[TheOGB]

Yeah, they should really start getting into these co-op games more. Goof Troop, you shall be missed :(

I mean, I actually don't care much for NSMBWii, but they could make it a lot more entertaining than it is so far.


As for Pokemon: "Do you remember the episode where Ash caught a Pumbloom? NNNOOOOOOOOOO!!" :lol good shit

[RealDeadOne]

I think Ego hates on OoT far more than he normally would just as backlash against the popularity of the game. A lot of the things he complains about in the game are either incredibly minor issues, things present in LttP in some form or just part of the game's design to have/not have as opposed to oversights.

And then in return Jon has to defend it by shitting on LttP in the exact same nitpicky way. He even brings it up in a few videos, that he's not trying to say LttP is bad and that he loves it, he just prefers Ocarina and doesn't see anything in OoT that makes it significantly worse than LttP in any way other than personal preference.

I've done the same thing before, where I hate a game (Bayonetta, F-Zero GX, STALKER) because I decided to hate it beforehand and nitpick on things to validate this opinion. But then usually at some point I just embrace the fun of the game and it becomes a favorite. I think if Ego played OoT3D without the mindset that he's playing "one of the best games of all time" or "the amazing sequel to Link to the Past" he would enjoy it a lot more.

[-Cade]

I love Game Grumps and usually can find some merit in both Jon's and Ego's arguments, but Jon is so wrong about NSMB Wii.


During the discussion, he's saying "But that's it! There's nothing new" right over gameplay where they're doing the tilting-colored-objects while both of them sport power-ups that have never been seen before in a Mario game in a level that's not similar to any of the other underground levels and is much icier than the others.

I like NSMB Wii quite a bit, despite the fact that it is indeed SIMILAR to NSMBDS, but to say it does NOTHING new is just flat-out wrong.

[N4Us]

As for Pokemon: "Do you remember the episode where Ash caught a Pumbloom? NNNOOOOOOOOOO!!" :lol good shit

I thought Pokemon was a bad idea but it's growing on me a lot. It was hilarious when they freaked out over Lotad evolving. Although I still think Ego should grind a bit off-camera or something.

[The Broken Ska Record]

The Banjo playthroughs are basically Jon going apeshit over the game and it's nostalgia. At least, that's what I think. This last Pokémon vid was actually pretty good. I guess it's a grower.

The NSMBWii was okay.

[JoeInky]

I love Game Grumps and usually can find some merit in both Jon's and Ego's arguments, but Jon is so wrong about NSMB Wii. During the discussion, he's saying "But that's it! There's nothing new" right over gameplay where they're doing the tilting-colored-objects while both of them sport power-ups that have never been seen before in a Mario game in a level that's not similar to any of the other underground levels and is much icier than the others. I like NSMB Wii quite a bit, despite the fact that it is indeed SIMILAR to NSMBDS, but to say it does NOTHING new is just flat-out wrong.

I lost a lot of respect for jon when he said that NSMB DS was great but the rest aren't because they're the same game.

DS was horrible, Wii was great.

[AlucardGV]

Meh. i don't really like those 2.5d floaty mario, i'm not sure if i'll follow this "let's play"

[Pie and Beans]

I prescribe a Nintendo detox for these duders. Like good lord. I wonder if Game Grumps will ever do a non-Nintendo system game. NSMBWii is already fucking boring to watch.

[SirIgbyCeaser]

I only care about the benjo play-through because Egorapture has never played it before and the game on its own can be pretty funny.

So him going through it is actually interesting. And lets me experience the game again.

I agree with the need for a non nintendo game, they should play GTA III or Vice City.

[Desmond]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCVlwdz37nc

If you have a DS, just get Ultra... or if you have a Wii, snag it on VC or something. Also went through JonTron's list of things he commented and favorited and found this gem Magic Man Dad and his Seven Asses Technique

Holy Shit, that's fantastic.

[Noi]

Game Grumps Animated - I Want Wingull! - by Egoraptor

Twitchy ass Taillow

[Lionel Mandrake]

Game Grumps Animated - I Want Wingull! - by Egoraptor Twitchy ass Taillow

Oh shit. We're getting new Egoraptor animations out of this too? Awesome.

[Poyunch]

Been busy since Friday so I have a lot to catch up on.

Part 3 of Banjo is up!

[SirIgbyCeaser]

Been busy since Friday so I have a lot to catch up on. Part 3 of Banjo is up!

I wish these would roll out daily.

[ZeroGravity]

Egoraptor likes the game. JonTron mental breakdown averted.

[Dragonzord]

Someone tell them to do Chip And Dale Rescue Rangers for the NES as the followup to Goof Troop.

[Astrosanity]

If Ego likes BK quite a bit already then he'll probably like the rest of the game (MM is the most basic world in the game), but not sure how a playthrough Banjo-Tooie would go. It's far easier to get lost in, more stuff to collect (though I think it saves your note progress whereas BK didn't outside of getting 100%) and I could see Ego getting frustrated with it. Love the BK games but Jon Tron definitely gets blinded by nostalgia sometimes (N&B is fantastic for instance, despite not being a 'true' BK game).

Also they should work through all of Capcom's old Disney games. Aladdin for the SNES was godly.

[Chinpoko_Master]

I can kinda identify with JonTron's love of Banjo Kazooie, but a lot of his opinion seems tainted by nostalgia. When I was a kid, I preferred it to Super Mario 64. I still might in fact, but I'd have to play them again and I'm not so sure they would hold up. The playthrough so far is making me skeptical.

My own nostalgia is kicking in though. I'm actually considering buying a 360 now and downloading Kazooie and Tooie from the store. I can't believe I forgot about these games.

[Ichor]

I can kinda identify with JonTron's love of Banjo Kazooie, but a lot of his opinion seems tainted by nostalgia. When I was a kid, I preferred it to Super Mario 64. I still might in fact, but I'd have to play them again and I'm not so sure they would hold up. The playthrough so far is making me skeptical. My own nostalgia is kicking in though. I'm actually considering buying a 360 now and downloading Kazooie and Tooie from the store. I can't believe I forgot about these games.

Having just played Banjo Kazooie after having not played it when I was younger I can say I GREATLY prefer it to Mario 64, and honestly think it's an amazing game.

[Riposte]

God, how many times is JonTron going to say "innovation" lol.

[ScraftyDevil]

Love the BK games but Jon Tron definitely gets blinded by nostalgia sometimes (N&B is fantastic for instance, despite not being a 'true' BK game). Also they should work through all of Capcom's old Disney games. Aladdin for the SNES was godly.

Eh, I wouldn't say fantastic, but it was better than he made it out to be. I can see how a longtime fan of the series could be very disappointed by it, though.

And yes to the Disney games. I think that they'd quite enjoy Magical Quest.

[Pie and Beans]

Hoping they get round to:

Mega Drive
Gunstar Heroes
World of Illusion
Bonanza Bros
32x
Chaotix
Saturn
Die Hard Arcade
Guardian Heroes
Dreamcast
Zombie Revenge

but I'm guessing probably not.

[Kirbyguy]

I guess I could be annoyed by this since I can't really stand nearly any platformer from the era. At the same time, they're grumpy about things. Jon isn't as grumpy (he's still young), whereas Ego is. I guess they're finally living up to the name.

I lost a lot of respect for jon when he said that NSMB DS was great but the rest aren't because they're the same game. DS was horrible, Wii was great.

They're still nothing special overall, though NSMBW had its co-op going for it.

[ZeroGravity]

Kirby Super Star - Part 7

[Spiffy_1st]

Of course. I didn't mean to imply that Egoraptor was "all in the right". Jon's comments simply came to mind first. Their comparison debates overall are cringe-worthy. Nonsensical comical exchanges from them, on the other hand, is what keeps me coming back.

I thought both of their arguments were logical.

Ego likesLink to the Past due to the dungeon design being focused on the gameplay and puzzles, while JonTron likes OoT because the dungeons are more focused on theming and creating an atmosphere. I think at one point they sort of agreed that it was just preference.

[Astrosanity]

God, how many times is JonTron going to say "innovation" lol.

To be honest I honestly don't genuinely know.

[Frost_Ace]

Loving the BK run, hoping they get around tooie too.

[I should be doing hw]

To be honest I honestly don't genuinely know.

Did you literally just say that.

JonTron just seems unable to argue anything, even if it's the easiest possible point to make.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure his argument boiled down to "...but it's a classic".

[EmCeeGramr]

I thought both of their arguments were logical. Ego likesLink to the Past due to the dungeon design being focused on the gameplay and puzzles, while JonTron likes OoT because the dungeons are more focused on theming and creating an atmosphere. I think at one point they sort of agreed that it was just preference.

I would definitely argue that OoT is far more focused on puzzles than LttP. JonTron just seems unable to argue anything, even if it's the easiest possible point to make.

[LuFel]

Game Grumps Animated - I Want Wingull! - by Egoraptor Twitchy ass Taillow

Gullgull Lv lol
Grumps Lv 7asses

this made my day...xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD...

[Astrosanity]

I can kinda identify with JonTron's love of Banjo Kazooie, but a lot of his opinion seems tainted by nostalgia. When I was a kid, I preferred it to Super Mario 64. I still might in fact, but I'd have to play them again and I'm not so sure they would hold up. The playthrough so far is making me skeptical. My own nostalgia is kicking in though. I'm actually considering buying a 360 now and downloading Kazooie and Tooie from the store. I can't believe I forgot about these games.

I'm playing through them due to GG and besides Mumbo's Mountain being really barebones the worlds onwards have been a lot of fun. I mean I guess there's a few things like collecting tons of stuff and sometimes getting dialog heavy, but it seems better laid out here while in DK64 and to a lesser extent BT it was an enormous hassle.

SM64's obviously the better game and BK owes it existence to it, but I still usually have more fun with the latter. Or more so Conker owe's its existence to SM64, while BK owes its existence to the BK team getting jealous of Conker when it was still an RPG and redoing it as a 3D platformer.

[cosmicblizzard]

I would definitely argue that OoT is far more focused on puzzles than LttP. JonTron just seems unable to argue anything, even if it's the easiest possible point to make.

He's just not good at making arguments on the spot it seems. A lot of his reviews are well thought out, so I imagine he's just one of those kinds of guys that needs to think about it.

Or he's just bad at contesting someone else's points maybe.

[Dragonzord]

I just... I just watch these to laugh.

[Astral]

Oh man I'd love to see the Disney games. Aladdin and The Lion King were hard as FUCK.

[VandalD]

Oh man I'd love to see the Disney games. Aladdin and The Lion King were hard as FUCK.

Yeah, but I'm thinking the show wouldn't be as good if the games were hard as fuck. They could do something like Gunstar Heroes, but I wouldn't expect them to play on hard or expert. They'd have to stop talking and concentrate.

[N4Us]

I'd like to see them try Great Circus Mystery on SNES, co-op platforming and I don't know if any of them played it before.

[Professor Beef]

Kirby Super Star - Part 7

I'm so used to going through the hidden pathways in the Metaknight game that it's like watching a brand-new game seeing them go the "normal" route.

[NTom64]

World of Illusion would be a perfect game for them to play. Such a fun game to do co-op style.

[How About No]

Game Grumps Animated - I Want Wingull! - by Egoraptor Twitchy ass Taillow

John's face when he says "Oh I like Wingull! It's a waterbird" is adorable

[Frost_Ace]

He is always adorable <3

[Poyunch]

New Super Mario Bros. Wii Part 2 - The Old Mario Had...

[ZeroGravity]

They kind of miss the point of the New Super Mario Bros games.

[Reknoc]

New Super Mario Bros. Wii Part 2 - The Old Mario Had...

aaaaaaa

This may end up being the first game I drop.

[Raide]

They kind of miss the point of the New Super Mario Bros games.

Exactly. Its all about dicking over your friends for power-ups and never playing the game again due to how annoying it is.

[KeeSomething]

They kind of miss the point of the New Super Mario Bros games.

They already covered how soulless, forgiving, and unoriginal they are... what else do they need to point out?

[Kirbyguy]

They kind of miss the point of the New Super Mario Bros games.

Going hay guys nostalgia and then selling on name only?

[Bufbaf]

I'm sorry, but the reasons both Ego and Jontron have are the same reasons I really dislike the NSMB games. I'm okay with almost everything they say about those games :(


The OOT parts are just stupid though.

[Lionel Mandrake]

I always took NSMB to be made for families. Like, your little kid could keep dying, and you could just say, "That's okay, just shake the controller and I'll get past this part." It's not necessarily a bad design, but it is kind of frustrating for someone who wants an original, 2D Mario game.

I remember when I got the DS game, and I got to the first Bowser fight. I was geared up. "Oh yeah! Let's do this--... Oh... Wait. Fireflower hurts him? That's... insanely easy." I purposefully lost the flower to fight him the way he should be fought, but by then it's in the back of your mind. "This isn't how Bowser is supposed to be."

They aren't bad games, but they're clearly not intended for your old school Mario player.

[Kirbyguy]

I always took NSMB to be made for families. Like, your little kid could keep dying, and you could just say, "That's okay, just shake the controller and I'll get past this part." It's not necessarily a bad design, but it is kind of frustrating for someone who wants an original, 2D Mario game. I remember when I got the DS game, and I got to the first Bowser fight. I was geared up. "Oh yeah! Let's do this--... Oh... Wait. Fireflower hurts him? That's... insanely easy." I purposefully lost the flower to fight him the way he should be fought, but by then it's in the back of your mind. "This isn't how Bowser is supposed to be." They aren't bad games, but they're clearly not intended for your old school Mario player.

That... makes no sense whatsoever.

[EmCeeGramr]

NSMB Wii is SMB3/SMW tier.

Real talk.

I always took NSMB to be made for families. Like, your little kid could keep dying, and you could just say, "That's okay, just shake the controller and I'll get past this part." It's not necessarily a bad design, but it is kind of frustrating for someone who wants an original, 2D Mario game. I remember when I got the DS game, and I got to the first Bowser fight. I was geared up. "Oh yeah! Let's do this--... Oh... Wait. Fireflower hurts him? That's... insanely easy." I purposefully lost the flower to fight him the way he should be fought, but by then it's in the back of your mind. "This isn't how Bowser is supposed to be." They aren't bad games, but they're clearly not intended for your old school Mario player.

You can kill Bowser with a Fire Flower in SMB1.