KaizorPenguin
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#5051

Originally Posted by Omiee: View Post
I hate all these rules. Imagine if we got to test all season long and we had no bans on tech making the cars faster.

I hate the fact that FIA is trying to limit the pinicale of motorsport. Just let them race with the fastest cars they can design.
Sadly, costs need to be lowered. I'd love for the cars to reach 2004 levels again, but it won't happen as long as the economy is this bad. And there's the environmental concerns regarding the big teams driving a billion laps a day.
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Ark
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(08-01-2012, 12:16 AM)

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#5052

Originally Posted by Omiee: View Post
I hate all these rules. Imagine if we got to test all season long and we had no bans on tech making the cars faster.

I hate the fact that FIA is trying to limit the pinicale of motorsport. Just let them race with the fastest cars they can design.
Costs would spiral way out of control and the grid would shrink to eight cars maximum.
Yenrot
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(08-01-2012, 12:21 AM)

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#5053

Originally Posted by Ark: View Post
Costs would spiral way out of control and the grid would shrink to eight cars maximum.
He wouldn't care if it meant a Vettel win every race.
brotkasten
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(08-01-2012, 01:07 AM)

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#5054

Originally Posted by Yenrot: View Post
He wouldn't care if it meant a Vettel win every race.
But Vettel wins his races with talent and love for racing alone, a better car has nothing to do with it. The engine in his car is just a dummy to meet the minimum weight. No one else on the grid can do what Vettel does. Even the current HRT would be enough for Vettel to beat the rest. *bows*
Psychotext
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(08-01-2012, 01:47 AM)

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#5055

Come on guys, do we really need 5 weeks of this shit? Baiting him is just as bad as what he does.
Yenrot
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(08-01-2012, 01:49 AM)

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#5056

Ah, I'm only fooling around, Omiee, no harm intended.
But I do think if testing was allowed the top 3 teams would spend like mad and end up miles ahead of the field. Many teams would leave including Lotus and Mercedes, neither team being massively rich. It's not 2005 anymore when mid table teams (well, those without wins anyway) like Toyota and Honda could spend hundreds of millions every year.
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Shaneus
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(08-01-2012, 04:05 AM)

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#5057

Less technology, more power. Remove all the assists and let the drivers drive an engine with wheels.
spink
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(08-01-2012, 04:10 AM)

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#5058

what assists? they've already removed TC and LC
Black_Stride
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(08-01-2012, 05:15 AM)

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#5059

Odd question.

WHo are the random chicks who stand next to drivers when they get interviewed....I never really noticed them before but for this race it spotted the girls in every interview.

Are they like PR for drivers to stop interviewers from asking shitty questions?
To me they look and behave almost like security.
AcridMeat
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(08-01-2012, 05:23 AM)

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#5060

PR, you got it right.
Shaneus
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(08-01-2012, 05:28 AM)

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#5061

Originally Posted by spink: View Post
what assists? they've already removed TC and LC
Anti-stall, steering wheels with displays on them, team radios, KERS, DRS...
Fantomex
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(08-01-2012, 08:31 AM)

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#5062

Watching SENNA, that Donnelly crash was so hard to stomach :( glad he survived and led a normal life.
brotkasten
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(08-01-2012, 10:17 AM)

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#5063

Maldonado won't go anywhere.

Quote:
Maldonado a smart driver, says Wolff

Pastor Maldonado is an intelligent driver who can make it to the top in Formula 1. That is the opinion of Toto Wolff, the former German racing driver who is now assisting Sir Frank Williams in his role as Team Principal.

Wolff is set to be Williams’ successor, having taken on the upgraded role of Executive Director at Williams Grand Prix Holdings last month. Although Maldonado has been involved in a handful of on-track incidents since his debut in F1 last year, Wolff is sure that these lurid moments can be tamed.

“Pastor is a smart guy,” Wolff tells German publication Motorsport Total. “I prefer to work with a guy who has extraordinary talent and an extraordinary base speed but who needs to smoothen that out, rather than the other way round.

...
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...er-says-wolff/
NHale
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(08-01-2012, 01:31 PM)

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#5064

Originally Posted by brotkasten: View Post
Venezuelan government money won't go anywhere.
Fixed.
pants
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(08-01-2012, 03:49 PM)

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#5065

Quote:
Maldomoney makes us rich, says Wolff
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Yenrot
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(08-01-2012, 03:51 PM)

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#5066

Quote:
Maldonado is batshit insane and so am I, says Wolff
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mblitek
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(08-01-2012, 05:43 PM)

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#5067

Originally Posted by brotkasten: View Post
Okay I understand the double DRS but no mid season testing!? Bullsh!te, I say! How are newcomers ever going to get a chance?

I think this is a result from the disagreement between the teams on a testing location this year. As some teams tested at Silverstone (I think it was Marussia, Williams and HRT or Caterham) and the other teams tested at Mugello.
brotkasten
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(08-01-2012, 05:48 PM)

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#5068

Originally Posted by mblitek: View Post
Okay I understand the double DRS but no mid season testing!? Bullsh!te, I say! How are newcomers ever going to get a chance?

I think this is a result from the disagreement between the teams on a testing location this year. As some teams tested at Silverstone (I think it was Marussia, Williams and HRT or Caterham) and the other teams tested at Mugello.
The mid-season test at Mugello was for all teams. What you're thinking of is the young drivers test.
moojito
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(08-01-2012, 07:36 PM)

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#5069

I reckon there should be one single rule for f1: your car (or its driver cell) must be able to survive a crash at your car's top speed, from any angle. Aside from that, design whatever the hell you want, spend however much you want.

That'd be pretty awesome!
Reven
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(08-01-2012, 09:21 PM)

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#5070

Originally Posted by NHale: View Post
Fixed.
+1
paskowitz
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(08-02-2012, 12:07 AM)

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#5071

Nando's HOME sim rig...



I wonder what the one at Ferrari is like...
Psychotext
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(08-02-2012, 12:21 AM)

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#5072

Originally Posted by paskowitz: View Post
I wonder what the one at Ferrari is like...
So does Massa.
paskowitz
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(08-02-2012, 12:23 AM)

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#5073

Originally Posted by Psychotext: View Post
So does Massa.
Ice cold.
Edmond Dantès
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(08-02-2012, 12:24 AM)

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#5074

Originally Posted by paskowitz: View Post
Nando's HOME sim rig...



I wonder what the one at Ferrari is like...
Seems like a pretty decent gym, although it pales in comparison to a certain Mark Walhberg's gym.

DBT85
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(08-02-2012, 12:25 AM)

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#5075

That looks more like a weights machine tied into the specific movements required in a car than a simulator.


The proper simulators have huge screens that wrap around to fill the drivers vision. If Fernando has a simulator I can't imagine it would be pressed up against a wall in his gym.
Shaneus
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(08-02-2012, 02:10 AM)

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#5076

Originally Posted by DBT85: View Post
That looks more like a weights machine tied into the specific movements required in a car than a simulator.


The proper simulators have huge screens that wrap around to fill the drivers vision. If Fernando has a simulator I can't imagine it would be pressed up against a wall in his gym.
Yeah, like the ones in all the RBR track previews w/ Webs and Vettel.
h3ro
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(08-02-2012, 03:04 AM)

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#5077

Originally Posted by paskowitz: View Post
Nando's HOME sim rig...



I wonder what the one at Ferrari is like...
That's a workout machine, not sim rig. The steering wheel, pedals and even neck can be set up to have weighted movements to simulate stresses and workout those parts.
Psychotext
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(08-02-2012, 03:30 AM)

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#5078

All I can think of is that he's about to go "BRRRRRMMMMMMMM NEEEEOOOOWWWWWNNN BEEP BEEP". :D
AcridMeat
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(08-02-2012, 04:09 AM)

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#5079

Originally Posted by paskowitz: View Post
Nando's HOME sim rig...



I wonder what the one at Ferrari is like...
What's the lever simulate on his right? Surely not a shortshift?
DBT85
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(08-02-2012, 04:16 AM)

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#5080

Originally Posted by AcridMeat: View Post
What's the lever simulate on his right? Surely not a shortshift?
Most of them have a lever of some kind, most use it to shift the brake bias from setting 1 to setting 2 IIRC. Often see MSC use it. Can see him doing it in his Monaco Pole lap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-QdCMkd0lA
G-Unit
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(08-02-2012, 04:22 AM)

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#5081

Dat ass
AcridMeat
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(08-02-2012, 04:32 AM)

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#5082

Originally Posted by DBT85: View Post
Most of them have a lever of some kind, most use it to shift the brake bias from setting 1 to setting 2 IIRC. Often see MSC use it. Can see him doing it in his Monaco Pole lap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-QdCMkd0lA
Ah okay I see.
Fantomex
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(08-02-2012, 07:01 AM)

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#5083

Originally Posted by DBT85: View Post
Most of them have a lever of some kind, most use it to shift the brake bias from setting 1 to setting 2 IIRC. Often see MSC use it. Can see him doing it in his Monaco Pole lap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-QdCMkd0lA
The presenter is a beaut.
Dilly
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(08-02-2012, 08:45 AM)

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#5084

Originally Posted by paskowitz: View Post
Nando's HOME sim rig...



I wonder what the one at Ferrari is like...
I wonder if he's making engine sounds while training.
brotkasten
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(08-02-2012, 08:47 AM)

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#5085

Originally Posted by Fantomex: View Post
The presenter is a beaut.
Sky's best asset.
Originally Posted by Dilly: View Post
I wonder if he's making engine sounds while training.
Hahaha, I was imagining the same. Sitting in that machine, making engine noises, imagining a whole race. I'd definitely do that.
AcridMeat
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(08-02-2012, 09:23 AM)

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#5086

Originally Posted by Dilly: View Post
I wonder if he's making engine sounds while training.
Especially in that Spanish accent. Engine notes must sound ridiculous with the rolling Rs.
Edmond Dantès
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(08-02-2012, 10:14 AM)

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Originally Posted by AcridMeat: View Post
Especially in that Spanish accent. Engine notes must sound ridiculous with the rolling Rs.
Kamui is the master of engine noises.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vYV3tZFy3Y
brotkasten
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(08-02-2012, 10:55 AM)

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#5088

Perez is pushing Ferrari for a decision.

Quote:
“It's been a very busy season so far, but the moment will soon come for me to think about my future,” he told the British media. “If there is an opportunity with them, or another team, then it's time to know. I will have to see what the options are and from that I will decide.

“I think I have done a very good job this season; I have proven I have the speed and the consistency as well…yes, I've been a bit up and down, but many things have to be taken into account and we cannot forget we're still a midfield team.

“I will decide very soon what my future is going to be.”
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...about-ferrari/
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Psychotext
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(08-02-2012, 12:16 PM)

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#5089

Originally Posted by brotkasten: View Post
Sky's best asset.
Ugh... really? She's completely clueless. Most of the time she stands there like a nodding dog.

Eyecandy and nothing else. It's pathetic.
Dilly
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(08-02-2012, 12:19 PM)

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#5090

Hey, they all can't be McKenzie's.
Yenrot
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(08-02-2012, 12:27 PM)

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#5091

Originally Posted by Psychotext: View Post
Ugh... really? She's completely clueless. Most of the time she stands there like a nodding dog.

Eyecandy and nothing else. It's pathetic.
Yes, she doesn't actually add anything to the coverage at all. The Skypad stuff is pointless, why can't we just hear McNish's voice while watching direct feed of a lap, rather than watch the two of them awkwardly stand in front of the screen?
acm2000
(08-02-2012, 01:22 PM)
#5092

oi bernie, how do you like them apples?



total lost so far, halfway through the season: 10.4m

sauce
Dilly
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(08-02-2012, 01:34 PM)

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http://www.formula1.com/news/intervi...2/8/13672.html
Interview with De La Rosa.

Quote:
But what motivates us every day is that we see that we’re improving and we believe that we won’t be at the back for long.
I'm all for optimism, but this is like me claiming that I'm going to be a rocket scientist next year.
Ark
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(08-02-2012, 01:36 PM)

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#5094

Originally Posted by acm2000: View Post
oi bernie, how do you like them apples?
Bernie doesn't care, Sky is paying more for the license rights.

Originally Posted by Dilly: View Post
I'm all for optimism, but this is like me claiming that I'm going to be a rocket scientist next year.
To be fair, there could be some decent funding for HRT next year when they have their all Spanish set up.
Deadman
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(08-02-2012, 01:37 PM)

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#5095

Surprised hungary was only -0.4, thought the olympics would have murdered it.
acm2000
(08-02-2012, 02:05 PM)
#5096

Originally Posted by Ark: View Post
Bernie doesn't care, Sky is paying more for the license rights.



To be fair, there could be some decent funding for HRT next year when they have their all Spanish set up.
oh he will care when advertisers/teams start kicking up a fuss, the figures are only gonna get worse as people give up following the sport (as is happening already)
Dilly
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(08-02-2012, 02:42 PM)

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Originally Posted by Ark: View Post
Bernie doesn't care, Sky is paying more for the license rights.



To be fair, there could be some decent funding for HRT next year when they have their all Spanish set up.
Meh, it takes so much more to progress to the middle field, especially with the basecar they have this year.
brotkasten
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(08-02-2012, 02:44 PM)

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Dr. Helmut Marko is probably one of my favorite guys in F1. Such a sympathetic guy.

Quote:

Ferrari denies having a manually-adjusted ride-height system like Red Bull

...

Red Bull's motorsport advisor Helmut Marko has not only denied his team ever made changes to its car's set-up by hand - but he has also questioned why his team aroused suspicion because he claimed Ferrari had run an identical design.

Speaking to Auto Motor Und Sport, Marko said: "We have never adjusted anything by hand. I don't know why the others are upset – we know Ferrari has used something like that for a year."

But Ferrari says Marko's claims are incorrect – and that the outfit has never run anything like that.

"This is completely untrue," a team spokesman told AUTOSPORT in reference to Marko's comments.

When asked for a response to Red Bull's suggestions that it broke the rules, the Ferrari spokesman added: "Did they really accuse us of cheating? Are you sure? Anyway, we have all the confidence in the FIA's role to make sure all the regulations are fully respected."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101690

And McLaren might bring their own double DRS to the coming races.

Quote:
McLaren still evaluating introducing double DRS later this season

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Sporting director Sam Michael told AUTOSPORT that McLaren was being mindful about where best to focus its resources – but that double DRS was on the list of developments it could introduce over the remainder of the year.

"It's not like the Lotus one, but we have got a system like that," he explained. "As for the chances of us bringing it, I don't know yet.

"We will look at all the programmes and see if it is feasible, because it requires work and it detracts from normal upgrades as well. So it is quite difficult to make the system work, as Lotus are discovering.

"But like anything in the pit lane, if we see a new idea then the guys jump on it, they analyse it and, if we decide that it will be a benefit to the team, then we will bring it."

F1 teams have agreed to a number of regulation changes for 2013 that will effectively ban teams from pursuing double DRS, which means any work done on it this year will not be carried over for next year.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101689

The fact that it's already banned for the next season, doesn't seem to make it feasible to introduce it this late in the season. I think it was Ferrari who said that they rather work on normal upgrades than making such significant changes to the chassis.
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NHale
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#5099

Originally Posted by brotkasten: View Post
Dr. Helmut Marko is probably one of my favorite guys in F1. Such a sympathetic guy.
Someone is nervous. I guess that engine mapping was important after all...
Yoritomo
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#5100

Originally Posted by KaizorPenguin: View Post
Sadly, costs need to be lowered. I'd love for the cars to reach 2004 levels again, but it won't happen as long as the economy is this bad. And there's the environmental concerns regarding the big teams driving a billion laps a day.
The Fuel usage used in transporting the teams and equipment, not to mention the transportation of the fans to the venue itself dwarfs any amount of running the teams could possibly do. The biggest environmental impact of Formula 1 is the transportation cost.
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