[Tookay]

I feel like the colossi were more aggressive in the HD version. Not... so much in their overall behavior, oddly, but I felt like I had a much harder time climbing on to some of them and was being shaken off far more than on the PS2 version.

HD version screwed up their ability to shake you off. It's obnoxious. You'll sometimes use up your entire grip meter just going through back-to-back jostle cycles.

[ASIS]

Ico and SotC couldn't be a better example of companion pieces, aside from any canonical connections, the two games are two halves of a Zelda game, just the dungeon puzzles, and just the overworld and bosses. Regardless of which is better, to play one is to require the other, more or less.

This series is the best Zelda "clone" I've ever seen, people always look at Okami, Darksiders or even dark cloud for a few years. But I think this one easily takes the cake.

The real reason for that is simple, it only took a few elements from the Zelda series while the rest is from their creation. Furthermore, they didn't just copy mechanics, its like they tried to identify why some things worked with people the way it did, and they made that factor their own.


I love both series really, but really they did a fantastic job with SoTC and ICO.

[patsu]

What's wrong with playing as the bad guy ?

Bad guy has mother and father who love him too, once upon a time anyway.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I don't have the HD. Maybe I should buy it, or maybe I should just keep the PS2 games.

[ptolemy]

"Aw, da poor widdle huge monster. So what if it was trying to kill me on sight? Feels bad, man. =(" Sorry, I've just never bought into this. I was born a heartless bastard and I'll die a heartless bastard.

Avatar quote need not apply?

[Muffdraul]

Avatar quote need not apply?

Avatar quote when you don't even have one? That hardly seems fair.

[thehillissilent]

HD version screwed up their ability to shake you off. It's obnoxious. You'll sometimes use up your entire grip meter just going through back-to-back jostle cycles.

I noticed that too. I used to be really good at this game on the PS2, but I was trying to realize why I suck on the HD version.

[btkadams]

yeah, i'm halfway through the game (furthest i've ever been). it's depressing!

[Vinci]

As others have mentioned, feeling guilt after each colossus goes down is part and parcel to the experience of playing this game. Such a strange feeling, but that's what makes it a damn classic.

[mantidor]

I really need to get around to play this game. How expensives are PS3s these days?

I don't know if I have spoiled it too much, I know the colossus are innocent creatures, and that your horse dies, besides that I do not know how it actually ends, but I suspect you don't revive the girl, and that you are pretty much an asshole for killing the poor things that have done nothing.

[CitizenCope]

I've played and finished the game 2 years ago. Can someone remind me in spoiler tags why I wasn't a bad guy slaying these giants.

[SalsaShark]

omg this thread is hilarious

[kuroshiki]

And not the fun borderline anti-heroes like in God of War or Grand Theft Auto. I just killed my second beast, and after two years of owning it and a two month hiatus I think I'm finally feeling what the makers are going for. It's crazy just how big it is, I forgot just how impressive last gen could be. On topic though I though I would be slaying dangerous monsters. But the way these things bleed and cry is just pitiful.

Do you really want to feel like a bad guy? Play nier.

[TimeEffect]

wait until you get to the end

[StuBurns]

Do you really want to feel like a bad guy? Play nier.

Ico does the same thing.

[Monroeski]

Do you mean the 13th colossus, in the desert? Because if so, I agree completely. Edit: Also, just want to add that I absolutely love this game, but I can never play it for more than two colossi at a time because it can get pretty emotionally draining.

That thing doesn't look anything like a bird. He's talking about the 5th colossus, the one that looks like a bird. Google "bird colossus."

[Degen]

The real enemy is riding the horse and trying to do something else at the same time

[Seda]

SotC is one of those games you just have to play to completion.

[TimeEffect]

I really need to get around to play this game. How expensives are PS3s these days? I don't know if I have spoiled it too much, I know the colossus are innocent creatures, and that your horse dies, besides that I do not know how it actually ends, but I suspect you don't revive the girl, and that you are pretty much an asshole for killing the poor things that have done nothing.

You pretty much need to play the game :)

[CorrisD]

HD version screwed up their ability to shake you off. It's obnoxious. You'll sometimes use up your entire grip meter just going through back-to-back jostle cycles.

So annoying, some people can't tell the difference, it wasn't a big deal till the later Colossi and they start constantly shaking.
At one point I got exactly what you did, just constantly being thrown around with no time to stab or regain your meter, very annoying, I was hoping they would fix it with a patch but they have seemingly ignored it.

[mysticwhip]

well whatever, it's a really fun game.

[Carl]

"Aw, da poor widdle huge monster. So what if it was trying to kill me on sight? Feels bad, man. =(" Sorry, I've just never bought into this. I was born a heartless bastard and I'll die a heartless bastard.

Only about two of them actively try to kill you before you hurt them. The rest act only in self defence. One doesn't hurt you even when you hurt it.

[Ichor]

OP, you thought playing as Kratos was borderline? He is a full on villain.

[Eppy Thatcher]

I remember at one point around colossi 9 or 10 I was heading to the area the sword told me they were hiding in ... and i just kind of slowed down to a settled trot. Looking around myself.. taking in the sights kind of admiring the game. No music. No enemies. Just the clip clop of my horse and an occasional neigh of sorts.

The desert i remember especially watching the next foe emerge... and start to circle and I just sat on my horse and watched for a while. I will forever be amazed what they managed to pull out of the PS2. The whole idea that the only enemies in the game were the bosses was something so special to me. I think that fact more than any other (besides possibly the amazing soundtrack and sound presentation) are what made me so sympathetic. No faceless drone #745 here. Real, tangible threats that exist for a reason.

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[Muffdraul]

Only about two of them actively try to kill you before you hurt them. The rest act only in self defence. One doesn't hurt you even when you hurt it.

Opposite is true. Most of them become aggressive the instant they detect your presence. A couple of them mind their own business until you attack, fair enough.

[Barkley's Justice]

you're greedy and selfish. i hope you're happy with yourself.

[LeBrick James]

Loved the game, never got that feeling. You're a small young human being facing walking skyscrapers in an attempt to save a girl's life. I thought the game was absolutely beautiful even without ever giving a damn about the Colossi's feelings.

Then again, Kratos is one of my favorite characters.

[Muffdraul]

Loved the game, never got that feeling. You're a small young human being facing walking skyscrapers in an attempt to save a girl's life. I thought the game was absolutely beautiful even without ever giving a damn about the Colossi's feelings.

Now that's a bingo. *brofist*

golems have feelings lol

[Chuck Norris]

Stop playing.

[Eppy Thatcher]

Opposite is true. Most of them become aggressive the instant they detect your presence. A couple of them mind their own business until you attack, fair enough.

There are like 3 that are truly aggressive. Like angry at you. A lot of them are like puppy curious .. they walk at you and try to get close but their eyes stay blue until you attack/climb them. then like 1 or two are pacifists ... flying colossi are just like hey bro piss off.

Unless i'm remembering it entirely wrong. Just played a few months ago after seeing on the psn and omfgwtf buying it instantly. My original ps2 disk is scratched and won't let me finish the damn epilogue.

[mantidor]

You pretty much need to play the game :)

Damn I know! I should just get a ps2, they are dirt cheap aren't they? I don't like this talk that the HD remaster tamper with some of the gameplay mechanics. The game was beautiful enough on the ps2.

However, okami + SOC in HD makes me reconsider.

[Totobeni]

Well yeah.

not going to say anything spoiler-ish here but Wander is a definition and prime example of a bad horrible guy.

[Man-is-Obsolete]

This thread needs a repurposed thatsthejoke.jpeg

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[To Far Away Times]

That realization that you're playing as the bad guy is part of what makes this game great. You play it and have to do the unethical thing, because that's the only choice you're given.

[Ranger X]

This thread just reminded how incredible that game is.
Such an amazing job at telling a story by gameplay (wich should be what distinguish videogames from other mediums of expression) AND its doing a great job at inducing emotions too. A freaking masterpiece!!

[shagg_187]

"Shadow of the Collossus feels like I'm playing as the bad guy."

Which is precisely what Team ICO wanted you to do: make up your own story. They don't tell you who you are, why you are there, who you are saving, what your relationship is with that person and why you are being pursued.

If you think you are the bad guy then so be it. You make your own adventure.

[Muffdraul]

There are like 3 that are truly aggressive. Like angry at you. A lot of them are like puppy curious .. they walk at you and try to get close but their eyes stay blue until you attack/climb them. then like 1 or two are pacifists ... flying colossi are just like hey bro piss off. Unless i'm remembering it entirely wrong. Just played a few months ago after seeing on the psn and omfgwtf buying it instantly. My original ps2 disk is scratched and won't let me finish the damn epilogue.

The majority of them, as soon as they see you, their eyes go from blue to orange; they come at you, they attack you, and if you don't defend yourself, they kill you.

[ASIS]

"Shadow of the Collossus feels like I'm playing as the bad guy." Which is precisely what Team ICO wanted you to do: make up your own story. They don't tell you who you are, why you are there, who you are saving, what your relationship is with that person and why you are being pursued. If you think you are the bad guy then so be it. You make your own adventure.

Its been quite some time since I played it. But I'm pretty sure the bolded parts are explained. The rest is true though.

[Acquiescence]

"Aw, da poor widdle huge monster. So what if it was trying to kill me on sight? Feels bad, man. =(" Sorry, I've just never bought into this. I was born a heartless bastard and I'll die a heartless bastard.

Remember, some of them aren't even aggressive. The two airbourne ones for instance - they've no means of attacking. That's when shit feels really bad.

[Muffdraul]

Remember, some of them aren't even aggressive. The two airbourne ones for instance - they've no means of attacking. That's when shit feels really bad.

Those are the only examples that aren't aggressive that I can remember. I can't think of any others that don't go into attack mode the instant they see you.

[Ridley327]

Those are the only examples that aren't aggressive that I can remember. I can't think of any others that don't go into attack mode the instant they see you.

The lake serpent really doesn't go out of its way to attack you, really; he doesn't do anything besides swim.

Also, and I could be remembering this incorrectly, but I do believe that a good chunk of the colossi won't bother to attack you unless you attack first. I know that's the case for the first one and the salamander.

[Muffdraul]

The lake serpent really doesn't go out of its way to attack you, really; he doesn't do anything besides swim. Also, and I could be remembering this incorrectly, but I do believe that a good chunk of the colossi won't bother to attack you unless you attack first. I know that's the case for the first one and the salamander.

Fine. I said "the majority" attack you on sight, and that's true.

EDIT: The first one attacks on sight.

[Acquiescence]

The lake serpent really doesn't go out of its way to attack you, really; he doesn't do anything besides swim. Also, and I could be remembering this incorrectly, but I do believe that a good chunk of the colossi won't bother to attack you unless you attack first. I know that's the case for the first one and the salamander.

That's a legit one I think. He has those electrical charges on his back, but he can't help that.

I don't recall the horse being particularly aggressive either. Wasn't he just more curious than anything?

[Muffdraul]

I don't recall the horse being particularly aggressive either. Wasn't he just more curious than anything?

The 4th one? He attacks on sight.

[Gen X]

I just killed my second beast, and after two years of owning it and a two month hiatus I think I'm finally feeling what the makers are going for. It's crazy just how big it is, I forgot just how impressive last gen could be. On topic though I though I would be slaying dangerous monsters. But the way these things bleed and cry is just pitiful.

I thought I was the only one. I've never seen that mentioned before and some of the Colossusesess(!) seem like they wouldn't necessarily hurt you. I'm only up to about the 4th or 5th one, like you, I keep taking a haiatus. My backlog. It is huge.

I purposely didn't read too many posts after the OP. It felt like a game of Russian Roulette. Read one more, not a spoiler, just one more, not a spoiler read one more, it warns "Watch out for possible spoilers" :lol

[Odoul]

OP, you thought playing as Kratos was borderline? He is a full on villain.

Nah.

Ares and Zeus were too big o' dickheads for him to be completely the bad guy.

The closest he got was the beginning of GOW 2 where he was warmongering worse than Ares ever was.

I would have been interesting if they'd continued on from that little bit and made Kratos the big bad of another hero's journey.

[Razek]

I must be heartless. I never felt anything slaying them. Just did what I was told and they looked big and evil to me.

[AndrewDean84xX]

I don't rmember feeling a thing from this game. I have played and beat it twice. It felt like all I did was kill big dudes, then a big tower thing and the game ended with a baby.

I'll never undersatnd the love this game received from the niche crowd.

[segarr]

You are a big guy. Killing such majestic creatures to save one girl is pretty selfish.

[Jader7777]

No it's cool. Those big monsters are big and stuff. Big stuff is bad. You should kill the bad stuff. Don't worry about all that dark penetrating tendrils that fly into your chest when it's all over that's just the magic of saving your girl.

Don't worry too much about how your character looks either later in the game. He doesn't shower and stuff.