[IceCold]

Boogie has been effectively snowed by Dani/Brit regarding Frank. It's quite hilarious that he's in the dark about this. He can usually pick up on BS pretty quickly from what I can remember

I think Boogie is getting to cocky this time that's why. Maybe Frank leaving will bring him down a couple of notches.

edit:

Frank is sealing his faith right now. Dan is just chilling, and he's spilling everything to him. How Boogie wanted to backdoor Shane last week, how he thinks he can beat anyone in F2 except for Shane, etc.

[WesternHeretic]

Wil is playing both Frank and Janielle at the same time? God damn... Seems that he hasn't taken into calculation that the coaches could come back in. Even Ashley ponder the idea. Looks like Boogie is giving up on Ian. Yet Wil and Shane seemed so worried about Ian being a threat.

Danielle so crazy...

Danielle and Dan sits in a room... talks about Shane. = Shane walks in.
Danielle, Dan and Shane sits in a room... talks about Brit = Brit walks in.
Danielle, Dan, Shane, and Brit sit in a room talk about Ashley = Ashley stops by.

Woah...

[UberTag]

Just when you think things won't change...

So yeah, Janelle is going to escape this week with 3 players and Frank gone but she's forfeited the last bit of credibility she had remaining in the house in the process. Plus, most of her team is going to abandon her as soon as the twist hits the fan. Which means she may just be left working with Boogie and Ashley but will probably maintain the guise of working with Britney & Dan still until she takes the first shot at Shane.

Britney, Dan, Shane and Danielle all compared notes on Janelle and Ashley tonight and the end result wasn't pretty for Janie.

We're now legit looking at a 4 vs. 3 vs. 3 vs. 1 scenario for Thursday... which remains variable depending on what Joe, Wil, Ian and Jenn all decide to do once they're freed from the shackles of their respective coaches.

There's a caveat to all of this, however. Dan is likely going to be working all THREE sides and is going to be in good with all parties on Thursday. At some point he will find a way to sacrifice Shane to break Danielle free from his influence and will probably try to bring her, Janelle and some combination of Ashley/Jenn/Britney with him to a Final 2 showdown against the jury where he would win against all parties.

NIGHT 19 - Janelle's Lies Catch Up to Her




Nights 17-18 - Veteran Threat 1A Goes Down! 1 Down, 1 To Go
Night 16 - The Three Amigos
Night 15 - Shane Cuts His Puppet Strings
Night 14 - Grodriggage
Nights 10-13 - Boogie Overplays His Hand
Night 9 - Season 14 Self-Destruction
Day 9 - Boogie Cementing His Legacy
Nights 7-8 - Ashley's Free Will vs. Allison Grodner
Night 6 - Willie Hantz vs. Mike "Boogie" Malin
Day 6 - Willie Hantz vs. Paranoia
Night 5 - Willie Hantz vs. Janelle
Nights 2-4 - Janelle vs. Every Guy in the House That Isn't Wil
Night 1 - Janelle vs. Boogie

TEAM SHOWMANCE between a DELUSIONAL SELF-ABSORBED SOUTHERN GIRL & A GAY/BI-SEXUAL/CONFUSED/TOM CRUISE KIND OF GUY

Britney
Dan
Danielle
Shane - no longer definitely getting screwed next week (good for him)
POST-TWIST: Will try to pull in Wil

TEAM CHAOS

Ashley (aka 'Trixie')
Janelle (aka 'Pixie')
Joe the Troll
POST-TWIST: Will invent a ton of lies; Joe may bolt; Janelle will attempt a comp run; may align with Boogie

TEAM "WE HAVE NO CLUE WHAT GOES ON IN THIS HOUSE"

Boogie
Ian
Jenn
Ted the Bear
POST-TWIST: Boogie will attempt to team up with the remnants of Janelle's team (which may just be Ashley at that point) to take down Shane & Dan; Jenn may bolt or may float along with Ian

FREE AGENT

Wil

TOAST

Veteran Threat 1A - Frank (Evicted by a Vote of 3-2)

MOST LIKELY TO WIN BIG BROTHER 14

1. Dan
2. Shane
3. Britney
4. Janelle

# of Days Remaining Until the Jury = 16

[WesternHeretic]

Haha.. What the hell.


Looks like Shane / Brit, + Danielle / Dan are pretty solid now. I like it I hope they stick together.

Ian seems to have mentally checked out of the game. He sounds like he's giving up in his talk with Dan. Dan seems to be giving him support which is rather interesting.

[cacophony]

Shane is getting pretty blunt with Dani right now that he isn't there to find a relationship, but she is hearing none of it..

[Trigger]

lol, don't give up Danielle! Like Natalie would say: if a guy says it's not going to happen he just wants you to try harder.

Haha.. What the hell. Looks like Shane / Brit, + Danielle / Dan are pretty solid now. I like it I hope they stick together. Ian seems to have mentally checked out of the game. He sounds like he's giving up in his talk with Dan. Dan seems to be giving him support which is rather interesting.

I want this alliance to stick. If they got far the final 2 would probably just be Dan/Danielle or Dan/Brit with another win for him, but they're better options than Janelle or Boogie.

[NYR]

Shane is getting pretty blunt with Dani right now that he isn't there to find a relationship, but she is hearing none of it..

Daaaaamn - he is a cold blooded solider, love it.

As for the above posts, I am STOKED -------Janelle---- is getting exposed.

Dan winning would put him up there with Dr. Will, BTW. The guy just plays mind games.

The battle begins!

[RepairmanJack]

Dan I already think is as good as Dr. Will. I just think they play mind games differently. Will is more actively trying to screw with people and his charisma allows him to do it. Where Dan acts more passively. He sits back and lets people come to him, he gets people to tell him everything while he tells people nothing. They know he does it and they still go and tell him. The dude just has some kind of jedi mind tricks that make people discuss everything with him.

[IceCold]

Haha.. What the hell. Looks like Shane / Brit, + Danielle / Dan are pretty solid now. I like it I hope they stick together. Ian seems to have mentally checked out of the game. He sounds like he's giving up in his talk with Dan. Dan seems to be giving him support which is rather interesting.

Ian was told by Boogie to do nothing because he doesn't want him to be a target if Frank leaves the house. Dan, on the other hand, will try to flip Jenn and Ian to his side after the coaches come in.

[Trigger]

Who would flip if the coaches entered the game? I'd think it would be Joe or Shane. It's hard to tell with this bunch.

[UberTag]

Who would flip if the coaches entered the game? I'd think it would be Joe or Shane. It's hard to tell with this bunch.

Wil's going to have the most proactive reaction. Main reason I've already moved him off of Team Janelle. He will NOT work with her post-twist and everyone in the house knows it. Oddly enough, even though he'll bitch he may actually be secretly happy about it because he won't feel stifled under her thumb any more.

Joe has said he won't respond well to the coaches coming into the game. I get the impression he may be one of those "all bark, no bite" types, however. He's practically been obsessed with raising his personal stature with Janelle and I really don't see any reason that would change. I could be wrong, though. Perhaps he'll emerge as the anti-coach leader/jury taint that Janelle has feared Frank would have been.

Ashley is pretty much joined at the hip with Janelle.

Both Shane and Danielle have been prepped for the twist as of last night. They both seem fine with it because it effectively levels the playing field for them with everyone else. On top of that, Danielle is an attention-seeking puppet and Shane's too dumb to register a reaction to anything until days after it happens. He's a little slow.



Ian has already checked out of the game and will simply see the twist as a defined deadline for him to achieve his goal of getting to jury. Dan has been feeling him out since Sunday night for his side alliance potential which should get Ian's vote in his back pocket but I don't see Ian going deep into this game. Depends on how far he wants to stretch his "Have Not" record.

And Jenn? Well, it's hard to tell what's going on with Jenn. I don't see her sticking with Boogie, though. I see her becoming a side alliance for Dan and Joe.

[Trigger]

Ian has already checked out of the game and will simply see the twist as a defined deadline for him to achieve his goal of getting to jury.

I can't tell if this is Uber-style comedy or something he's actually said. This says a lot about the current crop.

[RepairmanJack]

I can't tell if this is Uber-style comedy or something he's actually said. This says a lot about the current crop.

Kind of both...

[NYR]

Who would flip if the coaches entered the game? I'd think it would be Joe or Shane. It's hard to tell with this bunch.

Likely Wil, but either way, the game pretty much gets a reset, things will change, I doubt things will stay as-is, people are in forced alliances right now that don't benefit the individual, but rather, the coaches. People will hopefully see through that. There will be a couple of dimwits that stick, Ashley being the most obvious.

I want a uprising against the vets, fix the mistakes from last year...

[RepairmanJack]

I honestly could see Joe starting an uprising then running to the vets and telling them about it while he sits back and coasts by.

[Trigger]

Likely Wil, but either way, the game pretty much gets a reset, things will change, I doubt things will stay as-is, people are in forced alliances right now that don't benefit the individual, but rather, the coaches. People will hopefully see through that. There will be a couple of dimwits that stick, Ashley being the most obvious. I want a uprising against the vets, fix the mistakes from last year...

Joe would have to start campaigning against Grodner for that.

[UberTag]

I honestly could see Joe starting an uprising then running to the vets and telling them about it while he sits back and coasts by.

Just par for the course of introducing a topic of conversation with someone and then selling them out to someone else for being the ones who brought up the idea. That's Joe Lying Technique 101... as introduced in Week 1 when he proposed an alliance to Frank and Jenn and then turned the idea on its head and said they approached him.

Problem for Joe is that nobody (apart from Janelle) is going to fall for that nonsense from him anymore.

[UberTag]

HOH SCENARIOS - THE TWIST - Throw It or Go For It Scenarios

Ashley - WHO THE HELL KNOWS?
Boogie - GO FOR IT
Britney - GO FOR IT
Dan - THROW IT (as always)
Danielle - GO FOR IT
Ian - GO FOR IT
Janelle - GO FOR IT (as always)
Jenn - THROW IT
Joe - GO FOR IT
Wil - GO FOR IT

FAVORITES TO WIN

1) Boogie (will target/backdoor Shane, Janelle - possible pawn = Danielle)
2) Janelle (will target/backdoor Shane, Boogie - possible pawn = Ian)
3) Wil (will target Boogie, Ian, Janelle)

Anyone want to discuss these in further detail?

[Trigger]

I don't think Boogie is a favorite to win this HOH. He hasn't been impressive so far and seems to spend most of his time sleeping. I imagine he was more impressive on his earlier seasons. Boogie's game as a whole seems very indirect. Janelle needs the win if only to secure her grip on her alliance.

Are we still putting the twist in spoiler tags? I thought a poll or something was being done on CBS's website?

[SlowRevolution]

I think Wil has a great shot at winning this HoH, and once the coaches come into the game it could very well be the motivation he needs to finally win something, since he'll be pissed (at least at first). The smaller people this season don't really seem like they'd have the willpower/athleticism to win anything overly difficult, and big guys normally fall fast, so I think Wil's build is going to help him out a lot in endurance competitions if he puts the effort in. Janelle's a huge threat to win it, too; I'd love if it came down to those two, that could make the house pretty interesting depending on the deals made.

Just glad that things are finally changing up tomorrow. I think a lot of people have been overly critical of this season (especially compared to junk like BB13), but having so few real players remaining so early on makes it less interesting. Bring the coaches in, let them cause some drama, and then let the new houseguests overcome the rigging and get them out one after another right away (I know, not happening). Really not interested in seeing a repeat of last year.

[RepairmanJack]

FAVORITES TO WIN 1) Boogie (will target/backdoor Shane, Janelle - possible pawn = Danielle) 2) Janelle (will target/backdoor Shane, Boogie - possible pawn = Ian) 3) Wil (will target Boogie, Ian, Janelle) Anyone want to discuss these in further detail?

I honestly don't know if Boogie would target Shane right away. If Frank is suddenly out and he suspects Janelle for turning the house I think his hopes would be on getting out Janelle and possibly gaining ally's in Shane and Wil.

[UberTag]

I don't think Boogie is a favorite to win this HOH. He hasn't been impressive so far and seems to spend most of his time sleeping. I imagine he was more impressive on his earlier seasons. Boogie's game as a whole seems very indirect.

For as overhyped as Frank's comp ability has been (largely due to Janie's smear campaign), her concern about Boogie's physical skills is not misplaced.

When he isn't sleeping and ignoring what's actually going on in the house, he's been working out steadily in the backyard. He won one coach's comp in a rout and would have won the 2nd had he not jumped off the balance beam to gloat before hitting his buzzer like a fool.

He can't shake his booty as fast as a younger Janie and Dan but he's still a very legit threat... especially in endurance where Shane can't compete and Frank is evicted. Janelle has never won an endurance comp and Dan is likely to throw it. His biggest threats apart from Janelle are likely to be Britney and Wil.

Lastly, Boogie is going to be hungry to make a statement after getting blindsided with his top ally booted from the house. There's no better way to make a statement than winning HOH.

I honestly don't know if Boogie would target Shane right away. If Frank is suddenly out and he suspects Janelle for turning the house I think his hopes would be on getting out Janelle and possibly gaining ally's in Shane and Wil.

Boogie is on record that he will spend every fibre of his being going after Shane if Frank gets evicted and has been pretty much leaning that way even in the event of Frank staying since the POV ceremony.

All of the coaches will be playing pass-the-buck with the blame game for Frank's eviction (Janelle will claim self-defence, Brit will blame Ian and say her and Shane didn't have a vote and Dan will say Danielle voted against his wishes). Despite that, Boogie will feel he has very few allies he can completely trust and will need to compwhore his way through the house and targeting the guy who has won 5 out of 6 competitions is the safest way to shore up his defenses and take out a threat that everyone will be anxious about.

Just a matter of whether Boogie launches a direct attack or works the backdoor angle. I suspect he's savvy enough to roll with the latter approach unless Brit/Shane do an amazing job of keeping Mike in the dark. I suspect Boogie's nominations would be Janelle & Britney with a Shane backdoor option.

[RepairmanJack]

Boogie is on record that he will spend every fibre of his being going after Shane if Frank gets evicted and has been pretty much leaning that way even in the event of Frank staying since the POV ceremony. All of the coaches will be playing pass-the-buck with the blame game for Frank's eviction (Janelle will claim self-defence, Brit will blame Ian and say her and Shane didn't have a vote and Dan will say Danielle voted against his wishes). Despite that, Boogie will feel he has very few allies he can completely trust and will need to compwhore his way through the house and targeting the guy who has won 5 out of 6 competitions is the safest way to shore up his defenses and take out a threat that everyone will be anxious about. Just a matter of whether Boogie launches a direct attack or works the backdoor angle. I suspect he's savvy enough to roll with the latter approach unless Brit/Shane do an amazing job of keeping Mike in the dark. I suspect Boogie's nominations would be Janelle & Britney with a Shane backdoor option.

This is all before Frank goes home though. As much as Boogie may hate it he will need ally's that can win comps once Frank is gone. Plus he realizes he will be one of the biggest targets out of the coaches. All he can really do at that point is play the blame game as you said and try to paint all the other coaches as targets. He's going to have a hard time of doing that with really anyone but Brit and Shane.

I agree that right now all he is thinking about is getting out Shane, but I think once Frank is out and someone he doesn't control is HOH he will see the bigger picture and start to look for worthwhile ally's.

Edit: Joe quickly put an end to that conversation. :lol

[Trigger]

lol, so Frank going home really is that solid?

[RepairmanJack]

lol, so Frank going home really is that solid?

Unless Boogie and Frank suddenly realize they are a target and they try to really get into Wil or Dan's ear, yes. There is very little chance Frank stays at this point.

[WesternHeretic]

lol, so Frank going home really is that solid?

Yep... seems like everyone knows it but him and his team.

[UberTag]

I agree that right now all he is thinking about is getting out Shane, but I think once Frank is out and someone he doesn't control is HOH he will see the bigger picture and start to look for worthwhile ally's.

Boogie's going to think he still has Dan & Ian. (He won't have Jenn but he'll think he still has her, too.) Dan's pretty amenable to working with anyone so long as he stays out of the crosshairs so he will have an influence on his HOH decision-making.

Targeting two coaches with the initial noms (including one who is not a comp threat) after the twist unfurls also tells the newbies that there's hope for them despite being shocked on Thursday and that it won't be a repeat of last season... which may bring over Wil and Joe as numbers for the week who will have no reason to continue to trust Janie who poisoned them on Boogie in the first place. It also keeps Janelle and Britney from directly working with each other as they're both nominated and he fears Team Blonde more than anything else outside of Shane.

Lastly, once he's brokered a deal with Janelle following her nomination, he can put up Shane following the veto and rally everyone in the house against him. Even better if Brit's on the block against him, his only vote will be Danielle and he'll be an easy takedown that would appease almost anyone.

I think Shane has done about as good a job as he could have bolstering his chances with his moves the last two days but it's extremely likely he goes home next week following a Boogie HOH unless his name gets drawn to play POV.

[DMeisterJ]

I just don't see -----------Booger---------- as a sure thing to win HoH tomorrow.

[WesternHeretic]

Shane "I would have prefer Kara." Oh yea I can't wait till Danielle hears that after the show.

[Trigger]

lol, sucks for ---Frank--- if only because I think he would have lasted longer in a cast without coaches. Boogie's laziness only encourages him to relax while his ass is on the chopping block. I'm pretty sure Shane and him would run the show.

[cacophony]

Tomorrow's show isn't live

[RepairmanJack]

Boogie's going to think he still has Dan & Ian. (He won't have Jenn but he'll think he still has her, too.) Dan's pretty amenable to working with anyone so long as he stays out of the crosshairs so he will have an influence on his HOH decision-making. Targeting two coaches with the initial noms (including one who is not a comp threat) after the twist unfurls also tells the newbies that there's hope for them despite being shocked on Thursday and that it won't be a repeat of last season... which may bring over Wil and Joe as numbers for the week who will have no reason to continue to trust Janie who poisoned them on Boogie in the first place. It also keeps Janelle and Britney from directly working with each other as they're both nominated and he fears Team Blonde more than anything else outside of Shane. Lastly, once he's brokered a deal with Janelle following her nomination, he can put up Shane following the veto and rally everyone in the house against him. Even better if Brit's on the block against him, his only vote will be Danielle and he'll be an easy takedown that would appease almost anyone. I think Shane has done about as good a job as he could have bolstering his chances with his moves the last two days but it's extremely likely he goes home next week following a Boogie HOH unless his name gets drawn to play POV.

I think you are working on the assumption too much that Boogie will win HOH. Most likely the HOH is going to be endurance in some way and Boogie can't stay awake for 4 hours straight let alone stay in a comp for that long. :lol

I'm working on the assumption that Boogie doesn't win HOH, and isn't in immediate target. He still will be in a lot of ways, I just don't think he will go up immediately. Even if he does he is going to realize quickly he can't rely on Dan and Ian for comp wins. Even if he doesn't end up teaming with Shane, I think he will see the benefit in getting someone else out and keeping Shane in the house as a target.

I really don't think Shane is the all around target next week that you think he is. I think Coaches coming in will change a lot of things.

[UberTag]

I just don't see -----------Booger---------- as a sure thing to win HoH tomorrow.

Sure thing? Hardly. But a favorite to win? Definitely.
At this point, I would be shocked if anyone wins HOH tomorrow outside of Boogie, Britney, Janelle, Ashley or Wil.

[Trigger]

Tomorrow's show isn't live

Wat?


For real?

[RepairmanJack]

Tomorrow's show isn't live

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold the phone. Where is this coming from? They did this with an episode last season, can't remember which though.

[WesternHeretic]

Wat? For real?

Yea it's on Joker.

[Trigger]

I smell taaaaaaampering.

[cacophony]

Actually that update may be wrong.

What actually happened. There was an announcement and Shane asked why they would cut the feeds, and brit said Julie has to explain everything. That could just mean it will happen before the live show. That's what I get for trusting some idiot on Jokers lol

[RepairmanJack]

Actually that update may be wrong. What actually happened. There was an announcement and Shane asked why they would cut the feeds, and brit said Julie has to explain everything. That could just mean it will happen before the live show.

Oh, yeah I heard some talks about that. It seemed like it had something to do with a lockdown and maybe a curfew for the HG's.

Edit: They just said Julie has make some announcement and they are cutting something away from the show. Something about a last plea? Maybe saying the nominees have to keep their speech's short. Sounds like they are cutting out the speech's entirely?

[SlowRevolution]

To me it sounded like the speeches were getting cut out completely.

[Trigger]

Why would they do that? lol, are they just going to invalidate Shane's HOH by skipping the vote and have the coaches jump in?

[GK86]

I cant get over how big Janelle's nose is.

[RepairmanJack]

Why would they do that? lol, are they just going to invalidate Shane's HOH by skipping the vote and have the coaches jump in?

My guess is the evicted HG may somehow stay in the game. Maybe if someone stays a coach they get a player back? Not sure but I think there is going to be something to possibly keep the evicted HG and to prevent all coaches coming into the game.

[cacophony]

Ok Joe seriously cracks me up with how obnoxious he is. I'm honestly rooting for him now because everyone else is just so boring

Listening to them answer these cards with questions (on the feeds now).. it's like listening to 5th graders

[Trigger]

OH SNAP. Drag ha Shane.

[IceCold]

I have never seen someone scream as much as Joe in the DR. Dude screams so much, his entire face is red.

[UberTag]

OH SNAP. Drag ha Shane.

[Trigger]

^^^^
lol

Stop yelling Joe. I can hear you.

[KibblesBits]

Oh, he's in drag again?

What a surprise.

[cacophony]

lmao Joe

what a competitor! I can't wait to see him in the endurance tomorrow.