[earvcunanan]

http://silenthillcommunity.com/viewt...87782#p7587782

No word on when the patch for the 360 version will go up.

Patch available on PSN: • Improved Framerate • Voice Synch is greatly improved • Missing sounds have been fixed • Missing music has been addressed • Fog density issues are resolved • Other minor visual/audio improvements

The patch is 348MB according to GAF user Somnium986

[Reiko]

Hopefully I won't have to see this anymore.

[Danny-Boy]

woohooo!!! I'm glad I kept my copy.

[strafer]

It's a disgrace that it will take a patch to make the game playable.

[Bumhead]

Be interested to know how this fixes things. I did intend on buying this but the feedback put me well off.

[B_Rik_Schitthaus]

Complete recall, new version done from scratch by a competent dev.

Anything else is a plaster over a decapitation.

[AkimbO_Arcana]

Hopefully I won't have to see this anymore.

Is this a comparison between PS2 (left) and HD version (right)? If yes, holy fuck Konami.

[Canis lupus]

Hopefully I won't have to see this anymore.

What the hell where they thinking.

[IrishNinja]

i'm gonna need more impressions here when it's out - i gave away my copies of 2 & 3 here on GAF a while back and was really disappointed by the mess this turned into, would very much like to confirm the OP's details, as that sounds like it covers most of the bases.

[Jawmuncher]

I really don't like how this finally became more than playable because of a patch.
I'm still unsure if I should even bother buying it, might be better off buying them off amazon for PS2 and emulating them on PC, or hell just playing the PC versions (SH3 and 2 were on PC right?)

[Jader7777]

Is this a comparison between PS2 (left) and HD version (right)?

The one with the edge of the map exposed? That's the 'HD' version, it didn't have some fog effects (amongst other things) so instead of getting an errie lake edge you get what looks bad unfinished level design.

There also was some frame rate issues, sound delay, input issues, soft body physics were screwy so peoples mouths were in their eyes, they changed the (flawless) voice acting to some generic hollywood voice acting.

Pretty much sold all the fans a lemon and did a major discredit to one of the greatest games ever made.

Tomm Hulet is very professional *picks nose*.

[Rickenslacker]

Is this a comparison between PS2 (left) and HD version (right)? If yes, holy fuck Konami.

No, the other way around. The heavy fog is how the game should look, on the left you can see the edge cutoff of the environment.

[AkimbO_Arcana]

Yes. The 'HD' version didn't have some fog effects (amongst other things) so instead of getting an errie lake edge you get what looks bad unfinished level design. There also was some frame rate issues, sound delay, input issues, soft body physics were screwy so peoples mouths were in their eyes, they changed the (flawless) voice acting to some generic hollywood voice acting. Pretty much sold all the fans a lemon and did a major discredit to one of the greatest games ever made. Tomm Hulet is very professional *picks nose*.

ok, thanks for clearing that up. The pic is so small that I don't see what version looks "better", the right one's just foggier.

[Cisce]

It's mainly to blame on the fact that a developer that had very little experience with porting games were given beta versions of two classics, had to port them over to two consoles along with trying to fix all of the bugs too. The absolutely disappointing generic new voice acting doesn't help either.

If only we could get a patch to bring back the old voices for Silent Hill 3, at least now I can actually start my SH3 playthrough now knowing that the framerate issues are gone.

[Ostinatto]

the patch fix this??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJIMSCJf9g&t=1m43s

[Jucksalbe]

Looking forward to impressions. If this fixes some of the issues I might buy the collection after all.

[B_Rik_Schitthaus]

ok, thanks for clearing that up. The pic is so small that I don't see what version looks "better", the right one's just foggier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58n-Gg1GrE4&feature=plcp

Lots of other vids on the subject by the same channel.

[Reiko]

the patch fix this?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJIMSCJf9g&t=1m43s

Shameful.

[Jubern]

Looking forward to impressions. If this fixes some of the issues I might buy the collection after all.

Same here, I'm on the fence for this.

[Recall]

the patch fix this?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJIMSCJf9g&t=1m43s

Holy fuck that is horrendous. I never knew the issues were that bad, makes the game look totally unfinished.

[magawolaz]

the patch fix this?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJIMSCJf9g&t=1m43s

...I don't even..

[MoonsaultSlayer]

On top of the technical issues, fix the fog and water in 2 and the color palette and lighting in 3 and I'll make a purchase.

[strafer]

the patch fix this?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJIMSCJf9g&t=1m43s

oh jesus christ

how can they allow such a thing.

[kurahador]

the patch fix this?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJIMSCJf9g&t=1m43s

What the fuck?

[Secret Fawful]

the patch fix this?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJIMSCJf9g&t=1m43s

[Jader7777]

I would suggest not even buying the game.

Don't pay for lazy, bad ports. You'll only encourage more of them by effectively voting with your wallet.

HINT: The PC version already plays at 720p, the highest resolution the textures can be viewed efficiently in and doesn't involve patches or broken dreams.

[Carbonox_Ratchet]

the patch fix this?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJIMSCJf9g&t=1m43s

Ahahahaahhha my word.

[Jucksalbe]

Don't pay for lazy, bad ports. You'll only encourage more of them by effectively voting with your wallet.

Considering the amount of work they had to put into the patches, I don't think this serves as encouragement for any developer.
At least they still try to do something about this, Ubisoft never cared about the faults in the PoP collection.

[Fried Food]

Hope the patch comes out on 360. I've been holding off on playing my copy.

[Jader7777]

Rumour has it they simply shipped a beta build of the game. I would like to confirm this some how but I'm pretty sure the derps who currently run the Silent Hill franchise would like to keep it as an elusive mystery.

[sublimit]

I would assume everyone has sold their copies by now.

[Morue]

the patch fix this?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJIMSCJf9g&t=1m43s

God!! I didn't think it was that awful!!

[Jawmuncher]

Rumour has it they simply shipped a beta build of the game. I would like to confirm this some how but I'm pretty sure the derps who currently run the Silent Hill franchise would like to keep it as an elusive mystery.

I recall a beta build was apparently all they had to work with.
I'm not big into how development work, but I would have though at least having the original games on discs would be a way to help with getting a better build of the game.

Anyway stuff like this is what really has me worried about these consoles when they can finally be considered "retro". Unlike a PC where a update for a game can exist online YEARS after it's release.

As soon as PSN or XBL say, were done hosting this stuff it's just gone forever no way to even download it and burn it to a disc like you can with the system updates.

While I don't play much on the PC, it's definetley the most friendly platform when it comes to playing older games.

[Reiko]

Rumour has it they simply shipped a beta build of the game. I would like to confirm this some how but I'm pretty sure the derps who currently run the Silent Hill franchise would like to keep it as an elusive mystery.

I'm still trying to figure out how Konami has one of the greatest HD Remasters ever made (MGS HD Collection) and the worst HD Remaster ever (Silent Hill HD Collection) under their belt. It just boggles the mind.

[Meisadragon]

Rumour has it they simply shipped a beta build of the game. I would like to confirm this some how but I'm pretty sure the derps who currently run the Silent Hill franchise would like to keep it as an elusive mystery.

It's not a rumour actually, the developers who ported this said that they had to work with an unfinished build because *gasp* Konami had lost the original source code. So what happened is, these guys had to do all the bug fixing again that the original devs had already fixed before shipping it.

http://www.1up.com/features/the-prob...h-preservation

[Morue]

Doing this to a masterpiece like Silent hill 2 is a crime... Glad I still have my ps2 copy...

[Jader7777]

Man. It's like the Mona Lisa in the Louvre

"Sorry dude bro, we lost the original or something here's a poster though."

brb head needs to go in cold water.

[Sblargh]

Does the patch makes it playable now? I never played these games and was put off by people telling me to not experience it for the first time on this format.
The patch change this?

[Reiko]

Man. It's like the Mona Lisa in the Louvre "Sorry dude bro, we lost the original or something here's a poster though." brb head needs to go in cold water.

They have no excuse.

According to company president Andy O'Neil, Bluepoint reverse engineers the games, rather than collecting the original source files and recompiling. "The problem with source asset drops is that you don't know if it's the final shipped data," O'Neil said. "People will go and make last-minute changes."

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/23/bl...of-war-remake/

BAM. Now you know why the MGS Collection was so good.

[Audioboxer]

WE NEED NEW COMPARISONS!

[Jay-B]

I'm still trying to figure out how Konami has one of the greatest HD Remasters ever made (MGS HD Collection) and the worst HD Remaster ever (Silent Hill HD Collection) under their belt. It just boggles the mind.

One was done by Bluepoint, the other by Hijinx.

[AkimbO_Arcana]

It's not a rumour actually, the developers who ported this said that they had to work with an unfinished build because *gasp* Konami had lost the original source code. So what happened is, these guys had to do all the bug fixing again that the original devs had already fixed before shipping it. http://www.1up.com/features/the-prob...h-preservation

How? Why?

[toddhunter]

• Fog density issues are resolved

[AkIRA_22]

the patch fix this?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJIMSCJf9g&t=1m43s

Kill it with fire. That is up there with Superman 64

[How About No]

Fog density issues are resolved

You can now see even farther off the edge of the map.

[LestradeTGQ]

I patched the game; the frame rate definitely seems improved. No more underwater running when outdoors.

The fog, though, doesn't look much different to me. That clear fog wall is still apparent, and when you come upon the first lying figure in the game (the "shadow"), it's still obvious what it is — it's not as occluded as in the original.

I didn't play as far as the Maria meeting to see how it compares. I'd need to see some side-by-side images to really tell.

[Reiko]

I patched the game; the frame rate definitely seems improved. No more underwater running when outdoors. The fog, though, doesn't look much different to me. That clear fog wall is still apparent, and when you come upon the first lying figure in the game (the "shadow"), it's still obvious what it is — it's not as occluded as in the original. I didn't play as far as the Maria meeting to see how it compares. I'd need to see some side-by-side images to really tell.

Sigh

Any Silent Hill 3 impressions?

[gamergirly]

the patch fix this?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJIMSCJf9g&t=1m43s

Lol....morning laughs

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

Did they seriously not detail the entire patch? They were given a laundry list of problems to fix. The least they could do is give us a detailed list if what they DID fix, if not everything.

[The_Monk]

I will wait for true and kind GAF impressions to see if the problem was really fixed.

Downpour was also needing a patch, right?