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Salvadora
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(07-20-2012, 08:23 AM)
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The novel Fifty Shades of Grey may have Britain’s housewives experiencing something of a sexual renaissance, but women’s steamiest thoughts are still tame compared with the male imagination, scientists claim.

While men spend more time thinking about sex than their partners overall, a survey found that women have more fantasies which could be described as “pleasant”.
Men, on the other hand, are more likely to occupy their minds with wilder and more exploratory ideas such as “swinging” with other couples or taking part in an orgy, researchers found.

Women more frequently imagined being forced into submission in a sexual scenario — but they also took less enjoyment from the idea than men.
Nieves Moyano Muñoz, who led the study, said: “These fantasies are not very frequent but compared with men, women have more. But they experience it in a more negative way.”
The researchers, from the University of Granada, questioned 2,250 Spanish people who had been in a heterosexual relationship for at least six months about the frequency and nature of their sexual thoughts.
Their results, published in the Anales de Psicología journal, showed that almost all participants had experienced a pleasant sexual fantasy at some point in their life, and 80 per cent had also had a negative one.
The team said there were not “significant” differences between men’s and women’s racy thoughts, but that there were subtle differences between the sexes in the scenarios that they imagined.
Although men had more sexual fantasies in total, women reported having “pleasant” fantasies “a few” times a month — a greater frequency than men.
Men were more likely to admit having either positive or negative thoughts about experimental activities, such as “being promiscuous”, “being a swinger” or “participating in an orgy”, although most said that they only had such fantasies once a year or at some point in their life.
Ms Muñoz added: “These are not very frequently experienced — in normal life men and women have very similar fantasies. They have this type of fantasy about one or two times in their whole life.”
Sexual submission was the least enjoyable fantasy among women, with most imagining it at least once in their life, while for men the most negative thoughts involved homosexual activities.

The survey was aimed at helping determine whether unpleasant fantasies harm the development of healthy sexual behaviour.
Researchers pointed out that imagining sex could be helpful in some ways, for example by encouraging sexual desire or arousal.
They suggested that therapists should not only ask whether or not people have fantasies about sex, but also consider their attitude towards them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/s...than-mens.html
Anyone surprised?
Dennis
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(07-20-2012, 08:24 AM)
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I refuse to believe this.

Scientist, what do they know?
DirkDiggler
(07-20-2012, 08:24 AM)
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Not me .I like "pleasant fantasies".
Gustav
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(07-20-2012, 08:25 AM)
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Yeah, don't be judgmental. What's depraved in your mind is awesome in mine.
Zekes!
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(07-20-2012, 08:26 AM)
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the more depraved the better
Fiction
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(07-20-2012, 08:26 AM)
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I find this hard to believe. I cite any fandoms anon kink meme fan fiction threads as proof.
ivysaur12
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(07-20-2012, 08:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zekes!

the more depraved the better

But really. It's too bad that we can't talk honestly about the things that are taboo that turn us on. We barely can deal with two people of the same sex holding hands in public.

Originally Posted by Fiction

I find this hard to believe. I cite any fandoms anon kink meme fan fiction threads as proof.

This too.
BlueTsunami
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(07-20-2012, 08:28 AM)
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Its not like dudes think about shitting on their significant others chest or DP. What's pleasent? A tickle session before pulling your dick out from your underwears front port?
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Verelios
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(07-20-2012, 08:28 AM)
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I like variety. Sue me. At least it keeps me mentally, and (most likely) socially healthy; what the hell do the delusions of women give them?

Delusions, that's what. Pleasant is another term for 'possibility'. I'm sorry, but please stop expounding on your 'possibility'. It will probably not become reality. And that's unhealthy. Although...a lot of men have this problem too...where was I going with this? We're all fucked up. Done.
Imbarkus
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(07-20-2012, 08:30 AM)
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I have to agree with this, guys. We are the driving force behind porn, and I'm trying to imagine a woman fantasizing about puking in a bucket when her gag reflex is violated by one man while two more DP her corn-hole.

Generalizations always turn out to be untrue in specific cases, but I bet you could make this blanket assumption in everyday life and be right 85% of the time.
Trick_GSF
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(07-20-2012, 08:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zekes!

the more depraved the better

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ivysaur12
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(07-20-2012, 08:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by Imbarkus

I have to agree with this, guys. We are the driving force behind porn, and I'm trying to imagine a woman fantasizing about puking in a bucket when her gag reflex is violated by one man while two more DP her corn-hole.

Generalizations always turn out to be untrue in specific cases, but I bet you could make this blanket assumption in everyday life and be right 85% of the time.

You're generalizing.
Kitsunebaby
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(07-20-2012, 08:32 AM)
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If only they could see inside my head, they would know how wrong they are.
DanteFox
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(07-20-2012, 08:32 AM)
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not surprising in the least.
Imbarkus
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(07-20-2012, 08:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by ivysaur12

You're generalizing.

You're right. Generalizations generally turn out to be generally proven untrue in specific, non-general situations, general general general word has no meaning now
Femmeworth
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(07-20-2012, 08:33 AM)
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"Depraved" is such a loaded term.
Emitan
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(07-20-2012, 08:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kitsunebaby

If only they could see inside my head, they would know how wrong they are.

It's all that hentai corrupting the youth!
Monocle
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(07-20-2012, 08:34 AM)
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"Depraved"? Sounds a bit sensationalistic. Why not "extreme" or "unconventional"?

Originally Posted by Zekes!

the more depraved the better

Also this.
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ivysaur12
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(07-20-2012, 08:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kitsunebaby

If only they could see inside my head, they would know how wrong they are.

Fiction
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(07-20-2012, 08:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kitsunebaby

If only they could see inside my head, they would know how wrong they are.

This. Again, guys, google any popular fandom name plus kink meme and get schooled. I suggest Supernatural for maximum effect.
Femmeworth
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(07-20-2012, 08:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by Billiechu

It's all that hentai corrupting the youth!

Hentai does have a lot of fucked up shit. :\
BlueTsunami
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(07-20-2012, 08:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by Fiction

This. Again, guys, google any popular fandom name plus kink meme and get school. I suggest Supernatural for maximum effect.

I've watched through enough episodes to know that wincest is the best cest. Talk about depraved.
Cipherr
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(07-20-2012, 08:37 AM)
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while for men the most negative thoughts involved homosexual activities.

What the hell IS it with men and homosexuality thats so damn scary. I suppose thats a question with a pretty complex answer though, so why bother asking.
Emitan
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(07-20-2012, 08:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by Femmeworth

Hentai does have a lot of fucked up shit. :

It changed me ._.
Kitsunebaby
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(07-20-2012, 08:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Femmeworth

Hentai does have a lot of fucked up shit. :\

That's the point! You can make cartoon characters do the sickest shit possible and nobody is actually being hurt/mistreated.
Gustav
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(07-20-2012, 08:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cipherr

What the hell IS it with men and homosexuality thats so damn scary. I suppose thats a question with a pretty complex answer though, so why bother asking.

I don't know. If I think about sucking a dick or getting pounded in the ass, it's a rather unpleasant thought.
ivysaur12
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(07-20-2012, 08:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by BlueTsunami

I've watched through enough episodes to know that wincest is the best cest. Talk about depraved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1aoWcgbNE

Supernatural used to be SO GOOD.
Fiction
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(07-20-2012, 08:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by BlueTsunami

I've watched through enough episodes to know that wincest is the best cest. Talk about depraved.


I've recently learned about omegaverse Wincest via the kink migrating to BBC Sherlock fandom. I am....I'll just say that is not my kink, yo.

Edited to add: my iPad tried to autocorrect Wincest to Winchester. Much lulz were had.
Emitan
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(07-20-2012, 08:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kitsunebaby

That's the point! You can make cartoon characters do the sickest shit possible and nobody is actually being hurt/mistreated.

Don't mistreat my waifus
Vermillion
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(07-20-2012, 08:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gustav

Yeah, don't be judgmental. What's depraved in your mind is awesome in mine.

Originally Posted by Zekes!

the more depraved the better

Damn straight
Replicant
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(07-20-2012, 08:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cipherr

What the hell IS it with men and homosexuality thats so damn scary. I suppose thats a question with a pretty complex answer though, so why bother asking.

Societal expectation and restrictive upbringing, etc etc. I do hope that the younger generations are less afraid/caring of gender roles and just like whoever they like be it men or women.
Femmeworth
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(07-20-2012, 08:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kitsunebaby

That's the point! You can make cartoon characters do the sickest shit possible and nobody is actually being hurt/mistreated.

Yeah, but it certainly reflects poorly on us.
BocoDragon
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(07-20-2012, 08:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by Replicant

Societal expectation and restrictive upbringing, etc etc. I do hope that the younger generations are less afraid/caring of gender roles and just like whoever they like be it men or women.

Yeah.. there are a lot of things I think are real biology.... But homophobia isn't one of them. That's gotta be a societal thing. Something about, quote-unquote: "being a man"... You "do" others.. you can't get "done to". :P
ivysaur12
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(07-20-2012, 08:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by BocoDragon

Yeah.. there are a lot of things I think are real biology.... But homophobia isn't one of them. That's gotta be a societal thing. Something "being a man"... You "do" others.. you can't get "done to". :P

Unless it feels good.
shanshan310
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(07-20-2012, 08:44 AM)
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“being promiscuous”, “being a swinger” or “participating in an orgy”

This is considered 'unpleasant'? I don't understand... So then what's 'pleasant'?

Originally Posted by Kitsunebaby

If only they could see inside my head, they would know how wrong they are.

I know right :p
Fiction
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(07-20-2012, 08:45 AM)
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I actually think it would be fascinating if the different kinks in fan fiction were studied, though I am sure it would turn into more of a 'fic is gross and disturbing!' rather than a "women have varied and darker fantasies too" thing.
Emitan
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(07-20-2012, 08:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by shanshan310

This is considered 'unpleasant'? I don't understand... So then what's 'pleasant'?

Missionary position in the dark with most of your clothes on.
Vermillion
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(07-20-2012, 08:47 AM)
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Oh, yeah? What are your fantasies, then?
BlueTsunami
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(07-20-2012, 08:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by JokerOfSpades

Oh, yeah? What are your fantasies, then?

Slappin' ma dick on two fat titties to the drum sequences in Lateralus
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Fiction
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(07-20-2012, 08:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by JokerOfSpades

Oh, yeah? What are your fantasies, then?

I believe most of mine would violate the TOS if I were to post them.
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(07-20-2012, 08:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Billiechu

Missionary position in the dark with most of your clothes on.

I can't fap to this. No, seriously. Every time I see porn with clothes on, I'll go, "Oh, COME ON!". At the very least there should be some unbuttoning action about a minute or two after I see them clothed. But porn where the actors are fucking with most of their clothes intact is a complete boner killer.
Gustav
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(07-20-2012, 08:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Replicant

Societal expectation and restrictive upbringing, etc etc. I do hope that the younger generations are less afraid/caring of gender roles and just like whoever they like be it men or women.


I had the most liberal and laissez faire upbringing you can imagine. I still find the thought of taking a dick to the mouth a little ewww.
Loofy
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(07-20-2012, 08:50 AM)
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Im pretty sure I read an article awhile ago that said 'rape fantasy' was number 1 or 2 in womens sexual fantasies.
ReiGun
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(07-20-2012, 08:51 AM)
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Found this in the related articles. Found it more surprising.

Men want cuddles but women prefer sex, survey finds

I've always been told the opposite is true. Never been in a relationship to find out myself.
shanshan310
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(07-20-2012, 08:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by JokerOfSpades

Oh, yeah? What are your fantasies, then?

erm... you first guys.
akira28
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(07-20-2012, 08:52 AM)
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Bullshit. Some women have some... sometimes scary and troubling fantasies. I want to know who these scientists talked to, and did they adjust their poll sampling for plain-faced bullcrap? The small possibility that people wouldn't divulge their more extreme fantasies, and some others (guys) might be more willing to publicly own up to more of what they fantasize about. Too simple to just say men are freakier because blah blah our surveys plus this new bestseller, something something "pleasant" bullshit, "I f-bang to fluttering butterflies and sunsets" and shit. Women can come up with some pretty out there shit. I'd start with Anais Nin or something earlier before I'd stick to 50 Shades as the prime example of female fantasy.

And as many women as there are that participate in BDSM, I'd say a lot more women are thinking about that more than once in their lives. I'd say this cultural differences thing is playing a key part in the findings seeming skewed.
Fiction
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(07-20-2012, 08:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Loofy

Im pretty sure I read an article awhile ago that said 'rape fantasy' was number 1 or 2 in womens sexual fantasies.

Non-con is a pretty popular kink in fandom. But it's usually guy on guy or the guy as the victim. Keep in mind a majority of fanfic writers/readers are middle aged straight women.
Timedog
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(07-20-2012, 08:53 AM)
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I like to fantasize about my woman just on the verge of cumming, and then the phone rings, and she answers it and tries to hold on a conversation while I'm pleasuring her down below.
BocoDragon
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(07-20-2012, 08:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Timedog

I like to fantasize about my woman just on the verge of cumming, and then the phone rings, and she answers it and tries to hold on a conversation while I'm pleasuring her greatly.

you sick fuck.
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(07-20-2012, 08:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gustav

I had the most liberal and laissez faire upbringing you can imagine. I still find the thought of taking a dick to the mouth a little ewww.

Then you are not as liberal as you think you are. Alternatively, your upbringing could be liberal but you yourself ended up not being one. Upbringing is only part of your sexual development. The people you surround yourself with aka your friends, also affects this. Also, I did also mention societal expectation, which you probably adhered a lot to. The fact that our societies still condemn people who are attracted to their own sex speaks itself.

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