Zeus Molecules
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(08-21-2012, 06:34 AM)

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idk how a laker fan is making this bet but hey lets go
Khalifa Jayy
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(08-21-2012, 07:05 AM)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFEnNB4aSRs

Damn, I think I found the best Kobe video ever.

"81 points you should try it" lol
linsivvi
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(08-21-2012, 07:24 AM)

Moris wins this thread.
CB3
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(08-21-2012, 07:25 AM)

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Phee Phee I found you a new avatar.

Looks like a similar picture phee posted in another thread earlier....
linsivvi
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(08-21-2012, 07:30 AM)

An Evangelistic Event Featuring Jeremy Lin



LOL WTF.

Lin Tebow.
masud
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(08-21-2012, 08:00 AM)

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Originally Posted by Khalifa Jayy: View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFEnNB4aSRs

Damn, I think I found the best Kobe video ever.

"81 points you should try it" lol
"We don't run them Laker plays we just Kobe fadeaway"
LMAO
J2 Cool
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(08-21-2012, 08:13 AM)

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Pretty spot on article.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-sell-the-team
Quote:
Chicago Bulls Owner Jerry Reinsdorf Should Sell the Team

The landscape of the NBA has changed with Dwight Howard landing in LA with the Lakers and the Philadelphia 76ers getting the consolation prize in Andrew Bynum. The Chicago Bulls ended up with Kirk Hinrich. Can somebody tell me what's wrong with this picture?

Going into last season, the Bulls were thought to be championship contenders by most observers. Now those same observers are saying they're at least two years away.

How did that happen? Let's start at the top.

Jerry Reinsdorf bought the team in 1985, the year after Michael Jordan landed in Chicago. If ever a fortuitous opportunity fell into someone's lap—that was it.

You could also say he was a smart businessman—which he is. Reinsdorf turned a $16 million investment into a brand known worldwide and today worth an estimated $600 million according to a K.C. Johnson article earlier this year in the Chicago Tribune quoting Forbes magazine.

Perhaps those same "smarts" are also why he makes for a bad owner if you are a fan of the team.

The Bulls became a phenomenon under Jordan. They regularly sold out the old Chicago Stadium, and because of him—their current facility—the United Center, became the "House That Jordan Built."

After six titles in eight years, Reinsdorf, along with then GM Jerry Krause, decided to break up the juggernaut and rebuild. That move cut costs to the extreme, along with maxing out profits for Reinsdorf and the other shareholders.

While the team was now of expansion quality, the "Rock Show" prices of the Jordan era continued.

The most surprising development occurring from that were the fans still flocking to the arena—year-after-year—despite the teams' dramatic decline.

Don't you think Reinsdorf noticed that?

Just as Chicago Cubs ownership has known since the 80's—you don't have to put a winning team on the field to draw crowds.

Why spend the money if you're already selling out anyway: Just bank the profits and fill your pockets.

Reinsdorf has learned that lesson well.

So while other teams like the Lakers don't even consider the salary cap when making moves, the Bulls always err on the side of smart business.

The Howard move put the Lakers at a payroll of $99 million for the upcoming season, but according to general manager Mitch Kupchak in an article in the Chicago Tribune co-written by Broderick Turner and Mike Bresnahan, money is not the most important consideration for them.

"When it comes down to it, Dr. (Jerry) Buss is a competitor. And when it comes down to a decision about making a couple of dollars or a million dollars or $10 million or putting another banner up, he can't help himself. He chooses to go for the banner."

Can you say the same thing about Reinsdorf? This is the owner, who after under paying Jordan for so many years when he could have ripped up his contract and given him a new one like the Lakers did for Magic Johnson and the Boston Celtics did for Larry Bird, said that one day he would "regret" signing that contract after finally paying him what he was worth.

That's for the player who made him an untold fortune. You can see where his mindset is and that's his pocketbook.

Fast forward to the present. The current luxury tax level for this year is $70,307.000. You pay $1 for every $1 you are over that amount according to ESPN.

Reinsdorf has never paid the tax. This will be the first year they go over assuming they don't make any cost-cutting moves by the trade deadline, but we're talking pennies compared to a team like the Lakers.

The Bulls remodeled the "bench mob" while doing little else to help the team moving forward. If the previous "mob" couldn't help the Bulls win a title, do you think the current version will?

You win with stars in this league other than a few abnormalities every 10 years or so.

You can say it makes no sense with Derrick Rose out for most of the season to spend the money, but you can also ask why the team didn't try for an "out of the box" move in the previous seasons, even if they had to go into that dreaded luxury tax area.

They lucked into Rose because the ping pong balls bounced their way. What would this team look like if that hadn't happened?

Bulls ownership is conservative and that flows down to management. When have John Paxson or Gar Forman taken a chance to really change the culture of this team? Other than Ben Wallace, and we all know how that turned out—never.

You can question if Reinsdorf even cares about the Bulls. His love for basketball came from watching the Red Holzman-era New York Knicks teams with Walt Frazier, Willis Reed, Bill Bradley and Dave DeBusschere.

But that doesn't compare to baseball, which is more of a religion to him.

He bought the Chicago White Sox before the Bulls in 1981, and they are his true love. In a quote from an article by Peter Gammons on ESPN.com before the Sox won the World Series in 2005, he said, "He would trade all his Bulls championship rings for one World Series ring."

Is he treating the Bulls like a red-headed step child compared to his beloved White Sox?

White Sox general manager Kenny Williams constantly comes to Reinsdorf asking him to stretch the budget without being turned down. Williams has that burning desire to win, and maybe Reinsdorf does too.

Just not for the Bulls.

Don't Bulls fans deserve better?
Despite being one of the biggest basketball markets, the Bulls have never shown to be a real player in trades, signings, payroll, etc. Ever. Teams like the Lakers, Celtics, Heat, Mavericks have shown all the urgency over the last decade. The Knicks at least seem upset about their predicament. The Bulls just seem content.

It's weird that a team that gets to the edge of serious contention (2008-2009, 2011-2012), just drops back off without ever making that final push. Leaving its fans always hoping for good health, and the stars to perfectly align, instead of making them.
Last edited by J2 Cool; 08-21-2012 at 08:16 AM.
masud
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(08-21-2012, 09:45 AM)

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Originally Posted by linsivvi: View Post
Moris wins this thread.
Until he's rocking a naked Amare avatar for a year. Do Yall ever learn?
h3ro
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(08-21-2012, 11:24 AM)

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For completion's sake...



I couldn't care less about the nets outside of nights the knicks play them. The teams in the East after Miami and maybe Boston are so evenly matched that a 4th seed for the knicks isn't out the realm of possibilities, but so is struggling for the 7th or 8th seed.
Boombloxer
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(08-21-2012, 11:37 AM)

Originally Posted by masud: View Post
Until he's rocking a naked Amare avatar for a year. Do Yall ever learn?
Yea right. Barring injuries, that's easy money.
masud
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(08-21-2012, 12:08 PM)

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Originally Posted by Boombloxer: View Post
Yea right. Barring injuries, that's easy money.
I guess you guys don't learn. This shit happens every year. Someone gets too excited with the lol Knicks shit and makes a bet that they end up losing. "My wife is a Knick fan", dcx's deal with it avy, shirtless galllo, and i know I'm missing at least one more. Hell Dy would have been rocking a naked Amare avatar last season if I didn't forget to make it. Again, knicks age has never lost an avatar bet. Sure the Nets could end up with a better record than the Knicks but I'd say the reverse is just as likely. Never bet against a Knick fan, we have nothing to lose.
dIEHARD
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(08-21-2012, 01:19 PM)

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I stop betting against the Knicks to make the playoffs. I'm sure they have their annual 8th seed locked up.


Melo in the playoffs? those bets have worked well for me.
Flash
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(08-21-2012, 02:48 PM)

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Doesn't really make sense for chicago to make any movies this summer anyways... Rose is going to be out for (most of) the year so at this point this season is either a loss or a wasted effort. They need to tank as hard as possible and get rose some help via the draft. Then try to sign some guys to round up the roster.

You guys should be ecstatic they didn't match Asik's horrendous contract. And Hinrich signing was because they need someone at the pg.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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(08-21-2012, 02:52 PM)

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Originally Posted by Flash: View Post
Doesn't really make sense for chicago to make any movies this summer anyways... Rose is going to be out for (most of) the year so at this point this season is either a loss or a wasted effort. They need to tank as hard as possible and get rose some help via the draft. Then try to sign some guys to round up the roster.

You guys should be ecstatic they didn't match Asik's horrendous contract. And Hinrich signing was because they need someone at the pg.
Deng, Gibson, Noah isn't missing the playoffs in the East. Besides, Asik is a really good player and it's not like the Bulls will be stacked upfront once Boozer completely declines in a year or two.
Dark FaZe
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(08-21-2012, 03:07 PM)

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Originally Posted by ItWasMeantToBe19: View Post
I wonder if Anthony Davis can be great right away on defense as a rookie. Most rookies have horrible defensive impact despite their athleticism, but guys like Gibson and Asik and Rubio were great defenders from day one and massively improved their team's D. Asik and Rubio were pro players before the NBA and Gibson was a million years old when he left USC, but I still think Davis might be able to make a great impact on D. If he can, I think people are underrating the Hornets a ton...
Monty Williams is my favorite coach in the L right now, I think he's going to overachieve with that team.
Raging Spaniard
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(08-21-2012, 03:18 PM)

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So seems like I got me a new job. Small startup, iOS, etc. Pretty happy about it :D

Heres the LOL part though, the game were making? A basketball RPG

:D

Lets do dis
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SephCast
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(08-21-2012, 03:19 PM)

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Originally Posted by Flash: View Post
Doesn't really make sense for chicago to make any movies this summer anyways... Rose is going to be out for (most of) the year so at this point this season is either a loss or a wasted effort. They need to tank as hard as possible and get rose some help via the draft. Then try to sign some guys to round up the roster.

You guys should be ecstatic they didn't match Asik's horrendous contract. And Hinrich signing was because they need someone at the pg.
This offseason's decisions weren't bad for what we could do, but the problem is that we know that the Bulls' Management won't ever go for the big splash. As stated above, they never go for it. EVER. Other than trying at the 2010 class, which everyone did, the Bulls never take a stab at a big move. Everyone says they overvalue their talent. No, they just like making a steady profit.

This is also why no superstars want to come to Chicago. Agents all know that management is cheap and won't try for the big splashes to get the team to the next level. Bulls could've traded Asik last season for an SG, and instead just let him walk. They should've seen it coming. Taj Gibson is next to be lost for nothing. And they won't trade him.
DY_nasty
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(08-21-2012, 03:25 PM)

Originally Posted by Raging Spaniard: View Post
So seems like I got me a new job. Small startup, iOS, etc. Prettybhappy about it :D

Heres the LOL part though, the game were making? A basketball RPG

:D

Lets do dis
coach mode
KingGondo
(08-21-2012, 03:26 PM)

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Originally Posted by Raging Spaniard: View Post
So seems like I got me a new job. Small startup, iOS, etc. Prettybhappy about it :D

Heres the LOL part though, the game were making? A basketball RPG

:D

Lets do dis
Congrats man.

And OKC Barons had better be the default team.
DY_nasty
#partoftheproblem
(08-21-2012, 03:34 PM)

Originally Posted by ItWasMeantToBe19: View Post
I wonder if Anthony Davis can be great right away on defense as a rookie. Most rookies have horrible defensive impact despite their athleticism, but guys like Gibson and Asik and Rubio were great defenders from day one and massively improved their team's D. Asik and Rubio were pro players before the NBA and Gibson was a million years old when he left USC, but I still think Davis might be able to make a great impact on D. If he can, I think people are underrating the Hornets a ton...
When are you gonna join the Cult of Biyombo?
darkside31337
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(08-21-2012, 03:36 PM)

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Originally Posted by ItWasMeantToBe19: View Post
I wonder if Anthony Davis can be great right away on defense as a rookie. Most rookies have horrible defensive impact despite their athleticism, but guys like Gibson and Asik and Rubio were great defenders from day one and massively improved their team's D. Asik and Rubio were pro players before the NBA and Gibson was a million years old when he left USC, but I still think Davis might be able to make a great impact on D. If he can, I think people are underrating the Hornets a ton...
I agree the Hornets are going to be vastly improved this year assuming Gordon can stay healthy.
DY_nasty
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(08-21-2012, 03:44 PM)

Originally Posted by darkside31337: View Post
I agree the Hornets are going to be vastly improved this year assuming Gordon can stay healthy.
lol

lol i say
Raging Spaniard
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(08-21-2012, 03:46 PM)

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Originally Posted by KingGondo: View Post
Congrats man.

And OKC Barons had better be the default team.
Thanks!

There WILL be a team named the Barons, that I can basically guarantee. Probably some other NBA GAF refs in there somewhere ;)

Since its such a small team, Ill be doing the art direction and another dude will be animating, were doing 2d sprites, so we gotta find a style we think will be dope. The prototype they have is full of old art that needs to be redone (it was going too much for the thug aesthetic, I think its safe to say that shit is done and over with now)
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(08-21-2012, 03:48 PM)

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Originally Posted by Raging Spaniard: View Post
Thanks!

There WILL be a team named the Barons, that I can basically guarantee. Probably some other NBA GAF refs in there somewhere ;)

Since its such a small team, Ill be doing the art direction and another dude will be animating, were doing 2d sprites, so we gotta find a style we think will be dope. The prototype they have is full of old art that needs to be redone (it was going too much for the thug aesthetic, I think its safe to say that shit is done and over with now)
lensless glasses for everyone.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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(08-21-2012, 03:51 PM)

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Originally Posted by DY_nasty: View Post
lol

lol i say
At some point, he's got to be due.
Outrage247
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(08-21-2012, 03:58 PM)

Originally Posted by Iron E Man: View Post
lensless glasses for everyone.
My vote also.
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Originally Posted by Dominican Power: View Post
It's gonna be funny when both Nash and Dwight throw their backs out.
Bitches about people making fun of Amare's knees

Wishes Nash and Dwight throw their backs out

Knicks Fans everybody
Rodeo Clown
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(08-21-2012, 04:37 PM)

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NBA Live 13 looks terrible.
Herpes Reasons
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(08-21-2012, 04:41 PM)

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Originally Posted by Raging Spaniard: View Post
So seems like I got me a new job. Small startup, iOS, etc. Pretty happy about it :D

Heres the LOL part though, the game were making? A basketball RPG

:D

Lets do dis
make a team called "nicks".

have the starting five of:
thefrankman
h3ro
hunter
masud
syphon filter

make them suck. thanks.
darkside31337
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(08-21-2012, 04:41 PM)

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Originally Posted by Rodeo Clown: View Post
NBA Live 13 looks terrible.
Is there a new preview or something? They've basically hidden the game completely since that awful shit they were showing off at e3.
Rodeo Clown
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(08-21-2012, 04:43 PM)

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Originally Posted by darkside31337: View Post
Is there a new preview or something? They've basically hidden the game completely since that awful shit they were showing off at e3.
This youtube video got posted on gaming side.

I thought they were working on this for like 2 years.
Herpes Reasons
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(08-21-2012, 04:47 PM)

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Originally Posted by Rodeo Clown: View Post
This youtube video got posted on gaming side.

I thought they were working on this for like 2 years.
they did.
and dumbfucks still can't figure out proper real life running and walking animation.
plant those feet you fucks. they're not walking on ice.

this game looks horrible. like steam jokes horrible at best.
Raging Spaniard
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(08-21-2012, 04:52 PM)

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That looks soooo bad, why start over from scratch if this is all you can do? Still looks like theyre using the same assets as before.

Very, very disappointing. Terrible animations, terrible physics, shits sliding all over the place, ugh.
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(08-21-2012, 04:52 PM)

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Originally Posted by Rodeo Clown: View Post
This youtube video got posted on gaming side.

I thought they were working on this for like 2 years.
Wow this is freaking awful. It looks worse than the Live games earlier this generation, how the hell is that even possible?
reilo
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(08-21-2012, 04:57 PM)

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This is what they've shut the brand down for? lmao
Rodeo Clown
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(08-21-2012, 05:02 PM)

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I think my favorite part is the camera losing track of the ball when it went into the corner, making the guy shoot totally blind a couple times.
LyleLanley
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(08-21-2012, 05:06 PM)

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I refuse to believe that video is real, have the developers ever seen real people walk?
chizmiz
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(08-21-2012, 05:09 PM)

There's more construction of the offense on this NBA Live video than there is in real life Heat ball
Knux-Future
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(08-21-2012, 05:10 PM)

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2k decided to ether EA today too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez-bI...ature=youtu.be

Afroswag has his afro. GOTY.
reilo
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(08-21-2012, 05:12 PM)

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The best part is the animation of all of the players not holding the ball. Watch how the players move when on defense. So bad.
marathonfool
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(08-21-2012, 05:14 PM)

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I think it accurately simulates the OKC offense. I couldn't tell the difference between real-life and the A.I.
giga
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(08-21-2012, 05:20 PM)

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Anyone got a mirror for the live 13 video? Video was taken down.
Red Blaster
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(08-21-2012, 05:24 PM)

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Is Counterstrike Global Offensive any good
MorisUkunRasik
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(08-21-2012, 05:24 PM)

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Originally Posted by giga: View Post
Anyone got a mirror for the live 13 video? Video was taken down.
Have you ever seen those Hockey board games that had handles to control each player? Google hockey board game, Live looks like that.

They nailed Westbrook's AI though, but for some reason they implemented it in every player.
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(08-21-2012, 05:26 PM)

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Originally Posted by MorisUkunRasik: View Post
Have you ever seen those Hockey board games that had handles to control each player? Google hockey board game, Live looks like that.

They nailed Westbrook's AI though, but for some reason they implemented it in every player.
NBA YNOT13?
chizmiz
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Originally Posted by Red Blaster: View Post
Is Counterstrike Global Offensive any good
I haven't tried it but the way I feel about is that the CS recipe is fundamentally flawed and it shows more now
Herpes Reasons
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(08-21-2012, 05:28 PM)

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Originally Posted by Knux-Future: View Post
2k decided to ether EA today too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez-bI...ature=youtu.be

Afroswag has his afro. GOTY.
that's fucked up, 2k.


Originally Posted by Red Blaster: View Post
Is Counterstrike Global Offensive any good
relative question:
can i snipe all day?
giga
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(08-21-2012, 05:31 PM)

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Found a mirror: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W-Ax3gaY_k

Downloading a copy and will upload to another site once EA takes that one down.
darkside31337
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(08-21-2012, 05:38 PM)

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EA is trying to do everybody a favor by scrubbing that shit off the internet.
Dark FaZe
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(08-21-2012, 05:42 PM)

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Originally Posted by Basketball Reasons: View Post
relative question:
can i snipe all day?
Yes and without lens flare to show your position!