Hehateme]

Cyclops looks ridiculous, calling it now he's turning into a supervillian.
Eveyone mentioning Ironman rocking black & gold reminds me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce4ClAQWyI4
Meh on eveybody else's new look.

[HP_Wuvcraft]

The most transparent "story as marketing tool" in the world!

What.

The shit.

Besides the obvious shit, SHIT writing, there are so many ways they could have brought Ultimates Fury into the 616 universe that would have "worked".

[Slayven]

What. The shit. Besides the obvious shit, SHIT writing, there are so many ways they could have brought Ultimates Fury into the 616 universe that would have "worked".

Why make shit complex?

[Black_Stride]

Nice. Will add info and the full image to OP. :) [img]http://i.imgur.com/XOB8x.jpg[/im] Looks like everyone's getting a new costume except Sue and Logan. Not keen on some of the changes (example: why in the hell does Thor need dual swords too?). Scott looks terrible in red, give that red back to Tony. :\

Im Ok with everything except.
Armored Hulk?....His skin is probably tougher than the armor he is wearing
Thor has two swords on his back.....whats that like triple wielding now?
Cyclops the red is hardcore.....the Xreme X visor.....no just no.

The ironman suit i actually like, black gold and red, pretty awesome

[bengraven]

Remember when Quesada stepped in and everything was right for a little while?


Someone else needs to step in and make things right for a while.

[TruePrime]

Im Ok with everything except. Armored Hulk?....His skin is probably tougher than the armor he is wearing Thor has two swords on his back.....whats that like triple wielding now? Cyclops the red is hardcore.....the Xreme X visor.....no just no. The ironman suit i actually like, black gold and red, pretty awesome

So is Wolverine and Jean the only two who really didn't recieve a make over? For the most part Wolverine is looking like he did for the last year and Jean is a pretty good call back to the old style.

Got to say though, while not a Cyke fan that outfit is pure garbage. Want to see more of Thor, he still has the amazing armor like design and looks like his hair could be shorter along with the new blades.

Also I always hate it when they add black to Iron Man. Really just wish they would stick to War Machine for blacks/silvers. That said I do prefer War Machine so it could be me being jealous.

[The Take Out Bandit]

Pretty funny how he's been fairly relevant in cannon but gets so little attention. Marvel finally got gambit back into the mix only to make him some kind of a fucking walking punchline who gets duffed in the face by every tom dick and harry who happens to be around.

That's how he's always been.

Glass jaw bitch. :D

[Parallax]

Besides the obvious shit, SHIT writing, there are so many ways they could have brought Ultimates Fury into the 616 universe that would have "worked".

having him cross over would irritate me greatly. this is bad, but its at least a new slated character created by bullshit

That's how he's always been. Glass jaw bitch. :D

oh you.

[The Take Out Bandit]

Yeah, but the medium is as healthy as it had been in a long time. Their time has passed. I say let them die.

If it bleeds we can kill it.

With the wholesale creative bankruptcy in Hollywood and funnybooks I'm wondering when these Titans will fall to make way for the new Pantheon?

A smart and hungry competitor could cut them off at the knees by embracing digital as the monthly format, go inexpensive, and use that to subsidize trades in print. In a way an Western take on the Japanese format where weeklies are printed on cheap recycled paper, read, disposed, and the tankouban is the format readers buy to collect / keep.

The $3/4 digital funnybook is destined to fail. Your retailer pays $1.50-2.00 for their books, and Diamond pays even less than that. Why is digital being hobbled by a broken distribution chain, other than to pacify the direct market. Which could still exist in the healthier comic market I'm suggesting, only now they'd sell trade paperbacks and whatever back issues they have to the weirdos like me who prefer their funnies on dead trees like a vinyl music nerd or something.

[WanderingWind]

What really bugs me about the constant rehashing of characters is that it's just so unecessary - especially with the X books. There are so many damned beloved characters. Kid Omega, Surge, Majik, Stepfords, Dust, (fill in your favorites) that get a brief chance to shine until their creators move on, then they end up blown up off panel or crucified on a front lawn somewhere and it's back to the same shitty stories about Wolverine.

I'd love to see Marvel let the old X-Men "retire" and they just not allow the old characters in the books at all. No guest appearances, no nothing. Just newer characters. See what develops. Blah, blah, Wolvie books sell. Well, you don't know what else will sell because you throw out developing characters before they ever have a chance to really be anything more than sidekicks or red shirts.

[Parallax]

What really bugs me about the constant rehashing of characters is that it's just so unecessary - especially with the X books. There are so many damned beloved characters. Kid Omega, Surge, Majik, Stepfords, Dust, (fill in your favorites) that get a brief chance to shine until their creators move on, then they end up blown up off panel or crucified on a front lawn somewhere and it's back to the same shitty stories about Wolverine. I'd love to see Marvel let the old X-Men "retire" and they just not allow the old characters in the books at all. No guest appearances, no nothing. Just newer characters. See what develops. Blah, blah, Wolvie books sell. Well, you don't know what else will sell because you throw out developing characters before they ever have a chance to really be anything more than sidekicks or red shirts.

those characters are beloved?

["God's Beard!"]

Fucking Marvel and their character stock market, man.

[WanderingWind]

those characters are beloved?

I just choose some of the top of my head. But yeah, Dust and Kid Omega are definite fan favs. The point being that we really don't know shit about half of the new guys, but we all know like, everything about the "mysterious" Wolverine.

[The Take Out Bandit]

What really bugs me about the constant rehashing of characters is that it's just so unecessary - especially with the X books. There are so many damned beloved characters. Kid Omega, Surge, Majik, Stepfords, Dust, (fill in your favorites) that get a brief chance to shine until their creators move on, then they end up blown up off panel or crucified on a front lawn somewhere and it's back to the same shitty stories about Wolverine. I'd love to see Marvel let the old X-Men "retire" and they just not allow the old characters in the books at all. No guest appearances, no nothing. Just newer characters. See what develops. Blah, blah, Wolvie books sell. Well, you don't know what else will sell because you throw out developing characters before they ever have a chance to really be anything more than sidekicks or red shirts.

The problem here is the 80's was the last time Marvel / DC saw a surge in new content before the creator ownership movement caught on and people stopped handing over their characters to these conglomerates.

So Marvel and DC are stuck rehashing the shit they own because they refuse to change their ways. At best they'll pay a creator lip service, but cutting them a percentage of the profits from the creation? Unheard of! If Disney / Marvel gave Jim Starlin just 1% of the profits from the Avengers, he and his offspring would be pretty well set.

It may be inevitable that these companies will topple in time as a new generation embraces the digital distribution model.

[WanderingWind]

The problem here is the 80's was the last time Marvel / DC saw a surge in new content before the creator ownership movement caught on and people stopped handing over their characters to these conglomerates. So Marvel and DC are stuck rehashing the shit they own because they refuse to change their ways. At best they'll pay a creator lip service, but cutting them a percentage of the profits from the creation? Unheard of! If Disney / Marvel gave Jim Starlin just 1% of the profits from the Avengers, he and his offspring would be pretty well set. It may be inevitable that these companies will topple in time as a new generation embraces the digital distribution model.

Ah. Figures money had something to do with it.

[Tawney Bomb]

As long as Rucka keeps writing Punisher, they can burn everything else to the ground as far as I'm concerned.

[JJD]

Frank Cho on Wolverine??? Fuck no!!!

Let Cullen do his work Marvel...God dammit...

[sca2511]

damn, more titles to get into.

[The Take Out Bandit]

Frank Cho on Wolverine??? Fuck no!!! Let Cullen do his work Marvel...God dammit...

Come on, he can turn it into an unfunny animal book like Liberty Meadows! Oh that wacky sexist pig cartoon animal!

[~Devil Trigger~]

can anybody draw R. Raccoon properly

always looks weird

[Gr1mLock]

can anybody draw R. Raccoon properly always looks weird

=)

[~Devil Trigger~]

^yep

rephrasing...

can any comicbook artist draw RR properly

[Slayven]

=)

[Anticitizen One]

I think the reason everyone is wearing power armor now is because business people saw the box office ticket sales of the Iron Man films and noticed that Gears of War and Halo are two of the hottest game franchises so now every character has to be armored up. Thats why Superman and Hulk now look like there ready to enlist in the space marines and kill some locusts.

[BenjaminBirdie]

Remember when Quesada stepped in and everything was right for a little while? Someone else needs to step in and make things right for a while.

Hickman, Aaron, Fraction, Parker, and Remender are doing that right now. No need.

[ReiGun]

I think the reason everyone is wearing power armor now is because business people saw the box office ticket sales of the Iron Man films and noticed that Gears of War and Halo are two of the hottest game franchises so now every character has to be armored up. Thats why Superman and Hulk now look like there ready to enlist in the space marines and kill some locusts.

Nah. Too much hair.

[SalsaShark]

I feel pretty alright about this, sans some of the redesigns.

[Anticitizen One]

didn't Marvel just do a relaunch like this like a year ago? YUP:

[krypt0nian]

Hickman, Aaron, Fraction, Parker, and Remender are doing that right now. No need.

Replace The Terrible Fraction with Gillen and you're on to something.

[The Take Out Bandit]

Replace The Terrible Fraction with Gillen and you're on to something.

Gillen needs a hip pen name and cool frames.

How about. . . Kieron Glide?!

[Zabka]

I can't follow the big two anymore. The New 52 was a good jumping off point for me.

These redesigns are just terrible, especially Thor and Nova. They finally had good costumes and now...crapola

[Nils]

didn't Marvel just do a relaunch like this like a year ago? YUP:

I don't see any problem with that. Marvel has tons of these status quo shake ups but never throws continuity out the window, One More Day aside maybe. The new status quo is always a result of an event or overarching universe story that builds towards it. I vastly prefer this to DC doing a complete reboot that clearly didn't and maybe even still doesn't have a fleshed out game plan. The George Perez stuff was really telling. I was slowly starting to read more and more DC titles but the New 52 completely killed that momentum for me.

[Gr1mLock]

That's how he's always been. Glass jaw bitch. :D

=(

Eternal whipping boy.

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

didn't Marvel just do a relaunch like this like a year ago? YUP:

is it wrong that these costumes are already making me nostalgic

[Black_Stride]

I think the reason everyone is wearing power armor now is because business people saw the box office ticket sales of the Iron Man films and noticed that Gears of War and Halo are two of the hottest game franchises so now every character has to be armored up.

Haha your rational is funny.

Supermans suit is a krytonian ceremonial armor and he wears it in memory of kryton, it makes a lot more sense than his original suit.
THe rest of the new 52 arent actually wearing armor, the seams you are seeing are ummm seams where sections of material meet....it just kinda looks armored cuz comic readers arent used to seeing seams in costumes, its supposed to be more realistic.

Hulks "armor" is just retarded and im curious how they are gonna explain it, I take it they arent completely rebooting so that means Hulk is still going through stay angry right?
Im guessing banner made it since banner has been dressing hulk is more appropriate clothes recently....but armor?...Why would he care when he knows how indestructible hulk is?

the space marines and kill some locusts.

I am insulted, surely you mean kill the mutant, the heretic, the unclean

[Htown]

I really like marvel cosmic but I hate goofy characters like Rocket Raccoon and Pip the Troll. Bring back a real cosmic character like Adam Warlock and drop the talking dog. Is that a controversial opinion?

GET OUT.

[Escape Goat]

Rocket Raccoon is a total Green Lantern character. Fo sho.

[Spike Spiegel]

Maybe Hulk's "armor" isn't armor at all... maybe it's some sort of restraint system that Banner or Stark or whomever designed, the purpose of which will become clear when we get more information.


And there's nothing wrong with "my mom made it for me." >:|

[LuCkymoON]

at least Greg Land will have 3 movies to copy from where Iron Man has a lot of screen time.

[Rafa=FedKilla]

The artist on the creative teams mean nothing, they will last issues at most. Still waiting for Zeb Wells and Joe Mad to return to Avenging Spiderman.


Why haven't they announced an Alpha series yet?

[Father_Brain]

didn't Marvel just do a relaunch like this like a year ago? YUP:

That was over two years ago, actually.

[gketter]

As long as Rucka keeps writing Punisher, they can burn everything else to the ground as far as I'm concerned.

Even though Rucka is pulling his usual (write a female MC or if not create a female character to throw in) bit that he always does, his take on Frank is amazing. So quiet, intimidating and efficient. Love Rucka in Anything he does.

[kswiston]

That was over two years ago, actually.

Also, those status quo shake-ups are usually just marketing fluff. They can rename the books 20 times, but Bendis Avengers is still Bendis Avengers. Same with Brubaker cap, Fraction Iron Man, Hickman Fantastic Four, etc. This seems to be a major creative shake up. Probably the biggest shake up since the early 2000s.

[gketter]

Also, those status quo shake-ups are usually just marketing fluff. They can rename the books 20 times, but Bendis Avengers is still Bendis Avengers. Same with Brubaker cap, Fraction Iron Man, Hickman Fantastic Four, etc. This seems to be a major creative shake up. Probably the biggest shake up since the early 2000s.

I'd say ten xmen split was a decent shake up. Then 4 months later AvX showed up to shake it up MORE. Marvel never gives their new status quos enough time to breath.

[crimsonspider89]

Not excited about

Bendis books
And supposed Loeb Nova
Fraction Four

ENTHRALLED WITH:

Hickman's view of Avengers
UNCANNY AVENGERS

And maybe on Hulk AGENTS OF SMASH and Gillen's IM.