Mengy
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(07-06-2012, 02:13 PM)

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SimCity 4 Revival: one last hurrah before SimCity 5 next year... #1

I was reading about SimCity 5 some the other night and it got me nostalgic for SimCity 4. So I re-installed my Deluxe version of the game for the first time in a long time, downloaded the latest version of the NAM mod (it's gotten much bigger!), copied over my saved regions from my backup drive and proceeded to take a two hour tour of all the cities and regions I had built over the years. And then proceeded to tweak and improve little things amongst a few of my cities for the rest of the night. Before I knew it the time was 2 AM, lol.

I'd forgotten just how fun and addicting SimCity 4 can be. I can only hope that SimCity 5 will be as good.

In the meantime though, I've decided to return to SimCity 4 for awhile and start a brand new region from scratch. I've never truly developed any of my regions completely, they are all like half done, but this time I'm dedicating myself to do just that. I've started a new 4 x 4 large custom city region, a huge island with three rivers leading to a central lake and a few smaller islands around the perimeter. I threw in a few mountain ranges, a large crater, and some mesas in a large plateau for variety. My plan is to have three large cities along the coasts with a bunch of smaller towns scattered about, seperated by large expanses of farm land. I'm going to have a highway system connecting all of it and a very robust and complete train network. Also, seeing how it's an island with lots of water, I'm going to place lots of seaports and ferry stations too. The largest city I've ever created in SC4 has like a population of 84,000. I'm going to try my best to beat that this time.

I vow that before SimCity 5 is released I'm going to create the largest, most developed region I've ever made. It will either be a last hurrah before I move on to SC5, or it will be a fresh reminder of what SC4 was so that I can make a thorough comparison between the two next year.




If anyone else wants to reminisce about their old SimCity experiences or post pictures of cities they've made (in any version of the game) feel free.
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(07-06-2012, 02:20 PM)

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#2

I lost my original SC4 box a few years ago. But I would definitely get the Deluxe Ed. and start playing again. Such a good game. Never really made any big cities. I think around 50k is my biggest.

edit: Any good deals out there? Gog, Steam etc.?
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(07-06-2012, 02:48 PM)

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I tried the sequels, but I always felt the series peaked at 2000. I miss reticulating splines.

Of course I will try (and hopefully enjoy) 5. I need simplicity to keep me interested.
Mengy
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(07-06-2012, 03:45 PM)

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Originally Posted by MasterAJ22: View Post
I tried the sequels, but I always felt the series peaked at 2000. I miss reticulating splines.

Of course I will try (and hopefully enjoy) 5. I need simplicity to keep me interested.

I own all four versions of SimCity, but SC4 is by far my favorite. I like the added complexity and control, it makes the game more fun to me. The last time I went back to SimCity 2000 it just felt way too simple to me, kind of like playing Civ I again after having Civ 4 for so long.

My biggest fear for SC5 is that they will "dumb it down" too much and remove alot of what makes SC4 so fun for me.
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(07-06-2012, 03:54 PM)

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Originally Posted by Mengy: View Post
My biggest fear for SC5 is that they will "dumb it down" too much and remove alot of what makes SC4 so fun for me.
What I want is for them to effectively combine the best bits of Cities XL and SC4 into one awesome game. Somehow the complexity of SC4 would turn me off after a while building a city; the micro management style of gameplay I felt detracted from the design and really fun aspects, whereas Cities is a great design game but there is no challenge to anything, besides working out how to work around the games' flaws :p
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(07-06-2012, 03:54 PM)

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Originally Posted by tci: View Post
I lost my original SC4 box a few years ago. But I would definitely get the Deluxe Ed. and start playing again. Such a good game. Never really made any big cities. I think around 50k is my biggest.

edit: Any good deals out there? Gog, Steam etc.?
it will likely be under 10 bucks on steam when the summer sale comes around. It was 5 bucks i think last year.
NaturalHigh
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(07-06-2012, 03:57 PM)

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I'm pretty sure I own Sim City 4. Looks like I am going to dig for it when I get home.

I never put much time into the game. I guess it is my attention span or something but OP you made me want to play. Let's see if I stick with it.
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(07-06-2012, 04:09 PM)

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SC4 felt very much like they wanted you to build a suburbia rather than a real <b>city</b>.

I liked 2000 the most, followed by the SNES SimCity, which was very railroad/high-density oriented. Even 3k (which is the one I'm getting a hankering to play now, since I don't think 2k runs on my OS10.5 Mac) was more urban than SC4.
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(07-06-2012, 04:11 PM)

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3000 Ultimate is best SimCity.
Morokh
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(07-06-2012, 04:16 PM)

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bought Sim City 4 Deluxe from Steam last year but I have some ugly graphical glitches with it is there some mod/patch to fix that ?
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(07-06-2012, 04:28 PM)

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is the PS1 version of SimCity 2000 worth a damn?

I see they have it on the PSN, but I can't remember if it was a junk port or not.



Still play the SNES SimCity constantly. :}
Mengy
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(07-06-2012, 04:33 PM)

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Originally Posted by Morokh: View Post
bought Sim City 4 Deluxe from Steam last year but I have some ugly graphical glitches with it is there some mod/patch to fix that ?
Don't know. I installed it on Win 7 for the first time ever a couple days ago and was pleasantly surprised to have no issues whatsoever. Well, except for a tad bit of chugging in large cities. I wish this could be optimized for multi cores and modern graphics cards...
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(07-06-2012, 04:35 PM)

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With all the hubbub regarding the upcoming SC I'd reckon 4 Deluxe is still better.
brumx
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(07-06-2012, 04:39 PM)
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There use to be a trick something with increasing the pagefile memory on XP and the game would like a dream even on a full city with millions no slowdown.
WoodenLung
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(07-06-2012, 04:46 PM)

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Tried getting back into SC4 but just can't.
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(07-06-2012, 04:52 PM)

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Originally Posted by Dunan: View Post
SC4 felt very much like they wanted you to build a suburbia rather than a real <b>city</b>.
Felt like that to me for a long time too. Then, last year I bought it again and played for some time. It just clicked and my cities started growing to hunderds of thousands of people.

And then the traffic gets impossible, so you start to built a subway network costing millions and millions of dollars to the point your city is almost bankrupt. Just like real life.
Berordn
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(07-06-2012, 04:55 PM)

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Originally Posted by ClosingADoor: View Post
Felt like that to me for a long time too. Then, last year I bought it again and played for some time. It just clicked and my cities started growing to hunderds of thousands of people.

And then the traffic gets impossible, so you start to built a subway network costing millions and millions of dollars to the point your city is almost bankrupt. Just like real life.
Doesn't really help that the default traffic manager is inherently broken. Mods make it much easier to build metropolises with a decent traffic flow, but it's kind of stupid that it's never been addressed all these years.
Mengy
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(07-06-2012, 04:57 PM)

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Originally Posted by ClosingADoor: View Post
Felt like that to me for a long time too. Then, last year I bought it again and played for some time. It just clicked and my cities started growing to hunderds of thousands of people.

And then the traffic gets impossible, so you start to built a subway network costing millions and millions of dollars to the point your city is almost bankrupt. Just like real life.
I don't play with mods, except for the NAM mod. It fixes a lot of bugs with the traffic code in the game and truly does improve the cities in many good ways. I almost view it as a required mod in order to make the game work correctly.
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(07-06-2012, 05:08 PM)

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At work. Is sc4 available for Mac, on steam? Price?
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(07-06-2012, 05:18 PM)

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I always get unhappy with my city when I get to 20k. I have to sort out my mods folder
The Albatross
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(07-06-2012, 06:20 PM)

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Originally Posted by The Albatross: View Post
At work. Is sc4 available for Mac, on steam? Price?
Quoting my own post.

SC4 is not available on Steam for Mac. It is available for purchase for Mac on Amazon, non-digital, for TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS.

Fucking hell man
Mengy
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(07-06-2012, 06:39 PM)

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Originally Posted by The Albatross: View Post
Quoting my own post.

SC4 is not available on Steam for Mac. It is available for purchase for Mac on Amazon, non-digital, for TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS.

Fucking hell man
Holy crap. I wish I had a Mac version of the game to put up for $190! I've never owned a Mac, but don't they have Windows emulator software to run Win games and programs on?


Originally Posted by RS4-: View Post
I always get unhappy with my city when I get to 20k. I have to sort out my mods folder
Some of my favorite cities were the small ones I made. Little towns along rivers or bays, or a village nestled in a mountain valley, or small farm towns. Sometimes I just have fun building something intriguing and unique, rather than a towering huge metropolis.
Jockel
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(07-06-2012, 06:40 PM)

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Reinstalled it on my new notebook, tried to change the settings, fully froze the entire computer, uninstalled. :(
Too bad, I really felt like re-playing it.
Mr Swine
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(07-06-2012, 06:43 PM)

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I've probably owned at least 7-10 copies of Sim City 4 since release. Most of them I've lost when I moved to another appartment
Mengy
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(07-07-2012, 01:49 PM)

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#25

Here is a pic of the region I made from scratch, my island of MengyTopia:




I may tweak it a bit as I go along, change some of the mountains a bit and such. I got a good start on laying out the first large city last night, I'll post some pics after it develops a bit.